On the first day of his visit to Israel, President Barack Obama spent time with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, saying largely the same things in slightly different ways with respect to a potential war with Iran.
Both agreed that Israel has a “right to self defense” that extends to unilaterally attacking Iran, with Netanyahu insisting that the “essence” of the state of Israel was its right to be masters of the Jewish people and to attack Iran in defense of that mastery.
As far as the prospect of not attacking Iran, both leaders conceded that there was some time remaining, with President Obama emphasizing that the time for diplomacy still exists and Netanyahu taking the angle, so often parroted by the US State Department, that the time is “running short.”
In the end President Obama insisted there was “not much difference” between Israel and the US with respect to starting a war with Iran, a scary prospect since even normally hawkish Israeli officials have expressed concern with Netanyahu’s eagerness to start a war with potentially global implications. The hope is that the lip-service about starting a war, something that both US and Israeli officials have expressed for decades, will be enough to satisfy the PM at the start of his latest term, and forestall any actual, real wars.
So much for Obama and Hagal reigning in Nutanyahoo.
Whatever gave you the idea that was ever on the agenda? Would be nice but there has never been any indication from Obama that that was what he was planning on doing.
I didn't believe it either but our old Friend Justin Raimondo did, at least for a while.
But romney would have, right Johnny?
It's all talk. Obama isn't really behind the israelis. He's not gonna give them the green light for war.He's just doing a lot of political theater.
But IF Netanyahoo finds his balls and goes ahead an initiates a unilateral strike on Iran, Obama will fall into line and fully support our "most important ally"… wouldn't want to taint the Jewish vote in South Florida for Hillary. If you think the Israel-Firsters in the Knesset – I mean Congress – are rabid now, wait until Obama basically tells Bibi, "Sorry Charlie, but we can't afford it so…well…you're on your own. You started it, you own it."
In the begining of Syrien war Hillary Clinton Said " this is the last ting we are going to do in Middle East" by now it must be clear to everyone that she as Obama been playing everyone and for that reason you hear the words as unbreakable relation, commitment and indefinite US and Israel relation.., that's what she meant and tha t" last thing" is the outcome of the Syrian war.., present situation is to brake it or solve it once and for all. So is going to "get messy" as Obama said.
In the meantime, the February 6th IAEA report on IRAN shows that Iran as a member of the IAEA and NPT signer and who's IAEA inspections have found NO FAULT with Iran's nuclear energy program.
The IAEA even said that there is no evidence that Iran has diverted any uranium towards any weapon's that are nuclear based. ANY AMERICAN can fully read this report ONLINE.
The only concern the IAEA has was that Iran plans further "Plant's" in the future and the IAEA wants to know the scope of these plants. But since these plants haven't even been built yet that is a strange request.
What is clear?
As we daily read about Fukushima and the constant problems since the Meltdown, that Israel like in GAZA and West Bank will violate more International Laws in Attacking Iran's Nuclear Energy and cause the Reactor to also go into Meltdown thus spewing Radioactive Isotopes and other Uranium into the Prevailing Winds of Iran.
For those who might be curious? You can view Iran's NORMAL WINDS and see where this Radioactivity will spread and who will get massive cancers from the fall-out. Would it be a War Crime or a Crime against Humanity in bombing Iran? While Israel refuses to sign the NPT and refuses to allow any inspections of their KNOWN Nuclear WEAPON'S.
Most American's don't know that it was the United States that GAVE Iran their nuclear energy in the "Atoms for Peace" programs.
Iran "Never said, Wipe Israel from the map" and this has been confirmed by many language scholars. Like Israel and the US who constantly call for "Regime Change" Iran too has said, "That the Zionist Regime should be erased from the pages of time." NOT ISRAEL. If this was so… Then WHY can over 25,000 Jew's live in Iran in TOTAL PEACE? Would not Iran killed them a long long time ago? There used to be over 100,000 Jew's in Iran. But due to years of Illegal Settlements being built in Palestine and Jew's being PAID to migrate to Israel that number has dropped over the years.
In any event, I sure hope that Israel get's RUSSIA'S and CHINA'S OK to bomb Iran or WWIII will breakout. Just as the US is Arming and sending money into Terrorist's in Syria, Russia has said 3 times now that they wont let Syria become another Libya.
This as recently Russia Nuclear bombers were over Guam is a clear sign that Russia is not the sleeping bear any longer. As the US continues to encircle Russia and China with their Missiles and Russia has said it will take out these sites.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in over 200 years. Israel just wants Iran out of the way to continue their Ethnic Cleansing and HOLOCAUST of the Palestinian People. Every time Israel makes WAR in GAZA they instantly point to IRAN as a pure distraction as to decades of Israel's International Law breaking and UN Resolutions they refuse to abide by.
The HOLY SCRIPTURES refer to SPIRITUAL ISRAEL not a physical Israel. Israel in the Bible is a PEOPLE.
See LUKE 21:20-24
Attacking Iran will ignite the Middle East and spread to a World War.
The only HOPE is to continue to press for War Crimes going forward which upon that outcome it would then place Sanctions on Israel and defund the Racist Apartheid State. The BDS movement continues to gain and strength as is now seen from other countries speaking up on behalf of Boycotts and other means towards Israel.
In the meantime, the February 6th IAEA report on IRAN shows that Iran as a member of the IAEA and NPT signer and who's IAEA inspections have found NO FAULT with Iran's nuclear energy program.
The IAEA even said that there is no evidence that Iran has diverted any uranium towards any weapon's that are nuclear based. ANY AMERICAN can fully read this report ONLINE.
The only concern the IAEA has was that Iran plans further "Plant's" in the future and the IAEA wants to know the scope of these plants. But since these plants haven't even been built yet that is a strange request.
What is clear?
As we daily read about Fukushima and the constant problems since the Meltdown, that Israel like in GAZA and West Bank will violate more International Laws in Attacking Iran's Nuclear Energy and cause the Reactor to also go into Meltdown thus spewing Radioactive Isotopes and other Uranium into the Prevailing Winds of Iran.
For those who might be curious? You can view Iran's NORMAL WINDS and see where this Radioactivity will spread and who will get massive cancers from the fall-out. Would it be a War Crime or a Crime against Humanity in bombing Iran? While Israel refuses to sign the NPT and refuses to allow any inspections of their KNOWN Nuclear WEAPON'S.
Most American's don't know that it was the United States that GAVE Iran their nuclear energy in the "Atoms for Peace" programs.
Iran "Never said, Wipe Israel from the map" and this has been confirmed by many language scholars. Like Israel and the US who constantly call for "Regime Change" Iran too has said, "That the Zionist Regime should be erased from the pages of time." NOT ISRAEL. If this was so… Then WHY can over 25,000 Jew's live in Iran in TOTAL PEACE? Would not Iran killed them a long long time ago? There used to be over 100,000 Jew's in Iran. But due to years of Illegal Settlements being built in Palestine and Jew's being PAID to migrate to Israel that number has dropped over the years.
In any event, I sure hope that Israel get's RUSSIA'S and CHINA'S OK to bomb Iran or WWIII will breakout. Just as the US is Arming and sending money into Terrorist's in Syria, Russia has said 3 times now that they wont let Syria become another Libya.
This as recently Russia Nuclear bombers were over Guam is a clear sign that Russia is not the sleeping bear any longer. As the US continues to encircle Russia and China with their Missiles and Russia has said it will take out these sites.
Iran hasn't attacked anyone in over 200 years. Israel just wants Iran out of the way to continue their Ethnic Cleansing and HOLOCAUST of the Palestinian People. Every time Israel makes WAR in GAZA they instantly point to IRAN as a pure distraction as to decades of Israel's International Law breaking and UN Resolutions they refuse to abide by.
The HOLY SCRIPTURES refer to SPIRITUAL ISRAEL not a physical Israel. Israel in the Bible is a PEOPLE.
See LUKE 21:20-24
Attacking Iran will ignite the Middle East and spread to a World War.
The only HOPE is to continue to press for War Crimes going forward which upon that outcome it would then place Sanctions on Israel and defund the Racist Apartheid State. The BDS movement continues to gain and strength as is now seen from other countries speaking up on behalf of Boycotts and other means towards Israel.
"…have found NO FAULT with Iran's nuclear energy program. .."
But, but, ALL the MSM and nonMSM scream that Iran IS BUILDING THE BOMB!!! How is it possible that they are ALL wrong? Could it be they're all drinking at the war-monger, Israel-Firster trough? Hmmm? Could it?
Besides, real facts are irrelevant and shouldn't be listened to…all they do is confuse the issue and make people start to question their nationalism and their universal guilt over what the Nazis did to the Juden.
"…have found NO FAULT with Iran's nuclear energy program. .."
But, but, ALL the MSM and nonMSM scream that Iran IS BUILDING THE BOMB!!! How is it possible that they are ALL wrong? Could it be they're all drinking at the war-monger, Israel-Firster trough? Hmmm? Could it?
Besides, real facts are irrelevant and shouldn't be listened to…all they do is confuse the issue and make people start to question their nationalism and their universal guilt over what the Nazis did to the Juden.
It's sooooooo bothersome to me that the "left" has been basically silent since '08. Anti-war "left" PLEASE STAND UP!! *crickets*
With both the US and Israel saying effectively they want to wipe Iran from the map, doesn't Iran have the right to defend itself too?
With both the US and Israel saying effectively they want to wipe Iran from the map, doesn't Iran have the right to defend itself too, just like all countries have the right to defend themselves?
Capitalism and Warism are twins of the devilish Nature,and to survive it requires all the time''SCAPEGOAT''.Unfortunately there are many in the pipeline,unless the pipe itself is broken.
Actually capitalism, specifically lasissez faire capitalism, is the exact opposite of warism. To say the freedom of consenting adults to engage in mutually beneficial transactions is identitical to microwaving innocent people with nuclear weapons, fire bombing large densly populated cities, and using killer robots to kill teenagers with the wrong father is stupid.
"The draft, worthless money, gas lines, martial law, metal detectors in supermarkets, cameras everywhere, everything filmed, recorded, everyone every day, biometrics, face recognition, these things will be part of our lives from now on. These are the plans and putting this machinery in place, much of it “designed” in Israel, is what Americans voted for, this and the invasion of Iran, part of a war where only Americans will fight and die.
No one cares about Iran. No knowledgeable person ever thought they had nuclear weapons or wanted them. It was never about them. They were never a target, they were never a threat. The threat, the target, was always the United States. We were the danger, a free people.
Free people can’t be trusted, can’t be managed.
The plans are in place to bring that to an end. How many Americans will continue to be a part of it?" http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/11/11/gordon-du…
Obama a war criminal (for continuing the criminal war against the people of Iraq started by Bush) and child murderer (the drone murder of the boy Abdulrahman al-Awlaki for having the wrong father) is possibly adding to his crimes. By publicly endorsing Netanyahu's "right" to wage a preventive war against the people of Iran he has made himself complicit for any criminal acts Netanyahu might take as a result of that endorsement. Obama seems to determined to burn in hell along side Bush, Cheny, and Blair.
Since "Israel" is an illegitimate concept to begin with, its "right of self-defense" is also a fictitious concept. The "right" to attack Iran is just an expanded version of an original lie. It's like watching a bad commando movie. Anything goes.
Best way for this dog to learn not to chase cars is to let him catch one.
“We must define our position and lay down basic principles for a settlement. Our demands should be moderate and balanced, and appear to be reasonable. But in fact they must involve such conditions as to ensure that the enemy rejects them. Then we should manoeuvre and allow him to define his own position, and reject a settlement on the basis of a compromise solution. We should then publish his demands as embodying unreasonable extremism.” – General Yehoshafat Harkabi, Ma’ariv, 2 November 1973.
“The state of Israel must invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the methods of provocation and revenge…. And above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space.” — From the diary of Moshe Sharett, Israeli’s first Foreign Minister from 1948-1956, and Prime Minister from 1954-1956.
“We came here to a country that was populated by Arabs and we are building here a Hebrew, a Jewish state; instead of the Arab villages, Jewish villages were established. You even do not know the names of those villages, and I do not blame you because these villages no longer exist. There is not a single Jewish settlement that was not established in the place of a former Arab Village.” – Moshe Dyan, March 19, 1969, speech at the Technion in Haifa, quoted in Ha’aretz, April 4, 1969.
“Among ourselves, it must be clear that there is no place in the country for both peoples together. With the Arabs we shall not achieve our aim of being an independent people in this country. The only solution is Eretz-Israel, at least the west part of Eretz-Israel, without Arabs . . . And there is no other way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighbouring countries. Transfer all of them, not one village or tribe should remain . . .” –Joseph Weitz, entry in his diary for 1940 (quoted in his article: ‘A solution to the Refugee Problem: An Israeli State with a small Arab Minority’, published in Davar, 29 September, 1967.
Peace would come to Palestine in 1 minute …. just stop the WELFARE CHECKS.
Make war a NON-PROFIT endeavor and peace will break out.
I doubt that Obama will ever support an attack on Iran, but the hawks who want one may well be able to get him out of the White House before his term expires. This should not be difficult. Obama has committed numerous impeachable offenses. In addition, his popularity will tank with Obamacare and an economic implosion. I give Obama another year in the White House, then he goes the way of Richard Nixon.
Or, dare I say……. Kennedy?
Even a "Seven Days In May" scenario isn't entirely unthinkable at this low point in our history.
He's a maniac. I'll let others decide for themselves who I mean by "he".
He's a maniac. I'll let others decide for themselves who I mean by "he".
I think Obama made a deaL Netanyahoo to attack Iran in exchange for not saying anything that would make Obama look bad to Jewish and Evangelist voters before the election in addition to laying off him in other ways.
Plus Obama is totally a Hawk.
The stupidity of this is undeniable in light of the disaster of American Foreign policy which has resulted in Sharia being imposed everywhere by governments it helps to overthrow.
I wish the iranans had listend to me, a simple commentor from the peanut gallery. I told them all they had to do was get 1 nuke, threaten to shoot it at Israel and 1/4 o would leave right away, this would be the best and brightest. You would see such a capital flight and brain drain as never before, Israels economy would sink into the toilet. There saner citizens would leave, leaving the most radical members in control, with enough rope they would eventually hang themselves.
The second thing to do is declare AIPAC to be part of a foreign government. There are other steps that could be taken like firing zionists from positions of power and influence especially in the media.