A Ukrainian official said Tuesday that American politicians are pressuring Ukraine to lower the minimum age of conscription from 25 to 18 to make more young men available for combat.
“If this information has surfaced, I can confirm it: American politicians from both parties are putting pressure on President Zelensky to explain why there is no mobilization of those aged 18 to 25 in Ukraine. The argument of our partners is that when the US fought in Vietnam, people were drafted from the age of 19,” Serhiy Leshchenko, an advisor to President Volodymyr Zelensky’s chief of staff, wrote on Telegram.
Back in April, Zelensky signed a bill that lowered the minimum conscription age in Ukraine from 27 to 25. Leshchenko said that Zelensky is resisting the pressure to start conscripting 18-year-olds.
“That’s why the Americans are hinting that Western weapons alone are not enough and that mobilization from the age of 18 is necessary. President Zelensky did not give in and continues to persuade politicians from both parties to provide weapons without changing the draft age,” Leshchenko added.
Right before Zelensky signed the bill lowering the draft age to 25, he received a visit from Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who called for younger Ukrainians to be sent to the frontlines. “I would hope that those eligible to serve in the Ukrainian military would join. I can’t believe it’s at 27,” Graham said. “You’re in a fight for your life, so you should be serving — not at 25 or 27. We need more people in the line.”
In the early days of the war, Graham said Ukraine would be willing to “fight to the last person” as long as the US continued to provide the weapons.
The old men (and women) in the US political powerhouse are urging proxy Ukraine to sacrifice their future generations in the most despicable, desperate way. If they want ugly brutal war on the ground, they should go themselves, or at least send their own children or more likely grandchildren to the slaughterhouse.
They won't go themselves. It is ever thus.
your polish how can you be sayin this about us!
In Poland, even the communists and nazis support us!
Cmon
There are some decent people also in Poland. About 20%.
I love poland
the people are amazing
Ukrainians also were good until Soros, Nuland and other "globalists" took care of them.
oh whadt they do to us??
genuine question
They converted normal human beings into something like you.
Everyone is something. A man with a hole in his heart is looking to fill it. It sounds like you’re filled with some Russian identity. It gives you purpose, provides your life with meaning.
Regardless, small nationalisms aren’t inherently bad. They can just be used to create hatred. But it would be boring if all the world were Russian.
I am not Russian but I am Christian. I am for justice.
OOH
BELARUSIAN!!
MY Belarusian brother!!
Cmon lets be friends – i feel bad for the belarussian people
I feel bad for the pawns who are expendable, like the Ukrainians.
DRINK!
I’m not in Poland. I’m in US.
oh
thatll do it
sorry
sorry, I realize this is kind of confusing. I have Agnieszka as avatar from 1917# twitter event — (day by day recounting of Russia 1917 events). Such a great year long thing, I’m loathe to abandon Agnieszka.
Graham never disappoints with each successive utterance. He remains one of the most disgusting people on the planet.
Why don't you go, Lindsay?
The only way he's leaving Congress is in a pine box, he will hold on to power by his fingernails and to the last breath. I suspect it's the only thing he truly lives for any longer.
He’s surely a true psychopath. It’s like his superpower.
Last months Ukrainian mobilization looks like packs of wolves hunting herds of deers. Younger deers can run faster. It is not so easy to catch and mobilize them. Maybe there are some other reasons, but this looks to be the main one.
where do you get your information mate?
From Ukrainian videos. In modern Ukrainian slang mobilization is called busification. A bus suddenly stops somewhere near supermarket, a gang of mobilizers get out and start hunting men of different age. At that moment all men running away on top of their speed and women are screaming on top of their voice.
and i know modern ukrainian slang… im ukrainian… in ukraine… i promise
okokok
you got me
we do have videos
that we are… hopefully not proud of
The 52 state.
Right. Iraq is #51.
Poor, poor Puerto Rico. "Guys ? I'm standing RIGHT HERE…!"
ooh and guam
and the virgin islands
and the mariana islands
Hey, the Marianas have that awesome trench, they’ll be fine.
Good point
no we will be independent
then start by funding your own war.
As someone who knows what it is to be a teenager under threat of conscription to fight in an unjust war, I would have young Ukrainians know what it is they would be fighting for.
It is not their lives, as this sleazy little pervert says. It is a system of oppression and hegemony that parasitically reduces precious human life to cheap and plentiful material resource. To be expended cavalierly by insular worms such as the Senator from South Carolina to advance his sick, ghoulish agenda.
Well said, brother!
Robert, nicely said!!!!! Right on Bro'. 🙂
because the rus invaded my peaceful country
Why aren't you on the front lines fighting? Is it because you're not a Ukrainian?
http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/draft.html#:~:text=Of%20all%20the%20statist%20violations,is%20an%20abrogation%20of%20rights.
Someone send Graham to the front line. Conscript him like the Ukrainians are being conscripted.
That's a great idea – someone start a campaign to mail Graham's office tens of thousands of Ukrainian draft notices with his name on it.
he could be in the special forces
make him go reallly fast
He was in the REMFer squadron.
and hang him by his feet from the highest tree.
thats mean
People like him are very evil, they are without character, conscience or morals, they are human animals.
You are lucky, your parents were able to fund your American education which I know is not cheap.
It is a war crime to waste young lives for a lost war with no chance to win, a war that was lost on day one and and they knew it unless they are in insane denial. For a cause, never in the interest of the Ukrainian people. It is only in American interests and some upper corrupt elite Ukrainian NAZIS.
no education here is very cheap, 83% of us are college educated
Primarily in the breakaway, independent eastern portions of Ukraine.
my family was not what one would call rich and I got 4 years of college
the state helped, like it should.
*getting
Corrupt is the key word. Killing all ones people is not nationalist. I guess had the US provided aid in a more timely manner, maybe Ukraine had a chance at one time. But Russia would have resorted to nukes had it needed to. Ukraine really never had a chance. Also, Russia fought with two hands behind its back really.
He’s too valuable. It’s the best money we’ve ever spent!! Profit, profit, profit.
May as well, they've got a bunch of 60+ year olds there already. IIRC the average age of Ukrainian front line troops is 47.
Ukraine needs to draft those hiding in universities immediately.
Why should only the poor and unconnected die in a few days on the frontlines?
The US had a similar problem during Vietnam. That is why the lottery system was installed in the American draft system.
Wrong, what Ukraine needs to do is get their AZZ to the negotiating table and promise no Nato membership or foreign troops or equipment on their soil!!!
You’re both right.
Rich Ukrainians pay bribes to avoid conscription.
and can pay to migrate to Europe and USA.
You mean like THIS foreign equipment?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/10/15/for-the-sixth-time-in-eight-months-russian-troops-gathered-for-training-within-range-of-ukraines-best-rockets-and-got-blasted/
Unlikely to happen!
domestic abuse logic
the invader was forced to do what he did
the enemy will never find a victory
and we will join nato after the conflict is over. The invader shall never see their goals realised
Russia was forced to do as it did to protect the Homeland from USA and NATO aggression! They has warned about this red line for many years. NATO will never be in Ukraine no more than Russian nukes were allowed in Cuba many years ago. Deal with it.
proving my domestic abuse logic right
russia needs to suck it up like a big boy, people want to be free and russia is not free. They're just sad that their former constituent countries see the light of the west
absolutely childish of russia
absolutely childish
Sounds like you're specifically referencing a certain Commenter who's ever eager for others to fight Russians in his stead…
yep
death to russia
death to the enemies of ukraine
Ukraine – above everything!
Uber alles ?
no
Všče Novad Uce
Im not a Nazi
no
Všče Ponad Uce
Im not a Nazi
Obviously, you don't know Ukrainian language. Why are you pretending you are Ukrainian?
what are you insinuating
Probably that you work for the Vatican, which was magically able to take over during the Middle Ages and completely change history.
howd you know
what do you mean?
Im pretty sure I know my own language
This your comment has nothing to do with Ukrainian language. Even the letters are wrong. It makes no sense at all in Ukrainian language.
I latinised it.
š represents ш
č represent ч
Together they are the character щ
He said Uber alles, german for above everything, which I them translated into Ukrainian as novad uce, above all/everything as well. I was saying that I am not a Nazi because I said it in Ukrainian. It's a wry joke, I know.
No, in Ukrainian language it sounds like "ponad use". Ukrainian person never would say "novad" instead of "ponad".
Well I, a REAL ukrainian, used novad. I did it poetically from a song I like
Such word doesn't exist in Ukrainian language. What song you are talking about? I suspect you are Zionist-globalist promoting hatred for the hatred's sake.
novad is a word
and i literally have criticised israel
israel is bad right now
i have a feeling you are russian and just dont like ukrainians
surprused that this website is allowed in ruyssia
In what Ukrainian song the word novad was used? Can you write a couple of lines from that song?
so i may have realised i made a…………. mistake
in how i transliterqted it
hhehehe
Not really poetically. I use both of them
I hope I put me being a fake ukrainian to rest
If you're only pretty sure, you don't.
shush
Silence!!!! aka: Shut the ____ Up.
7 months
or 7 and a half
you are a repulsive human
The reference to Vietnam is deadly.
IKR? Zelensky!? You promised!? You said 'till the last Ukrainian. You obviously still have Ukrainians! You are a traitor to Ukraine!
He's planning to be the last Ukrainian. He has an '80s mansion, a nice lady what looks like Michelle Pfeiffer, a mountain of cocaine, an over/under AR-15/M-203, and a worn-down VHS copy of the 1983 documentary film "Scarface".
no HE DOESNT
False.
False
she did support the French economy by spending some ten thousands of $$$ for French fashion cloths on a weekend in Paris. She must have good taste. All while he was begging for more money to continue the slaughter.
Yes, he does. Not nice, but you can believe it, the Zelensky's have lots of company.
Also a villa in Tuscany, condos in London, Miami, and I believe Geneva.
Also in Egypt, and I am sure, in Israel too.
funny how a person who wont say russia is in the wrong is whining about how our leader is a traitor to our country
the "anti war" movement is pathetic on this site
That is based on common sense diplomacy. The Russian concern for border safety was created by hostile "NATO" ACTIONS, the regime change of an elected government, the civil war caused by NATO arming and training a Ukrainian de facto NATO member, including military exercises with NATO near the Russian/Ukraine border. It is called military provocation.
The corrupt Ukrainian neo-Nazis trusted the US/NATO would guaranty to make them win a war with Russia. That was stupid, the US a is deceptive power, they do nothing for free. Normal power politics.
russia needs to suck it up like a big boy
a pathetic destitute weak nation that needs a safe space where theres no scawy enemies
It seems that the Russian body count is increasing to 1400 per day to fight against imaginary Ukrainian Nazis…
the composition of the verkhovna rada is 450 people
according to these people, that means 450 nazis
i love how the furthest right party [in the verkhovna rada] still likes zelenskyy
All political opposition in Ukraine was destroyed after the coup 2014. In Rada they have only such people who are ready to sell out their country to globalists.
not true mate
i'm gonna find your home country one day… im sensing russian who secretly hates putin and fled OR ukrainian who like russia… Do you vote Svoboda?
100% true, regardless of what the defender of the neo-nazi regime supporter, anti-Christian says.
Of course the Verhovna Rada's term expired in August, while Zelinsky's in expired in May, and they refuse to allow new elections.
Get lost you take up 30% of the comments here. If other readers are sick of your thoughts trying to convince Americans to fund your dictatorship, they'll just bypass (skip) over your numerous ridiculous thoughts backing your Regime.
then they can do that; i’m not mandating reading my comments
but they can open a new perspective, one you are sorely lacking
Yes. Those spunky Russian freedom-fighters!
There only a few actual “antiwar” types in this site. A majority (beyond the Putin-puffers with their “daddy-issues”) only concern themselves with being anti-US wars. Russian and Chinese wars are fine because they aren’t “empires”.
The term used for these jaggoffs is “tankies”. (And yes, they hate that moniker!)
russia is quite contradictory
a far right dictatorship fighting against “nazism”
a nation on a war of conquest that opposes imperialism
a country that claims to liberate russians by bombing them
Yes. It is the essence of the fascist playbook:
The Nazis calling their “movement” the National Socialist Party.
American conservatives calling their voter restriction laws names like “voters rights” or anti-abortion laws names like “preservation of life”.
It’s a play-on-words to make their followers feel better about limiting the rights of others.
It works too!
No one who is a citizen, is registered and has proper ID is denied the right to vote in the US/
Unless they were purged from the lists for living in a district that was mostly the "wrong" party, or having a name similar to one that was purged, or any of several other spurious reasons.
Sure – all those Republicans getting purged in that manner – that's how the Dems did it?
Both parties do it, why do you think the US electoral system is fucked up so badly? The Dems tend to hire people who are at least vaguely competent so they don’t get so much attention, while Rethugs go for nepotism and kickbacks so get caught more often. Funny thing though, even when they do get caught, like ChoicePoint, the voters’ rights are not restored afterward they’re always responsible for going through the (often onerous) process of being allowed to vote again. It’s almost as though neither side wants a large voting base that would be difficult to control . . .
Yes. “Proper ID” is the fascist position.
Or should I say the white supremist position?
I’m old enough to remember when “conservatives” pretended to be against the “show us your papers” stuff.
Yeah. That train left the station a while ago.
I guess “conservative” will almost always morph into “fascist” because their ideology is unpopular. People who experience other cultures, ethnicities, mindsets, etc come to appreciate them.
That was before all federal agencies require ID to survive in the US – unless a hermit in the backwoods. And that old defunct Soviet thing about "showing papers" was for travel.
Yes, that was the Clinton era — before the GOP had 25 years of controlling either the presidency or at least one house of Congress and thus the ability to stop those federal agencies in their tracks if that's what it had wanted to do.
Instead, as soon as it got that power, it nearly instantly turned to a "Make America East Germany Again" program.
ID needed to rent, buy, fly, etc
but no ID needed to vote
Is requiring a drivers license, social security, or passport also fascist?
I’m not the one who used the f-word, although it’s worth noting that the main difference between FDR, Churchill, and Stalin on one hand and Hitler, Mussolini, and Tojo on the other is that the former won and the latter lost.
Proper ID is the way to identify a qualified, legal, registered voter. You want anarchy? You have to provide ID to get welfare and many other things so you think it's fascist.
Note: A driver's license is a form of ID. According to you a driver's license is now fascist.
We’ve voted in this country for centuries without “ID”. This is a manufactured issue, created by right-wingnuts to cause OUTRAGE and increased hatred of “ others” that goes back to Jim Crow laws in the South after they got their a**es whipped by the North.
The only recent voter fraud to be found has been done by Republican voters. You can look it up. I’ll wait…
Stankie Pankie talks about tankies (again).
The difference is that we should only be concerned with wars we fund and supply weapons to.
You know, words used to have actual meanings rather than just meaning whatever you want them to. I guess that shows how old I am.
Umm…OK.
Wait!? So, you want to fight ’till the last Ukrainian? …Okay, then. But, is that good Antiwar? …I don’t know. I am confused. Do what you want, brother. It’s your life.
not to the last ukrainian
but “antiwar” is not to be blaming the west for an invasion
Anti war means being against US wars, also often against US involvement in foreign affairs.
If the US were out, then only Russia would be blamed. And maybe then, Ukraine would seek China’s aid, or perhaps Turkey’s.
The US should be fully uninvolved. We can then sell things to all sides as they fight and compete. The way to win war is often to stay out.
so anti war isnt against war, just american war
ok, that makes a lot of things make sens
This is a US website, yes.
The core group here is libertarian/ anarchist. They believe the government should usually stay out.
Plus you have “paleos” and others on the right tagging along and socialists who maybe are more integral.
I don’t really understand Code Pink and Green Party’s Stein, but they seem to be extraordinarily principled, well-intending people.
Max Blumenthal, Consortium News: I don’t understand them, but I do understand that they’re good people.
I do not trust Chomsky, but most of the other antiwar people seem to be legitimately good people, right or wrong. I doubt most serve foreign interests.
oh
im libretarian but definitely market socialist as well
i love the stock market, letting the average joe turn a profit
also normal socialist seems to bleak
i think the state should definitely exist but the people should always have the utmost say
heres my political compass test even
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8376736531f80a0cf091a54640766650c59c7f0be45f2eb11e473d3057a73abd.png
If I created a better test, I’d be bottom right. However, that test doesn’t test me well.
I want to make a different test when I get the chance.
oh
I’m anti managerial and communitarian. I’d make a test on those: cosmo vs comm & man vs anti-man.
what does cosmo stad for
Cosmopolitan
what does that mean in this context?
Individualism/globalism
Communitarian identifies with a particular group. This can be a nation or a small community or a faith. You might add another category. Nation especially goes with it.
The idea isn’t meant to be super rigid. It has some problems, but it works better than alternatives.
I guess socialist is better than communist for the top left label. I haven’t looked at this idea since last year.
Ah
You’d be fascist if man and comm
Communist if man and cosmo
Distributist if anti and comm
Anarchist if anti and cosmo.
pee q arr ess
i did it in english because Ukrainian wasn't a language option 🙁
and i didn't feel like testing my polish skills at 6:00 in the morning as well
How come a cosmopolitian like you is only concerned with Ukraine. Oh wait, that makes sense if your not lying about being Western Ukainian. Likewise what anti-war Americans think of your genocidal actions getting your own people killed, is only a concern because it may result in MAD and because OUR tax dollars (or what they print out of thin air) is going to your dictatorship that overthrew democracy in Ukraine in 2014, and then began killing your own people in eastern Ukraine that didn't like the idea of being governed by a dictatorial regime.
I AM WESTERN UKRAINIAN
if I knew YOUR place of birth and homeland, would you like if I questioned it because you phrased “eastern bloc and western bloc” wrong?
The article was about the Ukrainian draft. Why would he have to say anything about Russia to comment on Zelensky? And maybe you should wait to see if Zelensky caves and listens, once again, to the idiots in our government and does lower the age to 18..
He's just a reality denier who keeps spewing his support for his favorite Regime, e.g., Dictatorship, that is getting his people killed. Evidently he thinks a greatly reduced Ukrainian population will one day enable him to buy real estate at bargain prices.
Fix the sites in your own country instead of trying to be a boss for this website.
i dont try to be boss here
Americans need to leave every other country's kids alone.
So does Russia, so does Ukraine, so does Israel, so does Iran. (etc)
The world doesn't need a new generation of killers motivated by old tired armchair generals, stuck in a rut, unable to consider any alternatives to deadly force.
18 year olds with military training and weapon experience.
Tony Stark : "Not a great plan."
with "no" military training and weapon experience.
On the job training is a KIND of training. Often not a GOOD kind, particularly when bullets are involved.
I agree, I missed the context.
also teenagers, women, senior citizens, and your little dogs too!
– Lindsey Graham
our soldiers have dogs as friends on the frontlines
Not at the frontline if they love their dogs. You don't do to a dog what they do to young and older men, soldiers against their will.
like stray dogs
or dogs they find
No, normal people don't mistreat animals like that either.
you think we are norma;? 😀
Why don’t you go to the front lines?
7 months until cotton burns
???
its a reference in ukraine you can google it
its slang
and if you DO google it make sure to specify "in Belhorod"
it makes a better resultt
….for last resort food, when encircled.
i dont know how to really respond to that claim…. but thats really cool!
Maybe a house will fall on his head.
made me chuckle.
Surprised no one named Lindsey Graham has suggested that the US condition the next shipment of weapons on Ukraine lowering their draft age to 18.
I really don't get it, when conscription was the law 18 – 45 was the draft age with student exemptions. 27 year minimum draft age, if I understand it correctly, is puzzling. What did I miss?
BTW, Lindsey Graham and many others are little criminal Eichmann. We know what happened to him, I hope for the same for Graham and his cahoots.
To use Ukrainian men for no other reason than cannonfodder on top of the annihilation of their country is an indescribable war crime, a record in human history.
The US and others edge the line steadily closer to Child Soldiers. Funny that 18 y/o's "can't be trusted" with alcohol or voting or rental cars in the USA, but Hey Here's A Pile Of High Tech Weapons (just try not to use them in high schools) in Ukraine.
You beat me to it.
Typically I’m the classic Day Late & Dollar Short.
I beat all of you
That is true too, you are a busy student.
yup[
i have to do this late in the night or evening
We like the give and take from different perspectives. I hope you do too, it is a lot of food for thought.
even if its an unpopular opinion?
I respect other people's opinion whether I agree with it or not.
Opinion= An opinion is a judgement, viewpoint, or statement that is not conclusive, as opposed to facts, which are true statements. A given opinion may deal with subjective matters in which there is no conclusion.
so… i give food for thought? wow
I think I hold that record, I beat you to that one.
only by seconds
The voting age in the United States is 18 under the 26th Amendment of the Constitution.
True, since the end of Vietnam.
Carp, you’re right, my bad. I’m getting numbers mixed up thinking of drinking age (18 in Alberta, 19 in BC, 21 in Washington State, and I think 14.5 in Newfound-land)
In the US the draft age was 18 because it was after HS and before the consenting adult age of 21 of course with rich kids college exemptions.
(maybe it was the end of child labor age?) Because of the exemption issue congress and LBJ invented the draft lottery including college students and they also lowered the age of consent to 18, you are young enough to die for your country but not old enough to vote, was part of the political problem. I remember it well.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20241015/unique-russia-north-korea-pact-can-cool-pentagon-hotheads-stabilize-east-asia-heres-how-1120562604.html
That's great! Now, the war can go forward and lots more arms can be sold. The only loss is a bunch of people who don't matter to the ones interested in perpetuating this insanely stupid war. Their only interest is fattening their portfolio of armaments industry stocks. Meanwhile, the stooge in Kiev keeps siphoning his cut and readying for the day he has to skip town. The lunatics are running the asylum.
RUSSIA invaded us
We didn't invade them
RUSSIA invaded… US
Russia did not invade, it was a preemptive move and common sense would have understood and would have taken the hand Putin offered, neutrality and prosperity similar to Austria.
But the Ukrainian corrupt leadership was in bed with Biden and trusted him, now get payback for trusting Americans, as they and Putin and the Germans learned the hard way, when the Americans blew up the NS pipeline and the German and EU economy with it.
Who needs enemies with friends like that?
And you should get out of your coma, open your eyes, face reality not dreams, you can get killed if you don't.
WAIT
I JUST REALISED
YOU LITERALY SAID RUSSIA DID NOT INVADE
WAS FEB. 24TH JUST A DREAM
HSHAHAHAAZXAXAXAXXAXAXAXAXAX
Russia did not invade Ukraine, what they did was a preventive military operation and a warning to Biden and Zelensky. We tend to overlook the fact that the "diplomatic exchange Dec. 2021 " was with Biden, the demented American President Biden, not Zelensky, he was not in charge, he did as told.
Not to forget, Biden was involved in Ukraine going back to the regime change 2014 when he was Obama's VP. He was familiar with Ukraine and NATO issues.
would WE actually be in the state to invade NATO?
Pretty sure it was invasion.
Ukraine became a DE FACTO NATO MEMBER when NATO armed and trained the Ukrainian military and participated in military NATO exercises on Ukrainian territory bordering Russia after the 2014 regime change. It started the Ukrainian civil war and was provoking, aka aggression Russia. It is documented history that it is Biden’s and NOT Putin’s war.
putin has no right to dictate our foreign policy
Putin did not dictate Ukrainian foreign policy, Russia offered the Ukrainians a golden opportunity, it was the Americans and Biden who dictated Ukrainian foreign policy. With the regime change Ukraine lost its sovereignty, Nuland picked the Yanukovych successor, not the Ukrainian people, that is what Russian speaking people could not accept and a civil war started immediately. Some 14 000 people lost their lives in the 8 years it lasted. Zelensky promised peace to get elected, but what did he do? He broke his campaign promise and dumped the Minsk peace agreements. He is the paid American stooge.
we WANTED to join nato and eu
Wrong, you were told you want it. There was no referendum no public debate, no more than in Sweden and Finland. Don’t underestimate the deceptive Americans and how they operate. W. Bush was the one to bring up the NATO issue in 2008, all of Europe opposed it because it would provoke Russia based on history. Napoleon and Hitler used Ukraine to invade Russia and now the USA is the threat to Russia. BTW the USA kept troops in Russia for some 5 years after WW I, at no time did Russia invade France or Germany.
do you live in Russja?
*russia
*rosija
i cant spell today
My post is blocked and waiting for approval. Censure is normal now, I found out.
oh darn
This is a part of it. it was, it too has to wait if ever,
No,* I don't.* I lived in Europe most of my life and have a European education.* I do know Russian people and did know Russian Jews in Europe and Hungarians and other cultures too.*
This is a part of it.
let's see what happens.
It’s not that hard to figure out. When you use a particular word that frequently appears in guidelines-violating content, it will be held for moderation until a human can look it and make sure you aren’t flooding the site with Stormfront crap. It’s been that way since long before you started commenting here.
Thanks Thomas, I did take note.
A list of at least some of the violating words would be nice.
Thomas, I could not find a single violating word by my standards. There is no such thing as a hateful or four letter word. To violate in this form is really overkill. Thomas, no offense to you. I am nosy by nature.
It is all the fault of a very lousy algorithm and I believe that. And you told me that before. I forgot, getting older makes you forgetful.
Lousy algorithms are created by lousy people.
Now, I did not say that, you did. LOL
I will post this, it will shortly automatically get moved to moderation, then I will approve it:
If you use the word “Jew” in a comment, it will be held in moderation. There are other words too, but that’s usually the biggest one.
The reason comments with that word are held for moderation automatically is that we periodically get flooded by comments from Stormfront types. It used to happen quite often. It still happens every few weeks.
Is the word Arab or Muslim held for moderation too?
Nope.
The list of words that are held changes based on conditions. So far as I can recall, “Arab” has never been on it, and “Muslim” has been temporarily on it a few times when we started seeing Islamophobic crap in large, clearly coordinated, quantities.
That I do understand. I don't use the word you mentioned, it is meaningless to me, a religious definition. But it is good to know, I think I will remember it.
Just to let you know, there are no bad feelings because of that, just normal business as usual. Thanks a lot.
I will post this, it will shortly automatically get moved to moderation, then I will approve it:
If you use the word “Jew” in a comment, it will be held in moderation. There are other words too, but that’s usually the biggest one.
The reason comments with that word are held for moderation automatically is that we periodically get flooded by comments from Stormfront types. It used to happen quite often. It still happens every few weeks.
Sorry, I went back to check, I did use that particular word next to Russian.
It did not register with me.
I will post this, it will shortly automatically get moved to moderation, then I will approve it:
If you use the word “Jew” in a comment, it will be held in moderation. There are other words too, but that’s usually the biggest one.
The reason comments with that word are held for moderation automatically is that we periodically get flooded by comments from Stormfront types. It used to happen quite often. It still happens every few weeks.
No, I don't. I lived in Europe most of my life and have a European education. I do know Russian people and did know Russian Jews in Europe and Hungarians and other cultures too.
All want what we want, peace and life with dignity. The power hungry elites are causing wars and suffering.
Babies are not born evil but they can be manipulated to become evil adults.
The young IDF in Gaza soldiers are an example, they were not born that evil, they were raised to be evil. In that sense I feel sorry for them.
Freedom and self-determination for the ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
the whole 20 percent of them
theres more mexicans in your southwest and they arent whining for more rights
No the majority of the people of Ukraine that won the last free and fair ELECTION of all of the former UKraine = the whole majority of Ukrainians, not your fictional 20%
huh
duh – clean the cobwebs out of your mind.
my bad
Your Ukraine is governed by a dictatorship.
your america is governed by an idiot and will be after november as welll
stop distracting yourself with us
It's more like to send more young men into body bags….!
Is Vila in trouble…?!
7 months
then ill go on an adventure to hopefully make some "cotton" burn in Belgorod
More likely your parents will come to you in the USA.
Ukraine has lost, it is in ruins, the corrupt officials with money will disappear to Europe or the USA and will FIRST destroy what is left of Ukraine.
IM NOT IN THE USA THOUGH IM IN LVIV
AND i WILl make "cotton" burn in belhorod
You are in occupied territory that belongs to Poland.
LOL
THERES NO POLES HERE
i’ll admit, mate, I LOVE Polish people and their culture, but theres none of them here!
Please realise blatant truths!
Of course not, when your Uncle Joe gave portions of Poland to Soviet Ukraine, they obviously ethnically cleansed them.
So all of your electricity wires are now underground?
And yet, Russian bodies and equipment litter the battlefield from Toretsk to Kursk.
Russians have to import meat from North Korea and Syria to continue with their WWII tactics. Their “best” fighter jets are vulnerable to US Patriots and F-16s. Russia is now the lead pariah in the world. KING OF THE DIPSHITS!
How the “mighty” have fallen. The remnants of the Soviet Union deteriorate like the rusted monuments they erected.
The United States WILL stand with Ukraine and the oppressed throughout the world. (Yes. The US makes mistakes and sometimes leave to decisions to the capitalists but the PEOPLE of the US — dependents of rebels themselves — know what to do.)
“The Americans alway do the right thing, after they’ve tried everything else!” — Winston Churchill
Oh really, then why are we arming the Ukrainian Dictatorship and apartheid, genocidal Israel?
Churchill was responsible for debacle at Gallipoli in 1915. He was personally responsible for imploding the British Empire.
Israel and Gaza are a different issue. The rest of what you wrote is incorrect (except for Galipoli).
nyuh?
Ukraine already is on the block, up for sale. Blackrock has already made claims for the day after. The same happened to Russia after the wall fell. Big money took the cream of the cake while the Russian people were starving. Prof, Jeffrey Sachs was there and knows what happened.
SHUT UP
THE RUSSIANS DID THIS TO ME
That's what Soros installed into your head. You may still find and watch 20 years old videos from Ukrainian schools where teachers madе schoolchildren jump and cry: "Кто не скачет тот москаль" (Who doesn't jump he is Russian).
yeah my teacher did that once
you'd bet I was up in the air at light speed
we were very united on the russia issue in all my schools… it was the best
we just bullied russia for half an hour sometimes
That’s not really a big deal…
The big deal is just that war broke out.
No war happened without reason. In Ukrainian case it happened because the corrupted elite allowed Soros and other "globalists" to take care of the younger generation. In 25 years they created a new generation of Nazis. They tried the same trick in other new created countries. Most successful they were in Baltic republics, Poland and Ukraine. In other republics it didn't worked so well. For example Georgia is distancing itself from U.S. and returning to Christianity. At the moment Georgia is divided but the majority is definitely for Christian values. Moldova is somewhat 50-50. Armenia is firm under the globalists.
"globalist" apparently just means seeking freedom from the rus empire
armenia got invaded last year if you would remember in a blitz by Azərbaycan, which ended up causing a refugee crisis of around half a million people who had to flee their homes from the advancing azerbaijani army
Darn globalists (sarc)!!
Armenia never was invaded. Karabah is a part of Azerbaijan. Armenian leadership itself confirmed that Karabah belongs to Azerbaijan. Karabah Armenians were betrayed by pro-globalist Armenian government.
always "betrayal"
always the fö "caring about the people"
Pashinyan himself confirmed that Karabah is a part of Azerbaijan. He did it not only for pleasing the globalists but also because Armenians of Karabah never supported him and accused him of betrayal even before the last military escalation.
does some angry armenians make it any less of an invasion>
of course not
thats very slippery slope territory
Once enough of the male Ukrainians are killed or disabled, corporate vultures will descend on rump Ukraine and devour whatever is profitable.
The warmongers in Washington DC are pressuring actor Zelensky to have all Ukrainian young men to be killed.
Later on, they are going to reinstate the draft in the US and have all young Americans killed in their permanent world war.
I think the US will go down with Ukraine and Israel. Good so, but the people who did it will go away scot-free and the people are left to pay the bill.
we are like palestine not israel
a ukraine-israel comparison is like a russia-palestine comparison
the aggressor and the victim are in different worlds
Not at all.
how
It's amazing that serial killers can go away scot-free and the people are left to pay the bills.
It's how much our times are corrupt.
My feeling is that will end very badly.
So much for freedom of speech.
Yup
ts quite unfortunate
The main point. I lived most of my life in Europe, have a European education, have met people from many countries and cultures and all only want to live in peace and comfortable life with their families. That is not too much to wish for, it is possible, European social democratic societies came close to that goal. Neo-liberal economics don't deliver as promised for many, homelessness, poverty is just a paycheck away for many.
China and Russia are pretty successful with mixed economies similar to the European social democratic way.
Guess what, they approved my original response.
i love the free market but i also think communism is disgusting… so i am a libretarian market socialist
freedom to the people and less government under socialism,
Socialism and Communism is like Catholics and Protestants. Nations will select the parts that suits them and their own culture best. We are being manipulated to believe that capitalism is best. It fails in many ways, it has good and bad parts too. The USA has free market for profit expensive health care, which delivers the least for the most money. Many people must file for personal bankruptcy due to medical bills, a college education is expensive and it can take years to pay off student loans. In socialistic societies higher education is free as long as you qualify and do your studies. There is much more. Capitalism is cut throat business. Socialism humanized Capitalism to some extent. I think neoliberal economics are disgusting without modifiers like unions and strong labor laws.
The USA has all the shortcomings of neoliberal economics, Capitalism pure, on display.
yeah but socialism is better because since its a democracy its harder to.. turn into a dictatorship like ussr and china or even more successful socialist countries like vietnam
You picked a complex issue. Ukraine is a good example. It had a left leaning elected government, but had a bloody regime change and is now all but a democracy in ruin. The US neocons annihilated Ukraine to get what they want. Biden insisted on fighting until the last Ukrainian, Russia offered neutrality and prosperity and peace. Biden forced Zelensky to keep the slaughter going, he could because no American life was sacrificed only the UKRAINIAN and RUSSIAN men were slaughtered. Slaughtered for private American profit. Big money took over. The American interests are limited to a regime change to their liking and control, like a Navalny delivering a broken RF and the natural resources to the control of private American energy corporations. For the same reason as they did the regime change in Iran against the elected PM Mossadegh 1953 who had dared to privatize the Iranian oil resources. The USA is only a successful capitalistic economy if they can be the hegemon in control of the global resources, finances, and economies. The power struggle to be the richest nation on the planet. They want trillionaires, not billionaires. That is the only value they know. Poverty and homelessness of the people means nothing to them, they want to own the world.
but we don’t want neutrality… we want to be with the west, and russia is in no place to control our foreign policy. russia is the enemy, it invaded us, it bombed us, it r*ped us. America and Russia are both empires bent on world domination, but at least America is democratic.And Navalny was a great man. He was one of my heroes. After Euromaidan, we were still a democracy. We still had elections, But Yanukovych was a horrible leader.
Of course, I will not convince you that I am right. If anyone short of God told you that Russia were in fact the bad guys, you would just devalue the claim. And that is ok. Humans want to be right, and we think we are right. However, of course, debate is still very important and that is why I came to this website in the 1st place, knowing my opinions would be in the minority.
Half of your "we" wanted to be with the West. That's why the democracy was overthrown and that's why the Regime began killing their own people in the East.
more than half
Well then why did the Eastern blocs of voters in the Ukraine win the last free and fair election of all of the former Ukraine?
what eastern blocs of voters?
what are you referring hereto?
For someone claiming to be Ukrainian, you are displaying a fair amount of ignorance on what the election results were for the western and eastern portion of Ukraine, when it was still a democracy and before being overthrown by neonazi mobs.
oh
you didnt say that
and when this happened I was in grade school mate
the west voted more nationalist and the east voted more russian (i presume you’re saying)
i was a kidd
You are a college student and in 2014 you most likely were a grade school kid, barely a teen. You did not really experience the history of the coup and the civil war that followed including a de facto Ukrainian NATO membership. That may explain why you have to ask.
yeah
i still liked politics back then though but not as much
I do understand that, as one gets older more knowledge of history and life shapes the mind too. Young people are very idealistic and will become more realistic with more life experience.
my mum said I’m idealistic for being libsoc but SHE is the one who votes svoboda
it was a mistake calling *her* idealistic
She is entitled to make her mistakes, she is human too.
As little as I know of Svoboda it is a nationalistic party. Nationalism means different things to different people.
Patriotism is love for once homeland, the good and the bad of it, nationalism is narcissism and the hubris that comes with it, as I understand it.
svoboda are really funny people
like nazis but they support zelenskyy… (…)
Funny or stupid, or manipulated minds? Zelenskyy sold his nation, but he has lots of company. The Avro-neo-Nazis in bed with the neocons in US made it possible. Remember 2014, when you were a kid, it is now history. I am convinced that the CIA is the big player in NATO nations in Europe and corruption is a big part of it. Big corporate money their lobbyists rule the USA.
It is not always what you want, it is a question of what is best. A small nation is not well served provoking a bigger neighbor, for Ukraine neutrality would be the best thing that could happen, compare that with what really happened. Look at Austria. The deceptive friends in US will drop Ukraine like a hot potato after the election.
I don't want to be right, in politics when peace or war are at stake you stick to reality, what is best for you. A dwarf needs to use the brain telling him not to pick a fight with the giant. That is what Ukrainians did not do.
if provoking russia means wanting to join russia then russia is oversensitiv
Russia wanted a secure border against NATO and autonomy for the Russian speaking Ukrainians, nothing else. That is documented history, all else are lies.
we could give autonomy to them, we would probably end up having to anyways due to some EU requirements
I actually would have liked givng the russians autonomy
of course, we’d need an alternate universe to see if that stopped the horde from invading.
You will never know if you don’t try it. You admit based on your post, this war debacle was entirely avoidable. There was good will on both sides, Russia and Ukraine. The USA is the troublemaker, Biden wanted regime change in Moscow and a weekend RF. You confirm the right of autonomy for the Russian speaking Ukrainians, all that was settled in the Minsk agreements which the Americans NEVER SUPPORTED, that is why Zelensky tossed in the trash bin and in March 2022 pulled it out again and Boris Johnson came all the way from London to tell him that BIDEN SAID NO. That too is documented history.
That is why my conclusion is that the USA is the ENEMY of Ukraine, Russia and Europe, really a global danger. There will always be regional conflicts, but the USA wants control of all the globe, the US is ruled by megalomaniacs, they want it all.
so can we still be with europe but not america in your framework
As a neutral nation Ukraine could dance with any partner.
Yes, you could be with Europe and Russia, why not? Why shed the inheritance of Russian culture, be proud of it. In Switzerland they speak 3 languages, and all are proud of their nationalities. The Ukrainians West and East married and raised families together. The demonized Putin has shown all respect possible for that. Build on that if you really love your country, be a patriot, not a nationalist.
well in Switzerland the french minority arent telling the german majority what to do and how to do it
They all are represented in the elected government including the Italian Swiss people, their autonomy is protected. Also the nations neutrality and geography allowed the nation to prosper. They share borders with several bigger nations, France, Germany, Austria, Italy and little Lichtenstein and Monaco. It works, where there is a will there is a way!
For Biden and Zelenskyy and co. to refuse to negotiate with Putin is about as crazy as it gets. It is proof that they don’t care about their people, they value wealth and power only.
We don't know how it all will end. One possibility the USA will become just another big power, it is a big and wealthy country. The USA will have to learn to live and respect the needs of other nations, but would the Ukrainians want it, would they trust the Americans?
and we didnt pick a fight lol
the russians chose to invade us
Christian, I hate to tell you this, but it looks to me like Biden is DROPPING Zelensky and Ukraine like a HOT POTATO now, before the election. Ramstein has been cancelled, Zelensky gets no more funding and the demented Biden will pick up some sort of a medal in Berlin this week. All of that, in my opinion, to safe the Harris election.
That is what happens when the inmates are ruling the asylum. Zelensky and Ukraine are toast, don't blame Putin, the demented Biden did it, he blocked each and every chance of a negotiated settlement, even when Zelensky was ready and his people had initialed an agreement already. They broke their words on orders of a demented Biden or who ever controls Biden.
ramstein was cancelled due to the hurricanes, its being rescheduled
What did the hurricanes have to do with Ramstein? You can find Ramstein on the map, no orkan or hurricane in sight. Biden can make it to Berlin why not Ramstein which is close to Paris and Zelensky has been traveling all over Europe and was not really welcome.
That is nothing but PR talk, aka propaganda.
China has a government that works. Remember, it is a nation of 1.5 billion people, could a democratic government function? The Chinese govern themselves based on their history and culture and how they do it is non of our business. We have our own way too. There is no functioning group of people without rules and regulations, no business without contracts and agreements and business and labor laws. We can't do without GOOD and functioning healthy government. It has to be big enough to function. All else is BS.
do you still live in europe?
No, but my family does and old friends.
Nice
So, I’ll now explain freedom of speech to you because you consistently expose yourself as uneducated and childishly limited in your abilities to critically think.
Freedom-of-Speech (as it is represented in the US Constitution) protects citizens from PROSECUTON by the government for something they say, write, post, etc.
As anyone who’s ever been fired by a company for something they said knows, that constitutional protection does not extend to the private sector.
Now go back to your mobile home and allow the adults to talk.
Thanks for the enlightenment, the first is a bit abstract and getting older it takes a little longer to sink in.
But how do you know when you cross the redline possibly facing prosecution? As you know the law can be interpreted pretty flexible. I 'll have to think a little about that in the privacy of my cozy little mobile home.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/10/15/portage-county-ohio-sheriff-voting/
This is a pretty good example of a “government official” violating a citizen’s constitutional rights.
Russia tries over and over to negotiate a Peace Deal with Zionist Zelensky and USA/NATO say NO deal. Hamas/Hezbollah agreed to a DEAL , a Cease Fire, which was rejected by the Zionist Biden Administration because the Nazi/Zionist Netanyahu said NO. So who does not want Peace? Who has no respect for human life? Who wants WW111 to start ASAP? The enemy is not who our Government tells us, the enemy is whoever refuses to make peace. Graham doesn't suggest stopping the Ukraine War, just wants younger men to DIE and for who? Zionist in Ukraine are committing Genocide of Ukrainians, while the Zionist in Israel are committing Genocide of Palestinians and now the Lebanese. The problem is ZIONIST, the Rep/Dem Zionist who are destroying our Republic, who no longer uphold our Constitution. Vote them OUT!
cope harder 😀
sad to see the "antiwar" movement spewing this anti ukrainian stupidity… i could die every night and you are too busy whining about the west "provoking" russia
Christian, the people are not anti Ukrainian. There is a big distinction between the people and the ruling elite. It was the ruling elite in Washington and Kiev who are ready to annihilate Ukraine. They want Ukrainians to die for a regime change in Moscow and a weakened RF in order to control the Russian resources. American people are losing too, their hard earned money is being used to destroy the Ukraine and Russia while here at home the infrastructure is in rubble bridges are collapsing, no funding for real education, lack of public transportation and health care and homelessness, and more all to spend money to annihilate Ukraine.
Common sense tells you that Ukraine never had a chance to win a war against Russia, and without the Biden neocons common sense would have won and the avoidable war would not have happened.
We are governed by criminal elements, not people who care about their own nation much less other nations. The greedy American elite without a moral compass is the real enemy of all of us.
ok but russia is still a repugnant nation and has a horrible leader more hellbent on destroying us than the west right?
Putin is a sane politician, a Russian patriot, a man of the people. Our ruling class needs to demonize Putin to justify their actions.
Judge him by what he did and what he says not what our narcissistic elite wants us to believe. I don't know the man, but I respect him and his accomplishments, he lifted the Russian people up and put food on the table for them when Yeltsin allowed the rich western and Russian oligarchs to blunder Russia. He reduced the corruption and the people reelect him because he cared about them.
Do a little research, you may be surprised, Putin is a real statesman and respected. We have a demented president and don't really know who is really in charge in Washington.
The Russian people have suffered a lot, they have a great culture including music and literature, they are educated people, they are a great nation. And the Anglo Saxon do all they can to prevent Germany and Russia to be on friendly terms. Keep an open mind. There is a lot of propaganda out there to manipulate you.
irreconcilable differences between us
it ended with "putin is… sane…"
The Russians don’t care about the west, they want o be left alone, and are not hell bent to destroy the West, they want to visit us and trade with us. Everyone I know who visited Russia tells the same.
They greet visitors with open arms. Putin never called another head of state names like Biden calling Putin a killer. Putin is a man with character and curtesy, not a bully like Biden or stupid Boris Johnson and our diplomats with no diplomatic manners. When Putin gives his word he keeps it, not our leaders, they show no manners and are deceptive, they can’t be trusted.
What is repugnant about the Russian people?
They have some bad apples and so do we.
“The people” and “the state” are two entirely different things. The latter loves to be conflated with the “the nation,” but “nation” is a pretty fuzzy concept and is not coterminous with “state.”
Our government is our enemy. To vote for any of them is to be complicit in war crimes of the political elite. Trump and Harris will continue the Biden policies, both are ready to keep up the slaughter of Ukrainians and Russians until after the election after which they will throw the Ukraine under the bus to take care of the war against Iran with Netanyahu.
yup its pathetic of fascists
and why havent you been commenting as much it gets lonely against everyone else 🙁
Hahaha. Sorry about that.
I have been on vacation a few weeks at a time; it’s also nice to get away from these tankies every now and then!
Autumn is here and the Ukes are bloodying Russian noses so I’ll be more frequent with my comments.
You keep up the good work.
Slava Ukraini!
Oh nice
And thank you
7 months until cotton will burn in Belhorod…
??? The Ukrainians are losing territory daily, have lost several strategic locations just in the last week, and when Pokrovsk falls there's nothing west of there but open fields. Even the Zaporozhye front has woken up.
we are loosing 0.001% percent of our territory daily.
winning!
OK, jaggoff. What are these “strategic locations” you mention?
Please, don't demonstrate your ignorance and stupidity so often.
Awww…can’t produce? That seems sad for you. How about this? The f**king Russian animals who murdered Ukrainian prisoners are being “taken care of”:
https://x.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1846559989109870969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1846559989109870969%7Ctwgr%5Ea41263e14ab42d97510a07c4fbb3bb1488aa1683%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2024%2F10%2F16%2F2277075%2F-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Ukraine-reports-destroying-a-Russian-regiment
Ostrovske, Levadne, Chasiv Yar, Ugledar, probably Toretsk by now.
And get back to me when they actually capture all of those towns.
Stankie in his current mode, using the term tankie.
Maybe he doesn't want to start a mob mentality siding with you?
Ah, and the right knows all about mob mantality!
Burn any crosses lately, JimBob?
he does tha every day… its pagan christianity
Watch this with honor:
https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1846563982695432644?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1846563982695432644%7Ctwgr%5Ea41263e14ab42d97510a07c4fbb3bb1488aa1683%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstories%2F2024%2F10%2F16%2F2277075%2F-Russian-stuff-blowing-up-Ukraine-reports-destroying-a-Russian-regiment
That was a hobby of your ancestral Democrat southern good ol' boys. That's why they are so fake in the 21st century; they've never overcome their racism.
So, you think it’s the same party it was back then? How are the Whigs doing these days, you f**king idiot?
funny how a communist/rightist is talking about mob mentality
hard to tell the difference between the two… horseshoe theory is real folks
Weird how a nazi endorsing western ukrainian is continually blowing smoke on this website.
US politicians should go to Ukraine and fight Russia instead of ranting…!
It is a metaphor for April 1945 in Kiev and Voldemort is as delusional as old Adolf.
OMG you could not make this shit up
289 comments. oh hey my stupid words here make 290 comments.
you could not make this sh*t up..
Rumpelstiltskin also offered gold in exchange for the first born son.