Addressing questions about the possibility of Turkish threats against Russian warplanes escalating into a full-scale war, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stollenberg committed NATO to providing military support in such a conflict, since NATO is there to “help and assist” Turkey.
Stollenberg talked up Turkey having the “second-largest army” in NATO and having a “capable” Air Force capable of being “first responders” in a conflict against Russia. It is unclear what metric Stollenberg was using to assess Turkey’s army in this way.
The whole notion of a conflict on this line stems from Russia’s air war against ISIS, and Turkish complaints that Russian planes briefly violated their airspace during one of their bombing runs. Russia insisted the violation was accidental, and Turkey responded by threatening to shoot down future Russian planes.
After similar complaints about Syrian planes, NATO sent some additional air defense assets to the Turkish border, though it was clear this was not done at the time with an eye toward starting a new world war against Russia, a fact that may be lost on the Turkish government, which in the run-up to elections is eager to please nationalists with a show of force.
NATO=NEW AL-QAIDA TERRORIST ORGANIZATION
The government of Turkey, Stollenberg and NATO are rotten to the core.
Right after the incident of Russian plane violating Turkish air space, both the president and the prime minister said that they received the explanation from Russia, and that they are satisfied, and consider the issue closed.
But NATO is not letting it being closed. And as Turkey is going into very dangerous election with the secessionist-minded Kurds on the offensive, and the super-convenient bombing of protestors — the last thing Turkey needs is an argument with NATO over the need for protecting Turkey. If elections will take place — and that is if — then there will be plenty of time for such academics. For now, just surviving until November 1, seems like ages.
Classic propaganda tactic: divide and conquer. Try to fabricate a false "split" between your opponents.
And at the same time the US is arming the Kurds who
are at war with the Turkish government….can't get any
better than this….or can it?
What yiu fail to see the logic in that? We arm all sides to a conflict, when is that something new?
Well, it could in fact. Putin getting so bogged down that he's overthrown back home would be even better.
Russia must have a military that is ten times more deadly then Turkey, so, where in the NATO charter does it say that wars of stupidity it will not support?
Numerous, perhaps, deadly, certainly not. Turkey's army is a high-tech NATO army, not a rickety cold war-era ramshackle. Since, in practical terms, Putin can't launch a land invasion of Turkey, I wouldn't be surprised if the Turkish air force was capable of dealing with the Russian air force without help from anyone.
Israel violates Syrian and Lebanese airspace every day, for decades, frequently with bombs – why isn't NATO threatening to attack them?
If Our Dear Leaders insist on playing at war, give 'em a computer game, so the rest of us can maybe try to have a life.
NATO needs to be disolved. Sooner or later the US is going to sucked into a major disasterously stupid war. The founding fathers warned against foreign entanglements. This is the stupidity they were talking about.
Since Turkey is a NATO member, this is hardly news. The US will naturally defend all NATO members including Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland and all the rest. The contrary would amount to disbanding the alliance and the US would lose its legal pretext for keeping troops and equipment near to Israel. Indeed, Putin getting into a shooting war with Turkey would be very convenient and he's fool enough and desperate enough to do it.
Nato wants to “help” again. Everyone wants a finger in the pier but soon therer will be nothing left but sand …all the humans will be turned into refugie
Nato wants to "help" again. Everyone wants a finger in the pier but soon therer will be nothing left but sand …all the humans will be turned into refugie
NATO is a militarism regime owned, managed and operated by European Neo fascism. These people have one thing in their mind, a war worm, they are psychologically sick, they always on lookout for creating wars so their wormish intelligent can be used. Turkey is a NATO puppet, turkey has been used and abused buy NATO for NATO since 2000. The Danish prime minister Anders Fough Rasmussen closed the Kurdish tv station in danmark, then he was voted to lead NATO, then turkey joined NATO. Look: if it was up to NATO leaders they would ask Saudis barbarians to joining, NATO is part military part political, is a high upper class members only club of non innocent people, NATO is a illegal military instrument belonging to European and American imperialism. The instrument is against any homegrown democracy, unity of nations and their cooperation, Turkish Erdogan regime is their desired candidate for their manipulative, destructive, devastation and human suffering project that they have planed for all o er the world, NATO leaders never been anti Israel inhuman actions against Palestinians, nor that Swedish King and his political party.
"The whole notion of a conflict on this line stems from Russia’s air war against ISIS, and Turkish complaints that Russian planes briefly violated their airspace during one of their bombing runs."
It looks like more than that. The Russian interceptor units have locked on to Turkish F-16's.
It looks like the Russians are threatening the Turkish idea of a no-fly zone or occupied safe zone inside Syria. It is a "try it and see what you get" move.
Mar 2, 2015 Relooking Europe: The Role of Land Forces
Please join us for a discussion with COL Foster about the future of land forces in Europe and the role of the 173rd Airborne Brigade going forward. The discussion will cover a range of issues and current events facing USAREUR, the 173rd Airborne Brigade's mission as part of OPERATION ATLANTIC RESOLVE, joint exercises with European allies, and the brigade's upcoming training mission in Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/3s7Dpm5RyJo
APRIL 02, 2014 NATO Plans Global Dominance
NATO was established in April 1949. It's a US imperial tool. It's been this way from inception. Washington provides the lion's share of funding. It's around 75%. Claiming a NATO "political and military alliance for peace and security" doesn't wash. It never did. It's polar opposite truth. NATO's mission is offense, not defense.
http://sjlendman.blogspot.ch/2014/04/nato-plans-g….
Jan 28, 2015 Suspected ISIS leader in Pakistan admits receiving funds via US report
A suspected Islamic State operative in Pakistan, Yousaf al Salafi, confesses to recruiting jihadists to fight in Syria, and says he received funds, wired through the U.S. RT's Gayane Chichakyan reports.
https://youtu.be/m3CRWcR4U5o
Will NATO vow support to Turkey if they go to war with Israel?
Certain morons need to realize that Russia is on Turkey's border. If Turkey wants to start a war with Russia, Russia will have no problem "projecting force" into Turkey sufficiently to destroy much of Turkey's infrastructure. And Russia has clearly demonstrated it has enough "high-tech" weapons to do so.
Turkey has maybe 2500 tanks – Russia has 8,000. Turkey has 500,000 military troops with another 150-200,000 reserves; Russia has over a million plus 2 million reserves. Russia has tactical nukes. Turkey doesn't. No contest.
Turkey is only throwing its weight around because it thinks NATO will help it and that NATO can defeat Russia. I suspect that's being WAY overconfident. To defeat Russia, NATO would either have to go nuclear – resulting in WWIII – or invade – and invasion would be a failure on a par with WWII. Russians don't quit.
First rule of war, as articulated by General Montgomery:
Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: "Do not march on Moscow". Various people have tried it, Napoleon and Hitler, and it is no good. That is the first rule. I do not know whether your Lordships will know Rule 2 of war. It is: "Do not go fighting with your land armies in China". It is a vast country, with no clearly defined objectives. – In the House of Lords, 30 May 1962 (Hansard, Col. 227)
The United States has broken the second rule of war. That is: don't go fighting with your land army on the mainland in Asia. Rule One is, don't march on Moscow. I developed those two rules myself.
– Interview, 2 July, 1968; quoted in New York Times, 3 July, 1968, p. 6.