Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant on Thursday told Israeli troops to “be ready” to invade Gaza as Israeli airstrikes continued to pound the besieged enclave.
“Whoever sees Gaza from afar now, will see it from the inside … I promise you,” Gallant told troops near the Gaza border. “It might take a week, a month, two months until we destroy them.”
Other Israeli officials addressed troops near Gaza and also signaled an invasion would happen soon. “Now, the maneuver is going to move the fighting to their territory. We are going to beat them in their territory,” said Maj. Gen. Yaron Finkelman, head of the Israeli military’s Southern Command.
The Israeli officials stressed that the war will not be short. “It’s going to be difficult, long and intense,” Finkelman said.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told a group of soldiers they would be victorious. “We are going to win with all our might,” he said. “All of Israel is behind you, and we are going to heavily strike our enemies so that we can achieve victory.”
The comments from Israeli leaders came a day after President Biden visited Israel and gave his support for Israel’s plan to invade Gaza. Biden is expected to ask Congress for at least $10 billion in new military aid for Israel.
Since the October 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel, Israeli airstrikes have pounded Gaza relentlessly. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, at least 3,785 people have been killed in Gaza, including 1,524 children, 1,000 women and 120 elderly people.
This may sound a bit strange, especially coming from me but is there a WWlll looming in the not so distant future?
Israel… I’ve got to be honest with you… I’m not sure I like you anymore.
I support Jewish people but not you.
P.S. please let the AID Trucks through… A starving and sick Palestinian child is just as important as a starving Jewish child.
If Iranian ballistic missiles start raining down upon Israel, World War 3 will come very fast .
Iranian chess masters no doubt consider what you point out, Darren.
Yup. Iran has been dealing with relentlessly-hostile, and powerful, adversaries since 1979, and doing so quite skillfully, all things considered. Iranian leaders aren’t even close to the top of the list of actors likely to trigger World War Last. Unfortunately, of course, some of their adversaries are.
However, no one should make the mistake of thinking Iran won’t act, or isn’t able to do so with real impact, if Israel’s mad terror campaign continues unabated.
Iran would involve Hezbollah, Houthis and other militia groups in Syria First before they get involved directly and only as a reaction to an attack by US or Israel…!
Yup.
My guess is that they will push just so far-biding time to finish,test, and deploy their nukes
I don’t know much. I read the Taliban want rides to the front and they’ll walk if they have to.
They are very shrewd,but also have an apocalyptic world view.
They will turn their proxy army in Lebanon on and off,playing a war of attrition.Then when things blowup they will cry-look what the other guy did”
And that would lead to WW3 how?
No one knows what Pakistan,Turkey or Russia ill ultimately do.The taboo on use of nuclear weapons will evaporate.
Actual applied nuclear technology is from the nineteen thirties and forties.
Iran has many thousands of missiles that are able to fly in chosen windows. Many more thousands are decoys.
Nuclear war is Yesterday’s war terrorism.
The purpose of Iran is take Israel off the map, not Palestine off the face of the Earth.
The purpose of Israel is to keep a certain % of Palestinians as hostage for an insurance policy.
Israel and the US are demonstrating an absolutely stunning inability to read the room.
The full text of the state department guy changed my opinion of him a little.
Expand on this, please. I found it pragmatic, but morally insipid, since the sacrifice of such a vast quantity of blood & misery is way deeper than practicality.
That was my initial reaction. But I would never have taken a position like this to begin with. I think this funding and support was the last straw but reading into I think he struggled with it before this time.
Yes, but you and I don’t have an eleven years toward a vested pension, etc.
Indeed.
Like most humans, you may not be exemplar of the purity you demand of others.
Life is complicated and people are complex. And what we’re talking about in this particular exchange is, in the broad sense, politics. Denunciation and rejection of others who may share some of your goals, albeit in your view imperfectly, is an excellent way to reduce the chances of achieving those goals.
This guy has taken part over 11 years in a project so appalling that weasel atonement is far far from enough to retrieve a shred of his own humanity.
An attitude like that is a guarantee of impotence and failure in any political (again, in the broad sense) effort or campaign. I suggest sticking to preaching.
I don’t consider it even a political gain (policy-wise) to prefer that Israel, after exacting sufficient vengeance, let it go and continue the statusquo ante so Washington can kill more Russians and prepare to kill Chinese. For 75 yrs now it’s got us (i.e., the Palestinian cause and the anti-imperial cause) only diminishing returns.
Russia has done a very good job of growing their nuclear forces.Let China leave Taiwan alone.
Blood money.
Attention: Joe Biden
I’m sure that I can assume, you have no desire to leave office, with your hands covered with innocent blood…
Attention: Dems and Reps
We will remember your lack of attention to the sh=t that is about to hit the fan.
If this war continues BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS.
We will NEVER FORGET!!!
PEACE NOW!
Just curious Donna, if you were the President what would you do?
Quit sending billions of dollars to Israel and Ukraine. Use the money to secure our borders instead and improve the lives of American citizens.
Right on!
“Use the money to secure our borders instead and improve the lives of American citizens.”
Well, which one? Those two are opposites.
There should be no borders.
Then there would be fewer wars.
Last I checked, Thelower 48 was full of borders, We have a managed Canadian border, And no wars there. Borders don’t kill people, People do.
In a Perfect World we wouldn’t need clothes either… Are you, ahem, up for that?
As Bernie Sanders said, open borders are a Koch Bros idea. Nations should exist for the benefit of their citizens, not easy access to cheap labor by a handful of billionaires
“Nations should exist”
I’d say the jury’s still out on that one, but history says it returned a death sentence recommendation long ago.
How about the Poiice, Fire and Sanitation Departments? Any insights on them, Oh Great Oracle of History?
What about them? Their legitimate activities don’t require a state or “nation.”
I have served on the finance committee of a small, rural New England town that still practices democracy as people did immediately after the American revolution.
Believe me when I tell you; The concept of depreciating the volunteer fire department roof and every year setting aside untouchable cash for future roof replacement requires government relations and state highways. As I see it.
And yet there have been fire departments and roads neither funded by, nor controlled by, governments. QED, no, government is not required for those things to exist. One might try to make a “more efficient” or “better service” or whatever argument for the state, but that’s a different story.
Their legitimacy is derived from some sort of government entity – so does their paychecks… That is if you want pros on full time call.
In other words, they have no legitimacy and their paychecks are funded by theft.
There have been (and in many places still are) private providers of all those services.
Sure, look how well the private prison system is working out and who is profiting from it.
A prison system funded with tax dollars and run according to government rules isn’t “private.”
Oh so you’re still taxing people. Kind of inconsistent you’re weird world order.
I’m not taxing people anywhere but in your imagination. Nor do I have, or want, a “world order.”
I’m just trying to get a handle on how this governmentless, borderless utopia is going to work… Because if it resembles anything like Mad Max 2 you can count me in!
I don’t believe in utopias.
Apperently. 😆
That’s not true. Think about it.What makes people leave a paradise neighborhood of friends and family?
Hint… Privatization and expropriation plus austerity by a governing class subservient to the US.
Biden could probably get away with cutting aid to Ukraine. But if he significantly cut aid to Israel he would be impeached and removed from office.
Yes, their lobbyists have infested every aspect of American national politics. Ironically, it looks like Matt Gaetz has been the only US politician to stop aid to Israel since George H.W. Bush threatened to cut their funding, albeit indirectly; the House can’t approve funding for Israel if there’s no speaker! https://www.reuters.com/world/israel-war-adds-urgency-us-republican-house-speaker-crisis-2023-10-08/
And when a beleaguered Israel nukes their enemies,don’t complain
Ah, the ultimate in blackmail. Keep the billions flowing or the world gets nuked.
By any means necessary. Agian,what about Egypt;s 3 bil a year?
Again, they don’t get 3 million a year. And again, I’m against what they do get too. And by “any means possible” will mean Israel will be a crater just like the rest of the world.
Jericho missiles can reach most of Russia’s large cities. Not soomething cheerful.MAD.
So, what the fuck is your point?
“any means possible”
Zionish for “ If we can’t have it all, nobody can have anything.”
At least that $ doesn’t come back to bite us on the ass… Remember the Liberty! 🇺🇸
Not much good when you’re “enemy” lives down the street from you.
Wise words, wise words…
It would be far better to put that money in a huge bon fire than send it where were sending it and to who we’re sending it to and for what were sending it for.
The way to secure our borders is to quit destabilizing Latin America.
The other sure way is to legalize all drugs and make them available free with a visit to medical professionals. Totally free.
Audit the books of everyone and their uncle.
Learn to walk the perhaps talk
Me?… Or the President?
;=)
Joe potato of course!!!!
Donna, Tell Tim you would support a secular democracy and the right of return for Palestinians.
That is not going to happen. How about something that is realistic?
I propose the right of return for all native Americans-we can give the Carolinas back to the Cherokee. Anyone who supports the Palestinian right of return can start by giving their own home back to the Native Americans. Can the Jews of Egypt robbed of their homes,raped,beaten, and evicted,return to Egypt?
did somebody steal the Egyptian hoes ?
how can they get any gardening done without their hoes?
You have really added a lot to the discussion.
Egyptian hoes
Let’s leave Cleopatra out of this.
I’m part Comanche, what can I get?… I’d like to have your house…
You can only get part of it. But meantime you have to give up half of yours to a full time native. LOL
Meanwhile you applaud the Vagabond, who must be censored.
I’m probably poorer than you. My ancestors did not evict any comanches,or anybody else.They did not practice Jim Crow.
They didn’t need any practice.. They’re naturals!
4Q
U2
Was that you scalping tickets outside the Roger Waters show?
When did this Egypt business happen ? Is this early 20th century, pre-1948 times when Palestine was largely intact ?
1956.
As Manhattan was purchased from the Native Americans, we’re staying put. The rest of you’s can go to hell!
The blood is on the hands of those who use rape as a tool of war, cut off fingers, and shoot babies in their cribs.
The evidence points to these people being killed in a fire fight caused by the IDFs insane tactics of scorched hostages.
No bibi, without US you won’t win…!
400 nukes say otherwise
And that would be a “win”?
Scary right wars?… Just nuke themselves into oblivion…?!
Sampson option-take your torturers with you-no eviction and dispersion,no death camps,no mass rapes.
Better than having Masada fall again.Better than a third exile.
to this day Israel has never admitted to having nuclear weapons.
so how do you know if they actually have 400 of them?
and for that matter, Israel has never signed the NNPT (nuclear non-proliferation treaty). why is that? oh, so that they can freely sell nuclear weapons to terrorist states, such as South Africa.
and not to be out-done, Iran has signed the NNPT even though they do not have any nuclear weapons. furthermore, the US, being a signatory of the NNPT, is required to assist Iran in building a properly safe nuclear power-plant, which to this day has not even begun to happen.
If they do have nukes, all of them are antique and in need of upgrade
no one knows .
Why would all of them be antique? For various reason, nuclear bombs do have a shelf life. So countries need to constantly rework them and thus keep them up to date.
why should they admit? Its a free country.
Good article from last year: https://thebulletin.org/premium/2022-01/nuclear-notebook-israeli-nuclear-weapons-2022/
I wondered whether Israel had thermonuclear weapons or “merely” atomic weapons. It seems that, according to most available information, as sketchy as it is, that Israel may only have plutonium-based atomic weapons, probably less than 100, but that’s more than enough to cause massive trouble in the neighborhood.
Was there a day in last 21 years that did not see at least one Palestinian killed illegally and unnecessarilly by settler garrison apartheid state of Israel?
Good question. According to the Indian independent journalism site, The Wire, which I know to be honest and careful, between 2008 and the end of last month (September 2023), 6,407 Palestinians were killed in violence.
That’s a period of 5,752 days, so, if it’s accurate, the answer to the question is something like “Probably not,” or “On average, more than one every single day.”
Yes
… And Iran tells Hezbollah to be ready to invade Shebaa Farms…!
Israel needs to snap out of it… It gets harder and harder to support Israel at all and their killing and carnage is beyond explanation or any kind of understanding. How can one defend what is indefensible. The year is 2023. How much more time does Israel need to realize a new approach is needed? If you want PEACE you have to make PEACE.
Israel is saying it may be a long war… but they’re not even engaged and already begging for US assistance. How does this reflect on Israel’s military preparedness? Is the IDF- like its civilian handlers- a lot of smoke and mirrors and in reality without US backing just a paper tiger? Certainly, Israel has the technical and hardware advantage over the Palestinians- but then, the US had that over the Iraqis and Afghans and look who’s left standing and look who left the country. I predict Israel is talking tough but when they finally realize that their actions will come with a price tag as well they’ll stand down. But, mark my words, when they do stand down you can bet your last shekel they’ll spin it so they’re refraining from invading Gaza ‘for humanitarian reasons’ and of course it won’t be because they don’t have the body bags for the sort of fight that will entail. Israel is burning a lot of bridges with the world community, and with its own people.
Why on earth would they do that? The whole point of spending billions on you military is to have an unfair a fight as possible. An invasion of Gaza takes away many many of the IDF’s advantages. Why get into a Mexican knife fight when you can just drone them while eating a donut in your bunker. It isn’t logical.
Pump gas and sea water into their tunnels.The Hamas leaders though,have long since escaped to Egypt.
Gas, a classic weapon where did the Israelis learn that one?
UK used it.
Gaza was a pressure cooker created by Israel….. It was the last stage in their particular implementation of a Zionist run concentration camp. The next step for Gazans will be expulsion into the Sinai
Slowly but surely the next steps, will to do the same thing to the West Bank..
Continue with settlements as the walls close in on the West Bank till it too becomes a concentration camp, reacts and explodes…. and then they get ethnically cleansed into Jordan.
Egypt could have allowed them into Sinai,given them Egyptian citizenship.
Israel could let them return home too. We would have avoided all this if they had obeyed international law or just common decency.
There has been talk of Iran acting. I would say it takes a lot to get Iran to act.Israel has killed several of their scientists. In 1981 Israel attacked an Iranian airbase. More on that: https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2022/aug/11/timeline-israeli-attacks-iran
What kind of monsters deprive women and children of food and water? Who are these monsters who can watch kids die of hunger and thirst? How many innocents will die before the world holds Israel accountable for genocide and crimes against humanity? The 1300 Jews killed in Israel by Hamas have been far outnumbered by the almost 5,000 Palestinians killed by Israel, just this week, — and the hundreds of thousands killed by Israel in the last 75 years. Every Republican and Democrat who refuses to call for a ceasefire, and who votes for military aid to the genocidal state, is complicit in genocide.
“What kind of monsters deprive women and children of food and water”? Hamas. Hamas attacked without any plan how to keep the water going and to have sufficient food reserves. The 5000 Palestinians deaths are all on Hamas.
No, they’re not “all” on Hamas.
Everyone is responsible for what they do.
Including Israelis.
Even if they make excuses.
Excuses are like assholes. Everybody’s got one and they all stink.
TK:
You rock!!!
“The 5000 Palestinians deaths are all on Hamas.”
That’s an especially-ugly example of the look-what-you-made-me-do excuse. It’s despicable when employed by assholes who beat up wives and kids. When used by or on behalf of people engaged in relentless slaughter of thousands of noncombatants . . .
Israel! Make PEACE, not WAR! PEACE would make you International HEROES! It would make you my hero…
The right to exist is a Universal HUMAN RIGHT!
Imagine:
There’s no heaven, it’s easy, if you try… no hell below us, above us only sky… Imagine ALL the PEOPLE, living for today… you may say, I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one, perhaps one day you’ll join us…
AND THE WORLD WILL LIVE AS ONE…
Blessed are the peacemakers…
Thank you John Lennon………
Love that song…!