Reflecting how much the Geneva II “peace” conference has become about the United States dictating terms, Secretary of State John Kerry today told delegates at the talks that they have only “one option” to consider, and that’s the creation of a new government, and one that cannot allow President Bashar Assad’s involvement in any way.
Though as recently as early last week Kerry was suggesting the talks might involve ceasefires and the like, in recent days he hasn’t presented the conference’s one and only goal as rubber stamping a new American-backed regime.
That suits the Syrian National Coalition (SNC), the only rebel body who bothered to attend, just fine, and they’re urging a quick timetable that would establish a new “governing body,” dominated by them, in 3-6 months.
The fast timetable is part an effort to get while the getting’s good, as the SNC has little to no support among Syrian rebels but still styles itself a “government in exile,” and wants that status formally conferred on them before any other bloc has time to object.
That’s one motivating factor for the timetable, but the other is the 2014 Syrian Presidential election, which President Assad still insists will happen on time, and which could seriously jeopardize the SNC’s claim to be the voice of a public that would never vote them into office.
Kerry's gone quite insane. Mad with power.
I really don't think it's Kerry. He takes his marching orders from Obama. I think it all goes back to Obama's stupid statement that Assad must go and, of course, his ridiculous "red line" comment, which he later had to retreat from. Obama thinks that he will lose even more face if he backs off now.
Obama's foreign policy is totally schizophrenic. He desperately wants the nuclear deal with Iran (great!) while not allowing them a seat at the table here and making the removal of Assad a pre-condition of these talks. How much of this goes back to presidential hubris when he, along with Kerry, were made to look so foolish by the Russians last summer.
Ah, it's the signature aspect of that "American Exceptionalism" thing…
I wonder if someone should come to the United States and tell us Obama has to leave office and nobody from his clique can participate in our next election . should have come and thrown Bush and his clique out of office to for dropping bombs on innocent people
The dictatorial approach by Kerry shows the fact that what is called democracy is not about people decision choosing their government or their futures but rather for those who dictate the outcome of people votes for change. That's not democracy, that's dictatorship dictating, ordering a nation to change or else. A prospers nation as Syrian were before the war will not change because of Kerry or any other government whom desire is to expend the Saudis and other tyrants religious dictatorial regime forcing nations to accept it, that's not democracy, that's helping the dictatorships and their barbarians, that's helping terrorists of all kind legitimizing their barbaric actions.
Kerry should simply admit that the terrorist takfiri al qaida insurrection in Syria is a full blown US initiative on behalf of kleine Israel to create a modern Belgium through which to operate a blitzkrieg against Iran and if Syria doesn't get on side, Kerry will hold his breath, turn purple and blow his brains out. Kerry, please cut to the chase and give the floor to Mr al-Assad who is most capable of statesmanship, realpolitik and diplomacy. Has the US ever abandoned its gravitas as completely as when it is doing servile contract wet work for Israel and their Saudi momes? M\
Now that I see that the cookie jar is not at all under my control, it's become clear that regime change is the sole option in the kitchen. Only mom's replacement with a coalition of the slightly more willing could guarantee my supply of sweet morsels.
Having trouble seeing Karry's BS working out at all. I 'spect Kerry is making a spectacle of failure (I wonder if that's what he's for generally). It could be that the real story is Turkey? http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/21/bfp-ey…
Now that I see that the cookie jar is not at all under my control, it's become clear that regime change is the sole option in the kitchen. Only mom's replacement with a coalition of the slightly more willing could guarantee my supply of sweet morsels.
Having trouble seeing Karry's BS working out at all. I 'spect Kerry is making a spectacle of failure (I wonder if that's what he's for generally). It could be that the real story is Turkey? http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/21/bfp-ey…
If the SNC doesn’t have the support of the rebel factions, and the numbers are in the thousands, what makes Kerry think that anything on the ground is going change.
The outcome of this "peace" conference will be a US ultimatum: Either Assad goes quietly to exile in Siberia or the lyrics of crazy Senator McCain's "Bomb Iran" will be changed to "Bomb Assad".
Watch out Kerry. You are at the brink of war again. Our country cannot take any more of these vile mid eastern adventures. Too expensive. Too bloody. So shut your 1% trap and pay attention to the American people.Let the Syrians solve their own problems.
The coincidence of the Geneva-Kabuki and the "Assad torture photos" suggests that these photos are the Assad-analog of the Saddam Hussein bio-vans. Geneva will fail to remove Assad hence our administration will move the ball to the UN where Ambassador Rice will show the photos even though the CIA has warned her that these are not proven to be from Syria and were reported by an unreliable informer named "Spitball".
Geneva II is not about talking. It is about a powerful nation dictating to a weaker nation. That is something the UN was supposed to prevent, but has instead facilitated. Kerry and the UN are both losing what little remained of their credibility with this farce.
Geneva II is not about talking. It is about a powerful nation dictating to a weaker nation. That is something the UN was supposed to prevent, but has instead facilitated. Kerry and the UN are both losing what little remained of their credibility with this farce.
I continue to be flabbergasted at the utter arrogance of the US. The Syrian civil war is absolutely none of the US's business, regardless of the excuses they drag forth to fortify their meddling. As long as Assad refuses to accede to the American demands, the US is hamstrung. Even after the US (with encouragement from the Saudis) armed and facilitated the "rebels" who immediately devolved into their own internecine conflagration, Assad remains strong and getting stronger. The issue here is US hegemony and image. Because the American people are overwhelmingly against another war in the ME, the USG is only able to stamp their feet and hold their breath and continue to make threats – kind of like what Israel does regarding Iran.
The US is not going to put boots on the ground like they did with Iraq. To do so would likely inflame the American public into doing something drastic against those in the government who advocate getting involved in affairs that are not in the interest of the American people.
Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.
Wishful thinking indeed. The American people have learned the hard way that what we want has no impact whatsoever. The parties and pols can lie to us with impunity, tell us what we want to hear to get elected, and turn right around and put our blood and our treasure entirely at the service of the imperial 1%. Obama is a perfect example of this "game". Him and his "Nobel Peace Prize".
Shades of mad Madelleine Allbright's rant "that its worth killing 500,000 Iraqi children to accomplish regime change to get rid of Saddam Hussein."
A glance at the msm headlines shows that the US is on record as not only wanting Assad not part of the solution but so is the guy the top man in North Korea; the top guy in Afghanistan, the top guy in the Ukraine, the one in the Sudan, Putin almost makes the list, the top guy in Cuba and the top guy in Uganda that threw out of his country a homosexual Englishman who had a preference for people of color.
Is that 21st Century foreign policy or what ?
Whom do you think you are that dare to tell Bashar Assad who is supported by more than 60 percent of the population to go. The people who determine if Assad stays or go is through election and by people's vote not BY THE WAR CRIMINALS AND THE T ERRORISTS. The dictatorial regime that must GO is you regime who killed 50000 innocent people in Libya alone. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. No one listens to the war criminals and their puppets like Saudi Arabia. You and your petty supporters must be in ICC now but ICC is a western tool against weaker states. ICC is criminal as well. You have killed millions of people based on lies and with act of terrorism where is going on on daily basis. The world is fed up with you all.
On the one hand, it's none of the US government's business who rules in Syria.
On the other hand, no one — including Bashar Assad himself — has the slightest idea what percentage of the population supports him.
You may don't know but many people know that Assad is more popular than the war criminals , including Obama, who kill Muslim childern and babies on a daily basis.
{demonstration in support of Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, in Damascus. 'Some 55% of Syrians want Assad to stay, motivated by fear of civil war.' }
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan…
Even NATO data shows that 70 percent of syrians support their leader, Bashar Assad, that's why the war criminal at the WH, Obama, cannot attack Assad militarily. Obama was selected by the zionist bankers, and presented to the public. US election is FRAUD.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3…
"The data, relayed to NATO over the last month, asserted that 70 percent of Syrians support the Assad regime. Another 20 percent were deemed neutral and the remaining 10 percent expressed support for the rebels."
Was the chemical weapons "incident" in Ghouta, and the sequence of events that followed and resulted in the surrender of Assad's chemical weapons stockpile,…was that all a gambit, a trick, a ploy? Was the ABC Newswoman's question to Kerry — "Isn't there anything that can be done to stop the US attack?" — just "something that happened" or was it prearranged? Was stripping Assad of his strategic deterrence against Israel a fortuitous coincidence, or a plan successfully executed?
If those chemical weapons are in fact now disabled, and on their way to being destroyed, doesn't that clear the way for a full scale attack on Syria by whatever "coalition of the willing" can be assembled, and now without the previous risk to Israel?
Both Ghouta and the current "11,000 detainee deaths complete with torture photos" are strong candidates for false flag/psyops propaganda to further delegitimize Assad and provide the necessary public support for the next step: an air war on the Libyan model. (The US can't — politically — do another full "boots on the ground" war, but a cruise missile and drone campaign to test out the new "lossless" method of war-making might just be "the least untruthful" way to slip it past the US public. YMMV.)
With the removal of Syria's chemical weapons deterrent capability, will Putin provide Assad with backup security guarantees?
Was the chemical weapons "incident" in Ghouta, and the sequence of events that followed and resulted in the surrender of Assad's chemical weapons stockpile,…was that all a gambit, a trick, a ploy? Was the ABC Newswoman's question to Kerry — "Isn't there anything that can be done to stop the US attack?" — just "something that happened" or was it prearranged? Was stripping Assad of his strategic deterrence against Israel a fortuitous coincidence, or a plan successfully executed?
If those chemical weapons are in fact now disabled, and on their way to being destroyed, doesn't that clear the way for a full scale attack on Syria by whatever "coalition of the willing" can be assembled, and now without the previous risk to Israel?
Both Ghouta and the current "11,000 detainee deaths complete with torture photos" are strong candidates for false flag/psyops propaganda to further delegitimize Assad and provide the necessary public support for the next step: an air war on the Libyan model. (The US can't — politically — do another full "boots on the ground" war, but a cruise missile and drone campaign to test out the new "lossless" method of war-making might just be "the least untruthful" way to slip it past the US public. YMMV.)
With the removal of Syria's chemical weapons deterrent capability, will Putin provide Assad with replacement security guarantees?
I have NO idea what John Kerry is doing…. He was originally elected Senator as an antiwar candidate'
The show begins at 5 Min. mark……….
Geez, you guys are being so unfair. Here we have the US claiming to be the world’s policeman. In reality, it has to suck up being told what to do by Israel. So what can the US politicos do? They take out their frustrations on some poor pissant country, so they can pretend to be all powerful.
It should never be forgotten that the US has been more than happy over its existence to overthrow Governments to install whomever they WISH into power in countries all over the world, Its most obvious foray was the Hawaiian Islands, with the US backing American Terrorists because that is what we would be calling them today, with US backing over threw the legal government of Hawaii in the late 19th century! Of Course it also overthrew the democratically elected Iranian Government in the early Fifties because they had the temerity to want to Nationalize the Oil industry, so the CIA arranged a Coup and Installed the Shah setting in motion all the Blowback to 9/11 and beyond! each interference adding its wait with direct causal effect! Interference in Iran eventually meant Iran through out the Shah and the Current Iranian Government coming to power, an attempt to get rid of that Government, meant that the US gave Sadaam weapons of mass destruction, Chemical weapons and the like which were used to attack Iran, Also at a similar time the US in its long Cold war activities decided to fund the Taliban and Bin Ladin even taught bin Ladin advanced techniques in warfare , how to use stinger Missiles, After A while it was plain that iran wasn't going to be beaten, so Sadaam asked America if it would be alright to attack Kuwait which it is known the US said was alright, so he did, and that was fine UNTIL Sadaam rushed to the Saudi Border and massed its troops there, making the US nervous that it would attack Saudi and interfere with their oil supplies, so they had to attack Kuwait, to do so they had to mass on the Saudi Border, to which their former ally Bin Ladin took offence that their were infadels on Saudi soil, told them to leave but was ignored setting off the attacks which culminated with 9/11! Simplified maybe but consistent with what has happened! the question is how different would this world be if the CIA had not overthrown a democratically elected government to install a brutal dictator and his Savaak secret police!
Is John Kerry setting the scene again for serious and significant blowback for the world to endure with his demands of regime change from the US in Syria?
It seems to me like there's room for a deal here. How about this:
– Assad's government dissolves in favor of a transitional administration which cannot include members of the Ba'ath Party, at the same time as
– Obama's government dissolves in favor of a transitional administration which cannot include members of the Republican or Democratic parties.
Whether or not Kerry agrees to the proposition will demonstrate whether or not he's seriously "negotiating." In real "negotiations," you give up something to get something, right?
It seems to me like there's room for a deal here. How about this:
– Assad's government dissolves in favor of a transitional administration which cannot include members of the Ba'ath Party, at the same time as
– Obama's government dissolves in favor of a transitional administration which cannot include members of the Republican or Democratic parties.
Whether or not Kerry agrees to the proposition will demonstrate whether or not he's seriously "negotiating." In real "negotiations," you give up something to get something, right?