A new study from Brown University’s Watson Institute has set an estimated that the post 9/11 costs of the assorted wars of the Bush and Obama Administrations has been in the realm of $4 trillion and has directly killed 258,000 people.
If this death toll seems a tad low, its because it is. The study readily admits that it is only calculating “direct” kills, and not the indirect deaths from shoddy healthcare, lack of access to food and water, etc in the various occupied nations.
The toll includes 137,000 civilians directly killed in Afghanistan and Iraq and notes that there are no reliable figures for the number of civilians killed in Pakistan, but says 35,000 more there is a conservative estimate.
The cost of the wars includes direct appropriations as well as the increased liability for long term care for wounded soldiers, etc. It does not include the CIA’s drone wars, because the cost of those is not known.
So…..when will Bush and Obama be declared war criminals, and get to sit in the dock at The Hague?
Oh…riiiiiiight. These are the heroes of the "Republic".
Mr. President/s your wars are not about democracy nor you are Mr. America.., the carton hero.., saving American working man and women, you might be the carton figure but diffidently not a democrat.
You will lose the next election because of the fact that there is no democracy coming out of your party, a party that you have destroyed to satisfy your ego.., you and the democratic party have ignored the fact that people didn’t vote for you but they voted for democracy relying on your words and promises for democracy to work for people.., but you have betrayed the trust of Americans and world over by starting the Libyan war.
This war is not about democracy but is about Muslims Brotherhood, Arab Emirates and Saudis where you have given your trust defending the Muslims brotherhood fundamentalism in one hand and in the other true tyrants in another…, so where is that democracy that you and your party is talking about.., where can you find such terms as democracy in Tyrants Kingdome regimes or Muslims Brotherhood book of delusions.., please say it out loud maybe we been missing something here and there about DEMOCRACY.
"224,000 to 258,000 people have died directly from warfare,"
That number seems extremely low
Previous estimates done just for Iraq deaths were putiing it at about half a million.
This is 5 years later and they are claiming half the deaths even after adding in afghanstan's deaths to the figures?
Smells fishy to me
So the conservative estimate is about 2200 "direct kills" per month for 10 years – that´s about 120 9/11s at this point. Of course the "excess death rate" is several times higher. Quite impressive how that´s not news.
Way to go America. Proud of your service.
Actually Busch is a war criminal including neo-cones who forced him to carry out 9/11 so that they can attack and occupy Irak, Afghanistan and damage pakistan upto desaster.
With this money they could have created millions of jobs, social security and even could help Afghanistan with only small to develope infra structure but this is our vergion but what God will ? We don,t know but is clear america has proved to be a killer and liers state with too much muman lifes on their sholders.
I appeal always american pl. don,t kill Muslims thzey have no harm to you, why you and your media is lieing, we did no harm to you why?
We have put trillons of dollars in your country and respect you? but why? you hate us.
We never waged a war against yoou but why have declaed crusade against us.
Histoy is full of such lies. We have to live with these lies at least coming 10-20 years then the whole war game will change bur believe me we will never kill children, women elderly etc. like the americans and Europeans doing since two centuries and blame us for nothing.
Why are these horrendous statistics not incorporated in any dialogue regards ongoing wars by Members of Congress and or from their mavens in the main stream media?
As they say, "terrorism is the poor man's war and war is the rich man's terrorism."
I'm willing to bet that if the lowball numbers were to include all deaths the more realistic number would probably be much greater – more like 1.4 million. And if you include the injured and displaced the number might exceed 6 million. These are numbers that any warmonger should be proud of. And if these wars continue unabated the numbers could far exceed the human cost of the Holocaust. I wonder if then the world would consider bringing war crimes charges against all who perpetrated this illegal war…but I'm not going to hold my breath.
1.4 in Iraq alone. The toll of the other massacres is unknown.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq
Illegal?
We don't do anything illegal. Do we?
Naah!
I don't think that Rome kept track of the number of Christians killed during the purges of the first and second century. It is guessed to have been hundreds of thousands but such facts have no impact on Empires at their prime. But Rome became ove-rextended, ove-militarized and ove-taxed to the point where it fell from grace in about 50 years. Please would someone send Obama a history book so that he might learn from it. I give the USA only 20 more years of Great Empire Euphoria with the pace of change that we see today.
Directly killed 258,000 people? I call bullshit on that. In Iraq alone, they have slaughtered over 1.4 million innocents. The number in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen and now Libya are unknown. If there is one thing the Empire is good at is not counting the number of its victims.
Iraq Deaths
The number is shocking and sobering. It is at least 10 times greater than most estimates cited in the US media, yet it is based on a scientific study of violent Iraqi deaths caused by the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq
Paraphrasing Madeleine Allbright's comment of " its worth starving 500,000 Iraqi children to accomplish regime change in Baghdad" in response to a question on CBS 60 minutes no one has ever questioned were is it written in the US Constitution that Americans are mandated to engage in regime changes in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and others at an estimated cost of $ 4 Trillion of taxpayers?
WGN reports 3 more US soldiers killed in Iraq. 15 US dead in Iraq for June.
Bin Laden won. He got just what he wanted.
it doesn't matter how many die at our hands cause they are not 'mericans..we only mourn our "heroes"..at least we are getting more efficient..it took 58,000 american lives to kill a million or more asians in vietnam but with new an improved methods we have managed to kill at least 250,000 arabs with the loss of only about 4,500 hundred of our own..makes me proud to be an american……usa!..usa!..usa!..
FDR 2012!