President Obama plans a Monday evening address with an increasingly common goal, to sell the American public on an increasingly unpopular war. But while those previous speeches were about the decade-long Afghan War, the Monday speech will be about the new war in Libya.
Just over a week after it began, President Obama’s newest war is facing growing questions, particularly about the lack of debate before it started and the lack of any concrete end-game strategy. Officials conceded on the Sunday talk show circuit that the war could last “months.”
And even months might be a generous assessment, with officials reluctant to define any goals or exit conditions. The no-fly zone is, to quote Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, open-ended. That means this war, like the others the Obama Administration is fighting, has no real ending planned out.
President Obama’s effort to sell the American public on support for a third major war will be complicated by admissions from top officials that the new war isn’t even a vital American interest in their eyes.
The speech will set the stage not just for a battle for public opinion about the war, but for Congressional hearings into the war, which was announced shortly after Congress went into recess, and was never debated.
1- Obama you use the word Success regarding Libyan war: There is no such thing as “success” in any wars.., depending on how you personally defining the word “success”.., however there is.., if you count devastation, bombing a country to ground.., occupation and murdering people.., if this is your definition of “Success”.., then you are correct, you have succeeded to have a war under your name.., Bill Clinton with Balkan wars and George W. Bush with Iraq war.., with your allies this time you have succeeded to start another war in Libya.., if this was your “success mission” convincing the Noble peace academy to grant your doctrine a “peace” Nobel price.., I think they have a moral, social and political obligation to demand for you to return the medal.., if they don’t then they are not worthy in being called “Peace” in anything.
2- Let me ask you this question.., what is different between your doctrine and George W. Bush and his cabinet of warmongers.., or lets ask you this.., now that you have proven that there is no such thing as functioning democracy but a militarism regime working to create wars.., why wouldn’t you dismantle the “Democratic” party all together.., after all you as the chairman of the party certainly don’t act as a democrat nor is your cabinet and others within the “Democratic” party.., so do as Gorbachev did with communist party in USSR and let people truly decide what is democracy and what is not.., perhaps then we the people would have a peace and not war policies hanging on our door each and every time people vote for a true change and look what they got this time.., it took two years for your doctrine to become what it really is and was.., another war.., another bombing of a country.., another classic devastation made possible by USA -NATO and if this war succeeds then there is another Islamic dictatorial regime been created by you.
3- US and EU policies is a falsified democracy since the Balkan wars if not before.., and you know it.., so as Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Power.., you just repeating what Bill Clinton started in Balkan and George W. Bush in Middle East.., this time it was on you to start another war in Africa.., this war is not about a freedom of a nation nor is about a democracy but it is about and for the Saudis Kingdome, Kuwaitis, Arab Emirates, Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is operating in Libya as we speak.., which been proven that they are cooperating with Libyan “rebels – Muslims Brotherhood” ., if you really and truly care Obama you need to end all US wars as you promised.., until then good luck convincing people around the world that US and EU policies has changed.., or for that matter anything has changed. In regard to Libya.., if no one else would.., I am sure that BP and all other Oil and Gas company executives and share holders would thank you very much not only for staring another war but for helping another Islamic regime to establish itself in Libya.
When Iraq illegally invaded Iran and killed 700,000 not only did the US not care, but it provided lethal aid to Saddam in the form of chemical weapons.
Now Gadaffi kills a few thousand rebels and the US and NATO claim Libya must be invaded and Gaddafi stopped. This is the type of hypocrisy and lawlessness the American people are subject to each day by our elites.
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Bush thought he was the "War President"….Obama is the Real Thing.
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The people around Obama who were supposed to be advising him really, really messed up this time. There is no way that this war/humanitarian adventure is going to pass the smell test with the American people. From what I've read Clinton very strongly pressed Obama, who I understand was not necessarily leaning toward intervention. Now, being the inveterate conspiracy theorist that I am, I personally can see Clinton knifing Obama in the back, so to speak. In these times where the clarion call for fiscal responsibility is everywhere, justifying this new adventure is a no-go.
Sorry to say, but Obama IS the President of the United States and the buck stops with him. If he is so weak and spineless to just go with the flow to war — irregardless of its legality, its need, its cost — then maybe we need to get him out of the White House. Trying to put the blame on his advisors, especially Clinton, is ridiculous. Remember, he chose to surround himself with warmongers. And he is supposed to be a smart guy who knows Constitutional law, but seems to have forgotten it in more areas than one.
An Iraqi said years ago: "Same sh*t, different Saddam." I would like to rephrase it as: "Same sh*t, different Bush." The big "change" we were promised is just not going to happen.
I voted for Obama since McCain seemed even worse (will we ever have a real choice rather than the lesser of two evils?). My insignificant other (ISO) wrote in Ron Paul's name. Now, when I get upset and angry at what Obama is doing, he not-so-gently reminds me that I voted for guy — and that he didn't. Oh, how choices we made come back to haunt us …
I hope it didn't appear that I was trying to absolve Obama from the ultimate responsibility for the decision. I wanted to point out that his "advisers" clearly have an agenda that obviously does not lineup with what those who voted for him seem to have been expecting (hoping) to see. Optimism after Dubya was rampant and I expect that the backlash from those whose hopes have been crushed by reality to be brutal, regardless of the choices that may be available. A 3rd party candidate might likely do very well this time around. I, too, voted for Mr. Paul and will most likely do so again given the chance.
The best act that Obama could take is to announce his resignation on TV tonight.
I'm still a little fuzzy on exactly when this went from being the enforcement of a No-fly Zone to being a War.
Did I sleep through a Libyan attack on Pearl Harbor or something? Did they sink one of our ships on the high seas? I'm still trying to figure out how Libya is in any way an existential threat to the United States. Are we that weak and hollow that Gadhafi's forces are an honest-to-goodness threat to us? If so, why aren't we clamoring for the heads of the military and elected officials who let us get in such a sad state?