Egypt is building an 8-square-mile walled enclosure in the Sinai Desert near Gaza to prepare for an influx of Palestinian refugees as Israel is vowing to launch an assault on Rafah, which borders Egypt and is packed with about 1.5 million Palestinians.
The revelation of Egypt’s construction, which was reported by The Wall Street Journal and an Egyptian rights group, signals Cairo is caving to Israeli pressure to allow Palestinians to enter its territory.
Egyptian officials told the Journal that more than 100,000 people would be able to fit into the camps they are constructing. If a mass exodus of Palestinians from Gaza does happen, the Egyptian officials said they want to limit the number of refugees they allow in to between 50,000 and 60,000.
The Sinai Foundation for Human Rights first reported on the construction on Wednesday and said the project is expected to be completed within 10 days. Egyptian officials told the Journal they expect a broad Israeli offensive on Rafah could start “within weeks.” Israel must be aware of the construction and will likely try to push as many Palestinians into the camp as it can.
Israeli government officials have not been shy about their desire to cleanse the Gaza Strip of its Palestinian population and re-establish Jewish settlements. A document prepared by Israel’s Intelligence Ministry that was leaked back in October said the best-case scenario for Israel would be to send all 2.3 million Palestinians living in Gaza into Egypt.
But Cairo’s opposition to the plan caused Israeli officials to look elsewhere and suggest Western countries take in Palestinian refugees. According to Israeli media, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu previously said he was looking for countries to “absorb” Palestinians, but he’s cooled the rhetoric since the Biden administration criticized other Israeli ministers for making similar comments.
Egypt now complicit in ethnic cleansing too. Imagine if Hitler had as many sycophants.
Egypt is a captive of the US and Israel. The billions of US dollars it gets every year are dependent on its compliance with the provisions of the treaty that emerged from the Camp David Accords and are essential to its very shaky internal stability.
Also, it appears that Israel is perfectly willing to continue the already-ongoing genocide, leaving its neighbors, especially Egypt, with the choice of being complicit in ethnic cleansing or preventing the escape of the victims of that genocide.
In your world of “genocide” preventing the escape of victims makes Egypt complicit.
It seems pretty clear to most of us here that the genocide world is yours, Tim. You are on the wrong side of history and simple decency.
I do think Egypt should permit the Gazans to escape into the Sinai. I understand why it doesn’t, but I think it should.
Yes preventing victims to escape is complicity in genocide!!!!!!!!!!’
Hamas is the child of the Moslem Brotherhood-Egypt does not want those extremists in their own country
So you admit a genocide is taking place?
Do you not understand why the word “genocide” was in quotes?
I understand that you are in denial about the ethnic cleansing and genocide currently taking place. If not in denial then you are even more vile in that you fully support it.
Not at all.
Your commenting with the wrong sock puppet you dumbass. Hard to keep all your hasbara sock puppets straight, is it?
Escape? How quaint. More like driven.
And we will pay now for all the accommodations. Israel snaps fingers, and we jump making sure it is high enough. Do not feel like paying for problems others create.
The ICJ is doing jack.
The ICJ is doing what the ICJ was established for and is intended to do. Continuing to complain that it isn’t having the effect you want it to have is pointless.
Here’s a better comment than mine:
The ICJ pulls a major kangaroo court move. Still does not order Israel to halt military ops.
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/192/192-20240216-pre-01-00-en.pdf
“The Court notes that the most recent developments in the Gaza Strip, and in Rafah in particular, ‘would exponentially increase what is already a humanitarian nightmare with untold regional consequences’, as stated by the United Nations Secretary-General (Remarks to the General Assembly on priorities for 2024 (7 Feb. 2024)).
This perilous situation demands immediate and effective implementation of the provisional measures indicated by the Court in its Order of 26 January 2024, which are applicable throughout the Gaza Strip, including in Rafah, and does not demand the indication of additional provisional measures.
The Court emphasizes that the State of Israel remains bound to fully comply with its obligations under the Genocide Convention and with the said Order, including by ensuring the safety and security of the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.”
Posted by: pq | Feb 16 2024 21:06 utc | 60
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/02/nasrallah-responds-to-israeli-attack-on-civilians-in-lebanon.html#comments
The MoA link doesn’t appear to relate to the latest from the ICJ.
The term “kangaroo court” has nothing to do with this case.
The latest from the ICJ is consistent with its earlier findings and order. For Israel to comply would effectively mean a unilateral ceasefire and there’s no reason to think that Israel would comply with an order worded differently.
Again: The ICJ is doing what international courts do. It has already issued a stunning ruling in finding that it is plausible that Israel is engaged in genocide and it is very likely that its final order, when it comes, will confirm that Israel is in fact guilty of genocide. That’s huge.
The court could do no more than it has done and is doing. It is the US, its Western allies, and the cowed and compromised rulers of the Middle East who could and should bring the slaughter to a screeching halt.
https://twitter.com/MollyQuell/status/1758580075992137801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1758580075992137801%7Ctwgr%5E6b1ccac616d5e6a3cbdd1251d355517fa88f9796%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.commondreams.org%2Fnews%2Frafah-gaza
Explained that it isn’t doing jack in spite of the defenses of its mission. Whether it has the power or not to intercede, the result is the same.
And al-Sisi, like Zelinsky, is a creature of Zionazi Washington placed at the head of an ikkegal gov’t.
Actually-Hamas is a child of the Brotherhood,which had strong Nazi links,and is opposed by al-sSi. Zelinsky is trying to make some megabucks.
al-Qtub was a Marxist, the Nazi link one of convenience to rid themselves of the Brits.
So?
Should have sent military into Gaza to build provisional housing there.’, feed people,. And not alliw for war essentially move into its territory. Now Israel will say — guaranteed — that Hamas us ooerating in those tents and mive in to tae part of Sinai.
We let it go for years. We knew what was going on. Business has to go on. Hitler was Time Man of the Year. Prescott Bush did business with Germany almost to the day we got involved in WWII, the war Russia had already been fighting in the East, eventually losing 20,000,000 souls.
duh-remember how Stalin made a pact with Hitler and took half of Poland, and murdered 20,000 potential Polish leaders in a woods. Oh,what about the 20 million people Stalin murdered on HIS own.
Yep Stalin was in many ways a bigger war criminal than Hitler. He was also our ally. Ever heard of “Uncle Joe.”
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/aa/68/03/aa680302aeb876aa590e86a4bb83ef77.jpg
So you can’t have it both ways. You can’t criticize the Stalin for signing a non-aggression pact with Hitler and then leave out the USA ect. from forming an alliance with Stalin. I’m not saying either is beyond criticism, just that your selective criticism belies a propaganda angle and not an objective viewpoint.
An ally of convenience-the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The allies despised each other,but Germany was the threat of the time.
I see. So it’s ok when we do it, but if anyone else does it we can condemn them for it. Got it. You totally missed the point and then proved my point with your asinine comment.
It wasn’t Russia that lost 20 million souls, it was the Soviet Union.
And yes, it had been fighting that war for some time before the US got involved. Mostly on the same side as Hitler.
We don’t know how many people in the Soviet Union died in the war; estimates begin around 20 million and range up to 40 million. 30 million seems plausible. The majority were Russian, not surprising because they were the largest group to begin with but also because they actually opposed the Nazis & allied fascists, the political expression of the Catholic right in Europe. Not sure what you mean by the USSR being on the same side as Hitler; if you mean there were volunteer SS divisions of Ukrainians and Baltic populations, then sure but that’s certainly not the state on the same side as Hitler. The USSR fought 75% of the Nazi war machine in Europe and did so for 6 years, much of that on their own territory. Few Russians don’t have family killed, which is a reason it’s common for weddings even now in 2024 to have the bride stop to honor the dead at an eternal flame, and why Russians have annual marches commemorating the end of what they call the Great Patriotic War, carrying photos of their slain ancestors. If you’re referencing the non-aggression pact, as people often do in a non-contextual manner, it turns out most of Europe signed non-aggression pacts with Germany, in an attempt not to have to deal with aggression from Germany, but this is the only one anybody ever brings up. You’d think perhaps at some point someone could tip the hat to
defeating the Nazis and liberating most of the concentration camps, but
this is still a bridge too far for most Americans. My Polish (Catholic) family incidentally was driven from their homes in what was briefly then the SS-adminstrated puppet state of Galizien (Galicia), now the part of Ukraine where Bandera statues are erected with US taxpayer funds.
… and all the while Stalin knew before, during and after the USSR defeat of the fascists that their ‘allies’ were countenancing its destruction.
“Not sure what you mean by the USSR being on the same side as Hitler”
From 1939-1941, the USSR and the Third Reich were military allies who jointly invaded and partitioned Poland.
That’s true, but they weren’t allies. The non-aggresssion pact didn’t compel the Soviets to help Hitler in any way and they didn’t to the best of my knowledge. From a strategic (not moral) perspective it made sense for the Russians to take part of Poland as a buffer against the Nazis.
Well again you’re making the usual (and at this point in my life tiresome) reference to the same variety of non-aggression pact which most of the rest of Europe signed with Germany, quickly voided like all of the others. Why is this the only one anyone ever knows or references? No one ever mentions the similar pacts with Latvia, Estonia (both of whom raised SS divisions!), Romania, Poland itself, nor the multi-state agreement in 1938 which gave Germany the Sudetenland (which by this accounting would make France and the Czechs themselves Nazi allies!) Transparently because it depicts the USSR in a negative light as Nazi allies, when in fact it’s obvious that the USSR and Germany were advancing in Poland, and taking and holding positions for preparation for war against each other. I highly recommend this article and the book referenced/encapsulated in it: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/08/26/the-hitler-stalin-pact-of-august-23-1939-myth-and-reality/
It’s not about “depicting the USSR in a negative light.”
It’s about the irrefutable historical fact that the USSR militarily allied with the Third Reich — until it didn’t anymore. That’s an is, not an ought.
The Soviets and the Third Reich were never “military allies.”
Other than entering into a military alliance (the secret section of the German-Soviet Pact of 1939 in which they agreed to invade and partition Poland, with Germany also agreeing to the Soviet invasions of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania), you mean?
I agree that helping the Third Reich rearm by producing weapons in the USSR to evade the Versailles limitations was not, strictly speaking, a “military alliance.” It was only when they allied to start a world war that it became one.
The secret protocol of Molotov-Ribbentrop, an agreement that Moscow negotiated as a defensive measure after talks with Britain and France broke down, defined the boundaries of the two nations’ respective spheres of influence. It permitted the partition and invasions you cite to take place without triggering (just yet) a war between Germany and the USSR. That’s not the same as creating a military alliance — not even close to the same.
The assertion that they “allied to start a world war” is a bizarre twist on reality. The Soviets wanted to avoid war, especially an attack by Germany on its most-vulnerable and most-often assaulted borderlands, and it had failed to reach the agreements it hoped to conclude with France and the UK.
Yes, the Soviet Union invaded Poland in that fateful year of 1939 (few Americans even know that) but Britain and France didn’t declare war on them, only Germany.
And more to the point (referencing my other post here), it’s ethnolinguistic Russians who commemorate their fallen from the war, with pride, as having defeated Hitler. Ukraine has passed laws against commemorating the defeat of Nazi Germany and halted state celebrations of same. They are renaming streets after Hitler’s allies. In places like Estonia, the ethnic Estonian population whose grandpas were SS volunteers have had clashes with the Russian minority whose grandpas fought the SS over annual commemorations and/at war memorials. It’s largely true that Russians specifically “lost the souls,” to fascist aggression. I’m 0% Russian incidentally; I just read a lot and try to be an honest dealer.
Not exactly. They took the eastern share of Poland as buffer against expected Nazi invasion.
The Germans could as easily argue they took the western share of Poland as buffer against expected Soviet invasion.
He did, pretty much all of Catholic Europe. (I was raised Catholic incidentally so this is no slur, just historic fact.) Poland and Ireland as exceptions, everyone else either had their own armies on Hitler’s side or raised volunteer SS divisions. Most concentration guards and most of the people doing the executions in the Warsaw Ghetto weren’t German. No one was more enthusiastic than Ukraine and Croatia, with the Ukrainians having dusted off grandpa’s SS uniform for a rematch, Washington DC substituting for Berlin.
He never had this reach.
Hitler is “he,” here? Are you saying there wasn’t a Nazi puppet state run by Catholic priests (as well as a concentration camp run by Catholic priests, one of whom invented a knife-glove he called his “Serb-cutter?”) Are you denying the historical fact of Galizien, or the many many Waffen SS divisions comprised of non-Germans? My own family stayed a step ahead of the all-Ukrainian 1st Galician Waffen SS division, now honored with torchlight marches in post-coup Ukraine. Are you denying that at some concentration camps, 90% of the guards were non-German? Have you heard of Mussolini, Franco, Salazar? Do you know of the Iron Guard in Romania or the Belarussian puppet state, whose flag is seen flown next to the Bandera-ist banner at modern Ukrainian rallies? I know that Timothy Snyder decided to start lying about the history of the region in Bloodlands after the Ukrainian coup, having the contract as the official American historian for washing American $$$ to Zelenskyyyy in Keeeeev (if you don’t say/spell both that way now, you’re a Putin dupe!), but that doesn’t mean we all have toss history down the Memory Hole.
Oops, the Catholic-priest run state and camps were the Ustashe terror state of Croatia, I neglected to name it here. Today the rock band with the contract to honor the national soccer team sings their old songs, in the open, as if WWII never ended, which for some it did not.
whose old songs? the songs of the Croatian fascist state? yikes is that true? I do find the Croatian fascists interesting, how they faded away and blended into Canadian and American cities.
Very true – visit Zagreb or Croatia and one sees consistent Facist graffiti all over. Plus the most successful pop star is a hard core open fascist
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lbMYYCMduXI
I was talking about the US /Zionist reach globally. That doesn’t compare, IMO.
An aside: Do you know about Zionist collaboration with Nazis?
The excerpt under moderation from Glub’s well researched book, Zionist relations with Nazi Germany,Pointing to the “Zionist tendency to brand any non-Zionist or anti-Zionist viewpoint as ‘anti-Semitic’”, and in a clear attempt to pre-empt such accusations, Glubb opted to use material for his study were “taken exclusively from Jewish sources”.</b Further historical work has been written on the Nazi-Zionist relationship in the decades since Glubb wrote his study, including by Lenni Brenner and Joseph Massad, yet generally it remains on the margins of public knowledge and consciousness.
Until knapp releases my receipts
ZIONIST RELATIONS WITH NAZI GERMANY
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All of his research was conducted using Jewish documents.
How do you explain Catholic France?
He did. All over Europe.
The US has expanded beyond Europe.
British Royalty,BostonRoyalty.
Egypt is building a new stronger wall with Gaza. They don’t want people in Gaza escaping the war zone. No nation has step up to plate to help those poor people get out the way of fighting. Filing lawsuits or shooting at international shipping is easy. but taking in those children is just too hard to do.
“No nation has step up to plate to help those poor people get out the way of fighting.”
1. One nation has to step up to the plate to help those poor people. That nation is Israel. (Alternatively, America can cut off the tap.)
2. The people aren’t ‘in the way of fighting’. They’re the targets of Israel’s turkey shoot.
Thank Hamas and its masters.
If they were the target as claimed there would be a lot more deaths.
The Russians were/have been accused of war crimes for “taking in those children” AKAS out of the war Zone. In today’s Bizzaro world, no good deed goes unpunished: “In one way or another”.
Sisi is not going to let the Palestinians merge with Egyptian citizens. There will be two barriers; one to keep Palestinians from going North, in and effort to go back home, one to keep Palestinians from entering Egypt. Horrorific.
” go back home,” 98 % of Gaza was born in the Gaza strip. That is there home.
It is Israel’s legal and moral responsibility.
But most have given up on the expectations of morality
Why can’t Israel take refugees into its territory as it’s the one perpetrating the ethnic cleansing and genocide. They are the responsible party not Egypt.
Cause these refugees want to murder and or displace them. Simple.
You think a bunch of genocide victims are going to be in any shape to do this?
Hamas will be reconstituted in a very few years. Some are doing quite fine in Qatar.
We’re not talking about Hamas. We’re talking about all the innocent Palestinians who are currently suffering and in need of help. Or don’t you think there are any innocent Palestinians?
Have Hamas surrender and the people of Gaza can get all the help they need. But as long as Hamas is willing to trade the lives of Gaza residents for PR and the citizens of Gaza are willing to do so, the war continues. Hamas can only succeed with the help of Gaza citizens. If they turn on Hamas, Hamas would be finished in short time.
So you think an unarmed civilian populace who is currently under siege being bombed daily among other atrocities is in any shape to resist Hamas (an armed faction). That’s a nice fantasy you’ve constructed to justify Israel’s genocide. The truth is that Israel has choices and are choosing genocide.
You keep talking the same nonsense. As if those children are going to be able to return to their homes and be reunited with their families after the “war” is over. Only problem with that scenario is that the butchers in Israel will be even more sadistic in their quest to eliminate the Palestinians in Gaza. Those children will be orphans and their homes rubble with their families buried underneath. Anyone driven from Gaza won’t be coming back.
Yes,it is terrible.And who started this-Hamas.
Yes pigshit, we understand. When you have nothing to justify Israel’s ongoing genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza, you just do a Rudy Guiliani (noun verb 9/11) and crawl back to noun verb Oct 7th.
That war can end if Hamas surrenders. But no let instead blame Israel for defending itself from a war that Hamas and its Gaza supporters started.
I don’t blame Israel for defending itself. I blame Israel for conducting a genocide on a largely civilian population that can’t defend itself and has nowhere to flee. And I blame assholes like you for making it all acceptable.
Internment camps…concentration camps…death camps? Distinctions without differences.
Oh, my. How Old Testament of them…
However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. – Deuteronomy 20:16
No one follows biblicla laws anymore anyway.
How else would Zionists be entitled to colonize Palestine if it wasn’t in their book of fables?
Precisely.
The book of fables is the bible you love to quote.
They’re following them right now in Gaza and the West Bank. If they’re allowed to continue they will then address the problem of the 20% of Palestinians who live in Israel proper and have Israeli citizenship. Then they’ll be moving north to the Litani. Then east to the Euphrates. Then south to the Nile.
Not gonna happen. The entire world now sees the Zionist project for the barbaric monstrosity that it is. And they will step in to put an end to it in due course … when the time is right.
Israel is about to disappear… probably sooner than later. They were once militarily dominant but that is no longer the case, and they cannot now prevail on the modern battlefield.
Patience. “Discretion is the better part of valor.”
nonsense.
The entire world notices, but will not bother. Why should they? Of what interest is it to them? Pictures of babies with limbs amputated, or their bodies buried in the rubble are horrible, but the children are someone else’s, not theirs, so why get all stirred up. Jeopardy is on tonight…………….what’s for dinner?
All those bad things happen because Hamas wanted their one day of glory.
They happened because Israel decided they would happen. They had choices on how to respond and they picked genocide.
Without their use of Nukes they are not a major power.
When Bibi calls Palestinians by the name “Amalek”, he used the Biblical references, and exhortation to kill all Palestinians, take the lands.
This Walled camp in the photos does not look at all secured & I would think in 6 weeks half of the Prisonerd
s will be in Cairo or dead from starvation.
Since 2006 Israel has allowed in enough food to satisfy caloric needs just above starvation. Now, Israel is flat out starving the population. The other day Ben-Gvir said that Palestinians women and children that approach the border fence will be shot in the head.
Where is your concern for the Israeli women and children butchered by Hamas on Oct 7?Those traumatized by years of rockets fired into Israel?
… for Liel Hetzroni and the wo beheaded babies?
You do understand that one can be horrified at the Hamas attack of Oct. 7th and also feel the same for the Palestinians who are at best being clearly ethnically cleansed from Gaza and at worst suffering from a genocide.
He understands perfectly. He just doesn’t have anything else.
It seems the Israeli hasbara are not able to come up with new scripts. They are losing the PR battle and in the Israeli state is losing legitimacy in they eyes of everyone but the collective west’s national security elite and the most die hard supporters of the mainline American political parties.
I don’t think he’s Hasbara. He’s doing it for free. He’s that vile.
You are correct. Israel is losing the PR battle, because Hamas is willing to trade their children’s lives for good PR. As long as people blame this war on Israel desire to commit genocide, Hamas will continue to make that trade. What you don’t understand is that Hamas does not care of about those losses. They are actually counting on them.
I see that you can read minds. That’s a neat trick. Maybe you can teach it to me.
noun verb oct 7th. You never stop. It’s always October 7th and never Oct 8th through Feb 16th.
He never stops because he is right. All the bad things happening in Gaza since that date are the direct result of Hamas attack. Israel has no choice but to try to kill Hamas. Since Hamas chose to build their forts under civilians building and Gaza civilians have chose to support Hamas, civilians will die.
You’re his fucking clone. Should I call you pigshit2? New rules. If you are attacked, you have the right to counterattack by killing anything that moves, bomb any structure you please, drive 90% of the population out of their homes and create a humanitarian disaster that could starve hundreds of thousands to death. You have to be a sick motherfucker to ignore so much unnecessary death, but you do.
The idea of driving all of the Palestinians out of Gaza sounds eerily like a “final solution.”
Well, yes this is what the Germans wanted in the 1930-45’s. And the Germans got their way too. Of course a rightful solution would have been to clear a piece of Germany to establish a Jewish state there. But even though Germans today are more Zionist than the Zionists it remains a bit of a question whether they would be fond of this much more proper and logically sound: historically, culturally and politically much more sensible solution. The Israeli could then even participate in the Eurovision song contest without the awkwardness of not being a European country. They would be then. More even than Ukraine.
90 years later, Hitler is still winning the framing of discussion. I never get why virtually everyone who brings up Nazi Germany divides the German population into “the Germans” and “the Jews” as if German Jews weren’t simply Germans who happened to be Jewish, many of them quite patriotic, some serving in the pre-Nazi era military and many of whom were shocked and dismayed at rejection by their homeland. Whole books have been written on this. A “solution” to the “Jewish problem” presupposes a Jewish problem. Well, there, out of the gate, game/set/match to Hitler. About the only people who agreed to make such a distinction were hardcore Zionists who thought segregation and migration were wonderful ideas; see the work of Lenni Brenner (his 51 Documents is now downloadable in pdf form for free, easy to find in a search engine.)
https://michaelharrison.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Zionist-Relations-with-Nazi-Germany-Faris-Yahya-PSR-Beirut-1978.pdf
Nazi Germany stripped Jews of their citizenship-defacto and dejure no longer German.
Only Jews did not invade Germany and slaughter its citizens.
The Germans said they had caused the disaster of WW1 and brought in the US and Britain again to what became WW2. There was little truth to this, but then there is little truth to Israel blaming all problems on the Palestinians they hold in their vast prison.
1200 citizens murdered after years of rocket firings is a problem.
Ahem, 300 were IDF soldiers and police, also, the Israeli military did a pretty good job of killing Israelis with tank fire and Apache helicopters, information conveniently ignored by MSM. Israeli military is doing a marvelous job killing more hostages with the bombing, gassing the tunnels (which killed a hostage, per his parents). Reaction by Hamas after 75 years of occupation, plus 16 years of blockade, effectively a concentration camp was forceable, and I mean forceable. There is no way the right wing government of Israel did not know what was coming. They had Mossad, Shin Bet, American listening posts on Cyprus and at other stations, probable spies in Gaza. Bibi created his 9/11, so as to present the “final solution” as war against Hamas, when the premise is to eliminate the Palestinians for “greater Israel”, the myth propagated in a d(mn book.
The generations coming after us will have no knowledge of what you’re speaking about other than Steven Spielberg’s movies. What amazes me is how many of them are noticing that genociding Palestinians is actual genocide. I’m sure he will get busy pumping more disinformation into their heads as soon as he can.
Sounds like good old-fashioned ethnic cleansing.
An 8 square mile outdoor concentration camp for 1 million Palestinians who are on the verge of mass starvation and disease. That is after Israel kills the other 1 million.
If the Apartheid State of Israel accomplishes a megadeath (the bad kind, not the good Mustaine kind) then I will officially re-dub them GASI – the Genocidal Apartheid State of Israel – in all future references.
Thereis no apartheid and no genocide.
This is not a pipe…
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No one is going to kill a million Palestinians.
Israel is not going to kill a million-really.
It wouldn’t matter. You’d still do a noun verb and Oct 7th.
As the occupying power it’s the Likud‘s legal responsibility to protect, house, and feed the Gaza refugees inside Israel – these refugees should be housed in Jaffa, Deir Yassin, and Bersheeba among other places.
https://www.plands.org/en/articles-speeches/articles/2019/when-the-denial-bubble-bursts-an-israeli-kibbutz-faces-the-nakba
Aint gonna happen. Maybe you can have them live with you.
So ethnic cleansing and genocide it is. You are getting so close to admitting it.
Close? He’s been admitting it since the beginning.
Dream on.
“Only Jews did not invade Germany and slaughter its citizens.”
Bullshit. Here’s an example. Since Hamas attacked Israel, Israel’s genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza isn’t really a genocide.
LOL with that.
Great, lets starve them some more. Not like that’s new or anything. Note the date on this:
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1758113680347308066?s=20
What a long way the Sionists has carved in their history to be the people who were victims of genocide then to enable one themselves. Driving Palestinians out of their home first, then what ? Killing them? Oh I forgot, they already does that now.
Maybe the Semites has forgotten what genocide is and they ought to get a reminder of what this is?
Why don’t you try?
I think this comment is out of line. No one deserves a genocide.
I agree, Israel must part with territory,food and money.
Well, Egypt acted alright… But in opposite direction…!
Not every Palestinians will be forced to go to Sinai… Some would remain to continue their underground guerilla resistance fighting…!
Nerve gas will take care of them
Just like the Nazis, amirite? Don’t you people understand how barbaric you are coming off?
Not at all-kidnappers,murderers and rapists who refuse to surrender get shot, or eliminated by any other means required
I see so no trials are required just summary executions? And this is the “democracy in the Middle East” that is worthy of all our tax dollars? Give me a break. Nothing but a bunch of two bit fascists it seems. Jack boots with a star of david instead of a swastika.
All of a sudden,you are worried about tax dollars? Israel is a survivalist nation-whenit comes to nazism-look to the roots of Hamas.
What you call “survivalist” is what everyone else in the world is calling ethnic cleansing and genocide.
You know, I’ve been referring to Zionism as being mirror image Naziism. I’m starting to think it should be looked at as the other way around, since the idea of Zionism (basically taking over the “Holy Land” by force) predates Naziism.
If you’ve read Mein Kampf you would find that Hitler actually based much of his solution to the “Jewish Problem” on U.S. Native American policy. Which, by the way, continued to remove Native American children form their parents, forbid them form learning their language or taking indigenous names, and educated them in state schools until the late 1960’s and early 70’s. Cultural genocide is still considered genocide according to international law. Is it any wonder our corrupt and morally depraved leaders continue to support he Israeli genocide against the Palestinians?
Edit: for citation
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Hitler_s_Ostkrieg_and_the_Indian_Wars/XhYkDQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1
Yes, he based his concentration camp system on the Indian Reservation system of the US. Not something I saw in my Primary or Secondary school history classes. Come to think of it, not in college, either. And what’s going on in Gaza (and the West Bank) is clearly covered by the Genocide Convention of 1948 as genocide. I don’t recall hearing any objections to any of those definitions until now. Go figure.
You forget the Herero and Armenian genocides. Genghis Khan slaughtered millions, and no doubt we trapped the Neandetrhals in caves, smoked them and ate them.
Small potatoes compared to the five century long (and continuing) genocide of indigenous cultures in the Western Hemisphere. Really, Homo sapiens vs. Homo neanderthalensis? You must be getting desperate. If you want to use pre Neolithic standards to judge the Israelis you are demonstrating the depravity of your position.
Zionism was forced upon the Jewish people as a method of survival. If they wont let you live at their place,get a place of your own. If Malcolm could say it to help his people-well whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
How about Zyclon B?? Just for old time’s sake!
Jake, they are not going to use nerve gas on the tunnels.
My goodness, the genocide cheerleaders have a difference of opinion on what means the Israelis will use to continue with their genocide on the Palestinians in Gaza. Precious.
He is only testing Jake…!
So Egypt thinks caving into the Zionist pressure from the USA/Israel, is going to solve anything? Egyptians will see this as a sign of weakness by their President and a reason for a rebellion. Why does Egypt have a Military, if it’s not to secure their borders, instead of helping Israel push the Palestinians off their lands? Does Egypt think Israel will stop it’s aggression and not expand into Syria, Lebanon and Egypt? The Arab/Muslim Nations need to rid themselves of their Military, since they are only there to protect their Elites and nothing to do with protecting the people. Until Israel is given the message that their AGGRESSION will not be tolerated, there will never be PEACE in the ME. Biden will not keep his word, Blinken is LIAR, Kirby is a LIAR, tongues only used for propaganda, used to pass time to allow Israel to STEAL the Palestinian land, which NO Nation will STOP. Sadly the populations will suffer, because they will not accept this and more wars will come.
Truly a 5 star comment.
The so called “October 7” event was a scripted (controlled) false flag event made in Israel. Zionist operatives seeking to “wipe Gaza off the map” first needed to engineer global outrage by creating the conditions for an alleged mass-casualty producing event, such as the one on October 7, 2023. This event was in turn used as a pretext for the current Zionist perpetrated genocide happening now in Gaza (and next in the West Bank). It was one of the most sophisticated land grabs in recent history. Don’t be fooled, and keep in mind the motto of the Mossad, “by way of deception, thou shall do war.”
Below is how the plan was to unfold:
Phase 1) The Israeli Shin Bet (Israel’s internal security service) infiltrated Hamas, leading and enticing members of the group to enter Israeli occupied lands to capture Zionist settlers. The Shin Bet coaxed (using internal Shin Bet agents within Hamas) Hamas into believing that the strategy was for Hamas to exchange (via a so called “prisoner exchange)” the captured Zionist settlers for Palestinian captives taken hostage by the Israelis over the last few decades who languish in Israel’s prisons to this day.
This was all a ploy, as the Shin Bet and the IDF’s strategy was to allow Hamas entry into the secured perimeter separating Gaza from the Israeli occupied lands. This area is among the most secure perimeters in the world. Former IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) soldiers have expressed this fact, and have acknowledged that absent leaving open avenues for Hamas’ entry, it would have been virtually impossible for Hamas to gain entry. So that Hamas would not face resistance, the IDF relocated IDF units away from the area of the perimeter which Hamas planned to use for entry. The area was left virtually unguarded. Hamas then entered the secure perimeter under the careful observations of the IDF.
Phase 2) After Hamas’ entry into the Israeli occupied lands they would be allowed to begin to take Zionist settlers as captives. The IDF would allow Hamas time to conduct this phase of the operation. Shortly thereafter, the IDF along with Israeli police would then begin their attack against Hamas using maximum force to annihilate the Hamas combatants and to also cause significant deaths among the Israeli captives. By doing so, the Israeli plan was to show that Hamas attacked and killed the Israeli captives. When in reality, the vast majority of deaths were actually caused by the IDF and the Israeli police.
Phase 3) The IDF would then falsely allege that Hamas fired thousands of rockets into Israel from Gaza. The IDF would then activate their so called “Iron Dome” missile defense rockets that actually shoot into the air, explode and don’t actually intercept anything. See this link for video discussing this matter: https://rumble.com/v3pbk7s-israeli-expert-says-iron-dome-defence-is-a-hoax..html. The IDF would then detonate smoke bombs on the ground to falsely convey that Hamas’ alleged rockets damaged buildings in Israel. However, there is no evidence that any buildings (except for a few that were actually destroyed by the IDF) were actually destroyed by these alleged Hamas missiles. In reality, Hamas did not fire a massive barrage of missiles into Israeli occupied lands. Hamas had no interest in firing rockets into Israel. As mentioned, Hamas was led to believe that the operation was to take captives alive to exchange for Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons. This false narrative was all part of this Israeli scripted “October 7” event.
Phase 4) Propaganda (Hasbarra). The Israelis knowing well how to manipulate world opinion, knew that this “October 7” false flag event can be a useful pretext for the Zionist regime to ethnically cleanse Gaza, created the false narrative that the Zionists are attacking Gaza to allegedly root out Hamas. Immediately, the pre-planned Zionist propaganda machine was set into action coining the term “October 7” and filing the media with false claims that the IDF and Israeli security officials were “taken by surprise” by Hamas’ alleged infiltration into Israeli occupied lands. When in reality, the Shin Bet set the entire process in motion. Israeli officials gave scripted interviews and published false propaganda throughout the world’s Zionist controlled media outlets. The Zionist controlled media continues to repeat the false narrative that 1,200 Zionists were killed by Hamas during the “October 7” event. There is no evidence to support this high casualty figure. This number was created out of thin air, to convey to the world that this was was a high casualty event. When in reality, it was not. We observed scripted false narratives that Hamas beheaded children, and committed atrocities. Media in the West were inundated by fabricated accounts created by Zionist Hasbarra spinmasters. All these stories were fabricated to pave way to mold Western public opinion into accepting what was to follow – the massive ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians from Gaza.
Phase 5) Empty Gaza’s Palestinians into Egypt or other foreign states (on the grounds of humanitarian assistance or bribery to foreign countries) and permanently settle Jews in Gaza. The West Bank is next. Another false flag operation is most likely in the works to create a similar situation in the West Bank and drive the Palestinians into Jordan. Permanently settle Jews in the West Bank.
The scripted “October 7” event was to be used as a pretext to kill hundreds of thousands of Gaza’s Palestinian population by the indiscriminate dropping of 2,000 pound bunker buster bombs, razing all of its buildings, starving the remaining population who survive the massive explosions, and otherwise killing by preventing medical treatment, and using any means to make the Palestinians to want to disperse and leave Gaza, and force their way into Egypt. Israel’s plan was to coax the Palestinians into Rafah by dropping leaflets and robocalls advising them to move south prior to bombing, and then when they moved into Rafah, then bomb them so that hundreds and thousands of Palestinians would trample one another as they press their way past the Egyptian border. Israel’s strategy was from the beginning to kill or expel the Palestinians in Gaza, and to make way for Jews to move into the area to permanently settle. Next, will be a similar process for the West Bank.
The so called “October 7” event was a scripted (controlled) false flag event made in Israel. It was one of the most sophisticated land grabs in recent history. Hamas was used as an unwitting tool to further this deception. Keep in mind the motto of the Mossad, “by way of deception, thou shall do war.”
“Phase 1) The Israeli Shin Bet (Israel’s internal security service)
infiltrated Hamas, leading and enticing members of the group to enter
Israeli occupied lands to capture Zionist settlers.”
Got evidence?
I’d Shin Bet on it.
You’d bet on it without having credible evidence? In other words, you believe it because it’s consistent with what you already believe about Israel. Understandable, but sloppy reasoning.
It’s consistent with all available evidence; with past political statements and actions and intents; and with reasonable understanding of human nature in general and that of the Israeli-Netanyahu regime specifically.
It’s possible ANY scientific theory (evolution, gravity, plate tectonics) is wrong. However, the mass of previous evidence plus a lack of contrary evidence gives us at LEAST a 3sd confidence interval.
Is it “sloppy reasoning” to safely bet that the USA will void or violate any other treaty still in force given the number of agreements it is on record setting aside out of political convenience ?
I repeat: “In other words, you believe it because it’s consistent with what you
already believe about Israel. Understandable, but sloppy reasoning.”
Lovely,sarcastic and has some truth to it.
In science, one does not “prove” a theory – one just consistently fails to falsify or disprove it.
While I cannot prove that what you said is true, Jimmy, I recognize I have no reasonable or rational means (given all the supporting evidence) to say it’s false, in whole or in part.
Therefore it stands, currently, as the best explanation for Oct 7 onwards. Thank you for outlining it !
… I always go back to another in the long line of seminal Zionazi documents:
A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm is a policy document that was prepared in 1996 by a study group led by Richard Perle for Benjamin Netanyahu, the then Prime Minister of Israel. Wikipedia
It reveals remarkable premeditation.
i have a bridge that you can buy.
I didn’t think it was that complicated. Just willful negligence by Mossad/IDF to get the whole going and whatever happened after that would be enough to get the genocide rolling. Just needed some human shields and lo and behold the IDF doesn’t warn the organizers of the music festival of a possible attack, and they got their big number. Not saying what you write couldn’t be true though. It actually sounds entirely possible.
how many angels can you fit on a head of a pin
You should write your comment to the NY Times and the WAPO as an Op ED.
Honestly, I see little remaining reason for these posts. Nothing is going to occur to prevent the cleansing of Gaza of its Palestinian population and culture. No one is going to do anything about it.
No one.
The Israelis have been fully inoculated by the US Hegemon. They are free to murder every last Palestinian – assuming, of course, that Uncle Sam doesn’t run out of bombs, shells, and bullets.
The Jews were slaughtered because no one stood up for them. The Palestinians will face the same outcome.
Just posted a comment that contains the word Jews. Let’s see if the word by itself gives the censors heart palpitations.
…… Yep, it does 😉
I refuse to remove the word that the Disqus idiot finds so offensive. This one is for you, Thomas.
Disqus shits all over free speech. Artificial intelligence is a fucking joke.
It’s hardly “artificial intelligence.” There’s a moderation filter that holds comments containing that particular word (and others) until a moderator loooks at them because of because of its high incidence in comments that violate our guidelines. Sorry for the delay — I was out getting a chest CT this morning.
I hope your results are OK.
I understand the operation of the moderation filter, but the filter is ridiculously corrosive – especially to anyone who thinks, composes, takes the time to type something reasonable and to the point, only to have the effort placed in quarantine.
The scheme is simply not workable, as it is most destructive to free expression in those situations where free expression is most needed. Hence it is self-destructive.
Have a good day and all the best to you.
So when my comment gets removed for bashing Dave D for stating that he sucks or that he is dishonest and antiwar needs to get a more diverse pool of journalists.
Was that AI or was that TLK?
BTW, you should be writing more for antiwar. At least we know it’ll be balanced.
When your comments get removed for personally attacking Antiwar.com’s staff, that’s me. And if you keep it up, you’ll be gone.
The only time I write specifically for Antiwar.com is when I’m asked to fill in because there’s a sudden development or when someone is out sick, etc. That’s on the news side. When I write opinion, it’s nowhere close to balanced, and it’s not written for the site, it’s syndicated and Antiwar.com sometimes picks it up.
Voltaire said” I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for the right to say it”.With a few exceptions for the three musketeers.Ignorance and stupidity are not acceptable in IMHO.
“When your comments get removed for personally attacking Antiwar.com’s staff, that’s me. And if you keep it up, you’ll be gone.”
You read the anti-war-ning…?!
Tom, I hope you get good news from the CT scan.
Thanks! It wasn’t bad news — quitting smoking appears to be slowly reversing my Langerhans cell histiocytosis, and I’m no longer progressing toward COPD. But some damage once done never goes away, so I’m stuck with (thankfully very minor) emphysema.
Wishing you all the best.
Hope you recover…! You would want to be away from pollution in the city you live….!
Thanks — but not really much to recover from, just a diagnosis of cell abnormality that stopping smoking seems to be reversing. I didn’t find out I had it because I was sick or anything, just because I got my first routine “smoker over 55” chest CT last year.
It’s rare enough that the only place I had ever heard of it was on “House, M.D.” (where it turned out not to be the cause of a patient’s mysterious symptoms), and it’s even rarer in adults, and almost exclusive to smokers among adults.
As for pollution, I’ve lived in the country and small towns for most of my life, including the last 11 years (I did live in the urban part of the St. Louis area for 12 years; I don’t recommend it).
C’mon, lighten up. This is one of the least censorious sites on the net. The triggers that hold posts for the moderator make good sense in the context of vicious stupidity that inundates sites when the crazy haters find that they can get away with it.
I routinely submit posts that trigger moderation and I don’t think Knapp has ever blocked one of them.
My criticism is not of Thomas – in any way. Peace.
Looks like Disqus is jealous of Trafalgar Square.
Good bye, Thomas.
So Sisi caved, wonder how much it’s costing US tax payers for Egypt to join the DC Zionists in Israel’s ethnic cleansing? State said today “The U.S. is not funding camps in Egypt for displaced Palestinians” confirming they are.
What else you expect from a US backed dictator…?!
This is awful! Israel would be now utterly stupid not to take advantage of this opportunity to remove all Palestinians. What a nistake. Should have sent military into Gaza to build tents there? After all Gaza is not Israel’s land and cannot.claim sovereignty.
They obviously don’t care about sovereignty. They only care about the land for Oil and Gas plus their new canal.
Canal to where?
The Ben-Gurion Canal, part of the trade corridor Biden announced at the last G20 connecting Asia and Europe via the Arabian Peninsula and Israel. Of course that was before Israel’s ‘plausible’ genocide and Saudi Arabia put normalization on hold.
Zionists care about borders, they care most about borders, the borders of the “Greater Israel” project they’v been working on for >100 years. The oil and gas they can steal but genocide might put a kink in the canal 🙂
All the latest data indicates that Egypt is building a new wall. Egypt may be planning to isolate Gaza after the war the same way Israel plans to isolate Gaza.