Tensions are already on the rise between the US and Russia over massive US deployments in Germany for a training exercise marching east toward Russia. A force of US Marines are now heading to Trondheim, Norway for another deployment along the Russian border.
Russia is none too happy, again, both annoyed at the US for deployment yet more troops along their border, and at Norway, who promised not to host any foreign troops on the Russian border when they became part of NATO. Norway insists this is just a temporary deployment and doesn’t count.
How temporary? Officials say the US Marines will be in the area for at least a year, focusing on “cold weather” exercises which appear to center on “learning how to cope with skis.” They added the skis will have “nothing to do with Russia or the current situation.”
Russia will doubtless note that there are plenty of places to ski that aren’t a stone’s throw from the NATO/Russia border, and this will just be the latest in a long list of small irritants adding to the tension between the US and Russia.
I don’t like these deployments, but the base these marines will be stationed at is not even close to Russia’s border.
It is a meeting point then they will be deployed to the Russian border.
My wife just told me Trondheim represents north Norway must be a awful lot bigger country than I thought
how bout russia puts troops in cuba how would we act?
I’m not justifying the decision. If it were up to me we would drop out of NATO entirely.
The US is Nato. How could the US drop out of itself?
You Americans are going to eventually have to come to terms with the truth. Nato is nothing more than your legitimizer for US military action or war.
This doesn’t put you on one side or the other of the political divide. It just make you more honest and credible.
These co-opted countries are hopeless.
Norway has been neoliberalised economically and is surrendering its territorial sovereignty to NATO.
Then let them pay their share and we’ll see how that works out for them..
Their ‘share’ of what exactly? Do you understand how the USA extracts money from these countries via NATO?
Their share of NATO expenses, per the facts.
So please tell us how we make money by the paying lions share of NATO.
In fact that’s what the US is doing but it’s much too complicated for you to understand. All that’s necessary is for Americans to understand that it please the lowlife as-holes he needed to vote for him to hear that kind of stuff.
No doubt that Trump has already been briefed on the fact that Nato is a great deal for the US, no matter what the cost. I bet the US would pay double the cost if other countries threatened to pull out!
You are perhaps right the establishment would maybe pay double . Nut Trump is not establishment . He is not thinking world government
Eric, Trump was not thinking until he was briefed. Now he will know that the US would have to pay double if the other signatories demanded it. Or pay it all and let the other countries be members for free.
luv from Canada.
NATO is the United States ‘s arm of the NWO . NATO does what the United thinks the UN troops should do but won’t do because many countries do not believe the new world orders are good for them too .Putin has publically stated Russia might be interested in a new world government .. We could talk about it . But every thing has already been decided So there is nothing to talk about . I have noticed Putin is right about this , The global warming people want to make it a crime to question global warming . As long as the United States has the power to print good money . good all over the world . They have the power to get people to do what they would not ordinarily agree to do . Here is where the love of money is the root of evil .
Facts? Where do NATO expenses go? Too the US mic.
1/20/17
Crooks, thieves, and war profiteers in the corrupt Pentagon need an
excuse to ‘justify’ the hundreds of billions it swindles each year from
USG taxpayers. So, it concocted its Russian boogeyman ‘conspiracy’.
Much of the Pentagon’s 1 Trillion bucks per year budget is siphoned
off into the coffers of greedy defense contractors, while more is
pissed away through supporting (terrorists) and wasteful spending.
It’s interesting to see what happens after Jan 20th. If anything.
Now that’s just stupid.
Squandering more American taxpayer money on nonsense!
Hitler invaded Russia with almost four MILLION guys but couldn’t pull it off.
So Putin is just watching and laughing.
He knows that the American propaganda exercises are silly, but cost a great deal of money… LoL
It’s too bad that so many Americans don’t know or understand that.
I wouldn’t entirely discount the possibility (hopefully distant) that these “training exercises” are intended to frame an atmosphere in which an “incident” or false flag operation takes place creating a state of emergency intended to disrupt the Trump administration.
If the US started a conventional war with Russia, it would result in a decisive US victory.
Which of course doesn’t matter a bit because the only war between the tro is going to be nuclear and that will be over in a week.
It’s likely the US would get more through to Russia but Russia would get far more than necessary.
The US gameplan is regional proxy wars even though that doesn’t seem probable in this case. Maybe it’s finally boiled down to intimidation tactics by the US? Considering that no fronts the US have opened promise much success.
And it’s not likely that Iran is the wildcard because Trump only shoots off his mouth about things he doesn’t understand. Russia is not going to allow it, even considering that the EU countries bent to US wishes to destroy the deal. Not bloody likely!
“If the US started a conventional war with Russia, it would result in a decisive US victory.”
That depends on the objective. Anything short of conquering and occupying Russia itself, yes, decisive US victory. Conquering/occupying Russia, crushing US defeat.
When it comes to nuclear war, the US is so much more urbanized and technology reliant that it simply could not recover nearly as much, nearly as fast as any other nuclear power it exchanged nuclear strikes with. Russia, China, Pakistan, India — all of those countries are better capable of surviving with less, and less advanced, infrastructure after a major destructive event.
Marines……..on skis. You can’t make this sh!t up.
Back when I was in the Marine Corps, Scandinavia was our presumed area of operations in the event of The Big War With The Soviet Union and there was an annual joint exercise in the area. Looks like there still is. I forget what it used to be called, now it is known as “Cold Response.” So it’s not like it’s strange for US Marines to show up in Norway. But a permanent or semi-permanent deployment is certainly an escalation the cause of peace doesn’t need.
Jan 16, 2017 US military–industrial complex is willing to risk nuclear war with Russia
Author and activist David Swanson discusses the anti-Russian media frenzy, attributing it to the Democrats’ desire to explain why Donald Trump won the presidential election without blaming the Democratic Party or the political establishment as a whole.
https://youtu.be/niBCwvhePCw
It has been reported today that Norway has stopped its donations to the Clinton Foundation, which have amounted to eighty-eight millions in the last ten years. Could it be that they weren’t primarily interested in the Clintons’ charitable works? I once thought the Scandinavian nations were paragons of civic virtue. Wrong again. They are just another European satellite of American militarism.
Trump won’t be out of the loop on this. In fact, I would bet that it’s part of his plan to make america great again. And don’t forget that this sort of thing has the backing of at least 70% (debate that) of the people.
Neither will the current admin be out of the loop on it.
The reason is, after the election when the president is in place, the game playihg with the people ends, then the pentagon and the spooks take over and do what’s necessary for their gamplan, without the annoyance of the people crying. Or cheerleading.
obama poking russia again
The US polking Russia again. You’re going to have to change into Trump mode soon so you will have to use, the US. For a while at least until Trump loses all his popularity with the morons who voted for him. Then you will be able to use “Trump” instead of the US.
It’s not complicated at all, just not like normal where you just transfer your hate to the incoming president.
luv from Canada.
You may want to check a map. Trondheim is a long ways from the Russian border. Roughly about the same as saying San Francisco is on the Canadian border.
On the other hand, since all of the US wars are currently in desert or otherwise hot areas, the official statement that training for Arctic conditions or for using skis doesn’t have anything to do with the Russians is also a bit absurd.
“On the other hand, since all of the US wars are currently in desert or otherwise hot areas”
The Afghans will be glad to hear that US forces have evacuated.