“The population is the prize,” US Brigadier-General Larry Nicholson said today of the invasion of the farming community of Marjah. But if that prize is to be claimed through the oft-spoken of “clear and hold” strategy,
But while officials from the White House on down insist the offensive is “going well,” and the forces on the ground say that all of their primary targets have been seized, it seems premature to declare victory.
“Every market in mined, every shop is mined,” Major General Nick Carter noted, and as snipers and rocket teams continue to emerge to launch attacks, officials emphasize that the town’s Taliban are “far from defeated.”
The clear and hold strategy seems to be the order of the day for NATO, but trying to install a government in a region that hasn’t had one in years, and “primary targets” are of questionable value when the militants have had nearly a decade to integrate themselves into the population. As difficult as “hold” looks to be for Afghanistan’s iffy police force, the ability to clear the area in the first place seems an enormous challenge.
"…the ability to clear the area in the first place seems an enormous challenge."
If you don't just bring in the air force and artillery and level the place, which leaves nothing to "hold" except maybe your dick in one hand and a basket of body parts in the other.
So here's the deal: blow up the locals; lose their "hearts and minds"; lose the war. Or let the marines fight house to house against and entrenched, immensely skillled, highly mobile, and thoroughly committed adversary (who live there, and so have no place else to go); lose bunches of US soldiers along with domestic support for the war, and thus lose the war.
"They made it a wasteland and called it peace" – Tacitus
And exactly why are we fighting the Taliban? Wasn't the phony 'war on terror' suppose to be about fighting al-Qaeda?
"The enemy attacks, we withdraw; the enemy withdraws, we attack" – Sun Tsu author of 'The Art of War'.
As a Southern Confederate troop was asked in 1862 why was he fighting when he did NOT own any slaves, he answered: "Because you're here invading my land."
Will we just NEVER learn?
The Marines, who will soon realize they cannot "WIN" in Marjah, have set themselves up for demoralization.
Yaa Hubris 101… We are there to protect "The People" but from whom are we protectin then..??
We older commenters have seen all this stuff before.. "We are there to protect the people from the enemy"….. but who IS the enemy..? and HOW does one tell the enemy from the people..?? Do the "people" have beards..?? Yes, and the enemy..?? Ahh yaa they have them too.. If the people "need to be protected", do they have guns..?? OOoo, yes the people need guns… for all the reasons that they need "protection"…… Think about this crazy bullshit… Ask yourself, suppose the Afgans invaded YOUR neighborhood to protect you from the hustlers, dealers and the nasty police always givvin you those tickets, searchin your wheels and just generally being bastards…. Do you think you would friendly up to the Afghan invaders to off the police..?? The answer is NOT if you wanna live where you are now.. Cause, when the invaders go…. its PAYBACK TIME….and it's not likely you would be able to walk away from the payback you would be receiving…. You would be LUCKY if you ever walked again.
Whether its suburbia or the ghetto, siding with the foreign invader is probably a death sentence, in Afghanistan or here. Remember the Boat People in Vietnam….. Why do you think they were boating..?? It was to get away and not get their payback… Yaa, no one seems to ask what if THEY invaded here..?? Would you be on their side..??
You know what, "I realy am geting too old for this."__How many years has the American military gotten away with the needless slaughtering of peoples? Has it been since the early 1960's a total of almost 10 million humans, that either we killed directly or funded the killings of?__Oh I know we can go back to even before this nations foundings and until those 1960's and find tens of millions more, but how long does it take before someone says enough is enough?__All the peoples killed have come from from the worlds poorest, those without a military to defend it or one in which its military asked our help in the killings.
When you invade another mans house, kill some of its occupants, for no more than an ongoing military campaign whose only reason for existence is to be the sole military power in the world, then we have become a nation of murderers.
I am just too old to listen to the lies of National or its populaces greatness anymore.