Late Wednesday evening, a US RQ-4A surveillance drone was shot down by
Iran, and crashed into the Strait of Hormuz. Why it was shot down, and
what it was doing at the time, have been the subject of substantial
debate.
US officials have presented the surveillance drone as minding its own
business in the tiny gap between Iranian and Omani airspace. The
Iranians, however, say the US drone had entered their territory when it was shot down.
It wasn’t just that a surveillance drone from a hostile nation entered
their airspace, though surely Iran would be unhappy about that in and of
itself. The Revolutionary Guards reported that the drone turned off its ID transponder, violating aviation rules, and generally a universal international signal that a flying vehicle is up to something untoward.
The Pentagon only offered a very basic map of the region
claiming that the flight path never crossed into Iranian airspace. This
is hardly conclusive though, since all it amounts to is a yellow line
on a stock map.
The US Navy complained that the drone cost $110 million, though
realistically it ought to have known that bringing it even close to
Iranian airspace would be putting it in serious jeopardy, given mounting
tensions and talk of a US attack.
Mmmm, believe a foreign government I dont really understand ? Or mine that I do….
Just remember that the US has form in lying about such things. USS Vincennes for a start that was in Iranian waters when it shot down an Iranian Domestic Jetliner when it had several hundred civilians on board. Said the airliner was not in a commercial jet route and that it was travelling above the speed of sound. It was on a commercial route and airliners don’t go above Mach one!. Other US ships in the convoy determined it was a Jetliner and did not engage. Worse still the US gave the Captain a bloody medal for murder! Do I trust Iran ….not at all, but I trust the US even less.
Then Old Man Bush as VP said America will never apologize for killing those Iranians.
Dave, pull you head out once in a while and breath.
Easy choice. And I think that is what you meant.
Of course. We would think the choice was easy based on record.
I’m assuming (hoping) your comment was intended in jest. Otherwise…
Is understanding believing? eg. Gulf of Tonkin, Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Duoma gas attacks… not to mention the all-to-familiar state department narratives we recently heard coming from Venezuela during our Administration’s failed military coup in that state. The only thing we can believe from our government concerning foreign policy is that its modus operandi is to “lie, cheat and steal,” just ask Mike Pompeo.
So far the Iranians appear to have been truthful in this matter. They claimed the shootdown, and it looks like initially the Pentagon denied it. Now both sides agree on that. Next point of discussion is where was the darn thing and what was it doing. I expect both sides might have some evidence to present. Don’t the Russian radar systems have a log? No need to go off shooting just yet.
Russian radar (one of them) stationed in Azerbaijan controls area that includes Indian Ocean. There will be plenty of other records. Also, Iran calling to warn of drone course demanding correction. Turning off transponder. Many records to set straight. .
Iran had warned the US several times before firing the missile, but the US didn’t respond.
Iran went on to file a complaint with the United Nations, accusing the US of provocation
Iranian Broadcaster Showcases Alleged Photos of Downed US Drone’s Debris
https://sputniknews.com/world/201906211076004578-iranian-broadcaster-showcases-alleged-photos-of-downed-us-drones-debris/
In other words, it was a deliberate provocation enticing Iran to shoot it down so that Trump could be forced into a “retaliatory strike” which then would start the Iran war that *all* his advisers are telling him needs to happen.
I suspect Trump got cold feet at the last moment – since Iran is not Syria – and also I suspect Israel told him not to do it because it can’t afford the Iran war until Hezbollah is taken out. He may also have gotten push back from the Pentagon – even some cautionary statements from them might have set him on edge, since he has no clue what he’s doing.
In any event, we clearly see that the US is prepared to start a war with Iran by overt or covert means. So it doesn’t matter what Trump “wants” – since clearly he can be led by the nose right up to starting it.
This is a replay of Obama’s actions in August, 2013, when he almost launched a war against Syria, but pulled back at the last moment.
Likely told him, “if you do this, you won’t be able to golf this weekend” Personally, I wish he would just spend the rest of his term cheating on the golf course.
Iran refrained from targeting US plane with 35 on board flying beside downed drone.
Brigadier General Hajizadeh told state TV that the main reason for shooting down the drone, which marked a serious escalation in tensions with the US, was to force the American P-8 military aircraft to divert course, according to Iranian media.
Hajizadeh also claims that there were some 35 personnel on board the US P-8, though he did not cite a source for this figure. In addition, he alleges that the US military was warned twice of an impending strike against the aircraft if they did not change course.
“Twice we… sent warnings,” Hajizadeh said, as cited by AFP.
https://www.rt.com/news/462387-iran-refrained-shooting-us-plane/
These are not the drones you are looking for. So says Mr. Stewart.
They resisted the temptation to swear they thought it was an F-14.
$110 million for one drone. We have our priorities in the right place. Our infrastructure crumbles but we have top notch spy drones.
It’s beyond sad. A few years ago the NRO gave NASA some old retired spy satellites that they could retask for science. The satellites were far more advanced than anything NASA had and were too costly for them to refit and put back into orbit.
This shootdown helps the MIC, lose one, order 2 more. Cost plus. Plus we probably need to treat the trauma of the poor innocent drone operator.
Yeah. We’ll find that drone operator at a backyard barbecue having cocktails with the rest of the “heroes” savings us from a country that has no capacity to do any harm to the American public.
Politicians ( puppets ) real purpose is not to serve the people….but to serve the elite and their corporations.
Channel ( steal ) much needed infrastructure money to the elite and their corporations.
$110 million for the drone? More proof the US taxpayers are really getting ripped off by the MIC.
How terrible for Iran to shoot down an unarmed US spy drone at , near or over Iran’s air space. Almost as egregious as doing something like shooting down an civilian aircraft on a regularly scheduled flight.
Nah. The US would never make such a mistake, right?