In 2008, Russia began testing a new missile, which in 2014 the Obama Administration said might have violated the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty. Today, eager to hype “new” Russian efforts, even if they’re almost a decade old, the New York Times declared these same 2008 missiles a violation of the “landmark arms control treaty.”
The “new” violation appears entirely speculative, and based on the fact that the Pentagon, which had previously designated the missiles the SSC-X-8, had removed the X in some recent reports, changing the name to SSC-8. The removal of the X would mean that from the US perspective, they no longer consider the missile to be an experimental model.
This designation change led to speculation that the missiles are possibly deployed at this point, and since Russia never publicly announced a deployment, the New York Times leapt to declare the missiles “deployed secretly,” reiterating the long-standing assumption that it violates the treaty.
Congressional hawks have been eagerly lapping up the claims of violation for years, urging the US to withdraw from the treaty and start deploying nuclear weapons en masse in Europe. British officials, in 2015, even expressed openness about the idea of scrapping the treaty and putting large numbers of American nukes in Britain.
The latest attempt to hype what is actually a very old story comes with an attempt to shoehorn in the totally unrelated resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, leading the New York Times to fret that the “new” challenge, which isn’t new at all, comes when the president is without a National Security Adviser.
NYT hyping the threat???
Surely, that cannot be correct. I am waiting for mccain to come out and correct the record (sarc)!
In some ways, I hope there is a heaven. I want to sit back and watch as these ‘congressional hawks’ try to explain to St. Peter and God why they nuked the world that God made for them.
My guess is that it will be a short conversation, and that God will order them into an elevator and announce “Going Down” so these pro-nuclear-war fools get the eternity they deserve.
Are you kidding? They are convinced, as were their ilk a millennnium ago, that ‘Deo lo vult!’
Today the divine mission extends beyond the Musselimen – although the crusades are very much on the front burner again, to our ‘traditional enemies’ in Russia and China.
When you’re story-boarding Armageddon and the end of days, those Kings of the East obviously aren’t the good guys on the side of the angels, are they.
Stupid talk such as that is dangerous. Many Christians can allow themselves to behave badly on just that premise. They believe they get another chance.
I think it’s a large part of US aggression throughout the world and the willingness of so many Americans to take the chance that their behaviour could cause a nuclear holocaust.
You people have to try to bring yourselves up to the 21st. century now.
Mango Mussolini now wants Russia to return Crimea.
Return Crimea? What, like it’s a TV you bought from the store?
Perhaps if Khrushchev were still in charge you could get him drunk again…
And not surprisingly he’s all in favour of Israel not returning the West Bank.
“Different strokes, different folks”? The new consistency in US foreign affairs..
25.12. 2015 NATO: Seeking Russia’s Destruction Since 1949
In 1990, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, U.S. president George H. W. Bush through his secretary of state James Baker promised Soviet premier Mikhail Gorbachev that in exchange for Soviet cooperation on German reunification, the Cold War era NATO alliance would not expand “one inch” eastwards towards Russia.
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/12/25/nato-seeking-russia-destruction-since-1949.html
Nov 29, 2016 The Map That Shows Why Russia Fears War With USA
https://youtu.be/L6hIlfHWaGU
Oct 27, 2016 The Debate – NATO Eastward Expansion
NATO says it is going ahead with its plans to deploy thousands of troops and military hardware to three Baltic States and Poland that all border Russia. The military alliance claims that the measure is a response to a Russia’s military build-up and increased activity around NATO’s borders.
https://youtu.be/2icKhPE1svM?list=PLNB-69ClKQNW4ONtmnRdn0VKc4IIDliyO
The USA is determined to continue the war presidencies, and Russia can be one of the enemies as it has been kept in reserve with the hatred hyped up for 25 years since the fall of “atheistic international communist takeover”. For the USA, like Israel, peace would be a terrible state of affairs, and Iran, IS, Yemen, Venezuela, just are not enough to keep the best military ever known busy.
Or in other words rosemary, complete US control over the oil rich ME is essential for America’s economic future. That answers all questions at once.
Trump made a huge mistake when he bluffed on improving relations with Russia, in order to capture the small antiwar vote.
Now Trump desperately needs out from under that foolish promise and his detractors won’t let him out.
Without that one issue, Trump could bumble along with domestic policy for maybe a couple of years. Or at least until his support starts to wonder what happened to the border wall and the jobs and ………
The charade will come apart when he submits his first budget and the deficit is as astronomical as Obama’s.
I doubt it. Trump’s supporters aren’t smart enough to see the jig’s up when the budget shows it. It’s becoming quite likely now that the R’s in the US congress are showing some big cracks in the armour and that’s most likely the way Trump will be taken down. Their patriotism will tell them that it’s just not worth saving his skin.
Already the spooks are keeping sensitive information from Trump because the can’t trust him to keep his mouth shut. And imagine! The R’s aren’t very likely to challenge the spooks on that. They know what’s good for their country!
Brennan’s “deep state” boys in the NYT.
As long as everyone understands that the objective is to demonise and deletimise Putin in the eyes of his people, then we here at antiwar.com are on the right track.
It’s simply an issue of the US understanding that a strong and determined leader of Russia is standing in the way of US goals.
The US can visualize Syria, and Iran, and complete control over the ME as being obtainable if Putin can be eliminated.
Sadly, it’s a pretty sure thing that Raimondo understands that too but he can’t get himself over his fixation with the phony president.
“The US can visualize Syria, and Iran, and complete control over the ME as being obtainable if Putin can be eliminated.”
That vision is a fantasy, and pursuit of it would be a catastrophe for the US, even if Putin dropped dead tomorrow and was replaced by a clone of the drunken Yeltsin complying with every US desire.
The problem is in the hundreds of millions of people in the ME we can’t conquer and pacify, not in the limited help they get from Russia.
There’s no need to pacify hundreds of millions. The US essentially has control over most of the ME already.
The US saw it’s opportunity for complete control over the ME with the fall of the Soviet Union which also had interests. The PNAC agenda just wasn’t completed soon enough before Russia came back to stand in the way. And also China has interests that the US can’t walk over now too.
It’s not like it was any secret on what the PNAC was supposed to accomplish.
None of this is about Russian aggression and exapansionism, it’s about US aggression. Americans need to begin to face up to the facts before it leads to a world war that no side can win.
The X was removed along with a report of two battalions deployed.
So, is that report not reliable? It would seem to require removal of the experimental designation.
Then again, are the Russians treating these Cold War treaties any differently than the US has? We’ve simply walked away from some too, before they did.
Feb 14, 2017 Russia Secretly Deploys New Cruise Missile, Violating Treaty That Helped End Cold War
US Officials are now claiming that Russia has developed and secretly deployed a new cruise missile, despite it breaking a landmark arms control treaty that helped seal the end of the Cold War!
https://youtu.be/zhq3JFGA29U
Sounds like somebody wants to get back to ‘the good old days’.
They don’t care if it isn’t true. It is just propaganda to keep the sheep scared of the horrible rooskies.
So we are busy developing and deploying ABM systems in Europe and are now all of a sudden surprised that Russia make a counter move? Thank goodness, terrible as it is the doctrine of MAD seems to result in some kind of stability. So Russia has nullified our attempts to reduced the assuredness of our destruction. Might be a good thing.