Speaking today at a press conference ahead of a national security council meeting, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko announced that he intends to propose a ceasefire with the eastern separatist factions.
Poroshenko said the ceasefire would officially be offered later this week, and would only come after the military has seized the Russian border back from the rebels.
Poroshenko argued that it would be “irresponsible” to make a ceasefire while the border remains open, and said that while he was open to “amnesty” for protesters it wouldn’t include those involved in violence in the east.
So far there is no response from the separatists on the prospect of a ceasefire, but they seem unlikely to willingly give up without some concessions made ahead of time.
He honoured that Dr. Strangelove statement, like many similar previous ones coming from the Nazi-junta, with more grad missiles and phosporous bombs against civillians, hospitals and other infrastructure causing a steady flood of refugees to Russia. (which seems to be the intent since soldiers & civillians from Banderastan proper are offered "land and homes" from where these people have fled)
"So far there is no response from the separatists on the prospect of a ceasefire" -Ditz.
There have been and there is:
Namely that the nazi regime withdraw it´s military hardware, soldiers and RS and mercenarie death squads from the territory of Novorossiya before any such talks can take place and respect´s their referendum. A very reasonable requests since it was the Nazi junta that started bombing and killing them long before the elections that led to it. One thing is certain: After the Odessa massacre, "ukraine" ceased to exist.
One the one hand, the US imposed junta ignores the legitimate vote of the people of Novorossiya but somehow cares for them by trying to eliminate their defences against their death squads and deliberately destroying their infrastructure, electricity and water facilities and on the other calling them, all of them, "subhumans" (untermensch) and "terrorists" like the V.Nudelman imposed PM "Yats" did the other day.
Question: Why are the people of Novorossiya fleeing abroad to Russia and not Kiev if what chocolate-Hitler Petro Poroshenko/ Waltzman say´s officially is true? I know for sure that if some foreign imposed fascist junta in a self proclaimed state called me and my family "subhumans" and tried their best to kill us, i would pick up arms myself and tell my family to flee but certainly not in the direction where the threats and bombs came from…
Poroshenko must be suffering from delusions!!
The Eastern Ukrainians would be stupid to agree to a ceasefire without concrete proposals from Kiev regarding human rights and treatment of freedom fighters by the Kiev Nazi Junta which holds power in the rest of the country.
ALL THE EASTERNERS ARE INVOLVED IN SOME WAY IN THE ACTION IN DONETSK AND LUHANSK.
Does this mean that ALL Eastern Ukranians will be PUNISHED if they lay down their arms and throw themselves on the mercy of the NAZI FACIST Regeime headed by Poroshenko?
That would be the stupidest mistake of all.
Besides Poroshenko has no hope of closing the border with Russia completely so he has left himself an escape clause.
It is interesting to note that Yanoukovitsh during maydan protests proposed to stop violence.Opposition agreed only if all protesters in jail for violence would be released and receive total impunity.What was granted for opposition by Yanoukovitsh is not proposed to Donetsk region by Poroshenko.
The second point is that the people from Donetsk region have no warranty that they will be not jailed after they stop fighting.Usually Kiev do not keep his word.More over people from Donetsk region think that Kiev want to get rid of them.Otherwise western companies could face local opposition for the extraction of schist gaz.
This is roughly what I expected. It wrongfoots the rebels totally. With the Russian border closed, they can obtain arms only by attacking Ukrainian military and police posts, thereby breaking the ceasefire. The Ukrainian military and police, on the other hand, will use the ceasefire to continue training and equipping their special forces. The amnesty will cause all but a handful of diehards to just go home and get on with their normal lives. The diehards will either be killed or will be "allowed" to slip into Russia.
What ceasefire???
Poroshenko says a ceasefire will only be declared AFTER he has secured thr Russian border – which will never happen.
In short, "Just give up."
Poroshenko can say whatever he wants, if Paribuy does not approve, will not happen. Kyiv Post has daily about five quotes from Paribuy (head of the Council for National Security and Defense), to about one from the President. And as soon as President mentiones cease fire — assuming both sides just stop shooting — Paribuy is immediately all over the media demanding that the "terrorists" lay down their weapons and leave the country, or else the miltary action will continue. Now, who is the REAL ruler of Ukraine? From all appearances, the nazi leaders in Rada, street-installed government that is headed by well known, self-proclaimed and long known, Nazi leaders, organizers and ideological leaders.
Poroshenko is not delusional, he has two "rational" (for those of his ilk) objectives. First, the war against an imaginary aggressor is the best justification for total government failure, so he needs to pretend that Ukraine is attacked. Second, considering how he and the whole Kyiv gang came to power, he cannot veer far away from Obama's playbook. US needs the semblance of war in Ukraine to drag down Russia and EU, and to clear Donbass of people, so that companies, in one of which Joe Biden's son already has a lucrative job, can frack as much as they want without local protests (dead people don't protest; as Stalin once said, "no person, no problem").
Hence he proposes something patently unacceptable to Eastern Ukrainians: surrender and voluntarily go to our concentration camps to be sorted, and then I will stop shelling and bombing you.
He does not expect anybody in the East to buy it, he plays for his supporters in Galichina, who heartily approve of any atrocity towards Eastern Ukrainians, as it is reminiscent of what their fathers and grandfathers did when they served Hitler.