The Moscow negotiations between the P5+1 and Iran began today much as the past few rounds, with a flurry of demands from NATO member nations for Iran to give up large portions of their nuclear program while offering nothing in return.
But unlike the past rounds, Iran is said to have offered a “detailed” response on the matter, emphasizing that any pledge to stop enriching uranium to 20 percent was predicated on an international guarantee for access to fuel rods (which require uranium at that level) for the US-built Tehran Research Reactor (TRR), which produces medical isotopes.
Officials said that the talks didn’t rise to the level of “detailed negotiations,” but that they were unusually frank and that Iran was insistent on its basic rights to a civilian nuclear power as a member of the nuclear NPT.
They also added that there was no “breakthrough” in the talks so far. The last round of talks, in Baghdad, ended with no deal beyond the agreement to meet in Moscow, and this round too might simply see both sides punt on a future round of talks, giving officials a chance to rail against Iran for another month.
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The Iranian navy has recently announced that they are building nuclear powered submarines. These subs would need uranium enriched to a higher level than 20%. Therefore, Iran would not easily give that up unless the other side also offers something substantial.
I’m very pessimistic and believe no positive outcome would come from these talks as long as Zionists have a chokehold on the US and EU, which is contemptuous that Zionists can spin the P5+1 around their little fingers. Who’s really the superpower here (just a rhetorical question)?
How long do they drag this kabuki out? You know they're itching to bomb, you know the bombs will fall, why even bother with this elaborate minuet any more?
Rocky,
It's all about looking "democratic", being "diplomatic", so that the msm can report that the west was "pragmatic" and "reasonable" and did everything possible to solve a non-existent problem, so that when they decide to bomb and terrorize Iran, the msm can rally behind the flag.
This neo-con project will end in tears, for they think they can rule the world. The good news is that all empires come to an end, but it will take a lot of suffering, unfortunately, before we get to that point with the US empire. It's all about American "exceptionalism". That's the kabuki.
Rocky,
Something else. Mr. Hopey-Changey, who used an expansion of the war in Afghanistan to get elected in 2008, never mind all the deaths, maimings etc. which ensued, is now caught in the middle.
He's facing re-election, accused by Romney of being too soft on Iran, under pressure from his political paymasters Aipac to strangle Iran, yet he knows that if he launches another war, before the election, and American casualties ensue, as they surely will, then will Romney win the day, or will the voters go with a president at war? How will Mr. Hopey-Changey respond? Yes we can't? This is all part of the minuet.
This war-mongering business can be tough, particularly when you're not in the front line. I wonder how many of the neocons will report for frontline duty, and be in the first wave out of the trenches?
Unlike the WMD fiasco in which alot of people didn't know either way if there were some or not, a multitude of people already KNOW that Iran doesn't have and/or doesn't want a nuclear weapons. Let's hope an unjust attack on a sovereign nation doesn't go unpunished this time around.
Yes, though thus far no evil deed has gone unrewarded.
These talks are doomed from the start. As long as Israel dictates the terms to the US and Europe, there will be no agreement on anything. It's all a waste of time.
The west is bankrupting itself and it is only the bankrupting, unstoppable economic realities that will eventually put a halt to the agressive war-mongering.
Logic, morality, and common sense will have nothing to do with it, and may that day arrive sooner rather than later. Only than can the nation begin to rebuild.
The West is not interested in TRUE negotiations. It is a ploy to claim their willingness to resolve differnces through negotiaitions and use the controlled mainstream media to propagate the false pretence of "Iran's failure to come clean". Any fair-minded person could see the truth in these negotiations from 100 miles. Unfortunately, most citiczens of this planet are clueless or ill-informed and can not see he truth if tape it to their nose.Tthus, the maority of people are easily manipulated with the dubious News about these negotiations.
As the true intent of the Western powers, they only want regime change in Iran and not an independent selfserving nation since that could set a "bad" example in the ever so more important oil-rich region of Middle-East.
“The abomination that causes desolation”
ALL of the four diplomats at this meeting from the Western nations have spoken the lie, throughout the meeting will staunchly defend the lie, “We are concerned that Iran intends to build nuclear weapons,” knowing full well that they are liars and knowing that everyone in the room knows for an absolute fact that they are liars.
And all during the meeting such a gross, manifest injustice and distortion of reality will be completely ignored. Instead, all diplomats will be most insincere, dishonest, two-faced and hypocritical pretending that the Western diplomats are being sincere and men of honor who’s word should be excepted with full faith and trust.
PROBLEM IS, Western powers have created a state of war, by sanctions that rune the economy of Iran that are surely acts of war, and the only way this meeting can stop an eminent bloodbath in Iran is if the Western diplomats except the truth, agree to abide by the truth and keep their word to acting in obedience to the truth.
THEREFORE, the putrid corruption of this meeting is a stench in the nostrils of any man with an ounce of integrity.