Speaking Monday evening from Fort McNair, President Barack Obama sought to champion the “historic” US war in Libya to the American public. One day after Secretary of Defense Robert Gates informed Americans that the war was not a “vital interest,” President Obama was insisting that it also wasn’t in America’s interest to not attack Libya.
He sought simultaneously to mock those who rejected the war as expensive and unnecessary, insisting that not attacking Libya would be a “betrayal of who we are,” while trying to position his role as the moderate one. The message is that the Obama Administration is attacking Libya just a little bit, instead of the massive war a handful of senators advocate.
At the same time, he appeared quite proud of the speed with which he started this war, comparing it to the “full year” it took for the Clinton Administration to start the Bosnia war.
More important, perhaps, was what wasn’t addressed: the possibility of the war ending. With officials now openly talking the mission up as lasting months, President Obama never suggested anything resembling a timetable, insisting that there would be a “transition to the future” and that the international community would impose a strong government after the Gadhafi regime was ousted.
Even this wasn’t necessarily a military goal, however, as the president insisted the US would “keep the pressure on Gadhafi” and that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was planning to meet with rebels on Tuesday, but giving the indication that the war, like his other wars, would be an open-ended one.
It is only through murder and war that America can achieve Sartori
Emperor Urkel – Who we are: We are broke. We are supposed to be a constitutional Republic and not an Empire. Historic: Emperor Napoleon at Waterloo, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, Implosion of the Soviet Union. With all his expensive speechwriters, this is the best he can come up with?
Obama and his "entourage" are one twisted band of f***ks! There…. it needs to be said.
Obama: "insisting that not attacking Libya would be a “betrayal of who we are,” while trying to position his role as the moderate one"…, Mr. President.., please do tell who we are.., a government at war in three different part of this world.., killing people in three different country as we speak.., a militarism regime stationed around the world waiting for opportunity to start another war, a nation which is brook due to its government neglect and wars that’s been consuming peoples income.., there are more poor people now then ten years ago in US.., there are more homeless people now then last 2 years ago in USA Mr. President.., please do tell.., yet you are talking about “betrayal of who we are”.., there is no doubt that you and presidents before you have betrayed its own people by saying the same thing as you have.., by doing the same thing as you have.., promising empty words since you took office.., betraying your own people by starting another war.., Mr. President you know what all these wars are about and who you protect and who will support you later.., you know it very well.., you are from the Chicago gang of five aren’t you.., if you are then you know.
The Saudis, Kuwaitis, Arab Emirates and Bahraini Kingdome family lost a dear friend Hosni Mubarak.., they have done good job hiring Hillary Kilnton, Sussan Rice, Power and Obama to find them another country where Islamic Brotherhood is not band… Libya.
Where is your change obama! You are lair and pure evil, go to hell !!!!!!!!!
I will let Obama's alleged hero, Dr Martin Luther King, Jr, refute him:
"The ultimate weakness of violence
is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks
to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies
it. Through violence you may murder the liar, but you
cannot murder the lie, nor establish the truth.
Through violence you murder the hater, but you do not
murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases
hate…Returning violence for violence multiples
violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already
devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness;
only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out
hate: Only love can do that."
The man is a complete faked creation. Somebody in a spin laboratory probably found, that the voters would move the most from a candidate promising "Change you can believe in". Voila! A political conviction was born! If the spin lab had found "killings and bankruptcy" " he would have promised that – and with greatter truth!
Precisely.
Acturally, our last three Presidents all fit this description. Do you notice how its always unknown nobodies who suddenly vault to the highest levels? Bill Clinton was a young governor of Arkansas. Not exactly a traditional stepping stone to the Presidency. Dubya was the druken fool of a son of an ex-President, who suddenly was made governor of Texas. And Obama was an unknown state senator in IL when suddenly he was given the keynote speaking address at the DNC in 2004.
They promote unknown politicians precisely because they can create the fake personalities and candidates.
What you don't see anymore is national leaders who are known to the country who then make the last step to being President. That was the former path to being the top dog. Make a name and a reputation for yourself as a serious leader of the nation or a major state, then run for President.
But these days, anyone on that career path has long since sold out to money. And the public knows they are sold out to money. Everyone called Biden the Senator from MasterCard. Thus, he'd never get elected in an un-rigged election. So, since all the 'leaders' are already known as sellouts to the voters, they have to keep coming up with these unknown candidates around whom they can create a myth.
So, what's next, an ex-governor of Alaska that no one had ever heard of before, just like Obama, she was suddenly promoted to the national stage?
By what devinr right has Obama attacked Libya??
The "so- called "Rebels are permitted to attack Gadhafi Towns and Forces including civilians BUT
pro – Gadhafi forces are targetted by Obama and the NATO Terrorists.
Where is the justice here????
Mr. President, your drone attacks which murder 11 children gathering wood, 41 village elders having a peaceful meeting and God knows how many others are a betrayal of "Who we are." Your torture of PFC Manning is a betrayal of the Constitution you swore to defend with your life and a betrayal of "Who we are." Your refusal to prosecute Bush era conspirators who violated all four Nuremberg counts is a betrayal of "Who we are." The Founding Fathers warned against "foreign entanglements" and we always believed that they, Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Adams and the others were the essence of "Who we are." You have forgotten just "Who we are" haven't you?
I listened last night and heard many fancy words and phrasings but, ya know, I didn't hear anything close to justification. And I heard absolutely nothing close to explaining how we are going to pay for this new adventure. Saying that, well, NATO now owns this and they own the costs…Hey dumshit, WE are NATO – mostly. Whose planes and weapons do you think they are going to use – especially if some of the members opt to sit this one out.
Dazzled by bullshit. NOT!!!
They only worry about how they will pay for something when the something is something that would benefit ordinary Americans.
We have met the enemy and it is indeed US!
Barack Hussein Obama is a pathological LIAR – a man who does NOT have a clue – he needs to resign and return to Kenya.
War – endless war – and America is headed to oblivion.
The evil that we do in the world will eventually be returned to US!
Why would a President resign because they are a liar? It didn't stop Dubya from serving his terms.
You can organize to impeach him.
You can organize to defeat him.
But, please don't expect him just to resign and quit because you don't like what he's doing. He's doing exactly what he was paid to do. And frankly, he's doing pretty much what could be predicted from facts known before the election.
Which is why as an anti-war voter, I did not vote for Obama in 2008. I didn't vote for any Democrats (or Republicans) in 2008. And I have no intention of voting for Obama, or any other Democrats that are likely to be on my ballot in 2012. Of course, as an anti-war voter, voting Republican would just be stupid.
Why do the cowards and TRAITORS, crooks and thieves, idiots and morons in the Congress allow this moron of a President to wage aggressive war which makes Barack Hussein Obama a war criminal – why does the Congress not impeach him and remove him from office?
Obviously, 'Democracy' has been so corrupted in America that is NO longer works!
Because this is exactly what they were elected to do.
Today's Congress is controlled by money. They do what the money wants. This is the natural result of citizens voting for the candidates with money.
When you see a candidate with money, and they are most recognizeable as the candidates you see on tv, then you know the candidate will serve the people who gave them that money when elected. If you didn't give them the money, then don't expect them to be honest or to do what you want. They will serve the money that got them elected and that they believe will get them re-elected.
Stop voting for candidates with money. If you want an honest Congress, then start grassroots campaigns of people from your own communities. You sure can't trust the candidate with millions of corporate dollars. But you can maybe, just maybe, trust the guy or gal from your neighborhood around whom you organize to work to get them elected.
An honest Congress will come from you. If you just vote for the candidate who someone else picked and put on the tv and gave millions of dollars, then you get cowards, traitors, crooks and thieves.
I kid you not, reading the minutes of the president's scedule. The next thing President Obama did, (someone here said he will start a war, and then come in say like the TV character Eurkel, 'Did I do that?' (and that is exactly kinda what he did)) was go to a DNC (Democratic National Committee ) FUND RAISING event. Its right in the news.
He is telling us bullshit because its omissions and half truths. I am trying to tell people, the budget is bad, really bad, and they struggled to get cuts in Congress then poof just start 'this thing'. 🙁
Well certainly there is an "historic betrayal of who we are." The US has/is become the 'go-to nation' for international crimes against humanity. International law, US Constitutional law, and basic human decency are gone the way of that proverbial red tennis shoe.
"Who we are" just might be the nation of international terrorism. I am of course speaking of these United States. I would inject that, there's not so much 'unity' as there once was. The US is the nation of illegal rendition, detention, TORTURE, and illegal wars of naked aggression. President Slapnut seems "proud" that he ginned up the Libyan war faster than President Bubba could gin up the Balkan War. Hmmm, seems like it was directly after Bubba ginned up the Bosnian slaughter our massively egoist President Bubba went all cigar-crazy on young Ms. Monica. Yeah I said it.
Obama is simply another puppet and fraud. And now, he's a genuine war criminal and genocidal lunatic and dang, will Amerika ever get over that accursed infatuation with mindless slaughter…
He sought simultaneously to mock those who rejected the war as expensive and unnecessary, insisting that not attacking Libya would be a “betrayal of who we are,”
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He knows history well, terror and genocides have been American tradition since arrival to the continent. He continues well established tradition.
With all of his thunderous chanting of "NATO, NATO" we all know that behind that shiny curtain, the Wizard of Ob is just another spinmeister duping the masses. There is of course no "NATO." This is just another page in the fake "Coalition" nomenclature used so successfully by the Bushes. Pretend that some other group is actually running your war.
On the other hand, one more undeclared offensive war and the Wizard of DC will receive his special Bonus Nobel Peace Prize…
To all Americans …. please study history.
They can only tell such blatant lies, such as Obama claiming that this is 'who we are'.
America is the nation that viewed standing armies as the greatest threat to liberty.
America is the nation that doesn't go abroad in search of monsters to slay.
This is the historic America. America's fouding fathers must be turning their moldy bones in their graves when they hear an American president claim that sending our massive standing army to go attack Libya for no apparent reason whatsoever (other than a long-standing motive to get Ghaddafi).
If Americans start to re-learn their history, they'll become immune to this sort of bs. But, today's Americans who can't tell you who's buried in Grant's Tomb are suckers for any stupidity that the President chooses to say.
Want to know 'who we are?" Read the Rolling Stone article linked on the front page of Antiwar.com as 'the kill team'.
We are a band of murderous thugs.
We are a street gang that wants the first kill to earn their patch.
We are killers
We are torturers
We are the evil empire
1- According to McAuley World :-
Who are these "Rebels" that the US Air Force is providing cover for … who are these Rebels that we are helping win this Civil War in Libya
(Search the names for yourself … while the US Press will not mention their names, who they are is no secret)
The Libyan Fighting Group (LIFG) also known as Al-Jama’a al-Islamiyyah al-Muqatilah bi-Libya is the most powerful radical faction waging Jihad in Libya against Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi's regime. Shortly after the 9-11 attacks, LIFG was banned worldwide (as an affiliate of al-Qaeda) by the UN 1267 Committee.
LIFG was founded in the fall of 1995 by Libyans who had fought against Soviet forces in Afghanistan. It aims to establish an Islamic state in Libya and views the current regime as oppressive, corrupt and anti-Muslim (which is what makes it corrupt and oppressive to the rebels), according to the Canadian Security Intelligence Service. LIFG claimed responsibility for a failed assassination attempt against Gaddafi in February 1996.
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2- Fierce clashes between [Qadhafi's] security forces and Islamist guerrillas erupted in Benghazi in September 1995, leaving dozens killed on both sides. After weeks of intense fighting, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) formally declared its existence in a communiqué calling Qadhafi’s government “an apostate regime that has blasphemed against the faith of God Almighty” and declaring its overthrow to be “the foremost duty after faith in God.” This and future LIFG communiqués were issued by Libyan Afghans who had been granted political asylum in Britain….
– Emerged in 1995 among Libyans who had fought against Soviet forces in Afghanistan, the organization declared the government of Libyan leader Muammar Qadhafi un-Islamic and pledged to overthrow it. Some members maintain a strictly anti-Qadhafi focus and organize against Libyan government interests, but others are aligned with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda organization or are active in the international mujahidin network.
3- As recently as February 2004, then-Director of Central Intelligence George Tenet testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that “one of the most immediate threats [to U.S. security] is from smaller international Sunni extremist groups that have benefited from al-Qaida links. They include … the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group.”
Derna is famous as the home of a large number of suicide bombers in Iraq. It is also deeply hostile to Gaddafi. “Residents of eastern Libya in general, and Derna in particular, view the Gaddadfa (Gaddafi’s tribe) as uneducated, uncouth interlopers from an inconsequential part of the country who have ‘stolen’ the right to rule in Libya,” US diplomats were told in 2008, in a cable since released by WikiLeaks.
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4- The last 110 members of the LIFG were freed on 16 February, the day after the Libyan uprising began (the 1995 uprising not the 2011 uprising). One of those released, Abdulwahab Mohammed Kayed, is the brother of Abu Yahya Al Libi, one of al Qaida’s top propagandists. Koumi fled Libya and is said to have ended up in Afghanistan working for Bin Laden. Captured in Pakistan, he was handed over to the US and sent to Guantánamo Bay in 2002. In 2009 he was sent back to Libya….
Also Search:
Armed Islamic Group of Algeria
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5- Al Qaeda in the Maghreb (Libya) and the Safist Group for Preaching and Fighting:
Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links (searchable headline)
In an interview with the Italian newspaper Il Sole 24 Ore, Mr al-Hasidi admitted that he had recruited "around 25" men from the Derna area in eastern Libya to fight against coalition troops in Iraq. Some of them, he said, are "today are on the front lines in Adjabiya". Mr al-Hasidi insisted his fighters "are patriots and good Muslims, not terrorists," but added that the "members of al-Qaeda are also good Muslims and are fighting against the invader.