The Pentagon will exempt its operations supporting Ukraine in the war against Russia from a government shutdown that will happen if Congress fails to pass a funding bill by September 30.
During government shutdowns, the US military typically suspends activities that are deemed not vital to US national security. But Pentagon spokesman Chris Sherwood told POLITICO on Thursday that US support for Ukraine would not be suspended.
“Operation Atlantic Resolve is an excepted activity under a government lapse in appropriations,” Sherwood said, using the name for US military activities in Europe that have come in response to events in Ukraine since 2014, the year a US-backed coup in Kyiv led to Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the civil war in Ukraine’s Donbas region.
US support for Ukraine includes training of Ukrainian forces in the US and in Europe, arms shipments, and providing targeting intelligence. Just two days earlier, Sherwood told POLITICO that US support for Ukraine might be hindered by a shutdown.
The POLITICO report on the Pentagon’s decision to exempt the Ukraine operations came after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky met with Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin in Washington. The Pentagon said Austin met with Zelensky “to reaffirm the steadfast US support for Ukraine.”
The exemption demonstrates the importance the Biden administration has placed on fueling the proxy war in Ukraine. While being done in the name of national security, the policy makes the US much less safe by risking a direct war with Russia, which possesses the world’s largest nuclear arsenal.
Where there’s a will there’s a war. Of course no Americans are dying in this war. Wait till the draft is revived and then, and only then, will the US begin seriously to want this to go away. Too much $$$ being made and political hay.
you nailed that right on the head
We got lots of experience at war. 400 since the founding of this great nation. Only a 16 year gap.
Absolutely unbelievable. Why the hell do we have a Congress anymore – beyond naming post offices? The United States Government is a complete shambles.
I can see no reason not to vote Republican next year, as it has the best (though small) chance of kneecapping the crime syndicate running DC.
“Why the hell do we have a Congress?” Good question. I will answer it. We have a Congress so they can rule us, regardless if we’re Demo Rats or Repugninants, with an iron fist. They do all that while $hitting lies about “democracy and freedom” on our face. …No, Big Brother, I’m not complaining. I enjoy your “boot stamping on” my “human face –forever.” George Orwell, RIP. (Sarcasm)
Voting republican will just change the crime boss. Bitching about aid to Ukraine is wonderful if it weren’t for the fact that they have a different priority for those funds and it sure as fuck isn’t to spend it domestically.
If the current administration is thrown out, I’ll take it as a plus, though a small one. I have no real long term hopes for either the GOP or the country, but I’ll take deleting Biden and his gang of idjits either way, however small the victory.
Long term? Fall of Rome.
They cannot b*tch too much, or, their MIC sugar daddy will not give them their loot to campaign on.
What domestic operations did they exempt?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-government-shutdown-what-closes-what-stays-open-2023-09-21/
Wow! Complete lawlessness in DC. Agencies and military do as they please.
Good to see the deep state keep chugging along. We don’t have money to fix collapsing roads or provide our citizens with medical care (beyond providing a billionth Covid booster), but plenty of $ for the big guy and his friends.
Damn it, now Putin won’t get the break he needed.
Not like he’s asked for a break. I’d say Putin is content to have the US stay the course they’re on.
So, who’s the autocrat now Joe?
autocrat = is that even a real word?
i give up. everybody is smarter than me
making up yalls own new words = “autocrat”
just try to post the F word and see what happens.
but can post “autocrat” all day long….
what
You were right. Wait for it.
Autocrat: A ruler who has absolute power. I think Biden used this word to describe Putin.
I thought an Autocrat was a Demo-crat with an Automatic machine gun, indiscriminately killing people for “democracy and freedom.” But on second thought, with either explanation the math still works out just the same. (Sarcasm)
Ignorance = Freedom
Fuck.
Yep.
Turns out the Republicans on Putin’s payroll don’t have the juice they thought they had.
Yawn.
Bothers you, doesn’t it, when the Republican stooges just stomp their feet, hold their breath, and achieve nothing? Thats why they keep losing too.
Zzz
Bothers you, doesn’t it, when the Republican stooges just stomp their feet, hold their breath, and achieve nothing? Thats why they keep losing too.
Fuck yeah!
Congress can have a say in whether Ukraine donations are “an excepted activity.” The DoD can state a bureaucratic position, but it has no power to make law.
It has no “power of the purse,” either — that is only for the House, and not even for all of Congress.
The House is controlled by Republicans, and they have said no in a letter released today.
“It has no ‘power of the purse,’ either — that is only for the House, and not even for all of Congress.”
The Constitution says otherwise.
Article I, Section 7, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution is known as the Origination Clause because it provides that “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives.”
“The precedents and practices of the House apply a broad standard and construe the
House’s prerogatives broadly to include any “meaningful revenue proposal.” This standard is
based on whether the measure in question has revenue-affecting potential, and not simply whether
it would raise or lower revenues directly”
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/RL/RL31399#:~:text=Article%20I%2C%20Section%207%2C%20clause,since%20the%20Constitution%20was%20drafted.
That’s very nice.
It doesn’t support your claim, though.
Actually, it does, given past practice and how twisted lawyers can be with Constitutional language. I agree a layman’s reading would not think so. But that is what it is understood to mean in practice.
The House has the power of the purse. It can pass — or decline to pass — whatever appropriations it chooses.
The Senate also has the power of the purse. It can pass — or decline to pass — whatever appropriations it chooses.
The requirement that bills for raising revenue “originate” in the House doesn’t obviate the Senate’s power of the purse. Either both houses of Congress agree, or the executive branch doesn’t get the money.
That is true. However, the power to originate is essential, and that is why it was specifically given to the House. Now, with the House controlled by a Speaker and winger party on the rampage, that does make a difference.
Mark, I’ve given up on hope and wishful thinking. Those Repugninants pretending to be against the war are only doing it half-heartedly. Have you seen the long individual letters they wrote defending their decisions, while criticizing Demo rats for not being muscular enough against Russia and China? (Sarcasm)
Congress, by law, which it passed, has delegated the authority to determine which “activities” are “exempted” to various bureaucrats, including those in the DOD. The Pentagon is not making law here, rather, it is exercising authority it has under law
Also, a “letter” signed by however many Congresspersons has no force of law whatsoever.
Games People Play
i don’t wanna live here no more
We can justify anything!
Why? Because we say so. Also fkkk you East Palestine and Lahaina🤦♂️😖
Operation Atlantic Resolve? Morons.
Those little names the American military machine gives to its wars, proxy wars, and other dubious adventures are pretty revealing. “Resolve” is a bullying, and yet at the same time, kinda mealy mouthed term. We are showing “resolve,” by sending Ukie grandpas and teens to go die so that Russia can be “weakened.” OK, sure! And the “Atlantic” part really kills me. As in “NATO,” the Atlantic Ocean has been left far, far behind, in the USA’s drang noch osten!
“Pentagon Exempts Ukraine Operations from Potential Government Shutdown”! In that case, include Pentagon funding in the shutdown!!