Some six months into the “McChrystal Plan” the US had dramatically increased its military presence in Afghanistan and President Obama has claimed they are making “undeniable” progress. To Gen. McChrystal though, the war is still “a draw.”
And even McChrystal’s claims of a draw are questionable, based on his insistence that the Taliban’s momentum has been stopped. This is not well supported by recent data, however, which has shown a rising death toll, rising numbers of Taliban IED attacks, and ever increasing numbers of civilian killings.
And the June invasion of Kandahar, supposedly the primary military goal for 2010, is the subject of growing doubts among US military commanders, failed efforts to “rebrand” the effort with the hokey title the “Cooperation for Kandahar,” and increased concerns about the readiness for the Karzai government to assert itself in the city.
US strategies in Afghanistan have had a history of falling apart a few short months after being sold to the American public as a cure-all, and perhaps predictably the McChrystal Plan too is starting to go off the rails, a victim of its own unrealistic promises to turn around the war in short order.
I doubt the Nobel peace prize winner will settle for or want his name associated with a Draw.
If it's a draw, we're losing. With superior numbers, arms, intelligence and communications we can't defeat a rag-tag group of "terrorists" or insurgents or "radical Islamists", or whatever we call them , then we are losing, big-time. Two dozen or so militants attack NY City and we start two wars, spend over a trillion dollars, lose 5,000 + young men & women, and nobody's winning? Whatever happened to the world's only superpower? What a farce war is.
McChrystal says "draw?" That's it? Judas H. Priest! So what is America doing in Afghaniscam? The "best" can be managed is a 'draw'. After nine years? Why didn't General Genius just say "quagmired" and be absolutely straight up for once in his smarmy existence. Remember back when things seemed really bad and we had George Bush as the pres? Man, are we a long ways further down the sink hole under Obama Caesar.
Well, Obama may be watching old fight films and doing a innovative LBJ pirouette (Iraq) followed by a RMN arabesque (Afghanistan)
Johnson's was the simpler move–just turn around and send American boys to fight Vietnamese boys' wars.
Nixon's dance was much more complex: invade and bomb Cambodia to protect the lives of American boys (they are always boys) in Vietnam while they were about to be withdrawn in a losing war after he makes a face-saving treaty with the North Vietnamese who were supplying the Communist forces in the South on the so-called Ho Chi Minh Trail which was not one trail and did not respect national borders and which ran through Cambodia only thirty miles from Saigon so that he could make a treaty with the North Vietnamese to withdraw from Vietnam and visit China and not get impeached and prepare the ground for the US and China later turning a blind eye to Pol Pot murdering millions in Cambodia while Prince Sihanouk saxophoned in Beijing and the US could protest when the Vietnamese (now independent) invaded Cambodia and put an end to the Khmer Rouge massacres so that China could invade Vietnam.
Whew.
When Obama gets through with that last step , Karzai's head will be spinning, you can bet on it.
Then Obama dumps Biden, selects Michael Jordan as VP, and runs against Romney Petraeus.
Romney and Petraeus promise to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan if the Pakistanis and Iranians abandon their countries and move to the Congo so that the Israelis can built settlements there.and Osama Bin Ladin can be flushed out of hiding.
Obama and Jordan will promise "Change."
And this somehow surprises you. The purpose of war is not to be won but to simply exist.
Only when it exists can it generate profits and create debt. Untold billions in profits,
who cares if we win. They'll be plenty of opportunity to fabricate new wars for one
fake reason or another and plenty of fools gullible enough to buy the hoax and fight
in them. Chew on that for a bit…….
no its been a draw for the past 8 years becuase we can keep sinking wealth in to the war, it will be an unmitigated defeat as they are finally routed out like the soviets
Thucydides, who has more understanding of this war in Afghanistan dead, than McChrystal or Petraeus alive, would report the casualties of the war so far in the following mode:
summer winter
summer winter
summer winter
summer winter
summer winter
summer winter
summer winter
summer….
Notice, if one were to report the Russians in Afghanistan in the same mode, it would begin:
winter summer….
Is that one of the reasons many Afghans are saying the Russians were much tougher?
Jason Ditz why don't you report the eight US soldiers killed in Helmand province in just the last week? Your site dutifully reported today the night raid in Kunduz that allegedly killed twenty five insurgents. In a few days the truth of another civilian massacre will come out. Why is there a near blackout of US combat deaths at Antiwar?
Ok, lets say anti-war reports the 8 deaths. Now what? Or better yet, so what? Everyone who reads this site knows soldiers are dying in wars. Soldiers dying in war is all part of the plan and nobody is going to fret over the plan working. If you think the majority reads this site or better yet is going to loose sleep over 8 more soldiers after 8 years of war then you are hoping for something that probably won't be attainable.
Because the corporate media hides these casualties and only reports night time raids that kill scores of "militants". Two days later it turns out scores of civilians were killed. Meanwhile real battles like the one going on in Helmand province where the US is loosing eight soldiers in one week are ignored. If Antiwar would report the escalating US combat deaths they could become the source to refer to for the truth about what is really going on in Afghanistan. And many more people would track this site.
Not that many more people would track this site, I venture to say
Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Afghanistan
is called "The graveyard of empires" for a reason. Enough said..
The address for daily US combat casualties is .defense.gov/releases/
Kahndahar will be big news this summer. Helmand is happening now.
The MSM or corporate media seemed much more interested in American KIA's when Bush was in the WH. (and they weren't really all that interested then either) Not so much so with the Nobel peace prize winner in the WH.
A draw! So, no time to gather up the chips and go home – real players play until the last drop of blood and a new row of decorations.
A draw?
How old is this guy?
Cus he sounds like he’s about 12.
Americans don’t lose wars – they either win them or it’s a draw.
How pathetic.
America doesn't fight wars to win, they fight them to make bankers and defense contractors richer. Vietnam was the same BS and after that America said 'never again.' But the dumb suckers fell for it again. All these 'fighting for our freedom' clowns make me want to puke.
Sorry I made a mistake in negatively flagging your comment
Right, Americans like to talk tough but as soon as they bloodied they wimp out.
Wimp out? Don't you mean "hide out", while the grown-ups clean up their mess? Sadly, the US has run out of grown-ups in positions of power. Time for Americans to put together their own personal little exit strategy. (Step one: get the hell out of dollar-denominated assets. Buy tangibles, like say, gold. Step two: buy a little plot of good-gardening land far far away.)
Good luck.
Hey General…that doesn’t sound too encouraging for the greatest military machine in the world to be in a draw with a bunch of rag-tag guys with flip-flops and AK-47s. Maybe we should have just paid for the pipeline the first time around. On a brighter note, you do have the poppy fields under control. The grunts are already showing signs of addiction. Way to go. I can speak with autority on this. I got experience first hand with the same stuff in VIETNAM. It was everywhere…and it didn’t evn grow there. At least you have the drones to fly the stuff around the world. I wouldn’t want to be in your head when the wheels come off.
What Sophocles said some 2000 years ago is just as true today: "It is the merit of a general to impart good news and to conceal the truth."
And the 'truth' is that the Afghan War is a quagmire in which there will never be any 'victory' – whatever victory is suppose to be since NO one has ever defined what winning that war is?
….. now….. why not just declare victory and then piss off home…. after all there are lots of other things Americans have declared that weren't really true…… In fact everything they've declared in the last ten years hasn't really been true…. has it?
Can't piss off home…even if it would save one life. Once Bush Co started this nightmare, the US economy has been locked into the production of war…without the war, our economy won't function correctly (or incorrectly), quit the war, and you might as well layoff 40% of US jobs related to the fabric that's woven into our lives supporting the Carlyle Group. That's the first thing the Pentagon brief illuminated to our cooped new leader. Want to know what's really true? Pray for War!
A really sick Catch 22.