In early October, the CIA admitted that the underlying goal of US policy is Syria is to keep the civil war going at all costs, and that all aid to the moderate rebels were designed to try to keep them in the fight, but unable to win it.
They appear to have dramatically overestimated the moderate rebels’ capabilities, however, and now the group is virtually irrelevant in the grand scheme of thing, as the rebels are dominated by Islamist factions.
But the goal must go on, apparently, and the White House now says its open to the idea of throwing its support behind the Islamic Front, a Salafist group that was involved in mass kidnappings and executions earlier this week on the outskirts of Damascus.
All the US is asking is that they disavow al-Qaeda, who was also involved in those executions. It wouldn’t do for the US to be backing al-Qaeda, you see, but backing their ideological brethren so long as they’re at least nominally separate, that’s evidently fair game.
Britain raised the possibility last week as well, and was reportedly holding face-to-face meetings with Islamist leaders on the prospect of them aligning themselves with Western backers.
In such situation and importance of being THE supporter of Saudis and UAE tyrants, even if Hitler himself was reintroduced by Saudis and UAE the USG would have accepted the offer. In the other hand who els would the OTHER choice for USG or the Europeans be to support, the Kurdish Democratic Party…, the Syrian war is designed to bring down the Syria government and replace it with whatever and as long is takes, then to bring down the Iranians and Iraqi government, the Pakistani and etc, they are doing everything possible to make the Saudis and UAE, the Turkish government, the Israeli apartheid regime happy. The entire matter of Eastern Europe and Middle East is about geopolitical interest of these regimes. The Ukrainian situation connected to Syrian, the Iraq and Kurdish, the Turkish and Syrian Kurdish nations, now these barbarians presented as Islamist rebel are also connected to geopolitical interests of USG and EU.
USG and EU governments, from Sweden Neo liberal fascism and their allied, David Cameron of England government to French social democrats and German Christian democrats regimes don't want for any government to create a united front against these colonialism regimes; therefore they have no other option but to support the barbarians, the Wahhabis, the Salafis and their affiliated terrorist groups. These elements of destructions were created by USG to fight the USSR in Afghanistan, these government have a very good relation with governments sponsored terrorists as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, UAE and EU country that produces them. This is 2013, non of the supported terrorists or otherwise called "rebels" have any democratic agendas nor present any democratic platforms, they simply are paid mercenaries by Saudis and UAE, trained by USG and EU to terrorize the Syrian nations, Kurdish or others, supporting such groups proves that USG nor the EU is about democracy but rather a helping hand to a stone aged regimes as Saudis and UAE, they might drive a million dollars cars or live in a mansion made of gold, but that doesn't mean that they are for democracy or part of democracy that people deserve, a functioning democracy.
Don't mention the word "Democracy" when you are talking about the middle east, people don't know the meaning. "Democracy" to them is having a King or a so called Dictator in charge of their country, and that's good. Want to know why? "Its their culture." Look what is happening now since the west tried to cram it down their throat.
Read the history of Middle East, the democratic uprising by the people of Middle East against the French, the British and the USA colonialism is longer then the entire USA history in democracy combined, that is to say if you can call the present and past US or English democracy a democracy. People of Middle East have past the fazes in democratic process, they are demanding for a functioning one, that is only possible if USG or the Europeans are not in business supporting tyrants, apartheid and stats sponsored terrorist regimes as they do in Syria and as they have done in the past.
The people had a functioning democracy under Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi and Hosni Mubarak, ( it might have been a little bit different) so compared that to what's happening now. Its going to take years to re build those countries which were destroyed in the name of "DEMOCRACY"
Well, there were functioning STATES under Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi and Hosni Mubarak. It would be hard to stretch "democracy" enough to fit what those states were, though (to be fair, most of the states claiming to be "democracies" aren't either, including the US).
Thomas, you are knapp, and knapp in Swedish mean the one that have no brain.
That wasn't even funny the first time you said it. For one thing, it's incorrect: The word "knapp" means "button" in Swedish. For another, ad hominem needs to be novel or interesting to not be boring.
What are you talking about, who did what where and for who? But if you ask the people of Iraq they will tell you that they had it much better under Saddam Hussein, free educations, free medication, free university for all Iraqis and people of Iraq are not shy about it, until George W. Bush and his Neo fascism regime with Paul Wolfowitz, the father of all USA Zionism plan, drown in 1990 to invade Iraq. And if you ask the Libyan people they well tell you the same that they had it much better during Gaddafi until when Hillary Clinton and Saudis, the Turkish, the Swedish and Neo French and Italian mafia, and Saudis the UAE with the blessing of USG wanted to give the country to Saudis and UAE barbarians.
The foreign policies presented by USG and EU is based on social and economic thievery which bring us to ask the question: where is and what happened to billions of Libyan dollars in hand of Goldman Sachs and other US bankers, the ones that are the entity of USA Zionism. What happened to millions of Iraqi money when Paul Bremmer was was in charge in Iraq? Why USG is at war for last 65 years with every nation in this world no matter the kind of government, why USG is always have a war plan, as we speak for next decade if not more, Iran is one of them, china is next, beside being a militarism regime what els USG represents, food stamps for the world with food produced by Monsanto?
I suspect that if I ask different people of Iraq, Libya, etc., I'll get different answers.
In any case, it's no secret that I opposed the US invasion of Iraq (I took part in the 1991 war as an infantry NCO, something I regret) and US support for the rebellion in Libya, and that I oppose US intervention in Syria and everywhere else.
I agree with you that the US is a militarist regime. It has been one pretty much all the time since the Spanish-American War and at times before that.
That doesn't magically make other dictatorships into "democracies," even if the dictators do hand out candy.
It's all smoke and mirrors because the US was backing islamist lunatics from the beginning. It wouldn't have been "cricket" to be seen supporting the very ones you were out to supposedly destroy in the beginning but when they failed to quickly take out Assad it's now "ho-hum"… Let's be clear here… out governments are the true terrorists with proxy lunatics and killers to do their dirty work.
The US is trying to save face here, they have no other alternative but to be backing the Islamist extremist who's ideology is the same as al-Qaeda, what's the difference here, a name change maybe.? In the long run al-Qaeda will dominate the Islamist and merge as one.
Bizarro world, for sure…
"In early October, the CIA admitted that the underlying goal of US policy is Syria is to keep the civil war going at all costs, and that all aid to the moderate rebels were designed to try to keep them in the fight, but unable to win it."
Are we to understand that the goal of US policy is to promote continual and indecisive civil war in Syria? What is the presumed reason for this goal? Presumably to fuel the military-industrial complex? Any other motive? Surely not the generation of the maximum number of refugees? Is the US pursuing this goal in Syria only, or in other places as well? If not, why concentrate on Syria only? If affirmative, where else is this policy in action?
This is a very serious matter, and one would wish that this policy and the reason for it should be much more documented and strongly denounced -inter alia-in this website
US strategy is revealed to be Israel's preferred option – a continuing bloody stalemate that leaves no clear victor to challenge Israeli hegemony in the region. Surprise, surprise.
US strategy is revealed to be Israel's preferred option – a continuing bloody stalemate that leaves no clear victor to challenge Israeli hegemony in the region. Surprise, surprise.
US strategy is revealed to be Israel's preferred option – a continuing bloody stalemate that leaves no clear victor to challenge Israeli hegemony in the region. Surprise, surprise.
This is a catastrophy for US! UK will, as always, find a way to blame US, but we will not be able to run away from Salafi horrors! They are well documented throughout this war. But it was obvious that US will do that, ever since Saudi Arabia announced that it will get all the groups toghether and name them Islamic Front. As they today kidnapped over 120 Kurds, what do we have to say about this? Or what about the nuns they still hold? THE VIDEO LIBRARY OF THEIR CRIMES AND HORRORS OVER CIVILIAN POPULATION IS ENOURMOUS. Salafi movement around the world is shocking people by their bestiality, and we will work with them? Our leaders need to be shown pictures, of which one is very telling. A girl, may be seven or eight, tied by rusty chains, watching her parents being tortured and killed. We need to flood our leaders by pictures that these head chopping, organ eating, chain saw cutting pregnant women monsters pride themselves with.
What price Empire builders?
"all aid to the moderate rebels were designed to try to keep them in the fight, but unable to win it."
This was the US tactic towards Germany and Russia: fund both in such a way that they kill as many of each other as possible.
You really have to never pay attention at all to be able to view the US government as a force of morality.
15 Dec: Al Qaeda rebels to meet US officials: Sources
Syrian rebel commanders from the Islamic Front which seized control of bases belonging to Western-backed rebels last week are due to hold talks with US officials in Turkey in coming days, rebel and opposition sources said on Saturday.
The talks could also decide the future direction of the Islamic Front, which is engaged in a standoff with yet more radical Sunni Muslim fighters from the Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).
A rebel fighter with the Islamic Front said he expected the talks in Turkey to discuss whether the United States would help arm the front and assign to it responsibility for maintaining order in the rebel-held areas of northern Syria.
He declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the talks, and gave no further details.. http://gulftoday.ae/portal/f5822d31-9a5b-4b10-879…