Congress has reliably defeated efforts to end the Afghan War on the back of strong support from a number of Representatives who have never seen a war they didn’t like. Today’s highly anticipated vote was assumed to be a defeat before it began, but turned out extremely close.
Indeed, though the amendment was defeated, it lost only 204-215, and carried more than 90% of the sitting Democratic representatives. With the bipartisan bill also carrying a number of freshmen Republicans’ support, a couple of shifts here or there could have actually swung the vote the other way, and left President Obama’s ambition to keep the war going beyond 2014 in an awful mess.
The amendment would’ve called on the administration to begin wrapping up the war and negotiating a settlement that would allow for a pullout. A much more aggressive version sponsored by Rep. Chaffetz (R – UT) was also voted on, falling 123-294.
The Chaffetz Amendment was far more ambitious and would’ve required a full withdrawal of all US forces from Afghanistan within 60 days. The closer amendment, sponsored by Jim McGovern (D – MA) did not set any explicit dates.
The loss is still surely a disappointment, but when one considers that the 2010 vote on materially the same amendment got only 138 yes votes, there is no doubt which side the momentum is on. It also means the 2012 vote, and surely there will be one, will not be presumed to be a “slam dunk” for the administration going in.
The combination of the two votes also shows that the antiwar sentiment is surprisingly deep. The Chaffetz amendment still managed to carry a solid majority of President Obama’s own party, and the McGovern amendment came within a hair’s breadth of passing.
Polls have long showed the American publicly squarely against the already decade-long war. Today’s vote suggests that while Congress has still not caught up with public opinion, they are coming around slowly but surely. Assuming that the war continues to grow less popular throughout the year, both amendments can probably count on picking up additional support among representatives ahead of the 2012 election.
Not only that, but the votes show Republican opposition growing largely on the basis of incoming freshmen. This suggests that while the “old-hand” politicians can be stubbornly reluctant to abandon an unpopular conflict they voted for at one point, as they get filtered out this lingering support eventually crumbles. Despite administration claims to the contrary, public opposition can eventually end America’s wars.
No cigar, but soon.
Funny, a vote like this- ostensibly to enable peace to break out once again- is made by the very same people who bowed and scraped (can you say "yassuh, massa Bibi"?) over Netanyahu a few days ago when his message was clear: NO peace. (Someone should do a split-screen of a Stalin speech, Hitler speech, and Netanyahu speech in the US – chances are, you won't see much difference.)
In any case, I find it very ironic that those who are so much for peace are at the same time so pro-Israel – the two viewpoints are diametrically opposed. I guess campaign contributions can make anything easy to swallow, yes? Who would have thought we'd have a Congress with no gag reflex?
yea, i still have trouble wrapping my head around him being introduced as "his excellency"
Let's say they had passed it. Does anyone else think the president would have just ignored them?
yes, because as instituted by Bush the 2nd, Obama is Emperor of the world and he certainly knows better than us
Seriously, I think its to the point where congress has abdicated it's power for so long that the executive branch and the bureacracy can just ignore it and do whatever they want anyway.
If people think Obama's Afghan War is bad, wait until they find out the truth about his war on Libya.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/662/062/Obamas_War…
8 more USA soldiers bit the dust in Afghanistan today.
Why does anyone look for principle or even logic in the deliberations of our Congress. They are hyenas. Filthy animals with disgusting appetites. Of course, they are pro-Israel; they are also pro-corruption, pro-war, and on the side of the most greedy, selfish, and cruel Establishment this country has seen since The Boss Tweed era.
As happy as I am about more support for leaving Afganistan I wonder if it will lead to a war with Syria or Iran and possiby both.I'M also very woried about another fauls flag attack that I hope don't fool the American civilians to support a war on lies like Afganistan and Iraq.All Americans that have spent the time to study 9/11 now it's an Inside job just like 7/7 in Britan.America don't be folled into another war because you are greving.I'm far from a fortune teller or prophet buy given the track recored I would be prepared for the worse.Being attact by Israel knowing and I belive just as responsible for 9/11 as America in the planing.They have leart from the blunders that prove to any iteligent person 9/11 and 7/7 where inside jobs.So expect it almost even though smart people may have more trouble gaining proff they were inside jobs.So sad innocent people can not trust the government there taxes pay there at least legal part of the job at least the part that seems legal.PLEASE DON'T BE TRICKED LIKE BEFORE.
Well, Obama finally got the bipartisanship he's always wanted–but like a true hypocrite and warmonger, he'll just ignore it.
Why did we think US would leave Afghanistan?? LOL
Much easier to keep an eye on Russia and China from the Eurasian landmass – all the more rapidly they can meddle in other nation's business when the need arises. They can't be guaranteed that a stable Afghan gov't. can be trusted to do its bidding.
Plus what are they gonna do with those hundreds of bases? The airfields? The Afghans have an Air Force now? Shepherds and goat herders would live in those bases I bet, plus they can race their goats on the runway.
The only way the US leaves is if China Russia Pakistan get together and blast them out, at great cost to themselves.
"Defeat" being the operative word. As there were any doubts. The war machine is powerful indeed and it must continue grinding no matter what.
This vote is really great news. It won't be too much longer or cost too many more deaths before a majority of those in the Congress will begin to reflect and respond to the will of the people who elected them..People can help this effort by emailing their individual congressmen and senators asking them to support withdrawl as soon as possible. The military would have us there for another 10 years, while 'making progress' each year. Military is programmed to 'win' a military conflict regardless of the cost in dollars and lives. Time for Americans to question the Mission in Afpak and get the US out.