According to Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), Saturday morning’s false alarm in Hawaii, during which the government issued an emergency alert claiming a ballistic missile inbound, and didn’t withdraw the warning for 38 minutes, underscores the need for the US to seek diplomatic solutions “immediately” and without precondition with North Korea.
While officials maintain that the ballistic missile warning was a “wrong button,” it only caused the amount of panic it did because it was such a credible possibility, amid months of saber-rattling with North Korea. Such false alarms could easily lead to an accidental war, and with North Korea that would be one with nuclear dimensions.
Rep. Gabbard, a long advocate of diplomacy, says leaving such threats unresolved is an “epic failure of leadership,” and that America’s history of wars of regime change is why North Korea feels the need to have nuclear armed missiles as a deterrent.
US officials have at times suggested diplomacy as a possibility, but President Trump has generally downplayed it, and as Gabbard put it, set “unrealistic preconditions” which have kept such talks from ever happening.
South Korea and North Korea have since held talks, and the Russian government has indicated that North Korea is interested in talks with the US involving Russia as a mediator. The Trump Administration has insisted North Korea must unilaterally disarm before they’ll consider such talks.
But disarming without resolving the threat of a US attack is seen as a non-option for North Korea, which means no talks. As Gabbard points out, that isn’t a path to solving the situation, but rather an excuse not to try, meaning the threat continues, awaiting more false alarms or worse, a real war.
The alert was no ‘mistake’- I have a sneaky feeling it was planned in order to see how the public would react. But what happens next time when it’s a real alert and no one pays attention to it?
Even if its a real ‘alert’ what could the 1 mil people on Hawaii do? Swim off the island?
Which one of the islands? All of them?
Go down into the crater of a inactive volcano…???
Tulsi Gabbard is what I consider an elected representative/legislator should be. She sure out shines the majority of the politicians in the news.
Tulsi is probably planning on running for president .She is always saying what I think needs to be said . She has constantly been on the right side of every issue according to my mind . She went and talked to Assad , She would talk to Kim . Of course Obama and Trump were very sensible too before they were elected .
Unfortunately, we have learned, all too well, that what politicians say and what they do are two different things. No one can ascend to that seat of power without being co-opted by the deep state/politically corrupt system. If we could fix the system, we might have a chance at decent leadership, until then? Nothing will change. This lesson has been shown repeatedly whether democrats or republicans hold that office.
Agree. You saw the “sh*tstorm” during the campaign from Dems and Repubs, when Trump asked if it wasn’t better to talk to Russia and to fight terrorism together.
There’s something legit to your analysis, but what we’re seeing these days should tell us that who is in charge does make a notable difference, which could be the difference between surviving to another president and not.
‘Tis a pity she’s a genocidal Hindu nationalist.
‘Tis a pity there are genocidal nationalists associated with every religion throughout history.
‘Tis a comfort they all don’t have their hands on levers of State power… Unfortunately, she’s one that does.
A sexy one at that.
That’s not lipstick – it’s blood.
Tulsi Gabbard’s a native Hawaiian, not a genocidal Hindu nationalist; you’re mistaking this peacemaker to the banshee US Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley.
Her Wikipedia page says she is Samoan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard
Being born there, doesn’t make you indigenous. She’s Indo-Irish, and there nothing wrong with that – but she pals around with Modi – the Bibi of India.
Trust me, I heard it from an actual practicing Hindu.
Indian Hindus LOVE Modi, fool.
Like the krauts LOVED Hitler.
Actual Hindus that do revere life are not on board with the paleo-Aryans.
Don’t get me started on Nikki Hell.. Never do that!
You Sir are a Friggin low information….idiot. Nice to see you here BUT please keep somewhat up to Speed on whoz whoi, ,& such
Hey, I wanted to like her and did when she first made the scene. Some of her associations do call for scrutiny and reproach. Hopefully, with maturity will come wisdom. She’s not there yet.
Yeah, Obama sold out in a month, Trump in a week… But I still support Trump in his rare moments of doing what he advocated as a candidate…. I’m happy he won, but not so much with his seemingly Clintonesque policy on so many things…. Bring Back Bannon…!!! I don’ t like ALL his ideas, but I like him better than H. Clinton and President Trump, though I loved CANDIDATE Trump… Get Bannon back on the team!!!!! Then I can love the whole Trump Team et al..
Nuclear failure combined with electromagnetic energy weapons a disgrace!!! Fascist imperial toilet inbreed of polio pederasts necrophiliacs (us eu un)
I’d like to see this button. It can’t be unpushed?
Is someone going to lose their job over this?
Well, whoever pressed the wrong button has already been reassigned to another position, wherein he won’t be near it.
I’m going to disagree with Tulsi on this. At this point, the US should just stay the hell out of the way and let the Koreans talk. Not because talks wouldn’t be good. But because of who would be in charge of US policy. The orange nutjob.
And I completely disagree with Jason as well, though I’ve seen the idea repeatedly. Hawaiians running around with their hair on fire will not cause an accidental war. They were panicked, scared and freaking out but they had no access to weapons of war. The Hawaiian civil defense alert did not fool NORAD. The personnel there knew the skies were clear.
More than likely it was a planned, unannounced civil defense Drill.
Or, it could be exactly what they said. The guy just screwed up and didn’t switch to “test” before he pushed the button. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
I think you’re right. Why remedy hysteria with more hysteria ?
NORAD showed how well they operate on 9 eliven… When they were a no show, despite the trillions they spent… Their performance is one more reason why reckless aggression is not a good tool for solving problems. They can’ t be trusted to defend us from the air!!!!!
Don’t go away mad. Just go away. Lest I force Señor Knapp to ban me. He’d stomp on me with both feet if I talked about ya Momma.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F15thKUEECQ
A great singer/ songwriter died today. Only 46.
For my pacifist bro.
RIP Dolores O’Riordan
Zombie
the Cranberries
Another head hangs lowly
Child is slowly taken
And the violence, caused such silence
Who are we mistaken?
But you see, it’s not me
It’s not my family
In your head, in your head, they are fighting
With their tanks, and their bombs
And their bombs, and their guns
In your head, in your head they are crying
In your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
What’s in your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie, oh
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Du, du, du, du
Another mother’s breaking
Heart is taking over
When the violence causes silence
We must be mistaken
It’s the same old theme
Since nineteen-sixteen
In your head, in your head, they’re still fighting
With their tanks, and their bombs
And their bombs, and their guns
In your head, in your head, they are dying
In your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
What’s in your head, in your head
Zombie, zombie, zombie-ie-ie
Songwriters: Dolores Mary O’riordan
I done corrupted you, my Bay area leftist little snowflake bro. I made you post on an alt-right website. 👅
I was reading antiwar 20 years ago. Back when I was a man and you were still a kid. Back then I particularly liked Justin Raimondo. Because he was ahead of the field in using hyperlinks. Now he’s just a sad Orange Jesus Davidian remnant of a man.
Anyway, have some fun here. Eclectic bunch and weirder than snake suspenders. But damn bright. And peaceniks who prefer loving a child over killing a child. But I’m just an old softie.
You are leading me astray.
We have to work together to keep Arpee from going off road with that dirt bike mouth of his. Sometimes his indignation at current events releases his inner poet. Such language. A sailor would be embarrassed.
Don’t let him lead you astray. Matt. Be strong.
That is a beautiful song Matt. Sad when someone so young and with so much to say, dies. Sometimes they understand the world more than their hearts can take.
Matt is a bit of a leftist snowflake but he ain’t heavy. He’s my brother. What’s a nice girl like you doing posting on a website like this? 😉
I’m just looking in the door, to see what’s behind it. A casual peek. Nothing serious. Passing by and noticed a song and a friend in need of a hug. No big deal.
Curiosity killed the cat. I recently admired your curiosity. Something to consider, as long as you are here, read some of the articles. If you want. I promise they won’t hurt you. Or not. That’s freedom ain’t it?
Sure. Since I’ve been invited so politely. Bookmarking it now.
Use
http://www.antiwar.com
It’s complicated.
I never heard of her.
I’ll never forgive myself for missing that cultural jewel. But she’s right. They are crying and dying in my head. One good hit deserves another..
“All I know, she sang a little while and then flew on”.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe2u7ogAgtQ
The San Francisco sound. For Janis.
That’s great. Janis was great (maybe also a little grate-ing).
I’ll check out the Sandler clip too.
It wasn’t a recommendation. I’druther have genital warts than watch Adam Sandler. Fortunately I never had to make that choice. Janis was a Texas gal from just east of here. If you mean she wasn’t always at her best, I’ll agree. Especially towards the end. But that gal could wail.
Did I mention that you always want me on your trivia team? 🙂 Ron “Pigpen” McKernan, AKA Blue Ron, and Janis had a “thang” going for a while. And a noisy thang at that. People in the Grateful Dead house could hear their passion. Sadly both joined the 27 Club. 🙁
https://archive.org/details/gd1970-07-16.140310.sbd-partial.miller.sirmick.flac1644/gd1970-07-16t04.flac
You can skip to Turn On Your Lovelight. Her’s had less than 3 months to shine. I think the Euphoria Ballroom was in the Bay Area. I was just a kid and you were just a gleam in daddy’s eye.
I watched a documentary the other night on the Austin scene in the early ’60s, primarily because I’m a big 13th Floor Elevators fan. Apparently Janis started out hanging with the folkies at the university there. She was certainly a gem.
Better the wrong button than the red one.
One sensible person out of 535 elected members/Senators. I suppose it is a start.
What’s Rand Paul got to do with it?
Ron should have took Rand to the woodshed more often. The boy’s a total wuss.
Rand!… Your killing your Father!
Tulsi for President!
I’d agree with that, Mary; at least, Tulsi’s integrity’s well above that of either Sen. Elizabeth Warren or TV Host Oprah Winfrey. Neither of those two hatemongers are suitable for the presidency.
Sigh. If only. But tis not to be. The wars pigs won’t even allow her in the MSM. A year ago Tulsi was on the ground in Syria while DC prepared to worship Orange Jesus. I read her story here but the MSM never printed it. They only printed how awful the war pigs said she was.
FOX News is the worst. They trashed her tonight as putting all the blame for the false alarm on Trump. Talk about twisting things to suit their own warmongering purposes!
FOX News says Tulsi is blaming Trump for the false alarm. Liars! Watch her interview with George Stephanopolous on ABC Sunday. She gave an excellent response to George S. It was measured and firm, and it was the truth!
Whatever