The US has confirmed that in an incident Sunday evening, an American F/A-18E Super Hornet shot down a Syrian government Su-22 bomber south of Tabqa, accusing the Syrian jet of having dropped bombs on Kurdish fighters in the town of Ja’Din.
The US has been increasingly attacking pro-government forces in eastern Syria, but this is the first time that they’ve shot down a manned Syrian aircraft, and the fact that it happened within Syrian airspace is likely to dramatically add to the tensions between the two sides.
The Pentagon argued that because they are allied with the Kurds they were free to attack the Syrian plane under the concept of “collective self-defense,” and added that they “will not hesitate” to take further military action to defend the Kurds, or other partnered forces, from future threats.
The Syrian Army said their operation was part of an ongoing push into ISIS-held territory, and that they view the US attack as a “flagrant” attempt to undermine their anti-ISIS operations. They added that the pilot of the destroyed plane is still missing after the US attack.
I suppose holding out any hope, or conviction that the Trump
By the way, make sure you say what you mean, it is there for life, sadly. Trust me, I even emailed and asked how to get one removed. Did I see anywhere that it said I can delete or edit? NO! Meaning it is there, once said.
The Kurds are making inroads on Syrian territory, wanting to carve out their own piece of the pie. As such, they’re enemies of Syria, and Syria has every right to attack them. That we (allegedly) support the Kurds against ISIS is not a part of the equation, or shouldn’t be. Our attack on a Syrian warplane is unjustified and is technically an act of war.
Actually, there’s no technical about it. We have troops in their country too, I think that’s called an invasion.
What a proxy war this is, does not Russia have at least one red line?
I just hope the red line crossing stays “conventional”…..
For all the negative adjectives they slap on Putin, one thing he’s for sure–tolerant to a fault. Like a therapist dealing with an autistic bully, endlessly patient.
Not much of a dog fight. How about a rematch,
what say you Russia?
Careful what we wish for…!!!!!!!!
You already got it, sorry!
Careful what we hope for….. Especially if it’s not what we really want…
Congratulations to the US pilot, he just bought you WW3, John Ellis ready to die for the Israelite and freedom?
An interesting proposition. The DC establishment is used to getting away with murder on a daily basis. Not sure how they would react if actually someone gave them a good beating for a change. The problem is that with the anti-Russian media psychosis, it would be non-stop screaming for war against Russia. And then you’d find Congress suddenly doing it’s job and volunteering a declaration of war.
Wtf
Are we at war with Syria?
Our Empire is at war with anyone and any nation
that fails to support our hegemony and expansion.
PLUS!!!! Syria does not have a central bank, just like Korea, Iran, and Cuba. Russia’s Central Bank is under control of the Russians. Thus they are all enemies, one way or another, of the US.
Syria has had a central bank (the Central Bank of Syria) since 1953.
North Korea has had a central bank (the Central Bank of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) since 1947
Iran has had a central bank since 1960. It used to be the Central Bank of Iran, but was renamed the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran after their revolution.
Banco Central de Cuba is Cuba’s current central bank. It was created in 1997 to take over from Banco Nacional de Cuba.
We have always been at war with EastAsia. I mean, East Syria.
Yup, for a while now.
Without congressional permission so it seems 🙁 but of course with so much corruption out of our government, who is going to care other than us that are forced to pay for this governments illegal wars and terrorism around the world? Who is the biggest terrorist in the world? That would be the USA!
We don’t use that word anymore. Too many bad connotations.
I suppose it’s way, way, way past time when thinking people were still holding out ANY hope or conviction that the Trumpf administration of disorder will straighten up and govern right. Now that it appears that the Trumpf SNAFU team of BOY soldeirs is actually restocking the swamp & charging into IT. Along with every trap, quagmire & entanglement WHICH was Trump’s whole campaign “pitch”: That HE was wise to these engineered distractions, rip offs & scams… And therefor would eschew them and concentrate on America and America’s problems by restoring her vigor & vitality by directing our energies toward the betterment of these United States of America…
Instead, we find wallpaper realities as he secumbs to the Trumpfu effect. silently at first, and later with ever more numbers of big bangs we are held hostage to the very same demons that seem to have enslaved us since we became the lead victor of WWII…. One quagmire…. Korea was a no win, as Kim reminds us, if not DAILY, almost always weekly, is there Ever quiet there for the whole month…????? Meet the nu president, same as the old on foreign policy..
sure can’t argue with anything you said . I think I feel much the same as you .
This is not what any of us voted for, but we didn’t get what we voted for between Bush and Gore either, did we? TWICE in my lifetime now, the elections have been stolen by the powers that be. The people had no say in this election and until the money gets out of the elections there is no hope. America will not be standing in another 100 years. No empire can remain standing.
and you will reap the whirlwind.
If this is not a clear case of aggressive war, declared by the Nuremberg tribunal to be “the supreme international crime”, I don’t know what is. May the perpetrators in Washington DC burn in hell.
The same illegal aggressive war was used against Yugoslavia and Libya also . Maybe even Iraq and Ukraine too . I thought Trump promised to change course . But he presently is looking to follow in Obama’s and Bushes footsteps
Sadly true. The rulers want wars.
No they want our money to waste on CORRUPTION!
Sadly lots of people will burn on Earth before hell will get a chance.
I hate to see the U.S fighting on the side of the jihadists. Makes me sick.
United States has supported the terrorist pretty consistently since 1998 . Or should I say more often than not
Or even since 1980 when the USA supported or created the Taliban to fight Russia.
You need to keep educating yourself, it started long before this. I have been watching for 60 year and my other half has watched for almost 70, so we have seen quite a bit. Did you forget that Regan slept while Bush ran Iran Contra out of the VP’s office? That happened in the 80’s.
Just the opposite of what he led us to believe… Fool me once, shame on you!! Fool me twice, notta chance… !!!!!l. Don’ t get mad. Change Congress in 18!!!!
I don’t think Trump intentionally misled us. It’s just that the Pentagon/neocons/deep state are in control. The President is more or less a figurehead.
The Orange One said and did exactly what his campaign managers told him he needed to do to get elected – though I think that was his plan all along. To say he didn’t “intentionally” mislead us is giving him way too much credit. He just didn’t know how deep the rabbit hole goes.
I have a question for you, just being honest. How long have all your Senators and Representative been in power, I mean the same ones? Here is an article from 2015 that I found regarding what I am talking about, look down the list and see how many are still sitting there, how many of your own state are still there? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-18/79-members-congress-have-been-office-least-20-years This is why there is no change.
My Senator is great, I don’t want him out of office. What has Dianne Feinstein done for me? Not a damn thing, and I have been voting against her for over 12 years! But no, the money keeps her corruption in high gear. You can’t have any change with the same corrupt people in power.
Just another breach of international law by the Americans. This is so common now that no one in the USA seems to question the killing of people by their military, surrogates or allies. American support for Al-Qaeda (no longer defined as terrorists) in Syria is an astonishing situation with American missiles and guns freely flowing to these fanatical savages.
The Syrian are taking the war to Isis and the Americans are taking the war to Syria, I do pity Syria’s brave and patriotic military men and women caught in the middle of this mess.
A lot of people in the USA question unconstitutional interventions. The MSM does not point that out. Fact is the MAJORITY want it to end. Just like the majority want ALL foreign aid to end. So much for the lame excuse of “democracy”. But the USA was set up as a republic, not a democracy. The constitution was supposed to prevent the government from wars without a legislative process. Didn’t work. Most of the other checks and balances on government power failed using the excuse of democracy. So….either constitutional republic or democracy did not matter. The rulers rule. The population pays.
Russia almost has to respond. Any response by definition will be bad for the US. It is pure speculation at the moment just how they will do it.
Syrian plane bombing terrorists, America shoots down Syrian plane.
Enough said. The American people deserve any blow back they receive. Whether they are full blown war hawks or just plain dumb to see what their government is up to.
The “left” is silent as usual.
Excuse me, I am left and I am not sitting around. I am in the streets constantly. I am in constant contact with a Syrian friend that keeps us informed from his family in SYRIA that is having to deal with this.
There is no justification for it other than the US GREED and corruption. Blowback is a GREAT word, and would serve this country right 100%!
Read all about it from the Author, Chalmers Johnson. I could give a list of a few more to read, but it seems that Americans just don’t give a F**K anymore; and are willing to just pay for corruption, and keep sticking their tongues out for a few crumbs to feed them and their families.
Once again I can only try to educate, I can lead you to an education on the US, but I can only read it for myself, here is a link to the book. I HIGHLY recommend it:https://www.amazon.com/Blowback-Consequences-American-Empire-Project/dp/0805075593
You are a rare breed. I have read Blowback and Nemesis.
Doofus Donnnie Trump no better than Obama, Hillary or George W. Bush.
Why stop there? Go on back a ways to George Sr., who started all this in 89 when he started the invasion of Panama, before that look at Regan who allowed Bush and the CIA to run weapons to the Iran Contras out of the VP’s office, Jimmy Carter decided national security in the middle east as well as creating the FISA court.
Gerald Ford, who didn’t even have a brain after playing football too long without a helmet 🙂 and PARDONED the corrupt Richard Nixon who was “I am not a crook” today. Before that look at Johnson who was HORRIBLE! Enough for today, but you get the drift. There has not been a decent president in my time period. We have no clue what Kennedy would have done, but Cuba says enough. Let’s go a few more back to get to Trumann, who decided to use the BOMB @ Hiroshima. Remember that Eisenhower tried to warn us.
I don’t see America going anywhere except its own destruction at the hands of our government, corporations, and military. They forget an empire cannot stand.
Regan was the Secretary of the Treasury and had nothing to do with it.
Another US lie – the Syrian bomber just took out ISIS , which was in front of the Syrian Army grunts. Moses said ” Let my People — Go — I think it was Assad who said it !
Well looks like now only did we get a new POS for a so called president, we also got another WAR CRIMINAL! When did Congress declare war on Syria? USA has turned into NOTHING but a TERRORIST MILITARY! Time to drag Trump out and let him be tarred and feathered for his corruptness. This is no LEADER, this man is not only a mockery and DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME! He is also the most WORTHLESS HUMAN BEING that ever lived on the face of this earth!
Nobody has to wish death on this corrupt ignorant POS. He will kill himself with his own diet and ignorance. Stop trying to cram your corruptness down the throats of American and around the world. You are nothing but an IDIOT along with your IDIOT MATTIS who should be on trial for TERRORISM along with the rest of this military and government!
It SUCKS to be an AMERICAN and FORCED to pay for the USA to be TERRORIST around the WORLD! STOP allowing these TERRORIST back in the USA to create their corruption in the US.
No different than all of his recent predecessors in this regard.
RECENT? Where have you been living since the 50’s? When have we had a decent one in office?
Your ranting is almost appropriate. Except, you never mention the Neocon Israeli agents who are behind this, who have taken charge of the US Govt. You need to start blaming the right people — the folks who are actually running US foreign policy. Till then you’re just another brainwashed enabler of Ziocon subversion.
And as for your frothing over Trump,… Trump has yet to gain control of the executive branch. He’s been obstructed and blocked at every turn. So who really “called the shot” on this most recent shoot-down? Just like who called the shot on the attack on the Syrian troops at Deir ez-Zor? Or the role of anti-Trump forces in the CIA in that recent and ridiculous false-flag “Sarin gas attack” on Khan Sheikoun? As intended by those who want to subvert or destroy the Trump presidency, you are blaming Trump for their treasonous acts.
We can only guess as to just how it came about. But if you start with “cui bono”, then most likely it’s just the latest attempt by Israeli/Neocon subversives influencing the Pentagon to maneuver Trump into a confrontation that will further sabotage his attempt to achieve a rapprochement with Russia.
Your anti-Trump hysteria has compromised your thinking.
Jared is headed back to the Middle East. God help us all!
“Russia, which is backing the Syrian government regime in its civil war against rebel forces,” Here’s how ABC uses the standard propaganda verbiage to describe it.
Have we finally reached the Arch Duke Ferdinand moment?
Whether you study and/or learn from history or not, it will always keep repeating itself.
Putin is way smarter than that. There are a half dozen ways he can respond that will help to defuse the situation and prevent any escalation. And that will help Trump to take down the Ziocon subversives who are behind this effort to gain control or destroy the Trump presidency.
First, and most obvious is to discuss the matter with the Russian principals. In that discussion Putin will state the obvious, that the same folks who are trying to take Trump down are behind this, and that neither Trump nor Putin should help them do this by responding with the hoped-for knee jerk belligerent reaction. Then Trump will meet with Mattis, find out who was behind this, and calmly but firmly take appropriate action.
Putin is an exceedingly cool character, and by now Trump knows with certainty who is out to get him — it’s not Putin, and neither of them is so irresponsible as to want to get anywhere near the nuclear confrontation that tops the Neocon wish list. So, not gonna happen. That’s my take on how this plays out.
The Neocons are going to lose.
(Beyond that, if things were to get more bellicose, Putin has “six ways from Sunday” to shut it down long before it develops into a direct US vs Russia confrontation. So, not to worry.)
Stay frosty.
I wish the Trump you write about had become president, and not the one that currently holds the job.
“collective self-defense,”
“Men who will kill you and justify it because it’s the law.” The late great Charles Bukowski.