The Russian Defense Ministry said Wednesday that Ukrainian forces had launched another attack on Russian territory with US-provided Army Tactical Missile Systems (ATACMS), which have a range of up to 190 miles.
Russia’s TASS news agency reported that Ukraine “delivered a strike by six US-made ATACMS long-range ballistic missiles at the military airfield in Taganrog in southern Russia on the morning of December 11.” The report said two missiles were intercepted by air defenses, and the other four were deflected by electronic warfare.
The Russian Defense Ministry said shrapnel from the missiles caused injuries. “There are injuries among the personnel as a result of the fall of missile fragments. There is no destruction while minor damage (shrapnel damage) was caused to two buildings on the airfield’s technical premises, three military motor vehicles and also civilian cars on a parking lot adjacent to the airfield,” the ministry said.
The ministry also vowed there would be a response. “This attack by Western long-range weapons won’t be left unanswered, and corresponding measures will be taken,” it said.
Last month, President Biden authorized Ukraine to use ATACMS and British Storm Shadow missiles for long-range strikes in Russian territory despite Moscow making clear the step would risk nuclear escalation. Russian President Vladimir Putin formally changed Russia’s nuclear doctrine in response, lowering the threshold for the use of nuclear weapons.
In response to previous ATACMS and Storm Shadow strikes in Russia, the Russian military launched a new intermediate-range ballistic missile into Ukraine known as the Oreshnik. The missile was believed not to be carrying explosives since little damage was done, and Putin referred to it as a “test launch.” A strike with a conventionally armed Oreshnik could do major damage, as Putin has suggested the missile could replace nuclear weapons as Russia’s deterrent.
Incoming … American sites around the ME or Nato E Europe sites should be on high alert, esp ones with few Americans and lots of partners.
This is what happens when you show weakness by allowing Syria to be overrun. Bullies bully until you punch them in the mouth. What could be coming for Iran, the wages of hiding under the bed?
The US is the bully and will get punched in the mouth sooner or later. The people around the world are fed up with the American bully, even the allies in Europe.
It doesn't seem that way. The people inhabiting these allies sure are but that would only matter these were democratic countries. Instead we have all the jokers of NATO and the EU in a bid to consolidate gained power and centralize some more, demanding we must "mentally prepare" for war. They try to scaremonger the people into submission, urging them to become preppers. They are told to stock on dry food and batteries for their flashlights and transistor radios to listen to government announcements. To have candles ready for when the batteries die. Urged to hang a whistle around the necks so they can notify rescuers when they find themselves buried under the rubble. Also I've seen a "newsprogram" giving free advise to people worried about whether to end their employment at Chinese companies.
They are corrupt governments with very low approval ratings in spite of a controlled media, democratic they are not, no more than our own government. It takes time, but riots are likely to happen sooner or later. The consequences are in the pipeline on the way down.
Ukraine has been ruined. US and NATO have propped it up. Only to fall apart once they abandon it, which they eventually will.
Ukraine was useful in preoccupying the Russians from interfering in the neocon goal of regime change in Syria.
Russia's border was the arena of confrontation with the west. Syria is only secondary to Russian interests.
That is indirectly saying give us more Oreshnik(s)…!
I guess the US is counting on Russia to give a real demonstration of the Oreshnik capabilities on Ukrainian territory before they'll use it on US assets in the region. After all, it's only Ukraine and the US certainly hasn't shown that it gives a rat's ass about the Ukrainian people or their land. Otherwise, they just keep adding bullets to the chamber in this game of Russian roulette.
Maybe … but Putin has shown more care re Ukraine civilians than its supposed western partners … also, if it's true that Russia considers use of these weapons into Russia proper as attacks by Nato, then the proper response would be a Nato site …
Yes, he's shown "more" care, but that isn't saying much. He also doesn't want a nuclear war, and he is a ruthless piece of shit.
Oh, he's a tyrant like all the others, no doubt. It's just he values fellow Slav lives more than the Brits and the USians do …
As to Putin being ruthless, I would put him well below a shitload of assholes in the US Congress, the State Department, and of course the bunch at the top, not to mention the bastards in England, France, and Tel Aviv.
Russians have been deceived many times, they can't trust anyone. In order to survive they too have to be ruthless.
He has to deal with POS.
this sounds like Göring/Göbbels defending Hitler
Correct. One only has to take note of the fact that were it not for the WH and British Goon squads, relations between Russia and Ukraine would be much less "ruthless".
Correct. One only has to take note of the fact that were it not for the WH and British Goon squads, relations between Russia and Ukraine would be much less "ruthless".
Not to forget the Army of undercover criminal CIA agents, courtesy of working American tax payers.
As to Putin being ruthless, I would put him well below a shitload of assholes in the US Congress, the State Department, and of course the bunch at the top, not to mention the bastards in England, France, and Tel Aviv.
Or he's just a lot more educated and smarter than all those assholes and bastards.
I'd put him below those you mention too. Not "well" below, but below. I like to envision what kind of politicians other leaders would be if they were our president or in our congress. I see little difference. He'd be a hawk and a phony conservative who'd be a big backer of the MIC and the security state.
more oreshnik masturbation
A suitable demonstration would be a strike on Polish or other foreign military "advisors" in Ukraine.
you don’t belong on an antiwar site
Anyone who advocates for further aid to Ukraine or actions against Russia that will only serve to further weaken and destroy Ukraine doesn’t belong on an anti-war site. Ukraine has lost enough blood and treasure at the behest of Western puppetmasters.
I suppose an argument could be made that pro-war types like you and “Krzysztóf” don’t belong on an anti-war site.
But being pro-war isn’t against the site’s commenting guidelines, so you’re both free to be here.
How does wanting a quick end to this conflict make one “pro-war” in your estimation?
i want a quick end to the conflict; russia to return all illegally occupied Ukrainian and Polish land (That means Kaliningrad) and to be neutral in international affairs
It’s not a matter of my “estimation.” You clearly and unambiguously called for acts of war.
If I said I wanted a quick end to Ukraine’s war with Russia, and that the “apt” way to achieve it would be a massive nuclear first strike on Moscow, you wouldn’t pretend for a hot second that that was an “anti-war” position.
Anti-war is opposing war, not supporting war by the side you like and opposing it by the other side.
Supporting Ukraine is not anti-war
I did this thought expirement with a friend:
Imagine you and a friend are standing with some rocks.
Your friend, the silly guy he is, picks up the biggest boulder and whacks it with you right on the head
You're pretty pissed, but that was the largest rock, so what do you hit back with?
A tiny pebble the size of your fingernail.
Is the friend, who nailed you in the head with a boulder, in any position to complain about being hit with a pebble?
That's an apt description if you start history on Feb 24, 2022. But the reason your friend picked up that boulder and whacked you over the head was because of the previous 30 years of your friend being bullied and you getting in bed with that very bully.
I just love victim blaming, don’t you?
Yes, just an innocent victim. /s
Exactly
Thanks for agreeing with my sarcastic comment. I guess that must mean you really don't think Ukraine is really the innocent victim either.
Thank you for seeing my saecastic reply to your sarcastic comment
Oh please. You're grasping.
Of course
Oh please. You're grasping.
you've mastered being reflexive
Thats what fascists did, they pretended they cared about the people being occupied
Fascists like, say…Joe Biden? Bibi Netanyahu? The sooner that the west realizes this is a failed gambit the sooner Ukrainians can go back to rebuilding.
How about British and American advisors in Kiev, since the westerners are so thick-headed about getting a clue?
A strike on “decision-making centres” with a NATO contingent would be apt.
Hardly. I have no idea how lethal the oreshnik missile is. My comment was about the US not giving a flying fuck about Ukraine or its people.
Oh
The Ukrainians damn well know there is nothing in it they can possibly win. Everyone involved gets paid for the permission to slaughter the young Ukrainians. How evil the double crossing, so-called freedom loving politicians really are.
Oreshnik with conventional explosives would seem next escalation maybe a better target like where the ATACMs are launching from would be my response.
Next flatten Kiev.
stop masturbating to Oreshnik golly
Stop being stupid oh you can’t LOL bye
"All war is a symptom of man's failure as a thinking animal." —-John Steinbeck. https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1867238453345476888
Operation Wet Firecracker is a GO!
Hazel party is being prepped and the rats in Ukraine are running for their bunkers.
It is time to end this conflict.
Only 49 days until the warmongers have to give up provoking Russia.
You mean in 49 days the current warmongers will be replaced with different……. warmongers.
Warmongers deserve love too, Sam–especially the new old warmongers. Too bad Trump can't hire John Bolton back. You know he wants to, right!?
I expect to see John Bolton advertising Quaker Oats on TV any day now.
He could use the roughage.
Desperate for jobs, perhaps?….
;-/
New and improved ones … Trump's proposed foreign policy stable looks very swampy …
continuing to jerk off to oreshnik i see
oh no, poor Russia!
They get hit with a few rockets?
Cry me a river!
https://sonar21.com/russia-per-protocol-warned-the-us-and-is-going-to-strike-with-oreshnik/
Does Ukraine warn Russia when it launches ATACS into Russia? We'd assume that Russia will strike a military target.
"Little damage was done"?? That certainly contradicts eyewitness accounts that stated the 4000° projectiles that impacted at Mach 10+ "pulverized" the strike zone and left "nothing but dust".
RUSSIA DOES NOT WANT PEACE!!
A COUNTRY Spending 6% of its GDP on the armed forces and a 3rd of its state budget thereon, IS NOT A COUNTRY SEEKING PEACE
It's always convenient to use the GDP % of spending a country, in this case Russia, uses on their military to make it sound like they are spending an unreasonable amount. Never mind that it is a minute fraction of the superpower who has been provoking Russia for over 30 years.
Its always the victims fault, right?
That doesn't even make sense. Were you out of replies and you had to repeat that one?
nope i was telling the truth
About what? Russia spends a tiny fraction of what the US spends, that's just a well-known fact. How is that blaming the victim?
not as a percentage of gdp
No shit. I already replied to that. But that has nothing to do with you saying, "it's always the victims fault".
blaming ukies for getting invaded
No. I was blaming the US for Russia increasing their defense budget. And it's still a fraction of the US.
Oh
Poland spending 5% to 6% of their GDP on military hardware and the other NATO countries also taking from taxpayers to waste money on weapons.
Fake news? Take a look at European defense stocks yesterday. They all spiked higher on a promise of increased defense spending.
When Joey Biden started this proxy war with Russia the Russian defense budget was at peacetime levels. No thanks to divisive Joey Biden the world is arming for war and may go the way of dinosaurs in an extinction level event.