A report today is claiming that the Obama Administration is in secret talks with the Israeli government to figure out exactly what would constitute a good excuse for launching an attack on Iran.
The talks came after Defense Secretary Leon Panetta made comments suggesting that attacking Iran is something that the US and Israel “would regret,” apparently causing many top Israeli officials to react furiously and for Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren to file an official complaint with the Obama Administration.
Panetta followed up the speech with much more hawkish ones, apparently aimed at publicly placating Israel, but behind the scenes the administration has been seeking to clarify what exactly counts as a “red line” that would give the US and Israel the excuse to launch an attack.
Officially, of course, both sides would insist such an attack was about Iran’s nuclear program. But since both nations have been claiming Iran is within striking distance of acquiring nuclear weapons since the mid-1980s, the excuse isn’t going to really fly internationally, so both nations are hoping to settle on something which could be the “trigger” for the attack.
There is nothing the US/Israel can say that the whole world will not dismiss as BS.
They blew their credibility with the Iraq-has-WMD fiasco, and America is tired of waging pointless war in the ME.
Could it be that Israel will have to do this one alone? Not so long as AIPAC owns Congress.
Ron Paul vs. the Neocons: http://tinyurl.com/ronpaulvsneocons
Neocon Warmongers: http://tinyurl.com/neoconwarmongers
You should be aware that Ron Paul is a Zionist ass kisser who approves and encourages an attack against Iran, for whatever that may be worth to you.
"Ron Paul tells Haaretz: I am not an anti-Semite"
U.S. presidential hopeful opposes foreign aid and believes that American support for Israel was a main cause of 9/11 terror attacks – but gives a 'green light' to an Israeli attack on Iran.
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/ron-pau…
He has made himself clear over and over that it's none of our business and he is correct.
I see. There's goes the lefty blinkers back on. If it were someone y'all don't like, all hell would be breaking lose over that. But I understand, you're entitled to your hypocrisy, lies and delusions just like your brothers on the right.
Um most people here are paleo-cons and Libertarians
That would explain the ignorance and racism.
Really? Is that so? In that case then, Ha'aretz and his aids are lying then:
Ron Paul and Israel
By Leon Hadar http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2011/…
[…]
I had the opportunity to serve as one of Paul’s foreign-policy advisers during the presidential campaign of 2008 and recall the 76-year-old former physician and Christian Baptist who has been representing the 22nd district from Texas in Congress since 1979 as someone with deep knowledge of Jewish history and an admirer of Israel who follows with great interest the political and economic developments there.
[…]
Hence, that Paul regards Israel as “our close friend” is not inconsistent with his opposition to providing aid to Israel or resisting a war with Iran. Paul has stressed that when it comes to pursuing its own national interests vis-a-vis Iran or the Palestinians, Washington should not “dictate how Israel runs her affairs,” Paul stressed.
[…]
Ron Paul tells Haaretz: I am not an anti-Semite
U.S. presidential hopeful opposes foreign aid and believes that American support for Israel was a main cause of 9/11 terror attacks – but gives a 'green light' to an Israeli attack on Iran.
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/ron-pau…
[…]
Responding to questions submitted before the most recent flap about anti-Semitic and racist content in his newsletters, Paul reiterated his controversial positions that American support for Israel was one of the reasons for the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and stuck by his opposition to any and all foreign aid. But he said that he viewed Israel as “one of our most important friends in the world” and that he supports Israel right to attack Iran in self-defense.
“I do not believe we should be Israel’s master but, rather, her friend. We should not be dictating her policies and announcing her negotiating positions before talks with her neighbors have even begun.”
[…]
What an innovative argument for an AIPAC troll to use, charging that Paul is a Zionist Ass kisser.
Are you referring to yourself? And, btw, troll, I suggest you buy yourself a potent pair of reading glasses (Dollar Tree, $1). Or, in the alternative, go back to elementary school and learn how to read. Either way, you seem to have a serious problem and a mouth twice…ney, three times bigger than your brains.
Psst…psst…lookie over here, idiot. And, hey, don't you go committing suicide over this or anything…he he he
Ron Paul tells Haaretz: I am not an anti-Semite
U.S. presidential hopeful opposes foreign aid and believes that American support for Israel was a main cause of 9/11 terror attacks – but gives a 'green light' to an Israeli attack on Iran.
http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/ron-pau…
[…]
Responding to questions submitted before the most recent flap about anti-Semitic and racist content in his newsletters, Paul reiterated his controversial positions that American support for Israel was one of the reasons for the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and stuck by his opposition to any and all foreign aid. But he said that he viewed Israel as “one of our most important friends in the world” and that he supports Israel right to attack Iran in self-defense.
“I do not believe we should be Israel’s master but, rather, her friend. We should not be dictating her policies and announcing her negotiating positions before talks with her neighbors have even begun.”
[…]
Oh, heavens, and another one. Gasp! What will you do now, troll? Any chance that you'll shoot yourself? Shall we dare hope? 🙂
Ron Paul and Israel
By Leon Hadar
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/blog/2011/…
[…]
I had the opportunity to serve as one of Paul’s foreign-policy advisers during the presidential campaign of 2008 and recall the 76-year-old former physician and Christian Baptist who has been representing the 22nd district from Texas in Congress since 1979 as someone with deep knowledge of Jewish history and an admirer of Israel who follows with great interest the political and economic developments there.
[…]
Hence, that Paul regards Israel as “our close friend” is not inconsistent with his opposition to providing aid to Israel or resisting a war with Iran. Paul has stressed that when it comes to pursuing its own national interests vis-a-vis Iran or the Palestinians, Washington should not “dictate how Israel runs her affairs,” Paul stressed.
[…]
Now, please allow me to thank you for the chance to show you for the ignorant jackass that you are. Not that it's hard when one is dealing with Neanderthals such as yourself that can't even read straight. But, hey, YOU put yourself in that position, not me. I only helped you a bit to make a jackass outta yourself.
Muuuuu haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa
Hmmmm…the guy is an "admirer of Israel" and considers them "our best friend in the world" but, hey, other than that, he's not a Zionist or a Christo-Zionist. Talk about an ass kisser…ha ha ha! Vote for the guy and, if he takes over, *YOU* will be the one kissing their ass and licking your lips when you're done. ROFL! Ignorance and fanaticism can make a mind blind indeed.
There is nothing the US/Israel can say that the whole world will not dismiss as BS and the US public doesn't want another war for the spoiled brats of Israel.
Only and truth "axis of evil" on planet Earth US and Israel wraped in colonial ideology, instructed by warprofiters and warmongers plane "Happy New Year 2012". With absence of "basic human principals" they will please "Banksters" of the World with their "evil dream" to build NWO – simply: Reality and slavery of "Palestine occupayed territories" plan to be expanded to "World occupayed territories" …. George Orwell 1984….Basic moral principals destroyed, sick propaganda daily repeated by their controled media, false religious leaders instructing desprate population….before people awake to remove Satanic Head of "Criminals running this world" lot of horrors of war and destruction may have to happened….grim picture for humanity ahead.
well since Iran is ruled by the new Hitler i'd say start a war when Iran invades Poland or france…
I wonder what is wrong with the american public heads
actually, if you want to use "invasions" as your criteria, then i think the arrow of hitlerism is pointing directly at US
There is an inversely proportional relationship between a nation's ability to defend itself and the Empire's willingness to attack it. There is a directly proportional relationship between a nation's resources and the Empire's willingness to attack it. It has long ago been decided that such nations cannot be allowed to gain the ability to defend themselves against the Empire because they have extremely valuable resources. What's happening now is the politicians are trying to come up with a plan that their Bankster Masters will accept and cut the check for. The media spews propaganda day and night to demonize, dehumanize, and indict the target so that when they do finally get the green light, the public will be goosestepping to beat of the war drums, baying for the blood of their brethren in poverty.
That pesky Panetta…always running his mouth, dropping little "truths" all over the place, exposing for the world, what the world already knows but Israel wants to deny – like they're trying to convince themselves that it wouldn't regret attacking Iran. When is the USG going to tire of these machinations from the Israeli government and toss them overboard as useless, but very dangerous baggage?
It's only been about a week since Panetta said something that must have been handed to him by AIPAC; that Iran could build a nuke within a year if they had a secret location to build it. The Generals pulled him back from his manic-depressive phase. The Generals have to get involved
to call out the politicians on this scheme. They stopped Cheney at least twice when he tried to precipitate war against Iran. The questions needs asked; How many of the people who are doing this plotting are the Zionists at State and other locations who are doing Israels bidding. The Isareli Ambassador needs top be given a swift boot out of the US.
Israel since its creation by the UN has greatly benefited from a process named 'the ROAD TO PEACE' by being the only state of its size/population to be rewarded with $116 billion dollars from the American taxpayer.
Why would they now jeopardize this dollar relationship by attacking any one?
fyi, israel has received over 150 billion from us over the last 10 years ago. the reason you dont hear about it is because it is not in official federal budgets. Also, they receive close to 20 billion a year from the private sector (donations from private individuals and corporations) for various purposes including the building of settlements. Starbucks for instance, sends various "groups" in israel money who then funnel it to building jewish settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem. Every latte you buy is in effect responsible for a small bit of ethnic cleansing
Israel since its creation by the UN has greatly benefited from a process named 'the ROAD TO PEACE' by being the only state of its size/population to be rewarded with $116 billion dollars from the American taxpayer.
Why would Israel ruin such a beneficial modus operandi now?
Israel trying to drag us into another war in the Middle East. We’re already close in Syria, and that’s not a bad war necessarily because of the civilian protesters being killed daily by the Syrian military.
But war with Iran has many bad possibilities. Like oil disruption to Europe and Asia with rising world prices in a time of global recession and economic chaos because of mining of the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz, like missiles raining down on oil tankers there or the U.S. fleet trying to protect that oil. Oh, in the end we could defeat Iran, but at a cost we cannot afford inlives and treasure.Plus we would further erode our ststus in the Middle East and the world, plus China and Russia have significant interests in Iran and would be most unhappy. You remember nuclear-armed China and Russia do you not? And do you think China will finance a war with Iran? Time to tell Israel they’re on their own and mean it.
Shhh…don't mention around here that Assad is killing civilians. You have to pretend that it's all a lie because the this, the that or the other, left, right, middle, up or down organization is making the report. You're also supposed to say that all those protests are phony and the people are being paid by the CIA. Finally, you're supposed to praise Assad as a hero and a liberator of souls. Otherwise, the lefties will pound the living life out of you in the name of their latest hero.
it's none of our business.
Exactly! Stay out! Not just out of Syria but Libya, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela and every other country with a dictator y'all worship. All of it! Let the peoples of the world charter their own destiny without any intervention from you or your government. Make that your New Year's resolution and by gawd, stick to it!
I smell a detect a sayan provocateur in the woodpile.
Go Away AIPAC troll–If the only reason to attack Syria is because they are killing protesters would then certainly allow China/Russia to attack the US since we routinely slaughter people in our wars for democracy.
The Jews want war, but one that they will participate behind the scenes rather than the head-on collision. The land of the free will once again provide the cannon fodder"!
i have to disagree with you here…
Real jews, the followers of moses and believers of the 10 commandments do not seek war, land or tribute. The people who want war are racists and fascists.. full stop. they may call themselves jews but are no such thing. Similarly, the wahabi terrorists who rule Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain and other countries are not muslims. they are a disgrace to islam. Muslims do not covet or preach the destruction of other muslims the way the saudis do of iran and iranians
Iran or Syria? Which will go first? Any wagers?
What did "ambassador" urin complain about? That uncle Leon is an anti-semite for criticizing israeli semi-secret plans regarding Iran? Is it now a crime to say anything but glowing things in a sentence that has the word "israel" in it?
THREE KISSING COUSINS
Israel ruling elite — Egyptian generals — and the Muslim Brotherhood — they are all of the same High Society, the same Country Club-class and a blue blood rich nobility that often intermarry and so love to mutually gratify each other endlessly.
For Western nations and their client states, to maximize wealth and stability for investments, the rich maintain a two class society where the 50% most aggressive and wealthy are allowed to hoard all the wealth, where the laboring class lower half endure an optimum 8% unemployment level and young laboring men are kept from rebellion by a minimum wage always and forever just above starvation.
So, nothing will the Muslim Brotherhood change as they love things just the way they are. And so, keep your eye on the blood and guts being spilt in the main streets of Egypt, for it is a state-of-the-art class war that the lower half just might possibly win.
I wonder what percentage of the world's people want more war? 5%? 10%?
How come we the majority are allowing the warmongers to control out world? Why do we put up with it? Why don't we get rid of the crazies who are destroying our world bit by bit?
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
Easy answer David….. It's the Goering thing… Of course a farmer doesn't want a war….. "All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." Plus the war makers have lots of money to grease the skids…. buy political support……
Yup, the Media tells us that Iran is building a mushroom cloud and are a bunch of fanatics who hate freedom and then we're scared not to attack them. War appears to be the only safe bet in that case. Peace is likened to suicide and who would want to commit suicide?
DICTATORS — ARE THEY VICTIMS?
Jim Evans
“Both Palestinians and Israelis are victims of
a war between western capitalism and Islam.”
Old problem is, the voting majority in Israel, the 51% most aggressive and wealthy, they know the indigenous natives of Palestine have owned all the land for over two thousand years, and they know how they would feel if a dictator plundered land from them the way it is being plundered from Palestine. Therefore, all blood guilt is on their heads.
New problem is, the voting majority 51% most wealthy of Israel keep electing war-hawk politicians who gratify their dictator mentality, who always vote in a way that best enslaves the lower half of society and that means all blood guilt is on their heads.
PEACE — AN END TO ALL HARM
sparrow “Israel has offered Palestine… peace a dozen or more times.. I like them and pray for them too but they must learn to want peace.”
So, sparrow do we understand you correctly, if a man raped your wife each and every day for 63 years, held a gun to your head while he each and every day for 63 years continued to rape your wife, you would learn to want peace with him?
Problem is, thousands upon thousands of Palestine men have had their wives butchered by Zionists — and to this day such legalized murders feel not the slightest guilt.
Mercy is, before it happens we forgive those who do criminal harm to us, but impossible is it to want peace with our enslavers until an end comes to the harm and an all out effort is made to undue the damage done
Let it be WW3. The universe will be a peaceful place, without the Human race.