Last month’s key P5+1 deal with Iran was the crowning achievement of years of diplomacy, and the Obama Administration has made much of trying to protect the deal, warning Congress against passing any new sanctions because that would violate the terms of the agreement.
But it is the administration itself that has put the deal in serious jeopardy, having imposed a series of new sanctions against Iran’s trading partners yesterday. Iran’s negotiating team is now leaving the Vienna talks and returning to Tehran, leaving open the question of whether or not the talks will resume.
Iran’s chief negotiator, Deputy FM Abbas Araqchi, explained the decision to quit the current talks was made because the US move violated “the spirit” of the P5+1 deal, which included an explicit pledge to impose no new sanctions against Iran for six months. The Iranian government is now said to be evaluating the situation and whether they can continue the talks at all.
The Obama Administration had argued the new sanctions “technically” didn’t violate the deal because they didn’t hit Iran directly, but rather a bunch of Iran’s trading partners for doing business with Iran. The administration also says the timing of the move was “coincidental.”
Yet it’s hard to see how it could be, and after repeatedly warning Congress against moves that could threaten the talks they appear to have gone out of their way to test the limits of the agreement.
EU officials say they believe the talks will resume at some point, but the damage may be done either way, and even if Iran does agree to return to the talks it will likely be with a much more skeptical eye toward the exact terms of any deal, since the US has shown itself more than willing bend their interpretation.
Just before WW2, harsh new oil sanctions were imposed on Japan by order of an Asst. Sec., using his temporary power while the boss was out for the weekend. FDR then felt compelled to keep it in place, because removing it would be "weakening."
Something like that could have happened here. Our economic warfare team is holdovers from Bush, and they are ideological extremists with close ties to Israel. They would. It has happened before.
New detail to me. Which Asst. Sec?
Dean Acheson.
"the crowning achievement of years of diplomacy"
So sad that people keep calling this "diplomacy". If, after a history of killing millions of Americans, overthrowing the American government, and installing a torturing, murdering King, Iran was now targeting the US civilian population with sanctions, and using that, plus new threats of annihilation, coupled with sporadic assassinations, to compel the USA to give up some of its rights under international law, at Iran's whim, would people in the US still be calling it diplomacy? Seems much more likely they would be calling it what it actually is: more terrorism.
The US has been doing this to Iran nonstop since 1953. We're just over sixty years in now.
Praising US actions against Iran is like if you were a German citizen praising Hitler for diplomacy if he said to Poland, "If you just do what we want, we won't have to torture and kill you again."
This current sabotage is just another in Obama's stream of intentionally sabotaging his phony, godfather "offers" with Iran.
A few years ago, Obama proposed a deal with Iran. When Iran agreed to attend a conference on the deal without reservations, Obama cancelled the conference, showing that he had hoped Iran would simply reject the deal so Obama could illustrate Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate.
Brazil and Turkey then teamed up and offered the same deal to Iran. Iran accepted the deal.
Obama then demanded that the deal be cancelled, and harshly criticized Brazil and Turkey for pursuing it, again showing that Obama never wanted the deal implemented, but had simply wanted Iran to reject it, to show Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate (this after repeated efforts from Iran to work with and appease the USA, all trashed by Washington).
Brazil then sent an open letter to Obama, criticizing him for destroying a perfectly fine deal that Obama himself had originally proposed.
Obama is nothing more than another Zionist puppet….even if wanted he couldn`t act in another way…
Obama has been selected by the zionist bankers to implement the plan "world government" for the elite who rob the world, and Obama as a servant has accepted this deal. So, Obama must be held responsible for the sanction policy against Iran. He thinks he is clever, but he is dumb to think that people view congress or "Israel lobby" of a microscopic state erected on stolen land of Palestine as responsible party. NO ONE except a phony 'leader', obama, who has sold himselve for a petty job at the wh is responsible for war criminal activities that implement against Iran and other muslim countries around the world. Obama is using congress and 'Israel Lobby" as excuse to hide his cowardness. He is not a leader, he is a puppet, otherwise he would not have accepted to be sellected by the war criminals to the thrown. American people must force all puppets out of office NOW, otherwise they will be viewed as war criminals.
Zionist puppet? Some. Are Zionists also cover and camouflage for the imperial objectives of DC. That, too. It's a very complex, symbiotic relationship that I don't think either the US or Israel could get out of even if they wanted to, which neither does. Oversimplifying it in either direction completely misses the point, and understates the potential for disaster as both parties get locked ever further into this "alliance".
Zionist puppet? Some. Are Zionists also cover and camouflage for the imperial objectives of DC. That, too. It's a very complex, symbiotic relationship that I don't think either the US or Israel could get out of even if they wanted to, which neither does. Oversimplifying it in either direction completely misses the point, and understates the potential for disaster as both parties get locked ever further into this "alliance".
I agree with all you have said above but please replace Obama with "the American President" Obama is no saint but he was not there all the time.
Why no mention of the Israel lobby?
I love your imaginary "history". During his 38 years in power, the Shah's regime executed about 400 people. This issue was investigated by Paul Balta of the magazine Le Monde: that is 400 executions over a 38 year period. The ruling Mollah Regime has executed 529 people so far just this year. And that doesn't even reach its peak, when it executed about 15,000 Iranian men and women in the 1980s. In comparison to population size, the Mollah Regime is the world's leading executioner.
I love your "tunnel visions". The US beat the Mollah by a mile.
I love your "tunnel visions". The US beat the Mollah by a mile.
Amir, you are an ignorant person. Did the shah receive sanctions by the war criminals? was Iran attacked by US puppet, Sadam who supported by the west and was given all kind of WMD? was Iran economy under attack by sanction? Was Iran invaded by thousands of stooges and spies called NGOs like today and so many terrorist groups? Kurds and Baluchis, Arabs? The answer to all these questions is NO. Shah 's nuclear program was created by the CIA because he was US puppet. Iranians kicked out the US puppet.
Long live Iran and down with US imperalism and ignorant stooges.
Amir, you are an ignorant person. Did the shah receive sanctions by the war criminals? was Iran attacked by US puppet, Sadam who supported by the west and was given all kind of WMD? was Iran economy under attack by sanction? Was Iran invaded by thousands of stooges and spies called NGOs like today and so many terrorist groups? Kurds and Baluchis, Arabs? The answer to all these questions is NO. Shah 's nuclear program was created by the CIA because he was US puppet. Iranians kicked out the US puppet.
Long live Iran and down with US imperalism and ignorant stooges.
Slight correction: The US-backed Shah regime was in power for 19 years, not 38… This was clearly not a typo by you, since you wrote 38 twice. This doesn't help your credibility, but, moving on:
If we accept your statements, they make for one of the best arguments of all for why the USA shouldn't have overthrown Iran's democracy in 1953! 🙂 Duh.
Usually, when the USA overthrows a democracy and installs a dictator, the results that follow aren't super awesome. Just sayin'.
Also, you don't bring it up, but how many people did the Shah torture? The CIA, as part of its training of the shah's SAVAK secret police force, SAVAK a CIA made training video called "How to Torture Women". Around this time and later, the USA was busy at the UN General Assembly, vetoing, alone, resolutions calling for conventions on improving women's rights worldwide.
Haha! Of course I gave the wrong number, too. It's 26 years, not 19 or 38 🙂 1953 to 1979.
Haha! Of course I gave the wrong number, too. It's 26 years, not 19 or 38 🙂 1953 to 1979.
Slight correction: The US-backed Shah regime was in power for 19 years, not 38… This was clearly not a typo by you, since you wrote 38 twice. This doesn't help your credibility, but, moving on:
If we accept your statements, they make for one of the best arguments of all for why the USA shouldn't have overthrown Iran's democracy in 1953! 🙂 Duh.
Usually, when the USA overthrows a democracy and installs a dictator, the results that follow aren't super awesome. Just sayin'.
Also, you don't bring it up, but how many people did the Shah torture? The CIA, as part of its training of the shah's SAVAK secret police force, SAVAK a CIA made training video called "How to Torture Women". Around this time and later, the USA was busy at the UN General Assembly, vetoing, alone, resolutions calling for conventions on improving women's rights worldwide.
Oh, and the USA was complicit in executing, in a war of aggression also in the 1980s, conservatively, 1,500,300 Iranians and Kurds, many with illegal chemical weapons.
Little Iran can't compete with the world's reigning monster.
Oh, and the USA was complicit in executing, in a war of aggression also in the 1980s, conservatively, 1,500,300 Iranians and Kurds, many with illegal chemical weapons.
Little Iran can't compete with the world's reigning monster.
"the crowning achievement of years of diplomacy"
So sad that people keep calling this "diplomacy". If, after a history of killing millions of Americans, overthrowing the American government, and installing a torturing, murdering King, Iran was now targeting the US civilian population with sanctions, and using that, plus new threats of annihilation, coupled with sporadic assassinations, to compel the USA to give up some of its rights under international law, at Iran's whim, would people in the US still be calling it diplomacy? Seems much more likely they would be calling it what it actually is: more terrorism.
The US has been doing this to Iran nonstop since 1953. We're just over sixty years in now.
Praising US actions against Iran is like if you were a German citizen praising Hitler for diplomacy if he said to Poland, "If you just do what we want, we won't have to torture and kill you again."
This current sabotage is just another in Obama's stream of intentionally sabotaging his phony, godfather "offers" with Iran.
A few years ago, Obama proposed a deal with Iran. When Iran agreed to attend a conference on the deal without reservations, Obama cancelled the conference, showing that he had hoped Iran would simply reject the deal so Obama could illustrate Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate.
Brazil and Turkey then teamed up and offered the same deal to Iran. Iran accepted the deal.
Obama then demanded that the deal be cancelled, and harshly criticized Brazil and Turkey for pursuing it, again showing that Obama never wanted the deal implemented, but had simply wanted Iran to reject it, to show Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate (this after repeated efforts from Iran to work with and appease the USA, all trashed by Washington).
Brazil then sent an open letter to Obama, criticizing him for destroying a perfectly fine deal that Obama himself had originally proposed.
"the crowning achievement of years of diplomacy"
So sad that people keep calling this "diplomacy". If, after a history of killing millions of Americans, overthrowing the American government, and installing a torturing, murdering King, Iran was now targeting the US civilian population with sanctions, and using that, plus new threats of annihilation, coupled with sporadic assassinations, to compel the USA to give up some of its rights under international law, at Iran's whim, would people in the US still be calling it diplomacy? Seems much more likely they would be calling it what it actually is: more terrorism.
The US has been doing this to Iran nonstop since 1953. We're just over sixty years in now.
Praising US actions against Iran is like if you were a German citizen praising Hitler for diplomacy if he said to Poland, "If you just do what we want, we won't have to torture and kill you again."
This current sabotage is just another in Obama's stream of intentionally sabotaging his phony, godfather "offers" with Iran.
A few years ago, Obama proposed a deal with Iran. When Iran agreed to attend a conference on the deal without reservations, Obama cancelled the conference, showing that he had hoped Iran would simply reject the deal so Obama could illustrate Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate.
Brazil and Turkey then teamed up and offered the same deal to Iran. Iran accepted the deal.
Obama then demanded that the deal be cancelled, and harshly criticized Brazil and Turkey for pursuing it, again showing that Obama never wanted the deal implemented, but had simply wanted Iran to reject it, to show Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate (this after repeated efforts from Iran to work with and appease the USA, all trashed by Washington).
Brazil then sent an open letter to Obama, criticizing him for destroying a perfectly fine deal that Obama himself had originally proposed.
"the crowning achievement of years of diplomacy"
So sad that people keep calling this "diplomacy". If, after a history of killing millions of Americans, overthrowing the American government, and installing a torturing, murdering King, Iran was now targeting the US civilian population with sanctions, and using that, plus new threats of annihilation, coupled with sporadic assassinations, to compel the USA to give up some of its rights under international law, at Iran's whim, would people in the US still be calling it diplomacy? Seems much more likely they would be calling it what it actually is: more terrorism.
The US has been doing this to Iran nonstop since 1953. We're just over sixty years in now.
Praising US actions against Iran is like if you were a German citizen praising Hitler for diplomacy if he said to Poland, "If you just do what we want, we won't have to torture and kill you again."
This current sabotage is just another in Obama's stream of intentionally sabotaging his phony, godfather "offers" with Iran.
A few years ago, Obama proposed a deal with Iran. When Iran agreed to attend a conference on the deal without reservations, Obama cancelled the conference, showing that he had hoped Iran would simply reject the deal so Obama could illustrate Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate.
Brazil and Turkey then teamed up and offered the same deal to Iran. Iran accepted the deal.
Obama then demanded that the deal be cancelled, and harshly criticized Brazil and Turkey for pursuing it, again showing that Obama never wanted the deal implemented, but had simply wanted Iran to reject it, to show Iran's supposed unwillingness to negotiate (this after repeated efforts from Iran to work with and appease the USA, all trashed by Washington).
Brazil then sent an open letter to Obama, criticizing him for destroying a perfectly fine deal that Obama himself had originally proposed.
Keep Bibi happy. Lay more sanctions, send more oney..
It is essential for the administration to not arrive at a definitive agreement that would remove all possibility of Iran developing a nuclear bomb. Without that nebulous threat, the US would lose all excuses for the Missile Defense Shield that as we all know is aimed at Russia's nuclear deterrence.
What possible other excuse would the US have? It would have to other shelf the Missile Defense Shield or openly admit that it is directed at Russia. Russia knows that fully well and it was reflected in President Putin State of the Union address yesterday vowing that no nation will be allowed to gain military supremacy over Russia!
As far as I am concerned, America hs persecuted Iran for over 60 years .. Most of all not too many trust America based on all their crimes and unjust wars ! I bet you one in amillion that Israel created more problems for iran. What really chaps my hide is that our economy suffers – not too many good jobs are to be had – but America decides to TRIPLE the actual among of oour money Israel was supposed to receive. something is very askew here! but unfortunately he average American is not very educated and ill informed .. Plus when it comes to terrorism – Well Americans are he Terrorist starting and never finishing these unjust wars – invading and then leaving a mess behind. I'm not suprised thaat America is currently the nost hated country worldwide .. Who on earth could trust America – nothing but thieves and corrupt government to boot …
The zionist CONS in DC are pushing very hard for WW3…and by GOD they will have it!
Their prerogative. But here's the game: does the gen pop in US see the first foul or just the retaliation? There's no referee.
Yeah, not really direct sanctions. We're still trying to destroy their economy but were doing it indirectly so it's all good. Sheesh.
"Since when can the European Invaders be trusted to keep a treaty?" – Any American Indian since 1621
Let's put our heads between our legs and hope for the best.
No lets get the H out of there–PERIOD..
Sometimes the mind can not comprehend what the eye is reading. This is one of those cases. We had finally come out of the dark ages and stopped being a bunch of Neanderthals with Iran and now this incomprehensible goof up. The USA has become the laughing stock of the international community and lost all credibility in the civilized world. All his because a bunch of fanatical zealots in the Middle East, who had secretly built their own illegal atomic bomb, put the pressure on our government and are dictating our foreign policy, such as it is. Our self serving Congress is walking on their leash and shows no backbone whatsoever. How long will this go on? Have we no pride ?
Is there no patriotism left in our country? God help us all.
Are you asking about "true" patriotism…or what the bloviators are claiming is their definition of patriotism…you know, the definition where patriotism has been co-opted and now is part war-monger, part religious fanatic, part Bircher, part schoolyard Constitutional scholar (I use scholar rather loosely, of course).
Patriotism no longer means what it did when I was growing up. Along with "hero" what it means to be a Patriot has been corrupted to suit a meme.
The USA has proved once again THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED.
America's word means absolutely NOTHING.
Thes people are incapable of ANY negotiations in good fauth.
SHAME AMERICA SHAME.
Isn't the whole point that America is so powerful we have become shameless in the world? Under the Might Makes Right philosophy, doesn't shame only apply to those that can be brought low?
No. Shame is felt by those who have any moral fibre.
The Lawmakers in America are breft of any morals – that is why they are shameless.
Iran should tell hose dogs and pigs from the West , those savages to piss off.
One does not discuss with the savages.
One commentor mentioned the Missile Shield, missiles in Romania, Poland and on 32 warships in the Mediterranean Sea. This will lead to Launch On Warning by 2017 and unfortunately SUICIDE. For that reason General Harbottle said to me, "They are bloody fools in the Pentagon!" According to missile engineer Bob Aldridge -www.plrc.org-the Pentagon has been working on a Disarming First Strike Capability since 1970 (Trident-1 and NAVSTAR-GPS). Robert C. Aldridge: The Counterforce Syndrome.
Nice going warmongers.
I knew the deal was too good to be true, the American terrorists in congress have done it in. In a perfect world there would be worldwide demands to sanction a certain chatty little apartheid country in the middle east.
Congress didn't get a chance to do it in. The Administration beat them to it.
The USA has truly inherited the mantle from perfidious Albion and is wearing it with exceptional pride.
The Empire is dead; long live the Empire.
And God bless — or should that be "help" – America.
This is the reason why I do not vote. The slobs in Washington listen to one thing, the sound of money or a certain lobby that I dare not mention lest I be branded an anti-Semite.