The White House has issued another statement criticizing Israel’s stance on diplomacy with Iran, insisting their “all-or-nothing” proposal, demanding Iran unilaterally give up the sum total of its civilian nuclear program and not accepting anything less, was a recipe for war.
Terming Israel’s position a demand for “total capitulation” from Iran, White House officials said they believed if the world took that position Iran really would try to make a nuclear weapon, and that would lead to a war.
Israeli officials don’t seem to be disputing that aspect of their demand, and indeed the fact that the demands would be rejected and could then be used as a pretext for war appear to be their primary appeal for hawks in the Netanyahu government.
The White House comments warned that the position risked alienating other P5+1 members, as well as other nations who up until now have been abiding by the sanctions, but which might jump ship if the demands of Iran get less and less reasonable. Though they offered no specifics, there have been reports of some nations growing weary of the endless sanctions position, and the US warning might reflect that.
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"demands of Iran get less and less reasonable"
I think you mean: "demands **on** Iran get less and less reasonable"
Is not only Israel that would love to start a war with Iran, for doing that, Israel needs to be friend with Saudis and UAE tyrants regime and helped by them to start a war, that is to say if USA and EU governments don't help Israel to start the war with Iran. So, the rhetoric is either empty words or Israel needs to have US or EU or Saudis and UAE on board to start the war with Iran, now the question remains, what is going to be left of Middle East, Persian gulf when the war starts?
What could be clearer than that the Nazi government of Israel wants war and is determined to have it? Aided and abetted by bat-shit crazy dispensationalists in the United States, these vermin constitute the greatest threat to peace in the world today. What is positive about these developments is that their insanity is now clear for the world to see. Besides the growing success of the boycotts aimed at criminal Israel, a scalpel needs to be taken to its nuclear arsenal. We're safer with North Korea than with Israel.
Whoa. What happened? Did somebody over there skip their meds and let reality slip in?
Well Mr President do what you have to do, tell the world that Netenyahu is the ONLY man to sell nuclear weapons EVER, Have the South Africans confirm it, there goes his credibility down the drain! Then tell Israel and the Israel firsters Like Senator Kirk that as they have sold Nuclear weapons you will declare Israel a Rogue nation and a terrorist state and immediately cutoff all aid under existing US law. Include that phrase that any one helping Israel will be considered to be giving material support to a terrorist entity and Send them to Gitmo! No trial needed! Crazy, only as crazy as going to war with Iran, because a war with Iran will be the end of the US and every other country on the planet, the economy will fail! To quote another KIRK fictional maybe but just as poignant THIS IS OUR LAST BEST HOPE!
You've said this before, but it makes no sense at all.
Every nuclear weapon that ever existed was sold, and Netanyahu certainly didn't sell them all.
What do you mean "every nuclear weapon that ever existed was sold?" Where did you get that bit of "information?" I know of no nuclear weapon that was ever sold, since the nations that BUILT them don't trust anyone else to have them. What are you talking about?
Uranium does not grow on trees. Physicists do not live on donations while they design implosion diagrams. Contractors do not assemble weapons out of the goodness of their hearts.
Every nuclear weapon ever built was built for buyers, by sellers.
This is the argument of a sophist. viz.: a person who uses clever or quibbling arguments that are fundamentally unsound (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sophist).
No one, with the exception of Israel, has put complete nuclear weapons up for sale. At least none for which evidence exists, as it does in the case of Israel.
This is the argument of a sophist. viz.: a person who uses clever or quibbling arguments that are fundamentally unsound (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sophist).
No one, with the exception of Israel, has put complete nuclear weapons up for sale. At least none for which evidence exists, as it does in the case of Israel.
According to Wikipedia, Israel gave SA technical assistance, but not sold a complete bomb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa_and_wea…
I'm unaware of the evidence you seem to be claiming exists that Israel sold "complete nuclear weapons" to South Africa. Feel free to offer a source if you've got one.
Israel certainly sold and/or shared technology with South Africa. Just like Pakistan did with North Korea, just like Klaus Fuchs did with the Soviet Union, etc.
You're grasping.
Hopefully China and Russia will be the first to break ranks. Others will follow starting with UK.
If the people in Washington is allowing Netanyahu to call the shots, of course we are heading for war with Iran. Don't see the reason or benefits, even from a so called "National Interest" point of view will only bring more deaths to Americans just to please that egotistical, ignoramus, racist dictator "Netanyahu."
The door is opening. Light is leaking into the darkened chambers illuminating the plotters and schemers.
The Iran nuclear issue is not very important to Obama. He's not committed to doing anything either way. There will be no deal and no war.
I agree. It's 99% Kabuki. Just Obama going through the motions so as to look like he is doing something. No deal can be reached because no deal is politically acceptable. Israel wants nothing less than Iranian surrender, and as Israel owns Congress, Congress will not allow it. The proof of the poodle is in the bleating. "More sanctions! Crippling sanctions!", bleat the legislative quislings. How the citizens of the once great, now subjugated United States of Israel, … I don't get how they can stand it.
Luckily, you're also right that there will be no war. The Israelis can't do it alone, and Obama will never allow himself to be dragged into the mess that would result.
why why why does the US care at all …what this little puny group of humans have to say/demand…
grow up USA demand that the zionists all go back to their original countries and be jailed for treason…
Netenyahoo reserves the right to commence WW3.
If Israel is successful in getting the Western negotiators with Iran to take the position that no civil nuclear industry should be allowed in Iran, even for peaceful purposes, then should Israel also insist that Iran shut down every molecular biology laboratory since they are equally capable of producing stealth weapons which will be much more difficult to detect? Since when does any country have the right to dictate which sciences specific countries can be allowed to develop for their benefit?
Bomb Iran!
Israel is a warmongering society. They are the cause of all evil in our society
Who has any doubt now of war perpetrators?
The US is very likely simply colluding with Israel, which is basically a US nuclear and military base in the Middle East, to have a way to start a war with Iran that doesn't look, to the general public, like the US itself is starting it, but rather was trying to hard to "'negotiate" with Iran (actually the US has zero legal authority over Iran's nuclear rights, so everything it is doing to Iran is simple imperialism).
The US, Exxon Mobil, and other billionaires like Dianne Feinstein, fund DC think tanks to write plans on how the US should invade Iran and install a "pro-American" regime.
One of the tactics for initiating such a plan is, and I quote from the Brookings Institute plan, "Allow or Encourage an Israeli Military Strike."
Source: Here is an analysis of the report, a list of funders of the report, and a link to the full report: http://empireslayer.blogspot.com/2013/10/if-iran-…
Let's see : A temporary and fleeting night dream about Iran, or a waking nightmare perpetrated by greedy, maniacal Zionists ? from where I sit, the Zionists make most of us nervous on a daily basis. I am trying to recall when Iran ever got me in a tizzy. Still trying to recall…(crickets)
The demand that the 5+1 get tough on Iran "to prevent war" sounds like tthe toughness demanded of Deladier and Chamberlain in regard to giving away Czechoslovakia. Netanyahu has been hung up on 'appeasement' so long he's finally realised what a good idea it was to Hitler and Mussolini.
Regime change time for Israel. Maybe they can have someone of mixed race, the way we have in America, that many oldtimers thought would never ever happen.
Nah this is Israel we're talking about. The best we can hope for is a non-warmongering jew. Won't hold my breath waiting for anyone else.
Regime change time for Israel. Maybe they can have someone of mixed race to lead their multicultural and multiethnic nation where every person has equal rights under the law the way we have in America.
Nah this is Israel we're talking about. The best we can hope for is a non-warmongering jew. Won't hold my breath waiting for anyone else.