With weeks of major protests in the wake of a February incident in which US soldiers conducted a massive, organized book burning including large numbers of Qurans, it would have been difficult to imagine how US-Afghan relations could possibly get any worse.
Today, we have the answer, as a US soldier (or by some accounts multiple US soldiers) massacred a large number of Afghan civilians in the Kandahar Province overnight, fueling yet more outrage at the behavior of the long-standing occupation force.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai was quick to condemn the massacre, saying that having US soldiers intentionally slaughtering civilians is “unforgivable.” Villagers say that the victims, some as young as two, were “not Taliban.”
President Obama expressed “condolences” over the deaths, but insisted that the wholesale slaughter of innocent civilians in their homes “does not represent the exceptional character of our military.” NATO has said that investigations are ongoing.
The Afghans have every right to be angry. Afghaniscam, where Empires go to lose their morality and soul. This messy escapade will turn out very badly.
Some people are wondering whether the Afghans permit NATO troops to leave, alive. They may just have to fight there way out.
Might have to fight their way out anyways. The road is still closed through Pakistan
Some might say that our "Empire" lost it's "morality and soul" long before Afghanistan.
I think we should stay in Afghanistan until Afghans learn to fully appreciate "the exceptional character of our military."
Leave it to that filthy, bloodthirsty scum bag Obama to add insult to injury with such cartoonishly insulting rhetoric. Since when does senseless mass murder “not represent the exceptional character of our military"? The only thing "our miltary" does is senseless mass murder. That's the business they're in. They participate in illegal, immoral wars of aggression.
Obama is nothing more than John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy in a suit and tie. Yep, our Masters' talent scounts hit the jackpot with Obama; they've stuck us with a photogenic, smooth-talking, Kenyan-born psychopath, who could murder a million people before breakfast, and do it with a great big smile.
another day another slaughter, usually they just put some old weapons on the civillians they kill and call them 'insurgents'.
The United States Armed Forces has lost all its credibility. Clearly, the U.S. forces no longer liberate, (as if they ever did.) When soldiers become thugs, the military has lost its discipline. The U.S. military is devolving into a crime gang. Something is very wrong at the root, and the evil lies deeper than any Obama or Bush. It's time for the U.S.A. military to stop, (or be stopped.) It is time for U.S. forces to leave the countries they occupy, and the U.S.A. people need to reassess what they are supporting.
The ironic thing here is the fact that by slaughtering 16 innocent people this soldier may have saved thousands. This inicent lay bare the idea and absurdity of fighting for peace. If these people would have been protesting or attending the funeral of a Taliban fighter and the US dropped a bomb that killed them, they would have all become insurgents and militants. How is it that Afghans fall for all the other lies?
"….a US soldier (or by some accounts multiple US soldiers……)
Of course it was multiple soldiers! This is a Pat Tillman-level military LIE, as the weasels are desperately scrambling to contain the horrible truth.
It's interesting that when atrocities are committed by our side it's always a single, "bad apple"……..yeah right..
This is an atrocity. This is behavior for which we severly criticized the Soviet war in Afghanistan and called for war crimes tribunals. As has been said so eloquently…"war is the rich man's terrorism.".
Empire USA has the most wealth — Therefore it is the most violent
This Sgt. of the Special Forces who just slaughtered 17 Afghan civilians, he is the product of a deadly Empire, the most violent and deadly nation the world has ever known. For the upper half of American society hoards all the wealth, which requires that they have the largest police force on earth, the end result being their jails and prisons house over a forth of all the prisoners on earth.
And as it is in Empire USA, so it is in Afghanistan, a rich ruling class striving to kill and enslave the lower half of society.
Bruce Richardson
“War is the rich man’s terrorism”
Howard Zinn
“If you don’t know history,
its as if you were born yesterday”
I beg to differ. Massacre clearly represents not only our military establishment, but alos our political establishment. I was in the military from 1981 to 2006. We laugh at slaughter, even when it is our own troops. We crack jokes and soldiers brag about kills. One unit had a First Sergeant go out on convoys just so he could kill and Iraqi -and kill an Iraqi he did. I guy I knew was in armor and when they pulled into Bagdad a guy came out of his house to see the Americans and he was promptly blasted. The soldier joked that he should not be coming out of his house to be looking around when tanks were coming by. We slaughtered first responders and then listened to radio traffic justifying the slaughter if children after killing a news crew. The list of atrocities goes on ad nauseum. There is only one solution to this mess and they is for the people in the White House to stand war crimes trials.
The only way to do right in this situation is to hold a joint investigation and trial (US plus Afghanistan). If found guilty, the perpetrator(s) should be turned over to the Afghans for punishment. They would probably carry out a sentence of public beheading. If so, the whole garrison should be in full dress uniform, no weapons, and marched to the beheading site and made to stand at attention, "eyes front!", as the sentence is carried out.
Of course, this will not happen because we are a nation without honor, anymore. We are all Israelis now.
Interesting. Kill civilians using a drone flown from a military base in the US and hear nothing more than a news blurb… maybe. Do it in person and all hell breaks loose. What actually justifies the difference in coverage? Because it was "personal" instead of "impersonal"? So what?
Does not represent our military? What the hell?!! That's like saying the Holocaust doesn't represent the face of National Socialism. Who the hell is this evil robot?!
Western Press talk about 'an incident' trying to minimize the crimes perpetrated in the ME (Gaza/WestBank) and Afghanistan. This is happening all the time: on the ground and from the air. It shows the disdain these criminal racial thugs (including western politicians) have for people of different ethnic origins, culure and religion.
Palin called afghans savages on a network interview but we are sooo busy jabbering about a law student being called a slut
The security industry and leading pentagon generals subscribe to Palins "savages" meme and they are having bible study groups on the sidelines of the war in af-pk. What planet do these people live on
Look, there is no way they would allow one soldier off the base by himself. NONE whatsoever.
More than one American was involved as no single soldier would have been allowed outside the compound, heavily armed with a vehicle.
Gate security received authorization for the “mission” from the watch officer at the “Combat Operations Center” at the base, the 24 hour nerve center than coordinates both offensive and defensive missions for even the smallest commands.
No “reaction force” was sent to investigate though this was right outside the gates. Radio contact would have been attempted, and there would be recorded records of this and all other activities, as required by normal procedures.
Lone gunman, sure. Right. Try an AUTHORIZED OPERATION, friends.
As this act was so criminal and barbaric in nature, the murder of small children, setting bodies on fire and the reports of multiple soldiers involved, we are beset with questions.
The fire is proof, started with gasoline from a jerrycan. Vehicle means gate which means vehicle which means team which means radios and authorized operation.
Imagine that! They're angry because a mercenary or mercenaries went postal and open fire on their civilians, slaughtering some 16 of them – mostly children – and going as far as dragging their bodies and burning them just for the hell of it. I can't understand why the Afghans would be so sensitive to that kind of thing. After all, they should know how exceptional their invaders are and how they have an inherent…ney, a god given right to do that sort of thing and much, much more.
"President Barack Obama said Monday that the massacre of 16 Afghan civilians by a U.S. soldier made him "more determined" to stick to his plan to bring US troops home but warned against a "rush to the exits" that could endanger America's interests. "It makes me more determined to make sure that we're getting our troops home”.
If he would have kept his words then there wouldn't be any Quran burning, no pissing on the dead and no more killings of innocent peoples in Afghanistan tree years ago, then democrats had the majority and it was them who were the government not the warmongers, it was democrats who would have done and governed and solved the US domestic problems, it would have been the democrats who would have said to AIPAC to close your store because you are selling nothing but wars. Here the Afghan people need to wait another 2 or more years, depending how big the lie is this time and other matters that could change this man mind, or if he wins the election by being honest and many other issues like Oil companies, the Wall Street and others want to have his policies to be continued and ETC. here the Afghani people need to put up with US and EU terrorizing them day and night for another 2 years if this man going to keep his promise. Having said that, it sound like reelection promises as if Gingrich is a virgin when it come to politics, or for that matter Senator L. Graham is going to church every sunday to prey for Afghani people and for war to end.