According to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy adviser, she would order a “full reeview” of the Syrian war as her first task upon taking office, with an eye toward a “reset” of the conflict to shift focus toward attacking the Assad government and imposing regime change.
Clinton’s aide, former Pentagon chief of staff Jeremy Bash, insisted that Assad’s was a “murderous regime” and that US foreign policy would be to escalate both the war against ISIS and this new war against Assad to get both “out of there” at the same time.
Syria has been the subject of a lot of debate in the Obama Administration, with the Pentagon seeking a focus on ISIS, the CIA wanting to shift entirely to fighting Assad, and Secretary of State John Kerry negotiating a deal with Russia to expand the war to include al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front.
Though Bash didn’t cover where the Nusra Front would fit into this, the suggestion that Clinton’s administration would escalate attacks on both seems designed to split the difference and placate hawks on both sides of the issue. The Obama Administration has already been steadily escalating the war since it began, to little effect, and Clinton’s policy would be that, just moreso.
Shrillary is an evil psychopath. May doG strike her down…
If Hillary decides to bomb both Assad and ISIS you can expect a truce and Russia will target anyone that threatens their interests in Syria i say let Hillary try.
I would say you have it about right. What you probably don’t want to admit is that Obama created the situation in Syria.
luv from Canada.
Obama, Turkey, Israel, and Saudi Arabia. Why wouldn’t we want to admit that? Antiwar.com readers aren’t Obama supporters. Learn your audience before posting nonsense.
And Iran. Let’s discuss all of them individuallly if you like.
I know you all hate Obama because you can’t cotton to black people who are so uppity he presumed he could be your president.
My point is, Syria and Iran are now safe because of Obama. You can make your point on the others now too.
luv from Canada.
I don’t think anyone here hates Obama because he’s black. He’s a lousy president. And don’t make me laugh about Iran and Syria being “safe”.
Iran and Syria are safe because of the Russian presense in Syria and the nuclear deal struck with Iran which was largely due to Obama allowing it to happen. On Iran there is little doubt as there is an abundance of references to the fact that both presidential hopefuls will interfere with the deal in some way. Clinton the least because she says she will ‘police’ it. Trump claims he will destroy it.
Syria gleefully met Obama’s redline demands which put Russia in the catseat of legitimacy. Obama, in doing that, cut the legs out from under his country by foreseeing that the same mechanism as was used in Iraq was going to be attempted on Syria. The difference was only that Russia quickly made it’s presense known and was present to ascertain that Syria did indeed comply. The US was immediately defanged. Or at least, the US lost the legitimacy it needed to go to war with Syria.
Russia and Syria, Putin and Assad, now sit on the side of right. That almost certainly means that Putin is not going to allow the US to reneg on the deal that prevented allout US led war. And he has the nuclear capability to back him up. You Americans may not like the truth but you’re going to have to accept it. Clinton will is my bet because she will know the fear of MAD. The psychopathic Trump will not. And so the choice will be yours in November.
Neither are “safe”. Regime change is discussed openly for both countries.
Talked about yes, but when it comes to acting on regime change in either Iran or Syria, it becomes a different question. I’m betting that it will need the ignoring of the MAD threat because there is every indication that Putin has been pushed about as far as he will allow himself to be pushed. I know of no reason why Clinton would be capable of ignoring it but I know of a very good reason why Trump might.
Now that we’ve opened a dialogue on the issue, are you prepared to argue it with me or do you essentially agree with my analysis?
Don’t fear having to make your point. And especially, don’t fear that you will learn something from a discussion.
The fact regime change is talked about so freely makes the feeling of being safe an impossibility. It’s not like they haven’t seen what has happened in their own neighborhood. And kiss my a** regarding you teaching me anything.
Syria safe? Oh good, no more refuges and we can now return all of them to their wonderful homeland.
I voted for Obama
Gave money to his campaign
Not everything is race and gender
Syria is a war crime
The brutal Obama is at war with Syria. It’s called a War of Aggression.
How hysterical Canadian Liberals would be if Canada was attacked like this.
He knows his audience. He’s a TROLL and he’s trying to derail the conversation. Don’t take the bait.
No ,the Neo-Cons started it. The planning for the attack on Syria goes back to 2001.
Obama did not have to continue the operation, but did so, mainly on the advice and pressure of Hillary.
Obama gave the order in 2011 for first the Color Revolution and then the Covert Operations, signing the “Findings” for them, which he is required to do,
It is clear Hillary will launch an open war against Syria, in view of her heavily involvement in the whole Middle east thingsincce1909.
Which brings us to the crunch question, why has Antiwar.com been so slow to react to this ?
“Which brings us to the reason I am here which is to pretend Antiwar.com been so slow to react to something.”
Fixed, no charge.
In fact, leading psychiatrists and psychologists the world over are saying that Trump is a classic case. Clinton doesn’t fit the mold at all. Not to say that she is a hawk because that’s established. But all US presidents who have been hawks have always been aware of the MAD threat. Clinton likely will too. Sty credible American. Others are watching people like you.
What “leading psychiatrists”? The ones in your head?
A Psychologist Analyzes Donald Trump’s Personality – The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/06/the-mind-of…trump/480771/
“It was Donald Trump playing Donald Trump,” Griffin observed. … Fifty years of empirical research in personality psychology have resulted in a scientific …
A Psychologist Studies “The Mind of Donald Trump” – The Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/press-releases/…a-psychologist-studies…trump/483123/
May 17, 2016 – Washington, D.C. (May 17, 2016)—Who, really, is Donald Trump? What is his psychological makeup, and what kind of president would he be?
The Psychological Quirk That Explains Why You Love Donald Trump …
http://www.politico.com/…/story/…/donald-trump-supporters-dunning-kruger-effect-21390...
May 25, 2016 – Many commentators have argued that Donald Trump’s dominance in the … Psychological research suggests that people, in general, suffer from …
Psychologists Break Professional Silence To Diagnose Trump For …
reverbpress.com/…/psychologists-break-professional-silence-to-diagnose-trump-for-p…
Mar 18, 2016 – Now psychologists decide to diagnose him to warn the public. … feed, his debate performances, his manipulation of the media, are all a study in …
Harvard Psychologist Explains Trump Is ‘Dangerous’ Because He’s …
countercurrentnews.com/…/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psyc…
Feb 27, 2016 – Carol Caldwell notes, in D.J. Trump, Psychopath, that “it’s been attested to by psychologists and neurobiologists who study psycho- and …
Clinical Psychologists Diagnose Donald Trump — And It Isn’t Pretty …
http://www.inquisitr.com/…/clinical-psychologists-diagnose-donald-trump-and-it-isnt-pretty...
Nov 28, 2015 – Vanity Fair asked several psychologists to weigh in on Donald Trump, and their diagnosis of the potential GOP presidential candidate is far …
None of these articles feature a psychiatrist or therapist identifying Trump as a psychopath, as you claimed. You are a liar and a waste of space on this forum.
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
AL Gore is that you!
Trump is a second-rate real estate developer who hasnt had to answer to the public or shareholders. HIllary has to hide her motives and is a phenomenal liar. I have no idea why any American caucasian would continue to support Israel, but that’s the nation we live in, run by zionist interests, with some corporate WASP interests thrown in. Psychology is ultimately irrelevant. Neither one is a good choice ultimately. In some ways, Trump may be better, because his chaos would be more transparent.
If you’re in favor of ISIS and Sham-Qaida, then vote for Hillary.
I was planning on voting for Jill Stein. Now I will do everything
Look up your state party on the web and sign up for the petition drive to get her on the ballot if she’s not on yet. I’ve collected 84 signatures at a table at my county fair.
Hillary will get the US involved on the opposite side from Russia and will have the US and Russia in a full-out war (complete with nukes) by the end of her first year in office. Time to move to the Southern Hemisphere…
I’m sure the Daymockratic Party liberal hypocrites will love this war.
True liberals are anti-war. What passes for a liberal today is nauseating.
And where can one find true liberals today? In what caves have they gone hiding?
That was my point.
The Green Party. jill2016.com
When will the American people finally wake up and take control of their country ?
I thought her first order of business was to call netenyahoo and turn over running the country to him.
I know it’s become natural for US presidential candidates to threaten other nations with war and their leaders with death, but it doesn’t make it any more repulsive and objectionable. If American’s had any sense, this would be reason alone for Hillary to be removed from an election or at least to suffer a massive defeat.
No Hillary, Syria is not your email server. You can’t just reboot it, wipe its history, and install your malware…
Thats the last straw. No more campaigning required. Trump has my vote.
Clinton is ignorant, naive and totally subservient to Israeli lobby headed by her buddy Haim Saban
I think I agree. Trump is a moron, but I’m not voting to put another ziolicker into office. Trump will lick Israel also, but maybe he won’t. If he won’t, he better duck a lot. Trump will still suck up to Israel, but he’ll do such a poor job of being president, that his work for Israel will be exposed to full spotlight
To be fair H.Clinton did preach to AIPAC a few years ago that the Gaza/Palestinian situation was unsustainable. Obviously her advisors got to her and her AIPAC speeches have not strayed in that territory since.
She is insane. No other explanation. The question is, cui bono? She does understand money, however.
Yes, and the MIC, Israel and bankers all pay quite well.
I didn’t get the memo where the UN says that bombing Syria into regime change is internationally supported now? Promising to perform War Crimes in the open (as opposed under cover of no-fly zones) is the new platform?
They hanged Germans and Japanese because they launched a war of aggression.back in the day. I’m sure there must be some precedent there………………
Hitlery will take the world to war. She tries to take out Assad and she will have war with Russia. Smart move!
The MICC believes and have always believed that they can win that war. And like the aftermath planning for the Iraq invasion, they’ve spent zero effort considering what would come after the attempt fails – or succeeds for that matter. After the nukes start flying, which I believe they would, there will be little left to govern. And I would hope that whomever survives such stupidity starts rounding up those responsible and starts removing body parts…slowly. Would I participate in that exercise? Oh, absolutely. But given prevailing wind currents, the radioactive fallout would render this part of the country a barren wasteland almost immediately.
At least you get that the situation that Obama and Putin have created is there to protect Assad and his Syria. MAD is something all American presidents have understood and there’s no indication that Clinton won’t understand it as well.
Trump, being a psychopath, won’t understand fear because that is the nature of the psychopath. Learn something about psychopathy if you care.
How dare you insult a poster with your phony high horse bs.
high horse says it all. I own you now. And don’t try to figure that out. you won’t.
“At ease, son” – relax and take a break. So fun toying with a dunce who thinks he’s smart.
You are an idiot. Trump has never wielded political power in his life and he is 70 years old. He has never been in a position of power to push for a war but all of a sudden at 70 years of age he suddenly loses his mind and wants to push for a world destroying war. OTOH HRC has been involved in the destruction of Iraq, Libya, Honduras, and Syria but she is somehow more sensible than Trump?
Dennis, Trump has acted exactly as a corporate psychopath would act. He knows no fear and that has led to numerous bankruptcies. He has never wielded political power but when he does he will be the same man. Only going bankrupt is not the same result. It’s up to you Dennis to think of just what the result will be when he fails to convince either Russia or China or both to bend to his wishes of them sacrificing their economic wellbeing to sult America’s economic agenda.
Nothing is going to change in the world as far as economic manipulation of the way the world’s strong economies work on the world scene. If America is going to come back up in the world then it will have to fix it’s internal mess. That’s not Trump’s intention and he has said so publicly. Listen closely!
And then Dennis, that’s where the problem of psychopathy comes in with Trump. Argue that with me and we’ll see who is the idiot. Not to suggest that you are, but to suggest that you haven’t applied common sense which you show you most likely have
WTF…. Didn’t Hillard get the memo…??? Either Obama approved American leadership, support and complicity in the Turkey coup, or the military ran the operation behind his back.. Either way, it doesn’t matter… the cat is out and everyone seems to know, except Hillary and the main stream media. So she WANTS a reset in Syria, but the RESET she is going to GET will be the one inTurkey…..
MvGuy, spoken like a true prowar American. Your mouth was flapping before your brain kicked into gear.
Another example of Don G, the dunce, preaching to others while doing the same exact thing he accuses others of doing.
What kind of dementia would interpret MvGuy’s comment as “prowar?”
A complete puppet of the Israeli Firster neocons
Those fake laugh, open mouth pics of Hillary remind me of a maniacal Indian Joe from that early movie adaptation of Tom Sawyer.
Yeah, those fake laugh shots are irratating
Same problem as John Wells. Voice legitimate complaints about Clinton, don’t betray your own personality flaws by attacking her appearance.
You mean the way she called Bill’s victims, “Trailer Trash”, that woman you’re attempting to defend?
I don’t defend that which is not defendable. Don’t make accusations against me that are unfounded. If you want to refer to something specific and give details of what you’re talking about then do so.
Fwiw, I think that Clinton is the very worst politician to run against Trump. Or, there’s only one Dem Trump can beat and that is Hillary.
You just really aren’t very bright John but by all means keep making an ass of yourself. Maybe some of your hillbilly friends will even think you’re winning!
And yes, I know that patriotism trumps any antiwar sentiments you could ever have.
luv from Canada.
Hillary is the biggest neocon warmonger of them all, but the neocon warmonger wing of the Republican Party came from the “liberal interventionist” majority of the Democrat Party.
Hillary is a hawk, a warmonger, and a very bad choice as president. Trump is a psychopath and is a worst choice. I just tell it like it is John. And neocon is a term that Americans have invented in order to have somebody to lay the blame on for what their country has done in 37 wars of aggression since WW2 alone.
If justice was served then all of your politicians would be hanging from lampposts in the Hague. Clinton included.
You want to stay on the train headed towards the cliffs, vote for Hillary. You want someone who might be able to stop that train for a change, vote for Trump.
If I wanted to stay on the train headed toward the cliffs — or, quite frankly, the camps — I’d flip a coin to tell me whether to vote for Clinton or Trump.
I’m not interested in staying on that train. I don’t know who will get my vote for president yet, but it won’t be Clinton or Trump, because when you get right down to it I don’t hate America.
I agree with your assessment of Clinton, but how do you reckon that Trump “hates” America? Do you like illegal aliens continuing to come across the border? Do you like continued spending into bankruptcy? Do you like continual wars all over the world like we’re the lords of the planet?
Building a wall is the answer? Torturing “much worse” than waterboarding or going after family members of terrorists is the answer? How about his a** kissing of AIPAC? His bombastic remarks about the Iran deal? Comparing him to the witch doesn’t make him appealing it just makes her less appealing. Vote third party.
What candidate hasn’t a** kissed at AIPAC. Yes, building a wall is the answer to keeping law breakers from entering the United States. The Witch and her co-President, along with the Bush, opted for elective wars. Trump appears to be an improvement over the biggest warmonger of all – the Witch (as you correctly referred to her).
Wow, what a ringing endorsement. He’s better than the witch. Again, VOTE THIRD PARTY.
I don’t vote PARTY; i vote CANDIDATE. I vote TRUMP because only Trump or Hillary will win, and TRUMP is better than the WITCH.
Fine, then vote for the BEST candidate. And you just said you vote candidate and then you said you vote for someone who has a chance of winning and you’re going to pick the lesser of evils.
There’s some substance Wrus. It could promote an intelligent argument that will obviously fail based on Trump’s nonsense. Is the wall concept too difficult to understand as a ridiculous idea?
“how do you reckon that Trump ‘hates’ America?”
I didn’t say that Trump hates America. I said that I won’t vote for him because I don’t hate America. There’s a difference.
“Do you like illegal aliens continuing to come across the border?”
I don’t give a tinker’s damn whether or not peaceful people cross a gang turf line. I’m certainly not interested in spending more money trying — and utterly failing, as will surely be the result — to stop them.
“Do you like continued spending into bankruptcy?”
To the extent that Trump’s spending proposals are subject to analysis — which is kind of dicey since it’s not obvious that he means one minute what he meant the minute before or will mean five minutes from now — the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimates that Trump would increase the US national debt to $35.2 trillion, while Clinton would only increase it to $23.9 trillion.
“Do you like continual wars all over the world like we’re the lords of the planet?”
Nope. But I haven’t found any good reason to believe that that will change under Trump any more than it will under Clinton.
I like this reasoning. The day you can offer a post skewering Scott Adams on Trump will be worth waiting for (presuming it happens in the next 3 months).
Give us one Thane. Just one though so make it his best. Let’s get the dialogue going again so we can drown out the lowlife.
I am very unlikely to write such a post or comment as I find Scott Adams posts to be persuasive. I am not looking to drown out anybody as I am happy with others having different opinions.
That’s the libertarian message I can agree with entirely. I may not agree on the particular motivations that propel your thinking but I agree entirely with the message.
And besides Thomas, it’s elicited a response from Thane below which is an invitation for a little more elevated conversation on these board!
They come with drugs and crime, and are criminals the instant they cross the border illegally.
As far as “wars”, Hillary has supported every military action taken by Bush, Billy, Bush again, and Obama.
According to Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution, there’s no such thing as an “illegal immigrant.” So even the street gang’s own rules disagree with you.
If we went back to the original constitution, there’d be no legal definition of “interstate commerce” either.
Jeez & go figger… Politicians hanging…????? Now yer talkin n my talk…
I always have but you haven’t been clever enough to understand any of it. Clinton is a horrible choice but Trump is worse. I’ve told you numerous times the reason why. Now it’s up to you to look into what I’ve said.
Politicians are always made fun of, just like you with your preaching just did the same against Tom and I.
Like your baseless attacks on Trump? Wow. What a hypocrite.
Picking on physical attributes of a person only shows that you are a flawed person yourself. And choosing a woman to mock shows that you have a problem with powerful women especially.
Normal men who are able to accept women in society will attack women on legitimate grounds, and Clinton has plenty to attack.
So we know what you are now, but let this be a warning to the hordes of other Americans who walk the street with your problem.
It wasn’t fake when she laughed about Qaddafi being sodomized with a bayonet.
A President Hillary Clinton will bring us major wars in Middle East, Europe and probably the Far East as well.
It’s campaign talk because wars are popular with the American people. Whether she would follow through, or even be able to follow through with the threat against Assad is questionable now. Obama has done his job of setting red line demands, Assad and Putin wer onside with the demands. and the chem/bio weapons were destroyed. Now Russia is there to ensure that US demands are continued to be met by Assad and Russia has the credibility to remain in Syria to protect the Assad regime.
The US hawks have been completely snookered by Obama, Putin, and Assad in concert. All the US can legitimately impose on Syria now is a change of leader and Assas has said he is willing in time to step down. But actually, in fact he now has the legitimacy to stay, having met Obama’s red line demands.
On the other hand, the psychopathic Trump will recognize no Russian legitimacy and the power behind Putin that is MAD.Psychopaths know no fear and will not be defeated in any way.
luv from Canada.
“On the other hand, the psychopathic Trump will recognize no Russian legitimacy and the power behind Putin that is MAD.Psychopaths know no fear and will not be defeated in any way.” And your evidence for this is what? The voices in your head?
Correction: “The voices in his overblown ego.”
That’s the respect I want to hear from you hillbillies John. You won’t understand how you betray your feelings though.
Anyone who would vote for a liar like Hillary is mentally handicapped.
Worse she is a mass murderass… Killing people is funny, to Hillary.
I’ sure if we get Hillary we will get lots of laughs… “We came, we saw, he died…” Then the witch starts cackling.. Hard to make stuff like this up. I guess it’s meant to show, “She is STRONG”.. Like a man? Or a psychopathic sadist….???
Your resentment for women is showing. But you can take heart in the fact that many on this board are the same for the most part. There are plenty of rational and sincere reasons to hate Hllary Clinton but she being a woman is not one of them.
Keep it up, you betray the ugliness of your own personality. An ugliness that seems to gather plenty of sympathy on these boards.
luv from Canada.
The evidence that Trump is a corporate psychopath, which you will have to research for yourself. You’ll find plenty of references to just that. But after you establish that fact then it’s not difficult to find lots of evidence of how a psychopath operates. Another fine example would be Bernie Madoff.
Hey Jeremy Bash, look in the mirror jacka$$. The regime of Bush Jr., Obama, and I hope not, Hillary Clinton, is a “murderous regime”. Your loser Hillary caused this whole mess; you are responsible for this and should be brought to justice for war crimes.
Don G. Her Thighness is a bitch. How’s that for ya?
Yes, she has heavy thighs, but once again that is a criticism of a middle aged woman who is slightly overweight. Would it matter if she was a man?
And she may be a bitch but that word doesn’t explain anything. It just once again points to your personal resentment of women.
I’m o.k. with that John if that’s what you want to be known as here. I’ll just ignore it until you can show you have some personal substance.
John, you have chosen to f–k with the wrong person. I’m a lot smarter than you are John. At least until you can show that you want to demonstrate that you’re an adult. If you don’t care then you can be sure that I don’t either.
luv from Canada.
I saw how you like to f–k with other posters below, like you’re some f–king elitist egghead. You hate men like Hitlery does,you feminist impersonator.
You need to come to understand that you’re only giving me flattery when you call me an elitist egghead. Your resentment of people who you can’t come close to matching intellectually is your problem and nobody else’s problem. Keep it up and bring on more, you simple fool!
luv from Canada.
Only dunces like you, think they’re above mere mortals in the intelligence department. Key word “think”.
Can you read well enough to understand this?
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
I refuse to read your bilge.
But John, it’s not me that thinks I’m smart, it’s you. Haven’t you said it time after time?
all for a greater israel, yea right, NOT, israel will never be greater, it will be dust, soon
I really believe Vlad has his people tailing her.
I think Barak has someone listening in on Vlad, like he was tapping the phones of our allied leaders.
No doubt about it John but it’s silly to try to blame that on Obama. That’s only your racist hate coming out.
I never go to races.
A vote for Trump is a vote for war.
A vote for Killary is a vote for total war.
A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for peace.
A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for total peace.
Choose wisely.
First two right but at least limited war with Clinton because she’s not a corporate psychopath and she knows the threat of MAD. Trump wouldn’t becuase a psychopath knows no fear.
And the rest are a wasted vote.
There is no wise choice but choose the lesser of two evils.
F**k off TROLL.
I approve the redirection of you anger for your daddy toward me.
Exactly what Israel wants….
Hillary wants more death. She wasn’t satisfied with the number of deaths in Iraq, Libya, and Syria so far. She wants more. Vote for anyone but her.
I concur with all of what you say except that it’s imperative you don’t vote for Trump. When Trump attempts to make America great again at the expense of other powerful nuclear armed countries, as he has actually said, the world may very possibly come to know death as it never has before.
Argue all you like but argue with me against Trump being a corporate psychopath. And then if you have any doubts at all on what I say being true, then take the time to learn something about psychopathy. Read up on personalities such as Bernie Madoff for a glaring example. Read how he had no compassion for the millions whose lives he destroyed. Read up on how a psychopath will not accept compromise or defeat.
I take your word for it Nick but what is your point? I think you have failed to make it. Or maybe I’ve missed it? Can you explain further? I hope you haven’t drawn erroneous conclusions from what happened.
The evidence against Trump is there folks. I’m going to continue to present it and I will argue with it. If American care about their future then they will at least read it and offer some sound rebuttals:
http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/02/psychologist-explains-trump-is-literally-a-narcissistic-psychopath/
Shrinks can’t even agree at a murder trial if someone is insane or not, and you go off to the hinterlands of the internet to find some shrink for your confirmation bias. Disagree with intelligence if you dare…..
Donald Trump – our last, best hope for peace. What a world, what a world…
You forgot to include Russia
Hillary 2016!
World War 2017
Hillary Clinton is outright scary and crazy. Trump is loony too but his
foreign policy is far more sensible. It involves a lot more diplomacy
and talking. All Hillary Clinton knows is war and arming terrorists.