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1. davidgrayling
   September 6th, 2012 at 8:41 pm

   It's either France or Britain who manage to inflame the Middle East by selling weapons! Of course, they are small cheese compared with the U.S. who is the Big Brother of the Armament Industries.

   The three of them talk a lot about peace but I'm not sure how peace fits into the militarization of the world.

   Has anyone got any ideas? I'm rather confused!

   P.S. I often am the first commenter but someone keeps moving me down the list. Is that a demotion?

2. Yonatan
   September 6th, 2012 at 9:20 pm

   They gotta to use those US-supplied stingers some way or other.

3. TooTrue
   September 6th, 2012 at 9:49 pm

   Arming the FSA terrorists is France's worst strategic blunder since the Maginot line.

4. 08oo
   September 7th, 2012 at 12:43 am

   When braindeath USA/NATO has turned the whole region into Al CIAda Islamic sttes and unifies the whole oil rich region from Balkans (Bosnia, Kosovo), to Turkey, Syria, Irak, Irn, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon, Saudi-ARABIA, Kuwait, Bahrain, Katar, Egypt, Jemen, Sudan, Somalia, Mali, Libya, you possibly can add the now muslim former southern Soviet Countries, may unite and cause real problems.

   Happy wars !

   USA has partnered with Islamist extremist :
   Ex-CIA officer: Braindead West wants Jihadists to rule Libya:
   watch?v=8FMXud80xI0

   French defense expert:
   At 3:50: USA they "have a secret agreement with the Jihadists: YOU GET THE SHARIA AND WE GET THE OIL"
   watch?v=lZKA0F0XQDI

   globalresearch.ca reporter from Libya:
   13:20 NTC people told me, it was the USA who brought in Al Qaida. Libyans do not want the islamists, but the US wants them and is controlling them.
   watch?v=nsKx7kbvkJA
   http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/mossad-agents-p…

   Former CIA Head blows the lid off the fraudulent Wars, live on CNN (reporters shocked) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MleqV8CVv4Y

5. 08oo
   September 7th, 2012 at 1:10 am

   FINALLY the underlying problem is the the dissolution of the Eastern Military block in 1990 and that this has been a deathly danger for the NATO defense industry. I remember the desperate, sometimes funny search for new enemies in e.g. the magazine of the German army – speculation about the threat from African countries with several pictures of wild blacks with spear and shield.

   You may remember the CLINTON SEX SCANDAL which did cost 30 millions and had a duration of about one year. Clinton did not rise defense budget ! One week after he did, the scandal was over ! And the wars or at least regime changes were already planned in advance 1991: AGAINST ALL FORMER SOVIET CLIENT STATES ! The bloody civil war to break down Yugoslavia has be conducted, ended with NATO WAR, than self-produced WTC-/PENTAGON attack, the wars against Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, under-cover wars, drone wars and just US-made revolutions:

   a NON-capitalst country, can decide the freeze defense, when not longer necessary, but in capitalist societies, the defense industry and others profiting from wars do just take over the government and control anything from their profitability standpoint. The state becomes a victim and is sucked out till death. Since they also control information, news and by this the minds and elections, there is no solution. Because you well know how bad the did made communism or non-capitalist solutions. Even when US PEOPLE DIE FROM HUNGER THE WILL NOT FIND THE ONLY SOLUTION ! To run and control the large factories and companies by the people democratically in the interest of the public – instead of being controlled by solely profit maximization.

   Enough bombs turnover

6. 08oo
   September 7th, 2012 at 1:17 am

   to add some proof is not bad I think:

   Their "Crime-agaist-humanity"-propaganda[/b], always tells the world the story of "dictators" who kill their own people, but in fact, it was the USA who has sent and/or created terrorists who did kill: E.g. US created Croatiatian fascists, Kosovo drug dealers conversion to the KLA-terrorists; Shia-uprise in Iraq, Jihadists sent to Libya and now Syria- along with professional revolution makers like OTOPOR. http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=lpXbA6yZY-8 .

   They played with feelings and with blood, massacres, mass rapes, ethnic cleansing, concentration camps, torture and death children produced by themself to create hate against their enemies and justifying NATO "humanitarian intervention" bombing.

   The US-list of this wars against "former soviet client-states" comprised the first Iraq war, Yugoslavia 1999, Iraq 2003, Afghanistan 2001, Libya 2011, Syria 2011, Iran.
   This list has been confirmed by US General and former democrat US presidency candidate Wesley Clark and others: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKnSqmwqVtI

   and more detailed: USA sees a time window of 5-10- or more years "for war against former soviet client states" in the middle est and North-Africa without soviet intervention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TY2DKzastu8&fe…

   another similar voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adG7VsrwFRA

   These new kind of wars are actually secret guerrilla wars surrounded by professionally organized "revolutions/uprise etc.

   In short it means: Sending or creating death squads and uprising, blame the government murderer, call the death squads freedom fighters, which than gain victory with NATO air force by carpet bombing any government forces. Also important: Bombing water and power plants, gas pipes, telecommunications and civilians to urge people to surrender or accept regime change.

   In US Army jargon, these secret guerrilla wars are professionally managed, are called Special operations UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE and their methods are well documented.

   See e.g. here from Training Circular No. 18-01, US Army John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center and School; 30 Nov 2010 [b] Special Forces Unconventional Warfare (UW)[/b]:

   "There is another type of warfare—new in its intensity, ancient in its origin—war by guerrillas, subversives, insurgents, assassins; war by ambush instead of by combat, by
   infiltration instead of aggression, seeking victory by eroding and exhausting the enemy
   instead of engaging him. It preys on unrest."

   or: 1-1. The intent of U.S. Unconventional Warfare efforts is to exploit a hostile power’s political, military, economic, and psychological vulnerabilities by developing and sustaining resistance forces to accomplish U.S. strategic objectives."

   This is document is online. Search for: USArmy-UW.pdf at publicintelligence.net

   For the "REVOLUTIONS" / UPRISES" see:
   OTPOR, US Revolution consultant hired 43 times http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=lpXbA6yZY-8

7. MoT
   September 7th, 2012 at 5:04 am

   So those "freedom loving" rat bags now admit that even innocent civilians on board aircraft are legitimate targets? Whoah! So it goes without saying that if they say as much and are supplied with weapons by outside countries, obviously, then those supplying the weapons would be complicit in any civilian deaths, no? Where is the outrage by the interventionist peanut-gallery over this? Democracy must be so wonderful that innocent people NEED to be killed to get it? Seems Libya has already been swept down the memory hole now that it's worse than it was before with Gaddafi.

8. Jaime
   September 7th, 2012 at 6:58 am

   Since they were crushed by the Germans in May 1940, the French have been trying to do something "relevant" in the world arena. But they should lose hope: they are only lapdogs. On the other hand, this really means that the Free Syrian Army is just a bunch of terrorists, and the west is aiding terrorists. But that's well and fine with the west because they are the papá terrorista.

9. SS Ulrich
   September 7th, 2012 at 7:34 am

   Of course civilian aircrafts are a legitimate target. This is what their paymasters, the Ameircan and its subservient "allies" do/did with Iran. Not only the shooting down of a civilian iranian aircraftt, but the violation of the Chicago Convention and withholding parts to civiilan aircrafts which have resulted in the deaths of so many. How reassuring that the United States is leading the world — in terrorism, murder, and mass murder.

10. mojo
    September 7th, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Once a peaceful social democrats, that was 30 years ago, is no longer a social democrat nor peaceful any longer. All these regimes are working for their masters which is the bankers and other economic corporation, Goldman Sachs and others alike. US and EU have been supporting terrorism since they been supporting government who supporting their mercenary from time in Vietnam to present war in Syria, Saudi Arabia and Qatar is just two of them. NATO is militarism regime, Turkey is a member of that section, the Turkish government is one of the proxy sectarian system chosen by EU and US to supply arms and a place training these terrorists. US nor EU care about who these people are or what is their agendas, they haven't before they are not going to now, for EU and US what is important is to have a continues wars all over the world keeping their militarism regimes busy, is a political attitude adopted by these new liberalism fascist looking for something good to come out their investment knowing that the system is bankrupt.

11. R.C.
    September 7th, 2012 at 8:56 am

    You'd think this declaration from their puppet army to wontonly slaughter innocent civilians would be a "banner headline" for the MSM. Instead, they've been silent and will continue to be as long as the people working for "us" are doing the slaughtering. Banner headlines are reserved for the people the establishment loves to demonize no matter how insignificnt the story may be (see the tiresome seemingly daily horror stories on Putin).

12. Cola
    September 7th, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Don't worry. When our terrorists do manage to shoot down a civilian plane, the US corporate media will proclaim it to be a great victory. We'll probably be told that a "Syrian Army #2 Commander" was on board, and that the other 200 or so dead innocent people are just acceptable collateral damage for taking out such a person.

13. howardtlewisiiii
    September 7th, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    U.S. two legged swine.