Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev could find himself the test base for the 2012 NDAA amendment authorizing the indefinite detention of American citizens captured on American soil as “enemy combatants.”
At least if Sen. Lindsey Graham (R- SC) gets his way. The hawkish Senator railed against the notion of Tsarnaev, a Chechen-born American citizen, being read his Miranda Rights, and demanded that the Obama Administration not grant him access to civilian courts at the end of a day-long chase that led to his capture.
It seems to be at least under consideration within the Justice Department as well, as officials have announced that they won’t be reading him his rights and are still considering whether or not he will be allowed to have an attorney or simply be handed over to the military for “interrogation.”
The NDAA has seen court challenges already from people who have a reasonable belief they might be summarily detained by this or future administrations, but the administration has fought, with mixed success, by claiming they have no intention of ever doing so, even if they totally could.
With the current hysteria around Tsarnaev, the administration could find this a media-friendly test case for the power to detain American citizens without charges. That what Tsarnaev is accused of is actually a crime may not mean much, as the administration has in the past shown an aversion to using civilian courts whenever they have an excuse not to.
In a worldwide poll, would Tsarnaev be considered a terrorist or a freedom fighter?
Terrorism is terrorism no matter where or who they are.
The point of no-right-to-remain-silent/right-to-attorney-statement is to ensure a period where the suspect can be effectively tricked or coerced –the hope being that this'll give valid information. (IMO, in a way, cops already get away with a lot by just not formally arresting you (Q: "what have you got in your pockets?" "anything in your pockets that could hurt me?" Proper answer: "Got to Hell." More appropriately: "none of your business, AND I don't consent to a search." A common answer is a list of whatever you imagine he'd care about and happen to remember.)). But I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up yielding some 'clues' about e.g. The Lindberg baby, Hillary's sex change, …. the Pope's reptilian nature, gossip on who Linsseee wants as a US enemy……. And if such a 'suspect' ain't a basketcase beforehand, he's likely to be after that, and bloodthirsty GWoT-suckers will be cheering while DoJ sets a precedent…
Well, at least the photos look right. Hey, what prescription/psychiatric meds were they on?
The point of no-right-to-remain-silent/right-to-attorney-statement is to ensure a period where the suspect can be effectively tricked or coerced –the hope being that this'll give valid information. (IMO, in a way, cops already get away with a lot by just not formally arresting you (Q: "what have you got in your pockets?" "anything in your pockets that could hurt me?" Proper answer: "Got to Hell." More appropriately: "none of your business, AND I don't consent to a search." A common answer is a list of whatever you imagine he'd care about and happen to remember.)). But I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up yielding some 'clues' about e.g. The Lindberg baby, Hillary's sex change, …. the Pope's reptilian nature, gossip on who Linsseee wants as a US enemy……. And if such a 'suspect' ain't a basketcase beforehand, he's likely to be after that, and bloodthirsty GWoT-suckers will be cheering while DoJ sets a precedent…
Well, at least the photos look right. Hey, what prescription/psychiatric meds were they on? Looks like at least one associated YouTube account was cancelled: https://www.youtube.com/user/muazseyfullah . So who doesn't want it seen?
Sadly, the American sheeple are so ignorant at this point and so emotionally charged in the immediate aftermath of this event there will be no protest whatsoever to how this guy will be treated in custody, except on sites like antiwar.com. Never mind Miranda or access to a lawyer or even a trial. Even if there is a civil trial and not some NDAA-type star chamber, it will still be a farce and we will never be told the facts and the truth, certainly not from the shill media. This guy Tsarnaev is another Timothy McVeigh, a terrorist and enemy combatant, end of story. False flag operation or not, this appears to be proceeding according to the government's usual script and M.O.
Why stop there? Why not public torture until he implicates Iran, North Korea, Hugo Chavez, and the Hollywood Ten?
Graham…a true Manchurian. Perhaps these kind of people (Graham/Ayotte, etc) are the hidden weapon that will bring this country down. I'm amazed at how easily they throw the Constitution under the bus on one hand and on the other stand before us and swear that they are defending the Constitution. Sorry Charlie, you can't have it both ways. When Cheney and Co opened the rabbit hole of rewriting the normally-held and accepted interpretation of the Constitution I don't think I understood how quickly they would take us down. Despite this being a possible "test case" I really hope they don't go there. But, that 's just this old Curmudgeon's opinion…
According to Sen. Graham then being an American citizen is a "sometimes" thing. Makes one wonder why an American citizen "spying for a foreign nation" not also be considered as an "enemy combatant?"
~'..if treason profits, none dare call it treason.'
Well of course, what else can you expect from this prick. Any excuse to torture someone his whole life. And lets not forget about Tsarnaev's girlfriend and two other acquaintances who got arrested. Something tells me the government is going to screw them for life as well.
A couple Americans in Massachusetts commits what is considered a crime in Massachusetts. The criminals should be tried in the courts of Massachusetts. The federal government shouldn't be involved at all.
Better to kill Tsarnaev right away, before he gets the chance to reveal another false flag opration. Anyone with a bit of brains can see these two students lack the professionalism, resources and logistics to stage a bombing like this. The whole area was swarming with security, you couldn't spit unnoticed. The only questions are who set them up and what is the reason behind it?
Senator Graham and Representative King are the poster children of why we have a Bill of Rights.
Who knows perhaps in the end the real terrorist isn’t those who light up bombs in public spaces but the way we as a society choose to deal with such behavior, which once again begs the question, what are we really achieving when we resort to a kind of terrorist behavior ourselves for the idea of preserving freedom and liberty when our very own actions only serve to erode it?
When you cheer for the erosion of his rights, you’re cheering for the erosion of your own.
https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2013/04/dzhokhar…