Tensions in the West Bank are on the rise after the Netanyahu government announced it is meeting an attack on a family of settlers in Itamar with a new round of retaliatory settlement expansions further into occupied territory.
“They murder and we build,” insisted Netanyahu at a national television broadcast from the funeral. The announcement sparked condemnation from both the Palestinian Authority and the United States, which termed the expansion “illegitimate” and insisted it ran counter to the goal of a peace deal.
But the peace deal, realistically, has been dead for months, and the far-right government in Israel seems more interested in pledges that will satisfy its settler-heavy voting base than moves that might resurrect the process.
To that end, Interior Minister and Shas head Eli Yishai tried to outdo the revenge settlement announcement by proposing that the government set up an official policy of 1,000 new settlement houses for every person killed in the West Bank. Fellow Shas member Housing Minister Ariel Atlas embraced the call, adding that the killings were a great opportunity to “change the ratio and build in Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria.”
Regardless of what one thinks of the settlements, it's noteworthy that most international media outlets (including this website) either downplayed or outright ignored the savage butchering of the family, until the story became about the building of even more settlements in "revenge".
Who cares about those kids? It's much more gratifying and profitable to run a story that further stokes anti-Israel sentiment. This is indisputable, whatever one thinks of the settlements.
What do you think sparks revenge violence? bulldozing of homes? collective murder of entire families ( Caste Lead ) illegal settlments? as horrible as the crime against that family is, your hypocrisy is most telling about the entire situation. Blinders to the truth only reveal top down ignorance.
I haven't read your outrage at the savagery of the IDF against the Palestinians either.
Once again, an Israel-basher pops up with no counter-argument whatsoever. Only a desire to change the subject.
What came first- the Israeli dispossession of the Palestinians or Palestinian anger at being dispossessed? Unfortunately, the cycle of violence has shown no signs of slowing down and in all likelihood will intensify when the Palestinians get the nerve to take on the IDF again, this time for keeps. While tragic, this murderous incident is a drop in the bucket compared to what's going on all over that violence-torn region.
As for the plan to build "1,000 homes for each Israeli killed"- that sounds suspiciously like the reprisals of WW2 by the SS Einsatzgruppen. I guess the Israelis learn from the best? How much longer will it take for that to morph into 1,000 Palestinians for each Israeli killed? Not long, I imagine.
Collective punishment?
Since Bernie Madoff was Jewish—can we extract "vengeance" on
innocent Jews? My gut tells me that is downright wrong—but but
but…
Talk about making a move right out of Hitler's playbook…
Google is your friend: Lidice.
A false flag by any other name is still a false flag. After the backlash they received when the US vetoed the UN resolution condemning illegal settlements, they caught to the fact that even Uncle Sam can't protect their murderous, land thieving asses anymore. So what better way to justify illegal settlements than to stage the murder of their own people. After all, they got all the practice they needed on 9/11.
Watch now how many of those fake Ukranian jews who are paid $4,000 to squatter on Palestinian land get murdered now and until whatever little is left of Palestine is gone. At that point tough, they're gonna have quite the mess in their hands. Ha ha! Although I feel truly sorry for the Palestinians, that may be the only way in which they regain their autonomy and their land.
I can't believe the depths of intellectual depravity to which the anti-Israel crowd has the capacity to sink. Only the lowest of the dregs would claim that this inhuman butchery was a staged operation. I suppose Samir Kuntar is innocent too, right? Just another false flag? Anything that's a little too brutal for your liking must be false flag just coz you want it to be.
It simply doesn't compute in the minds of the bottom-dwelling dregs that Israel does indeed have enemies willing to plunge such depths, to creep into someone's home and slit the throats and stab the hearts of children and babies while they sleep. No, this savagery must be denied at all costs, and the victims themselves be blamed. That's the party line, right "dissenter"?
That is right, this depravity is only surpassed by the Isreal leadership and their supporters.
whose payroll are you on? Israel's? AIPAC's? how much do you get paid to write this drivel?
Wow, a 9/11 truther, Haven't seen one of you clowns in over a year.
Must be an interesting existence living in a world where there are no pissed off Muslims, just neo-cons and Jews blowing things up to make Islam look bad.
Buildings fall over from isolated fires all the time. Peer review tells us that they get sad when their older brothers fall over and decide to turn to dust all support columns in a sequence that perfectly resembles a controlled demolition, ensuring that the suicide-by-collapse is homogeneous, at the speed of gravity and neatly into the footprint.
what doesn't compute is that the myriad videocams that surveilled the Fogels' home did not show an intruder. That suggests someone knew how to work around the cams. That suggests an insider.
On the most basic level, there is no evidence to show WHO killed the Fogels; all that is known for certain is that they are dead. The presumption that Palestinians killed Jews is equally as plausible as that some other Jew killed the Fogels, or that the Israeli government, which has carried out false flags in the past, killed Fogels.
Five people killed mafia style; all with throats are slit while asleep?
Now you tell me that a Palestinian went through an electronic fence
And pull this kind of job, impossible, I say it's an inside job for sure.
Israel needs "living space" – correct?
Isn't that what 'BibI' is saying?
And the difference between Hitler and Bibi is what?
Any attack on civilians is despicable – like the white phosphorus attack on Gaza two years ago – and the Zionist-supervised murder at the Lebanese refugee camps . . . and on and on.
An occupier must kill to the last man.
Ask Sheridan and Sherman and all the heroic Indian butchers after the American civil war.
Seems as though the Zionist monstrocity will again cry anti-semitism, and thus embark on another propaganda war against Arabs, and Muslims. The problem for Israel is that no one belives their lies, and deceit anymore. Vacate all illegal settlments, send the Zionists back to their homelands, and burn the settlements to the ground. END OF PROBLEM!
The Jerusalem Post is now reporting claims that a resident Thai worker has been arrested for the murders. Seems he resented that Fogel considered him a slave that did not need to be paid his wages.
In addition to stealing land these racist 'settlers' often abuse foreign workers. This is part and parcel of their theory that non Jews exist only to serve Jews.
The logic of Israelis: Jew steals from A. A avenges the crime. Therefore, Jew is entitled steal from B.
This works for the Thai same as it to justify taking Arab land as recompense for Hitler. As a maater of fact everything justifies stealing land from Arabs, or anyone else. Just ask Bernie Madoff.
Link to Jpost article:
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=2…
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Sooooooo…. it actually has nothing to do with a Palestinian after all? So what will the Israeli punishment for Thailand be, since they can't very well pin this on an Arab?
And we have a pretty clear case of cause and effect- Jew didn't want to pay his employee and considered him to be a slave. Employee exacts his revenge, albeit excessively. Kick a dog enough times and sooner or later he'll turn on you and bite.
anti-semitism is a reaction to somthing….
here's a comment from a thread on the subject at The Washington Note, Steve Clemons.
The poster is a reliable long term poster with credibility on the specific region/area.
Posted by jdledell, Mar 14 2011, 5:33PM – Link
My nephew just called and said that Udi Fogel had a big argument over back pay with one of Itamar's numerous Thai workers and that the IDF has arrested just about every Thai in the vicinity. The rumor, unsubstantiated, is that the Thai worker killed the Fogels out of anger. Stay tuned.
Here's the post from which the comment is excerpted.
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2011/03…
This needs to be pursed, I would guess, by those who know how to do these things. Needless to say, since Israel has based increasingly retributive policy on the assumption of Palestinian perpetrator, they ain't gonna do it.
Should have read the above posts before commenting about the
Thai connection. Oh well, as long as the work gets done.
Sorry for the redundancy.
When it comes to Middle East and North African countries and countries in South America and beyond everyone in what is industrials countries are guilty of atrocity toward its own and here named nations, from Vietnam war to South America where Hennery Kissinger was involved .., to Balkan war where Madeline Albright, Richard Holbrook and Bill Clinton.., to Iraq where Tony Blair, Dick Cheney, George Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearl and others started their wars for industrialized empire to go beyond the Persian emporia and become the killing machines in middle east proving that this is it, this is the world mightiest army deciding who is wrong and who is right.., judging that is always Arabs whom are at fault and therefore the mighty army is there to help them rebuild their country.., the might without mercy have done the same in Africa from Congo to South Africa where white supremacy from Holland, English, US and even Sweden been involved proving to the mankind that this is the way to maintain the western democracy and this the only way that western democracy knows how.., using and abusing the word meaning nothing to the system kings, prime ministers, queens and bankers.
2- Generally and in terms of politically correct speaking, democracy is belongs to western civilization for people in other countries to learn from, otherwise they are in their country or as a guest worker in a democratic country only to be used and abused by such democracy; therefore, such falsified democracy never been an issue to be considered for any other countries but west., what has been the issue is the western industry and its productions needing what has been a cheap labor or a market with commodity that’s been produced by “other” countries marked as “3rd world“.., oil, gas, rubber, gold, diamonds, and everything else in between that west needs and would have use for.
3- Now in 2011 people in Middle East and North African countries as well as what is by west been called and marked as “3rd world” have reached the point demanding the same democracy as west has been enjoying for over 100 years.., this is not about any democracy or a puppet regime as Hamid Karzi in Afghanistan or Iraqi government or what is called the Islamic regimes in Iran.., but rather a demand in being freed from these regimes, a freedom that would bring jobs and prosperity to their families, a freedom that would guarantee their future, a freedom where they don’t have to live the rules of mercenaries occupying their land, a freedom where they have to say when its needs to be said, a freedom where they demand their social needs to be considered as peoples demands and not a foreign companies or a military regimes stationed at their doors and in their bedrooms monitoring there freedom.
4- US is as guilty as Europe is, so is China as it is them whom helps the emperor wars in Middle East and Africa by providing the financial support for US in one hand and helping the Islamic regimes to grow and be used for their interests. Israel been guilty from day one with its Zionism idea saying that Palestine first and now world is belongs to them therefore they are influencing US government for using its “mighty army“ where people like Paul Wolfowitz or John Negroponte and others would benefit from wars..,
5- in the other hand Israel always been a apparatus used by US and EU to confront Arab nations when they were and are demanding for their freedom, here the nations have lost many life yet the atrocity by the west has been ignored by what is called western laws in democracy. The last such killings was conduct by US and EU in Iraq and its continuing in Afghanistan.., and before that in Balkans by Bill Clinton whom day and night was talking about democracy fooling its own people by rhetoric. So what is left , or let say what is left of the western democracy.., in reality nothing, the western democracy as capitalism is bankrupt, yet for democracy to help itself it still can help democracy in middle east and north Africa to flourish and help democracy to grow around the world.., that’s what the west civilization can do and need to do.
5- Last thoughts, Japan have almost lost its industrials power., for now.., due to earthquake followed by tsunami,, this catastrophe is the work of nature in rage.., it cannot be continued to be abused nor it can be predicted or stopped.., democracy in the other hand is a man made and is in the nature of mankind to create such or better ideas for mankind to live, at the same time is also a fact that mankind can destroy yet to rebuild; therefore, is a decision needs to be taken now by western democrats and democracy to help democracy to grow or be crushed and silenced by peoples voice, here you cannot kill them all where the voice of people is being heard from Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Iran, Bahrain or Saudi Arabia because you need them all.., although to Zionism and some others that would be the ideal in destroying what mankind have achieved thus far, yet I wonder what would happen if such earthquake would hit USA and what would then “professional” politicians think to do..,
6- would they rebuild the union of people or just rebuild for those whom they know. In the other hand it is time for democracy to hear the peoples voice and this time for real and let go of those whom are for wars, close the doors on those whom only thing they have said or done is wars after wars.., here any wars are against mankind, the militarism regimes are the tools and killing machines destroying the mankind.
7- The only language that Israel will ever understand is for people to boycott its goods and for governments of EU and US to ignore its demand, then and only then Israel will obey the international law.
It's all about anger anyway. The truncated 'peace' process spawned anger, which spawned the killings of a settler family, which spawned more anger that resulted in revenge settlements, which will spawn more anger…. such has it been when a wandering shepherd called Abram from Ur, followed 'divine guidance' into the land of the Canaanites.
The place has never been 'happy' since and no end of the saga in sight.