In comments today in the New York Times, officials with the Pakistani government admitted that they deliberately sabotaged secret peace talks between Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the Taliban because they resented being excluded from those talks.
The arrest of Mullah Baradar and the number of other Taliban leaders had been initially spun as a major “get” for the Pakistani security forces, accomplished with the help of the CIA. In reality, officials say, all those arrested had been under the “protection” of the Pakistani government for years.
But when it became clear that the more moderate factions in the Taliban were engaging in peace talks behind their back, Pakistan’s security agencies rounded them up. As one official said “we are not going to allow them to make a deal with Karzai and the Indians.”
It is Karzai’s close relationship with India that seems to be driving much of Pakistan’s policy toward Afghanistan, including their not-so-secret support for insurgents in the nation. Pakistan’s defense policy toward India has long depended on using Afghanistan as a “fall back” position in the event of all out war. A pro-India government there could force a major strategic rethink.
I wonder what part America's No.1 Welfare Queen [and rogue nuclear state] plays, played in these proceedings.. Wouldn't both ole No.1 and India like to weaken and/or destroy Pakistan?? Maybe SNATCH their NUKES…??? Hey, why not now..?? With the floods raging, and Zadari weak and frightened… is this the time??? OOOO but to f**** up a snatch…oooo…the price, pain could, should…[would??] be oh so high… Maybe… and the "O" adm werkin with the usual divided loyalty…. Ouch! Hey, "O"… You and ur guys jus keep on killing all thoz Muslim WOGS….. Hey, it werked for Rome.. ..or did it??
'Pakistan admits…' is certainly the wrong heading. An unknown official saying something anonymously to NYT can't by any stretch of admission be called admission by Pakistan. The news item itself has so many contradiction that it is hard to believe, but anything that helps in expanding the war to Pakistan is probably OK with NYT.
the past few years have explicitly shown who the nyt works for and it aint the "people"
Do something about this Karzai, retaliate.
Sean
Lets get one thing clear. India does not consider Pakistan as an enemy. India does not wish any harm to the common citizens of Pakistan. Indian continuous position against Pakistan is only due to the unashamed training and entering of the Pakistan based terrorists into India to kill innocent citizens in all our Indian states including the Indian state of Kashmir. These terrorists have the complete support of the Pakistan Elite/ Army /Politicians.
The Pakistani support and nurturng of Taliban cannot be excused by naming India as the cause. India is not respnsible for Paksitan's insecurities
Let's not forget RAW trained & support for terrorists entering Pakistan via Afghanistan. Not to mention Indian trained terrorists causing havoc in Punjab area. You want peace with Pakistan eh? Is that India was holding back water with newly built Dam while Pakistan was thirsty. Don't talk BULL. If you light a match with intent to burn somebody's house you bound to get your fingers burnt. Then don't cry foul like Israels.
"the Indian state of Kashmir."
i believe there are a lot of people living in kashmir who would dispute this
There were/are also lots who wouldn't dispute it but they dont have much choice, its either shut up or be eliminated. Considering the state of affairs in Pakistan, anyone who equates merging with Pakistan to the term 'living happily ever after' has to be, IMHO, seriously delusional. Dont wish on others what you wouldnt wish on your own.
i would add that there is a strong independence movement that want neither india or pakistan so it is very complex and i never said any thing about happily ever after. but its clear by the number of troops used for occupation that neither state have a very strong hold on the public
Pakistan will doom this world.
And people who join the military place their lives at the whim of egomaniacal politicians who would sabotage a possible peace for no rational reason. Too bad these lessons are lost on youth.
lets remember who is "surging" against the taliban and who is against negotiating with them.
i'll give you a hint it starts with the letter u and ends in a
The reasons given for Pakistan thwarting the talks between the Taliban and Kharzai are embroidery.
It is in America's interest that the Taliban and Kharzai do not get to talk, for that could result in peace between Taliban and those groups Kharzai represents, and then there is no further reason for America to stay.
Let's keep foremost in mind the 44 fold increase in opium poppy production since the coming of the Americans in 2001, which they guard.
The Taliban had all but eradicated it.
Pakistan does not want Afghanistan to be a growing economy, by far Afghanistan has a better currency then pakistan considering how much war the afghan's have faced, now with all this sabotaging of peace talks is unbelievable, Pakistan and America have a very decisive plan that is not out on the table until the afghans start the investigation process with some of the Afghan/Pakistan/Taliban insurgents