President Biden on Wednesday accused Palestinians in Gaza of lying about the civilian casualty rate when confronted about the massive number of child casualties in Israel’s bombardment.
According to the latest numbers from Gaza’s Health Ministry, over 6,500 Palestinians have been killed in Israel’s onslaught, including more than 2,700 children. A reporter asked Biden if the figures demonstrate that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is ignoring US calls to minimize civilian casualties.
“What they say to me is I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed, and it’s the price of waging a war,” Biden said. The president added that Israel should be “incredibly careful” to go after Hamas and said he has “no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using.”
The US and Israel have begun to cast doubt on the casualty rates coming from Gaza’s Health Ministry because the enclave is ruled by Hamas. But, according to a report from The Washington Post, many experts consider the numbers to be reliable.
“Everyone uses the figures from the Gaza Health Ministry because those are generally proven to be reliable,” said Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch. “In the times in which we have done our own verification of numbers for particular strikes, I’m not aware of any time which there’s been some major discrepancy.”
Shakir made similar comments to Al Jazeera and said the current numbers are believable based on the massive number of airstrikes Israel is unleashing on Gaza, one of the most densely populated places on earth. “We’ve been looking at satellite imagery. We’ve been looking at what’s taking place. The numbers coming out of the ministry are not beyond reason,” he said. “They’re within the range of what one would expect from air strikes of this intensity.”
While US officials are casting doubt on the numbers coming out of Gaza, they have also shrugged off the civilian casualties, framing them as a cost of modern war. “This is war. It is combat. It is bloody, ugly and it’s going to be messy and innocent civilians are going to be hurt going forward,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on Tuesday.
How low can you go Joe?!
You asked? He can go low. As low as he needs to be. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea89c71978d531658d505392425ac4387ae7064a8be1a8b0b8974b59347b7b22.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a61cb8a1a82401e9f494731970b0311a468334ebcbf91f39ac263159ec7b88d.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09c9188fbc21d11922987348624bd752d7f3d5ff12b776fda869dc7b09fc229f.jpg
He can go low enough to kiss Natanyaboo Shoes…!
How low can YOU go?
Yawn………………
Hey Joe Kirby! Hey, hey USA! How many kids have you killed today?!
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of Israel…
What the f-ck is going on here?!
The Israel Lobby.
What’s going on here is that your allegiance is NOT to US but to anything NOT US. Just like a bunch others here.
You guys should annual reunions and fundraising events.
There are more sane people in US than you think. Despite being bombarded by propaganda, humans know the difference betwern right and wrong. Nobody sane can watch this bloid lust go on without revulsion. You seem to be an exception.
Oh go fluff Putin.
And You your Alpaca too….!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’
Putin, right now, is a better leader of his country than Joe is for the U.S.
Bianca, you should just ignore this bot with THREE PERSONAS who spew the Biden’s dementia riddled Neocon lies & distortions, It’s a big, but dangerous dream to rule the world by ‘Full Spectrum Dominance.” Only problem is the two biggest and most able to resist decline to abdicate their sovergnity.. Also there is the sticky wicket of how far the declining former hegemony has fallen behind in weapons technology & military vigor. If they got routed by the Taliban, how do they hope to cow Russia and China???
Yes, in the noise it is easy to overlook the steady loss of technological edge. Short term thinking dictated by the finance driven mantra of efficiency created a paradox. Chasing profit actually undermuned the profitability and with it any semblance of long term thinking. I have come to believe that this 19 century thinking — both in politics and economy is just not capable to handle the complexity of technology. System is too fragmented with emphasis on private profit, where national interest is only councidentally met. Attempts at glibalizing the system are faltering, in places failing outright, while the biggest economies globally explore new models if development. We do not learn from reality. We seem to think we create reality by endless attempts to innovate by doing the same. This is a fundamental problem that requires open mindedness and willingness to reform. Not likely for asing as we see ourselves as perfect, just making few mistakes.
You are becoming ever more lucid, Bianca.
Oh yeah this guy is an exception all right, closer to special needs than a savant…..!!!!!!!!!!
Long Live Palestine!
Long live Ukraine too?
Nah, not that one.
You guys are ridiculous.
What do you know about Ukraine conflict? Nothing. You are a bully sir.
Yes, long live Ukraine. Death to the NAZIs in the Kiev administration, and NATO go to h*ll. And take the U.S. with you.
Long live the innocent citizens, May the mass elite organized murderers in all places be shortened and be faced with the evil they create. Hopefully they will turn from their ways and grow up. We are in desperate need of adults here.
Long live the innocents, they do not deserve this.
Too bad we can’t have all the Palestinians replacing the Israelies on their stolennturf.
Wow. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., inspiring volunteers for the next 9/11.
They really shouldn’t let him speak publicly without that Teleprompter.
Totally SOLID D51, SOLID!
That is from the teleprompter. One of our resident propagandists was spewing this yesterday.
His introductory remarks were scripted, and thoroughly shameful, but the comment about not believing the Palestinian casualty numbers was in response to a reporter’s question.
Our resident Hasbarist-in-Chief (pro tem) and the White House Resident (pro tem) have the dumbest, most tone deaf, talking points teams on the planet.
No. Read comments. They are trying to minimize. One yesterday tried to allege that it wasn’t Israel who killed the people either. It’s the same bullshit propaganda they used in Ukraine. And BTW:
PROPAGANDA WAR: PRO-ISRAEL TROLLS MOB TWITTER’S COMMUNITY NOTES
Spending Millions To Whitewash Massacres
Since October 7, Israel has inundated YouTube with advertisements, with its Ministry of Foreign Affairs spending nearly $7.1 million on ads in the two weeks following Hamas’ incursion. According to journalist Sophia Smith Galer, this equates to almost one billion impressions.
With its campaign, the Israeli government overwhelmingly focused on rich Western nations, its top targets being France, Germany, the United Kingdom, Belgium and the United States. In France alone, the ministry spent $3.8 million. Other branches of the Israeli government undoubtedly also spent money on ads. The overwhelming message of the campaign was that Hamas are terrorists linked with ISIS and that Israel – a modern, secular democracy – is defending itself from foreign aggression….The Community Notes function on Twitter is an attempt to fight false information. Contributors who sign up for the feature can leave notes on any post, adding context to potentially misleading statements. The community then votes on these notes, and if enough people consider the note useful, it is presented below the original tweet.
While it has its advantages, the system is ripe for abuse and infiltration. Since October 7, an army of pro-Israel trolls has brigaded the function and is attempting to undermine and attack as many posts as possible showing Israel in a negative light or Palestine in a positive one. This has often been done in an attempt to hide Israeli war crimes.
https://popularresistance.org/propaganda-war-pro-israel-trolls-are-mobbing-twitters-community-notes/
“No.”
No what? What are you disagreeing with?
No, it is part of the official narrative that Palestinians are lying about the death toll. I told you our resident propagandist got the ball rolling on that theme yesterday. It wasn’t an off the cuff remark, it was prepared for him even though it was after the teleprompter. This shit is rehearsed. Talking points to be repeated until the public sees it as truth
I doubt that publicly claiming the casualty numbers from Gaza are lies is part of a US official strategy. If it is, we’ll see more of it, but I don’t really expect to. Such a claim is, of course, standard operating procedure for hasbarists.
Examples:
British government funded a plan for international censorship of critiques of NATO
A leaked 130-page report made public here for the first time documents an international censorship campaign funded by the British government and led by a public relations contractor for U.S. Special Operations Forces. The basic strategy is to redefine “disinformation” to include even factual criticism of the U.S. military or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), and then to exert “coordinated action to pressure social media and digital market actors” to “moderate” such speech. The previously secret report also recommends “intensifying cooperation among the intelligence agencies within the EU [European Union]”, which in the past has included Ukrainian intelligence conducting what it described as a “multi-level special operation” in Spain to arrest a critical journalist for treason over his YouTube broadcasts.
https://jackpoulson.substack.com/p/exclusive-british-government-funded
More:
How The FBI Helps Ukrainian Intelligence Hunt ‘Disinformation’ On Social Media
In an interview, a senior Ukrainian official defined “disinformation” as any news that contradicts his government’s message.
https://www.leefang.com/p/how-the-fbi-helps-ukrainian-intelligence
FBI helps Ukraine censor Twitter users and obtain their info, including journalists
The FBI aided a Ukrainian intelligence effort to ban Twitter users and collect their data, leaks reveal. Twitter declined to censor journalists targeted by Ukraine, including Aaron Maté.
https://mate.substack.com/p/fbi-helps-ukraine-censor-twitter
The (unsurprising) fact that the Noble Leaders of the West are engaged in censorship, etc. is unrelated to the question of whether claiming that Palestinians are lying about casualties in the Gaza bombathon.
Right. The US is under pressure for supporting genocide, so the answer is the deaths really aren’t that big. But you believe/disbelieve whatever you want. I have recognized patterns.
I would expect we’ll be flooded with the same from here on out. They’re going to have to explain away a shitload of dead people.
Remember the beheaded babies? They will use the propaganda as long as they can get away with it. The other stupid narrative is that Israel is taking care not to kill civilians.
The US works in concert with war partners to distribute propaganda and actively censor. I’m kind of surprised you don’t realize this.
Israel through its officials said PLENTY to make sure that we know killung “human animals” is deliberate. Leveling apartment complexes is deliberae.
Beheading babies and children of all ages by crushed concret is deliberate policy of Israel. Thise are just “the children of darkness”. Propagandists do not know we can read.
True. But Americans are zombies with short memories who too few delve below the surface, especially if it causes cognitive dissonance.
Silencing the Lambs — How Propaganda Works
“submissive void”
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/07/john-pilger-silencing-the-lambs-how-propaganda-works/
Gore Vidal: this is the United States of Amnesia
The Biden supporters swallow every little fart he emits and take it as gospel.
Does the mummy man actually still have any REAL supporters other than Julio and Irrational Thinker?
Joesama. Also, I noticed Japan calls for temporary suspension of fighting in Gaza, interesting historical note. You’ll find many a source that is fond of explaining all Japanese inhabitants as military during that time.
Don’t worry, he’s planning on proving those Palestinians are alive when they cast mail in ballots from swing states in the 2024 election. I’ll bet they’ll all have the same handwriting to
Wow. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr., inspiring volunteers for the next 9/11.
They really shouldn’t let him speak publicly without that Teleprompter.
Agree. His mouth is a weapon of mas destruction.
I voted for Joe. My bad. I voted for one evil SOB. Will not make that error again.
Democrats are worse than Republicans; Write in friends or pets in the next election.
The sole Republican who voted against the measure was Rep. Thomas Massie (KY).
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a champion!
I always end up voting for Mickey Mouse in the presidential elections.
BS, you dont vote.
Perhaps in Moscow, you do.
Otherwise you are another Pro Putin lover/US hater that lives in the US
In other words, another hypocrite and collaborator. Lol.
Dude, you called me a communist the other day and then when asked to provide examples of my alleged communist proclivities scurried away like a rat. All you can do is throw shit like the neocon monkey you are. Go back to sucking MIC cock.
Putin dismantled Communism in Russia.
Yeltsin.
Wow,what a comment,it really got my attention.
Thanks. Don Julio is a rat monkey from Virginia who is so confused about reality that he actually thinks Ukraine is winning the war against Russia. If one point out this obvious fact to him he can’t stand the contradiction to his programming so he labels anyone who point out inconvenient facts variously as a “communist,” “tankie,” “anti-american,” or my personal favorite “collaborator.” What a tool he is.
You know the old saying,see,speak and hear no evil. Well some of the radical right that comment a lot on this site. That old cliche does not apply to idiots and morons.
You: “I used to respect Putin and side with him a while ago, that stopped in 2014”
Again Don, did Vlad do anything prior to 2014 that you might object to? Anything? And has Frank Rizzo said anything similar to what you said that you could base your accusation on? Of course not. I recall him saying the opposite. But I guess you’re just bored on your lack of opportunities to call people what you have admitted to since the Ukraine/Russia conflict isn’t getting much ink.
And speaking of being a
“US hater” you did say this:
“And yes, i’m against US invasion of ALL previous wars.”
And that was while you were serving in the US ARMY. Now, some people, namely you, would call someone who says that UNPATRIOTIC.
The tequila guy was in the U.S. military? Their standards have fallen, haven’t they.
And he always wins, doesn’t he ? Or is it Goofy ? 😉
I would like to write in Daffy Duck. Not too many consenting adults with a brain in politics anymore.
Sufferin’ Succotash!
I have a chiweenie who would make an excellent candidate…
😉
There needs to be a none of the above check box on the ballot.
I went back and forth voting, bush, obama, etc. Switching sides because of these politicians evilmactions on both sides of the isle.
. . , I finally gave up. Glad I did. Now at least I know i didnt vote for a psychotic mass murderer.
These people have a problem, . . Plain and simple.
I have finally arrived at that conclusion.
I was a Republican for many years. Campaigned for Nixon for POTUS when I was in high school. Did same for his run for CA governor. Switched to Democratic Party during the Reagan administration. Now, both parties are crazy. There is no viable third party. I feel like the rat in a Skinner box.
Judging by polls (although not media coverage), a majority of us are in the rat hole with you.
The sad thing is that all of this will continue because the uniparty is evil. Look at Nikki Haley, after leaving gov’t and getting rich through the MIC, she is one of the most rabid warmongers that exists.
The problem is that only psychopaths run and win in the US.
They are frontmen for the real people behind the scenes that you never vote for.
I just read this: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-exclusive-israel-will-flood-hamas-tunnels-nerve-gas-under-delta-force-supervision…
It’s really unlikely that Israel would use forbidden chemical weapons in a way that would be nearly impossible to keep secret. The comparisons to WWII concentration camp “showers” and worldwide outrage would be ruinous. They aren’t that stupid and self-destructive.
War is not only weapons, but communications. They will just claim they never did it. Or that Hamas did it.
It almost certainly could not be kept secret. The chances of irrefutable evidence being presented to the world would be to great to take the risk. Also, even if Israel were reckless enough to try it, the chances that US forces would participate and “oversee” the operation are vanishingly small.
I don’t think this is a credible story. And note that the unnamed source claims only that “Palestinian groups expect” the use of gas. That’s a looong way from sounding like credible intelligence about Israeli plans.
Evidence of the fake chemical attack by the Assad government has not changed anything. Amnesia sets in, purposely. Evidence to the contrary, media still says Assad did it.
The Douma attack? That’s entirely different in terms of world attention and interest. Not even in the same dimension. And it’s perfectly reasonable for the Western media to report that Syrian government forces were responsible for the attack, since entities they consider authoritative, e.g., the OPCW in January of this year, have “determined” that’s what happened.
Do not be too sure. If Netanyahu believes they can get away with it, they will do it.
The United States of Israel…!
And, United States of Amnesia
Biden is a life-long creepy liar.
Yeah, Trump gets all the credit for lies, but Biden has gotten away with his.
I see that Washington Post article described the 2006 as “disputed” – anyone know what is disputed and by who ?
from wikipedia (with links)
The National Democratic Institute (NDI) in partnership with The Carter
Center reported “a professional and impartial performance of election
officials”.[28]
The European Union delegation reported “there was nothing which would
indicate that the final result was not the outcome chosen by the
voters”.[29]
A CRS Report for Congress on the 2006 elections concluded: “The
election was overseen by 17,268 domestic observers, complemented by 900
credentialed international monitors. … The Bush Administration
accepted the outcome of the Palestinian legislative elections and
praised the PA for holding free and fair elections. … The conduct of
the election was widely considered to be free and fair.”[38]
interesting the Washington Post feels it needs to explain the Hamas/Fatah split etc to its readers – would their knowledge of the history of that region be that low ?
The immediate reaction by the U.S. and its 51st state was to initiate the blockade.
Hamas knows nothing but to lie.
https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/08/12/hamas-lies-about-the-gaza-civilian-death-toll-and-the-media-bought-it
An op-ed by a lobbyist for Israel. Totally credible. 🙄
Awesome. Goes to show how folks here are just repeating anti US propaganda.
Holding the US to high standards of a democracy that puts human life first is pro US.
Hollywood/CIA hate propaganda that creates phantom enemies is anti US, precisely.
i guess the Palestinians do not have enough fingers and toes to count on.
Israelis on the other hand, if they said 6 million of themselves have been killed Biden would totally take their magic number word for it.
Every time he opens his mouth, he loses credibility. It’s gotten to the point where other world leaders won’t even talk to him.
Explain away this Joe.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1920×1080/p0gkp23p.jpg
Now this: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-exclusive-israel-will-flood-hamas-tunnels-nerve-gas-under-delta-force-supervision
Gassing people in tunnels is not Nazi-like at all. /s
The gas will travel through the tunnels, into the open air. Homes have been blasted that were over the tunnels. Militants will die. Hostages may die too. Mrs. Lipshitz, the 85 year old hostage released the other day (Who shook hands with one of the captors, who described Hamas members as kind, took care of their needs, had a doctor examine her and others) described traveling in a tunnel. Use of chemical weapons is a war crime. If it does happen, with the aid of Delta Force personnel, we will be on the hook for war crimes.
Didn’t the US do a study through the subway on how gas or disease would spread? I forget the name.
More recently:
Today the MTA and Department of Homeland Security are beginning a week of testing NYC’s chemical and biological attack preparedness by dispersing non-toxic gas through the subway system.
When they announced last week that on five days between October 18 and 29, they’d be doing an “airflow and dispersion study” to simulate the aerosol release of a biological agent in a densely populated urban environment, New Yorkers had a lot to say.
With gas being released in Times Square, World Trade Center Complex, Union Square Park, the Union Square subway stations, as well as the Oculus transit hub, many are skeptical of the “non-toxic” nature of the gas (you can see exactly what is in the gas here) while others are finding it a harmless necessity and using it as a chance to make jokes.
https://www.timeout.com/newyork/news/new-yorkers-share-opinions-on-the-dispersal-of-non-toxic-gas-in-the-subways-101821
I predict with absolute certainly that nothing will happen to either the USA or Israels war crimes trials because there won’t be any.
JFC. Nothing new:
….the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq’s 1980-88 war with Iran,…the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan’s Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime’s repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq’s Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs…1994 US Senate report revealed that US companies were licenced by the commerce department to export a “witch’s brew” of biological and chemical materials, including bacillus anthracis (which causes anthrax) and clostridium botulinum (the source of botulism). The American Type Culture Collection made 70 shipments of the anthrax bug and other pathogenic agents.
The report also noted that US exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment. US firms supplied advanced and specialised computers, lasers, testing and analysing equipment. Among the better-known companies were Hewlett Packard, Unisys, Data General and Honeywell.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/06/17/how-reagan-armed-saddam-with-chemical-weapons/
From what I have read, the mechanisms for dispersing the nerve gas came from a plant in Rochester, New York.
Model choo-choo? We need a new shipment of heavy duty jeans for the staffers while Major gets his teeth sharpened.
Our foreign policcy in a serious crisis. If we cannot distinguish a difference betwern “modern warfare” and Israel’s deliberate, openly declared intent to mill as many civilians as possible,?if we cannot grasp what bombing of apartment complexes mean — we are a pariah siciety in the eyes of the whole world. No matter what various governments may say to dress up a wound on conscience.
It is difficult to imagine a President lying. When has that ever happened before?
To think I worked in two campaigns for him. When I was In high school I campaigned for him to be POTUS. Two years later, I campaigned for him to be governor of CA. I even shook his hand.
Don’t feel too badly about it. My first time voting I voted for Congressman John Schmitz instead of Nixon. Schmitz is the father of Mary Kay LeTourneau. He also had quite a private life.
Biden is a pathetic, demented fool. He will go to war for israel because his brainchild, the IMEC trade route from India to Europe via Israel, is at stake. Biden would build his legacy on the bodies of innocent children because he’s a deranged psychopath.
It is bloody, ugly and it’s going to be messy and innocent civilians are going to be hurt going forward,” National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said on Tuesday.
Unfortunately- and predictably- he didn’t follow that up with, “As long as it’s Palestinian innocent civilians who are going to be hurt, we’re on board with that.”
FJB and Mr. talking head John Kirby.
“What they say to me is I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed.”
This is so typical and expected. So, when Israel only gets a few casualties as in past skirmishes with Hamas, they go on a mini rampage that “only” kills maybe a couple thousand. But, when Israel absorbed the number of casualties that they did with the Oct. 7th Hamas’ attack, they go on a rampage that will allow them to level the entire strip. At least in their sick minds. If only they would have stuck to their “mini rampage” they could have used the usual “human shield” claim and blamed Hamas. But not this time. Now the Palestinians are lying because dropping thousands upon thousands of bombs on a small densely populated area couldn’t possibly mean thousands upon thousands of deaths. Hence, we have the walking corpse accuse the Palestinians of lying. Shocking.
Yes, Biden wants a museum of corpses with an audit count to believe anything coming out from Gaza.
Biden is a monster.
His only excuse is mental decline, rendering him less responsible.
But then, he has always been this way, so that is not much of an excuse. A neocon aggressor since his early days, one of the first and now one of the last surviving.
Who feeds him his oatmeal in the morning?
There has been another tragic mass shooting. This time in Maine. Mr. Biden has spent time telephoning, acting presidential, showing concern about those who were wounded , as well as the families of the deceased. Much concern. As he should. At the same time he shows indifference to he deaths, of children, in Gaza and the West Bank. I hope I don’t sound crass, but Mr. Biden is 1) a political hack, 2) a political hack who does not care about the Palestinians because Palestinians are “them”.
FJB
Yesterday college students from both public and private universities in NYC walked out of their classes to join assemblies on campus to protest Israel’s genocide of the Palestinian people..
Maybe these kids aren’t sure about who is a girl or boy but by GOD they know right from wrong!
PEACE NOW!
Those might be the same students that protested to condemn the Hamas killing of 1400 innocent Israelis.
The jury is out on who killed those “innocent” squatters.. No, they were protesting the murder of the native Palestinians who have done no wrong to anyone.
According to the survivor of one of the attacks, Israeli citizens were killed in the crossfire. https://electronicintifada.net/content/israeli-forces-shot-their-own-civilians-kibbutz-survivor-says/38861
Blinken is use to propaganda and government manipulation from main stream American news sources. We can’t have truth in reporting that is un-American.
Scoop: Blinken says he asked Qatari PM to rein in Al Jazeera war coverage, per sources
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/25/tony-blinken-qatar-israel-hamas
Lie, deny, then alibi?
I meant that to be directed at Biden, not Palestine.
“President” “Biden Accuses Palestinians of Lying About Civilian Casualties”
Just like Joey Biden lying about being the legally elected President of the United States.
Joey Biden also lied about taking bribes from Ukraine, his class standing and grades in college, his multiple degrees which he did NOT earn, and his criminal son Beau’s death.
Beau Biden did not die in combat Joey. That is stolen valor you lying creep.
FJB!
One thing for certain. Israel does not not represent a loving caring God. This has been shown by them for certain now.
I think who they represent most above all is themselves. And all that without any regard for human ethics.
Same for Hamas and the US.
Its a shame what they all are doing. Its like they have a vendetta against all of Gods creation with a incessant addictive desire and desperation.
So strange and so sad.
I hope there is a healing spiritual afterlife for all the innocents that are suffering under these oppresive organizations. I truely hope there is a God of wisdom and understanding somewhere.
For these people and organizations creating this mess are lacking in these traits greatly.
What they say to me is I have no notion that the Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed, and it’s the price of waging a war,”
This an arrogant and self righteous attitude that has been exhibited by many US politicians and media personalities in regards to US and its allies war crimes. It always dismissive of the sufferings, destruction, and deaths inflicted by the US and its allies.
This brings to my mind a conversation in a radio show discussing the little Bush war and made up justifications for it. The show host came out and stated without any hesitation that the US can’t trust Iraq because they don’t tell the truth and never honour or keep any agreement they make . This was coming from someone who called himself American that so much self delusional and ignorant even of his own history.