The loss of a Turkish F-4 warplane over the Mediterranean, off the coast of Syria, on Friday has set the stage for a high-profile NATO meeting to decide exactly what the military alliance will do to Syria in retaliation.
The details of the shoot down aside, the meeting gives the alliance what many of its members have been seeking, an opportunity to argue a plausible reason for a military invasion of Syria and a NATO-imposed regime change.
Turkey is calling the alliance together on the basis of Article 4 of the NATO treaty, which provides for meetings “after a member is attacked.” This seems the loosest sense of the word since Turkey has admitted to violating Syrian airspace and Syria insists it didn’t know what the plane speeding toward its coast was.
Turkey did not elect to try to use Article 5, which would be a much more serious incident, because it would be even harder to claim that the apparently inadvertent downing of a single military aircraft after a territorial violation constituted a serious threat to Turkey’s territorial integrity.
The facts of the incident are likely to be extremely secondary, however, as nations like Britain and France, which have made no bones about seeking NATO regime change in Syria, look to spin the incident as proof they need to start a war.
it's a good thing we have nato otherwise the syrians would pour through the fulda gap.
We have said this before: The situation in Syria is yet another scenario orchestrated by England-US and some other NATO countries like they did in Balkan diving Yugoslavia, the only thing that is different is that Turkey was not involved in bombing Yugoslavia and not to many intellectuals were talking about the Saudis and their participation in that war.
The Balkan war was about dividing one of the independent and progressive countries in Eastern Europe and opening a pathway for Oil and natural gas export from Caspian Sea to Europe via Kosovo.
1- Syrian war is about separating the social political and economic friendships between Lebanon, Iraq and Iran.
2-who is behind and paying for the costs of the war among others, are Saudi Arabia and UAE Kingdome families.
3-who is benefiting beside these Tyrants, US and NATO militaristic – strategic and economical interests in the region.
4-Why, because if Syria is divided or its regimes changed or what is called Syrian “rebels” take over, then the country, as in Libya, will see a NATO military base in Syria within few months.
5-If that happens then Russia is completely isolated from South.
6- if all the above happens, then US and EU hegemony in dominating the world economy is materialized, why.., because it is them, as Hillary Clinton put it: “US have to lead the world economy”, or as Paul Wolfowitz have said, “now that USSR is no longer there it is time for US to face those and by all means that stands in front of US interests”. Here, this man is referring to the world source of energy in Persian Gulf and Central Asia in one hand and in the other for US to be in a better position facing China and Russia economy growth
7-in case if that happens then Vulture capitalism taken over the world economy, which in real time, as today’s time and date, people around the world will see a world with more war for regimes changes or dividing nations as US and NATO militarism systems wanting to dominate the world economy.
NATO is a land – grabbing European tool lead by the Europeans NEO fascism, here US government can not have a legal battle with NATO regarding human rights violations, war crimes and etc. for two reasons, one: NATO is the entity of the US government, it was built by the US so US needs to follow or plan the NATO next mission. As Madeleine Albright have said it best, “what is so good about this army if we can not use it”, here she referring the matter not only to US militarism regime but directing it to NATO cooperation in Balkan war and future wars as now.
Second: US have its own agenda and interests; therefore, since the Balkan war and succeeded war in dividing Yugoslavia, US- Israel -NATO-Saudi Arabia- Turkey- Jordanian have become the new military partner doing the same as they have in Yugoslavia wanting to divide, or changing the Syrian regime and all others, or creating a long term, very long regional wars, if possible taking this war to Lebanon and Iraq, the Kurdish regions in Turkey and Syria for one reason and one reason only, to separate, weaken the friendship between the nations in northern Persian Gulf. That is the only part in Middle East – Persian Gulf that US and NATO don’t have any military base and that is the only way for US and NATO governments to achieve the goal of Paul Wolfowitz, Madeline Albright and now Hillary Clinton. The complexity of all these wars are about the ideological terms understood by US and EU “democrats” and kind of “democracy” that they present, rest what they are talking about as Democracy, Nation Building and Regime change and etc. are yet another bogus language used and abused by these politicians to fool their own people with, as Barak Hussein Obama has done.
Mojo, someone at Anti-war loves you. You comment has exactly 655 words. Mine had only 240, and they told me to cut it down because it was too long.
Nathan, Any idea who "they" is? I don't moderate comments for length, and have never been asked to.
Thomas, I don’t have a clue who it might have been. But when I clicked to post, the sign popped up. In fact, several months ago it also happened once. In both cases I cut them short, but as you know cutting a message short may sometimes lose the meaning and the punch. Thank you.
That is because I am a friend of Julian Assange…..?
Turkish plane shot down over Gulf of Tonkin.
An F-4. An outdated fighter aircraft more suited for training pilots than carrying out missions. As Turkey was already a base for rebel activity and for US operatives to assist anti-Asad groups, it should not be a surprise that it would take part in a premeditated action to precipitate a war to give NATO an excuse to invade Syria. For some time, neocons had wanted to overthrow the Syrian government just as it did with Iraq and as it wants to do with Iran. The destructive outcome of Iraq as well as Libya should ring a warning siren to Americans not to be fooled into another costly and needless war. We cannot rule the world, and it is time we turn our attention to improving our own country.
This is the exact situation why Russia does not want a common border with any NATO country and also why NATO wants it badly. Any stupidity done on purpose can be taken as serious enough for war. I think that althoug crazies as Cillary Hlinton or her GB puppy and of course idiots as Johny MacCain or that moron Mormon emperor candidate will of course call for harsh dealing with Syria. Not to mention all Jewish neocons, newspapers editors and members of Congress. But Putin this time will not blink and all the NATO voltures will go for a flight. If they are not crazy enough to see Putin blinking.
Sure, let England and France, the colonial criminals of the past, together with their puppet Turkey send their planes on bombing missions to Syria and watch their planes drop out of sky like dead locusts, their pilots being cut to pieces by the angry people when they parachute on the ground. That ought to give them a second thought next time around. Syria is not Libya.
The Turkish F-4 was a cold war relic that was expendable. In a classic tactic to prepare for offensive maneuvers, the US used to fly fighter aircraft along the FEBA (the border between the combatants) in an attempt to provoke the Russians to turn on their radars, thereby locating them for later targeting. Every anti-aircraft radar is a target when the shooting starts. In Iraq the US used F-117 fighter bombers to eliminate anti-aircraft radars at the outset of the bombing campaign. NATO and the US military are probing the Syrian defenses to assess weaknesses and potential responses. The information from the shoot down will help the NATO forces to know what radars, what AAA, what missiles, etc are located where. This is just more preparations for the imminent attack on Syria. Hillary can grunt all she wants. This was a planned NATO exercise with a specific purpose.
Please the proper nomenclature is Hitlery!
going to war with Syria is going to war with Russia. Don't they see that? Don't they see that this is only going to reignite the cold war?
Wow, never thought about this… Why exactly do you think a war with syria actually means a war with russia?
Not in my worst dreams did I imagine this syria situation to blow over
People will always be able to find excuses, but what really matters is the real reason and how to get rid of it.
I'm surprised of ow many people know it's just an excuse and how still nobody does a thing about it