Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the Ukrainian parliament on Wednesday and unveiled his so-called “victory plan,” but there’s no sign any of Ukraine’s Western backers will support his proposals.
Zelensky’s plan includes five points and three classified sections that he did not make public. The plan is essentially a list of demands that Zelensky has been making of the US and NATO for months. He claimed that if the plan was implemented, Ukraine “may be able to end the war no later than next year.”
One point is for Ukraine to receive a formal invitation to join NATO, but there’s no sign the alliance will be willing to do that anytime in the near future, and Ukrainian neutrality will be a key Russian demand for any peace deal.
The plan calls for more air defenses and for NATO countries to help shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine, which would mean direct NATO involvement in the war. NATO countries have previously rejected Ukrainian requests to intercept Russian missiles and drones.
Another point in the plan calls for support for Ukraine to use NATO-provided missiles to launch long-range strikes inside Russia, an escalation that would risk nuclear war. So far, the US and the UK have rejected Zelensky’s repeated request for help with long-range strikes.
Ukrainian MP Oleksii Honcharenko, a member of the European Solidarity party, criticized Zelensky’s plan. “First of all, it’s not a plan. Plan means something with concrete steps,” he said, according to The Associated Press. “It’s kind of a wish list from Ukraine for our partners, how they can and should support us. And it doesn’t look realistic. We were waiting for some real serious conversation about the situation and the strategy, and this is not that.”
Zelensky unveiled the plan as Russia continues to make advances in eastern Ukraine, a reality Honcharenko called “contradictory.”
Later on Wednesday, Zelensky spoke by phone with President Biden, but the White House showed no sign that it supported the “victory plan.” When asked about it, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said, “That’s their plan, and let them speak to it.”
Despite no clear path to Ukrainian victory, the US still continues to fuel the war, and a Zelenskey aide said Tuesday that American politicians are pressuring the Ukrainian government to lower the conscription age to 18.
During the call with Zelensky, Biden announced a new $425 million weapons package for Ukraine. According to the Pentagon, it includes the following:
- Additional munitions for National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS)
- RIM-7 missiles and support for air defense
- Stinger anti-aircraft missiles
- Ammunition for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS)
- Air-to-ground munitions
- 155mm and 105mm artillery ammunition
- Tube-launched, Optically tracked, Wire-guided (TOW) missiles
- Javelin and AT-4 anti-armor systems
- High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicles (HMMWVs)
- Small arms and ammunition
- Grenades, thermals, and training equipment
- Demolitions equipment and munitions
- Spare parts, ancillary equipment, services, training, and transportation
You can’t manufacture soldiers, at least not yet.
So is Zelensky going to lower and raise conscription ages and remove exceptions like education? Grannies and kids? Then there will be no population left and the empire can fill it with any other demographic and military base?
It’s not over ‘til BlackRock says it’s over and all crash test dummies have been exhausted and sacrificed? Lindsey Graham approves.
Touché ole!
What?! No tea and crumpets?!
i was sad about that too
i think we need mandatory tea and crumpets
Yorkshire Tea.
Perfectly Balanced.
i genuinely love yorkshire tea
It's more like Defeat Plan…!
quite unfortunate
the wars in the middle east are proving a distraction in the fight against Rus aggression
i feel like i comment too much sometimes
i guess math is this boring
It is not a matter of distraction. It is a matter of having lost the war and seeking a way to extricate themselves from the mess they made.
This is why Zelensky stated this victory plan, which is neither about any victory, nor is it a plan, it is rather a crafty ultimatum to his Western backers in preparation of the coming blame game he no doubt intends to survive. There are going to be some pissed off Ukrianians to reckon with.
including me
Well, good luck to you then. There's gonna be a long line waiting for your turn.
thanks!
Another 1400 Russians dead and incompetent Russian leaders. Hold fast!
Ukraine seems to be ready to develop nukes. Crazy but that’ll be a game changer!
Yeah, tankies. F**k around and find out!
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-pushes-back-weapons-mass-destruction-report-1970957
fafo too long and we get nukes haha
“Don’t FAFO!”
-Critical THinker
For once he is right!
Looks like Harris is going to pull this election out. Putin is a misogynist who will not be able to hide it. Harris will then take him out to the woodshed and beat his ass.
The Americans know how to take care of a two-bit dictator.
Yes it is not much of a surprise that toward the end, the Ukrainians, their Western mentors and kingpins, and of course the helplessly clueless suckers for Western propaganda that they produce with the same causal lawlike regularity like pigs do pigshit, that they would profess faith with inflated zeal. (Perhaps they should try blowing that up and see if it is any good as a wunderwaffen.)
It is the stuff that cognitive dissonance is made of. Believers don't stop believing after being disabused of their religious convictions. Few might start having doubts, but the bulk of them just believe harder and retreat in ever greater absurdity.
[wanking movement]
The claim that the west is trying to extricate themselves from a failed mess is patently wrong – of the people who matter only Trump Orban and a few even less significant leaders think so.
While Putin's goal remains ending the rules based world order – the west has no path to continued prosperity nor even avoiding economic collapse.
Hence continued support for Ukraine is a given. At the very minimum sanctions will stay on and the Russian economy is going to go into a long period of decline.
To get a hint as to just how bad things are going in Russia (already) watch this on how even under massive support/stimulus.
As the old saying goes, "A 'plan' is a list of things that won't happen."
You are cracking me up today.
I have my moments; not many, but I have them.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/the-grand-poobahs-not-so-grand-victory
"It’s just more of what we already knew, that the Ukrainian game is all about the Western crony elite positioning themselves to pillage Ukraine’s resources and industries. For instance, most missed this excerpt from ex-CIA chief Pompeo’s recent prank call with Russian Vovan and Lexus posing as Poroshenko. In the private call, he describes how he got his comfy sinecure on a big Ukrainian enterprise:
Isn’t it interesting how the ex-head of the CIA now runs a bank, of all things, and that bank is buying up Ukrainian enterprises? Also, it happens to be a telecom, just like Vodafone, owned by the Azerbaijani oligarch who just bought up the remainder of Ukraine’s titanium industry. Virtually every deep-state elite involved in the Ukraine debacle has got their fingers in the jar."
"Lie, cheat, and steal."-Mike Pompeo
https://www.rt.com/russia/605856-zelensky-nuclear-nato-trump/
Ukraine must have nukes or NATO – Zelensky
The leader has described his conversation with former US President Donald Trump as he promotes his ‘victory plan’ to Western backers
If one considers that bioweapons labs exist in Ukraine, the idea of a nuclear bomb could mean different things to Ukrainian leaders and senior military leaders in desperate straits.
Issue with bioweapons is, like chemical or nuclear / radiological weapons, they affect all humans the same way. What hurts your enemy can literally blow back on your own side.
The US had developed biological agents delivered by fleas and ticks for use in the Korean War. Much of this work was (and is) done at Plum Island, NY. Curiously and not coincidentally, a type of pathogen developed at Plum, carried by ticks, is now prevalent in the eastern US. Traced back to its first cases at a town just north of Plum Island.
Old Lyme, Connecticut.
Lyme Disease.
Voldemort Zelensky is acting like a deranged Adolf did in April of 1945.
Very interesting how Voldemort Zelensky becomes more and more unbalanced as more and more Ukrainian army troops are KIA.
650,000 Killed in Action and 250,000 severely injured for life.
How many dead Russians again?
Do the math 8 dead Ukrainian fascists for each Russian.
Flip that and you’ll be spot on.
America and NATO know that Ukraine is a sinking ship, and the rats are leaving as fast as they can swim away.
Joey Biden told Voldemort Zelensky to wait for the Ramstein conference for deep attack decisions and then Biden cancelled the Ramstein Conference.
Now Biden is ghosting Ukraine.
https://x.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1846939389286367428?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1846939389286367428%7Ctwgr%5E0a6d95913a6a5e448eda8c88ea7a0d3a1a3f0a88%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2024%2F10%2F17%2F2277437%2F-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Will-Ukraine-become-a-nuclear-power-again
Propaganda much!
As delivered by the Russians.
Did you not read the origin of the story?
You should know.