Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko is vowing revenge tonight after a missile strike by eastern rebels struck a military base, killing 23 soldiers and wounding nearly 100 others.
The rebels fired rockets on a base at Zelenopillya with a BM-21 Grad, a multiple launcher rocket system common to Soviet bloc countries in the late 1960s. It is one of the deadliest rebel strikes in the ongoing conflict.
Ukraine’s Interior Ministry dubbed the incident a “terrorist act,” declaring the rebels to be “bloodthirsty scum‘ for striking a military target during what is basically open warfare in Ukraine’s east.
Russia continues to press the UN Security Council to come up with a plan for a ceasefire, though Ukraine’s government has ruled out any further cessations without an unconditional rebel surrender, and the US is loudly endorsing Ukraine’s offensive against the mostly ethnic Russian rebels.
The Ukrainian soldiers should mutiny against Poroshenko.
So much for Ditz´s claim that the anti-Nazi resistance was "surrounded". Not anywhere near so (they just got there) which this shows and the entire battalion was wiped out with now, 40 killed so far, according to Kiev´s figures and so it might be close to hundred. 23 other Kievan combatants also comprised of Nazi freaks from Lvov were killed in an ambush further south as well as an Sukhoi 25 and a whole lot of tanks and trucks.
Poroshenko/Waltzman did say “bloodthirsty scum‘ as Ditz suggest but also that for each and every (brave ,couragous, exceptional and supreme etc.) Ukie soldier he promised to kill 100 Novorossiyan (untermensch). Where have we heard that before? waltzman and his junta must have got it from the dear Fuherer Adolph himself…
So let me get this straight…if the "rebels" fire rockets, it's "a terrorist act" by “bloodthirsty scum" but if the Ukrainian Army does it, it's just business as usual and all legal and moral. Oh, I see…the choice of words is to help the US/EU justify to their own people that they are supporting the defenders of Ukrainian unity and not nazi-wannabies.
Actually, here in the US the wholly-owned MSM are no longer covering the Ukrainian civil war – you know, the civil war we as Americans have no business being involved in, much less instigating.
The problem is that Americans DID instigate the conflict. Victoria Nuland overthrew the elected president of Ukraine to stop him signing an asssociation agreement with the EU. Thus, we Europeans, whether in Ukraine, Russia or elsewhere, are entitled to say to the US "you broke it, you fix it".
You would think that after all the years the US has screwed up the messes they created in Europe that the Europeans would have learned that the US does not know how to "fix" something they broke. In all seriousness, they probably broke them on purpose to satisfy someone's private agenda never having the intention nor inclination to fix the problems created.
How long does it take a dog that is constantly beaten by it's drunken master before it bites the hand that throws it scraps? And btw, it's just an analogy and I insinuate nothing.
This is the war by Barack Hussein Obama, this is the war by IMF, this is the war by EU and us Neo fascism which costs the American people $5 billion dollars for state department to start. Barack Hussein presidency been a disastrous time for man kind all over the world, in one hand he is cooperation with Neo fascism, in the other his friend are ISIS. To hell with the us Democratic Party, change the name to warmongering far right with no democracy what so ever party.
Private citizens firing off rockets is certainly a terrorist act and no sovereign state can tolerate such conduct.
Since sovereign states get their powers by delegation from private citizens, it then follows from your logic that neither may those sovereign states fire off rockets. Can't delegate a power you don't possess.
@Thomas L. Knapp: "Can't delegate a power you don't possess."
Following this logic, it means that a) *you* (=TLK) have the power to murder US citizens by drone, say, since your 'representative(s),' i.e. Obama, say, claims to a) have exactly that power and b) has actually used it.
IF you don't like that idea much, THEN you have at least two options, a) declare 'not in your name,' say, rejecting any such delegation (which is *exactly* what many said before US "shock'n whored" Iraq), or b) declare Obama is *not* your representative, meaning that you at least suspect that in both cases, the US govt. is not a legal govt. = rogue. (Aside: IMHO the case.) Now;
[POD]: rebel —n. 1 person who fights against, resists, or refuses allegiance to, the established government. 2 person or thing that resists authority or control.
So, Q1: Would that make you a rebel? The current Ukrainian govt. is more that suspect; it is essentially the result of a coup d'état by the US via "F**k the EU" Nuland, NATO and Mme Merkel/D/EU, making the Ukrainian govt. rogue. So Q2: Are those resisting this rogue-regime rebels? Q3: IF not, THEN why does antiwar.com refer to legitimate objectors = patriotic freedom-fighters, say, as rebels?
"Following this logic, it means that a) *you* (=TLK) have the power to murder US citizens by drone"
No, it means that Obama et. al do not legitimately have that power — that what they're doing is a crime.
And in fact my response is both the a and b which you outline (I'm an anarchist — I reject both the specific claims of delegation and the claim that any state is "legal" or "legitimate").