Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba on Thursday told critics of Ukraine’s slow counteroffensive to “shut up” amid a flood of leaks from Western officials pinning the blame for the lack of success on Ukrainian commanders.
“Criticizing the slow pace of (the) counteroffensive equals … spitting into the face of (the) Ukrainian soldier who sacrifices his life every day, moving forward and liberating one kilometer of Ukrainian soil after another,” Kuleba told reporters, according to Reuters.
“I would recommend all critics to shut up, come to Ukraine and try to liberate one square centimeter by themselves,” he added.
In recent weeks, US and other Western officials speaking anonymously to the media have criticized Ukraine’s fighting tactics and complained that Ukrainian commanders are too worried about casualties. Western officials also acknowledged to The Wall Street Journal that they did not believe Ukraine had enough training or equipment to dislodge Russian forces, but hoped they would anyway.
Kuleba’s comments came as other Ukrainian officials are claiming gains in the Zaporizhzhia Oblast. The Journal reported Thursday that Ukraine has “penetrated the main Russian defensive line” for the first time in the country’s southeast and is fighting on the edge of the village of Verbove.
However, the Ukrainian success is not confirmed. The Moscow-appointed governor of Zaporizhzhia said Russian forces “eliminated” two Ukrainian assault groups attempting to break through Russian defenses around Verbove. He claimed Ukrainian forces were scaling back their activity in Zaporizhzhia due to heavy casualties.
The Washington Post recently reported that US intelligence has determined the counteroffensive will fail to meet its core objective of severing Russia’s land bridge to Crimea. Despite the expected failure, the US is prepared to continue supporting the proxy war and has shown no interest in diplomacy.
They have made gains and are firing on Russia’s first line of defenses. The issue is “at what cost” Ukraine has lost hundreds of armored vehicles and thousands of men moving 8,000 meters south in the last 7 weeks.
How is that sustainable now that they face the fortified positions Russia prepared.
Don’t forget that Russia is also losing thousands of soldiers weekly but that’s a taboo discussion here.
According to some posters here, Ukraine has lost about 1.2M in the last 18 months not counting wounded in action. Mysteriously, they’ve also lost more equipment than they had.
Add to that, that according to pro Russia bloggers, most equipment delivered by the West has been destroyed. That means that Ukraine is fighting with 300 men and 15 armored vehicles. Perhaps Marvels Nuland and Sullivan are helping with their superpowers.
At what cost is Ukraine fighting? At the cost that if they don’t fight, they lose their land and if they give up, Putin will come back to annex more land a few years later. And I don’t know you, but when it comes to defend your motherland, family, and freedom, I won’t care if I die.
That said, Slava Ukraini!!!!
They must really regret not sticking with the path of diplomacy (Minsk), or before that democracy (maiden coup). Land, country and freedom were right there to keep for merely not taking the rights and lives of others.
Remember, the Ukrainians overwhelmingly voted for Zelensky for peace.
Oh …. the irony of it all.
The Ukrainian political class picked up tips on how to lie and deceive the public form American politicians.
After 2014 coup any voting in Ukraine is just as useless as voting within Anglo-American empire. They control the puppet regime and offer “candidates” for people to vote on. Meaningless circus to give people the illusion of democracy. Very clever trick, I must say. Not only the people can’t peacefully remove the occupational puppet regime, the parasites can make the people blame themselves for making the “democratic” choice.
No doubt, but that doesn’t mean the Ukrainians didn’t want peace. They were screwed.
I don’t know any rational person who wants war. On their land or even close to it. Anyone who wants war, starts wars or supports wars must experience it first hand. The parasites in Washington and London must pay for their crimes.
one way or another they have the legal system in their pocket – think of Julian Assange and here’s a podcast with another example that alrming – Down The Banking Rabbit Hole With Trevor Kitchen – UK Column Radio – https://www.spreaker.com/user/acrnetwork/down-the-banking-rabbit-hole-with-trevor
Minsk was a delaying tactic so the yanks could build up Ukrainian forces , Merkel admitted to it .
So did others.
No, they don’t.
I’m sure they’d rather live free that on their knees.
Who the hell trusted Putin with the Minsk agreement? Not even Putin himself believed in it and violated it himself. He just wanted to buy more time to prepare his invasion that the West had been warning us about for years, just like they warned us about the invasion Putin denied. Putin didn’t even honor the agreement with Prigozhin.
“I’m sure they’d rather live free that on their knees.”
That’s just a slogan warmongers like you mouth to keep Ukrainians dying to the last young man.
But truth is you don’t know that at all – or even care:
“In Lviv, a city in the West that has avoided serious shelling, wives and mothers …have protested, terrified about their husbands’ and sons’ deployment into combat in the East. To assuage concerns, a commander…met with about 200 women in a concert hall but the conversation devolved into screaming and crying, local media reported.” https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/01/world/europe/ukraine-russia-losses-east.html
Well put!
That’s not how it works. Majority of people in Ukraine never wanted any of this mess and older generation still want to live in the USSR. The Union have never ended for them. Ukraine is an occupied territory and the population is a victim of imperial parasites.
The very few nazies were used to implement a violent coup and enslave the majority. People in Ukraine have no say in how the occupational puppet regime operate. This invasion and occupation of Ukraine cannot be solved with diplomacy. The only way to liberate Ukraine and the rest of Europe from Anglo-American occupation is to destroy the Anglo-American empire. Kremlin knows this and its really frustrating they aren’t punishing the culprits.
Oh, forgot to mention the entire reason for my reply. It’s Maidan Nezalezhnosti. (Independence Square. Maidan means square.)
They had a chance to keep their land, but decided they would rather prosecute a cultural genocide against Russian speaking Ukrainians. This could have all been solved at the negotiating table ensuring the territorial integrity of Ukraine, but then the MIC would lose a perfect opportunity to make cash money hos and also launder illicit funds.
Standard Russian BS propaganda. Try something else.
He’s right and you know it. But there’s that BS retort again. Plus, he didn’t even mention the peace deal that could have happened in the spring of ’22 that would have left Ukraine close to being fully intact. At least closer than what they will eventually have to settle for.
This is how I like to start my day wars…
A little bit of infighting on antiwar is a good way to get the juices flowing….
But not too much bloodletting, please and thank you…
A self-inflicted torture, I say.
I’ve blocked that useless troll.
Your reply is to someone I blocked. I don’t know what he said. But to reinforce your point, the people of the Donbass and of Crimea strongly supported the notion of regional autonomy before and after the coup. If the ultra-nationalists, and their western backers, had not pushed them into a corner, Ukraine would be at peace today.
Standard Russian BS propaganda.
That’s what he said. His standard answer.
That’s right.
And you support the invasion and annexation of Ukraine. Another one of my standard responses.
The irony of a self called antiwar.
Well, you seem to believe that a foreign power overthrowing a elected government seems to make the resultant post coup regime legitimate.
Hey, are you antiwar?
Before you answer, read the fuking definition.
No one that supports the violent overthrow of a government at the behest of a outside power can claim the mantle of being anti war. Neither can supporting ethnic cleansing be considered anti war. You are simply a Russia hater.
Getting a little testy there Julio. That’s ok, just turn that TV on and go to one of your favorite sources of news, is it CNN or MSNBC? Either way, you can find comfort in the fact that the Ukranians will be chasing those Russkies back to Moscow soon, as you stated in one of your posts a while back.
I have one too. Don was a loyal Putin fanboy as recently as 2014. Now tell us Don, did Putin do anything nefarious, in your mind, before 2014?
Hey wars, you support the invasion and annexation of Ukraine. What are you doing here?
I know, coming after the Ukraine supporters.
And I’ll repeat that many more times.
Why do you keep proving my point about you being a f*cking platitude machine?
FU wars.
You support the invasion and annexation of Ukraine.
Dont try to spin it
You’ve got nothing.
Just come clean. Admit that you are anti US/west and Ukraine.
You won’t t have to come up with excuses anymore. Free yourself.
You’re not too bright, are you?
This person has taken to outright spamming the site, and it’s all personal.
I have to admire Antiwar’s tolerance in this instance. Some sites would have banned DJ’s behind. Good for Antiwar.
Why do you keep proving my point about you being a f*cking platitude machine?
What part of my comment is propaganda? Please be specific. By my count the Ukraine has had at least three chances at the negotiating table to solve this diplomatically: the Minsk protocol, Minsk II, and the negotiations in Turkey shortly after the Russian invasion.
And Russia had those same three chances as well.
The negotiations in Turkey ended shortly after Lavrov rejected the most recent Ukrainian draft on behalf of Russia because it didn’t give Russia eternal, perpetual, unilateral veto power over all Ukrainian military activity.
As for Minsk I and Minsk II, it’s hard to find any evidence that any of the party regimes (Ukraine, Russia, and the two Donestk republics’ Russian proxy regimes) thought of either of them as anything but breathing space to prepare for further hostilities.
“because it didn’t give Russia eternal, perpetual, unilateral veto power over all Ukrainian military activity.”
I believe you’re exaggerating a tad.
Take it up with Lavrov. He’s the one who said exactly that, plainly, in public.
I believe it was about those “military exercises” that they were most concerned about. I also believe that there was a bunch more of those planned for 2022 but Putin had already taken the bait by then.
“Putin had already taken the bait” – you mean, Putin could allow the genocide of Donbass people? And what next? Ukrainian/NATO attack on Crimea? That is exactly what would happen if Russia didn’t intervened militarily in this war in February 2022.
If Putin wanted to stop what was happening in the Donbass, he didn’t have to invade the whole of Ukraine. He did exactly what the West (US) wanted him to do.
Putin sent some troops to Kiev in order to force Kiev regime to negotiate. It worked. Then Boris Johnson came to Kiev and stopped the negotiation.
You are also forgetting that Russia needed the land bridge to Crimea. So Zaporozhie and Kherson oblasts also had to be invaded.
Here’s a pretty good overview of at least the Minsk protocol and Minsk II:
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2020/05/minsk-conundrum-western-policy-and-russias-war-eastern-ukraine-0/minsk-2-agreement
It seems to me that if Ukraine had guaranteed Russian speaking Ukrainians’ rights that would have went a long way towards preventing a Russian invasion. Obviously there’s no way to litigate this particular point at this late date. As the Chatham House analysis I linked to above points out it basically comes down to what degree is Ukraine a sovereign nation.
I think we can all agree that Ukraine is just as sovereign as Canada or Mexico is sovereign. How does anyone think that the U.S. government would react if either of our neighbors concluded military pacts with Russia or China? What if Russia or China planned to put medium range nuclear missiles in Mexico or Canada? How would the U.S. react? I think the Cuban missile crisis provides us with that answer.
Does this mean that I support Russia’s war in Ukraine or “want them to win”? No, obviously like any normal human being who has not been propagandized by the MSM I abhor war in all its forms. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t understand the Russian perspective, nor does it mean I am not able to see that they have legitimate security concerns re Ukraine (especially given that the last time they were invaded through Ukraine they lost something like 27-40 million people).
Either way the quicker Ukraine gets to the negotiating table the better the outcome for all involved…well except for the war profiteers and money launderers that is.
Does this mean that I support Russia’s war in Ukraine or “want them to win”? No, obviously like any normal human being who has not been propagandized by the MSM I abhor war in all its forms. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t understand the Russian perspective, nor does it mean I am not able to see that they have legitimate security concerns re Ukraine (especially given that the last time they were invaded through Ukraine they lost something like 27-40 million people).
My thoughts EXACTLY. Some morons here just can’t understand that.
They did what they were paid for. US invested some billions $ for promotion of “democracy”. That is how this “democracy” looks out.
F#ck ethnic cleansers. And that’s what the Kiev regime was doing.
At what cost is Ukraine fighting? At the cost that if they don’t fight, they lose their land and if they give up, Putin will come back to annex more land a few years later. And I don’t know you, but when it comes to defend your motherland, family, and freedom, I won’t care if I die.
Once more with Putin coming back to take more. You can’t seem to make up your mind whether Putin’s military is a “paper tiger” or Putin is the next Hitler. And I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t be willing to die so the West can weaken Russia if I were a Ukranian. Especially when it’s between the flag of one corrupt government or the other being planted in my yard.
That said, Slava Ukraini!!!!
Don’t you mean continue to “Slaughter Ukrainians” so the West can weaken Russia? You’ve made it known that you’re good with that no matter how many times the West (US) openly admits to it.
Bravo.
Shut up. Putin’s war supporter.
Your arguments are BS.
Again, you support the invasion and annexation of Ukraine.
Dont be looking for an exit.
.
Mr. Platitude strikes again.
And im fuking right.
Learn to spell.
Is that your come back?
Fuk of.
“And im puking right.”
Puking all over the website does not make you “right” – just a revolting disgrace.
Now get mopping, ya peasant ear-chopping deplorable – you’ve fouled the site enough for one day.
No, you’re wrong. In fact, it was you who admitted to being a Putin fanboy, not me. It is you that supports more war, not me. And finally, it is you that is willing to allow Ukrainians to die while ignoring the US’ callous disregard for those same lives, not me. Those are facts. What you say about me is just bullshit that you spew because you can’t refute what I say.
You seem to be another one who dosen`t want to face the fact that this war was Western inspired , Nullan on the phone picking the new leader , saying F the EU who are allegedly allies , bragging about having invested 5 billion on the coup ect ect ect , not only the the NATO LACKEY Stolenburg admitted the war began in 1992 , so don`t give me you Anti Russian BS and Russia started the war .
Another one.
Putin, the so called “adult in the room” invaded. Enough said.
Where’s your criticism of Putin, the number 1 belligerent in this war?
Throw some critics at him then cone back with your argument. Til then, you are just another supporter of Putin’s personal war.
They learned about invasions from the US. – Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, and Syria, and none of those were an existential threat to the US’s existence.
And invading the mighty and dangerous enclave of Grenada proved America is a true liberator! LOL
Ouchy…… touched a nerve.
No……..he just has a burr up his butt.
“has a burr up his butt.”
the crudity and aggression – bet he’s drunk. seriously.
Here’s my nerve. Greetings from Fuking Norway.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/49c043a898b6db5f58ad8d5418b0518d4e3dc52aa7bc006a4a37fe597f48385a.jpg
So…. Up yours, Putin lover.
You’re a National Gathering fellow.
“Your arguments are BS.”
He’s not the one making unsupported claims – that would be you:
“[I]f [Ukrainians]…give up, Putin will…annex more land a few years later”?
Advance thanks for supporting an otherwise worthless claim.
Another a$$wipe
🤣
There is a good term I picked up from one of the pundits on RT. Russophrenia. Russophrenia is like schizophrenia. A degenerate mind disease of Russia being all powerful and weak at the same time.
Whatever useless troll you’re feeding here seem to suffer from Russophrenia.
Drink!
🤣. I said it 🤷🏽♂️
Not to mention there was no need for a war Putin tried to avoid a war but the yanks / Brits where having none of it , all the information is there if you care to look for it , which most don`t because it destroys their narrative .
He tried so hard he invaded. Lol.
Such a stupid statement.
All the Kremlin propaganda info is there for me to check.
Yes, i will definitely look into it.
Perfect example of you ignoring history prior to invasion. Again.
Perfect example of you continuing your anti US stand.
Perfect example of you replying to something with another platitude that makes zero sense in relation to what my comment said.
Julio giving us another update from the front line. You belong working for one of the MSM outlets because you have their talking points down. Ukraine…Good, Russia….Bad. Ukraine….Winning, Russia…..Losing. You just might work for one of the media outlets, otherwise how can one explain your stupidity. By the way Julio, did you see all the countries that are signing up to join the BRICS coalition? Some people do get it.
Shut up, Bill.
That’s probably the most intelligent thing you’ve said since I’ve been on here. But no, I have to respond to your nonsensical statements. Sorry, Dumb, Dumb.
“They have made gains and are firing on Russia’s first line of defenses. The issue is ‘at what cost’-”
Guess this is yr source:
“U.S. Joint Chiefs’ Gen. Milley cites Ukrainian counteroffensive ‘breakthrough'”
https://news.yahoo.com/u-joint-chiefs-gen-milley-170250389.html?
Multiple sources seem to agree that – w/enormous losses- Ukrainians got Robotyne:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/28/world/europe/ukraine-robotyne-russia-counteroffensive.html
But the “first line” claim? Dunno…
…not saying it’s false…but a lot of claims are hard to verify in ‘the fog of war’…and at least one source uses maps and pics to argue the “firing on Russia’s first line of defenses” claim is false:
“August 28, 2023 Ukraine SitRep – U.S. To Prolong Its Proxy War: Milley is uttering deluded nonsense.”
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
I think Ukraine has already stretched its troops to the point where they won’t be able to defend the gains they have made in most areas. In the area around Robotyne, their supply lines are under Russian fire control, and what they call a “flower” bridgehead looks to me more like a self-imposed cauldron.
And there you have it without the infantry numbers Ukraine is a lost cause , if Zelenskiy had any brains he would call for a cease fire and begin peace talks , but we all know his masters in Washington won`t let him .
It’s not just his masters in Washington. It’s also his ultranationalist masters in Ukraine.
The ultranationalists in Ukraine take orders from Anglo-American empire. Useful idiots is what they are
Yeah that’s pretty much the extent of advance of AFU mamelukes in this counter-counter-offensive. Any advance they make becomes a cauldron and Russians simply wipe them out with aviation and artillery.
Watching a video on Rabotino right now.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JNVu17SAb1U/
Our soldiers got beaten by some highly motivated goat herders. So I think we ought to be a little bit respectful of soldiers that are going up against a large and well equipped foe.
Respecting soldiers? Sure, they are only following order in what they’ve been told is an existential war.
But the politicians like Kuleba and politician-generals? No respect whatsoever.
Wow! If I wasn’t sitting down, I would have fallen over. This a truly shocking statement coming from you.
I would have thought that the statement that the Russian military is larger and better equipped than the Taliban would be relatively uncontroversial
Your admission that the Pentagon had its ass handled by the Taliban is what i find so shocking.
Obviously your mercs in Ukraine are better trained and equiped than the Taliban
How is that not obvious? The USA $hit away 6 trillion dollars in the ME a massive defeat. Low USA body count so the yokels don’t complain to much and blame the Mexicans as they bounce from pothole to pothole on their way to work with no medical coverage.
Ain’t that the fucking truth.
When big boss Kuleba is talking, all NATO officials should shut up and listen.
Where can we sign up Bill Kristol and Max Boot?
Those cowards will never engage in any conflict greater than a zoom call.
They are in favor of any war, any where, any time….. as long as they don’t have to fight it or pay for it
NATO has already lost; 466 Aircraft, 247 helicopters, 6266 UAV’s, 434 Anti Aircraft systems, 11578 tanks inc. APC’s, 1147 multiple rocket launchers, 6145 field artillery and 12570 military automotive equipment. Approx. $1 Trillion of NATO hardware.
The AFU committed its last reserve brigade with western equipment to its disastrous so called counter-offensive. It will get ground up just like the forces it is replacing. Approx. $1 trillion of NATO support. Keep in mind Ukraine was the biggest and most equipped NATO army in Europe and Russia just mauled them.
It could not have happened to nicer people.
Gajillions of tanks & X-Wing fighters, an entire Battlestar, Tom Hanks squad from Saving Private Ryan, and ALL of those toy soldiers from Toy Story! F**king tragic, I tell ya’!
What about Russians are dumb and only destroy maternity hospitals since their bomb chips come from old dishwashers? …What’s that? …You’re telling me to shut up and respect the Ukrainians dying to “liberate Ukraine?” …WAIT A COTTON PICKING MINUTE!? If you were to “liberate Ukraine,” didn’t you already sell it?
“If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.” – Mark Twain (Sarcasm)
If Crimea is part of “Occupied Ukraine,” why does the map show it as part of Russia? Just askin’.
It’s a Russian map. SouthFront Press is a Russian company, based in Crimea.
Yes, that’s true. And Crimea has been (again) since 2014, and remains, part of Russia. That’s the case and will almost certainly remain the case. There is no realistic chance of anyone changing that reality, although very bad things are already happening, and could get much worse, as Ukraine and its masters and sponsors try to change it.
For starters, it’s Dave DeCamp map.
But if you see my map, it’ll have it as part of Ukraine, How it should be for the rest of us non Putin lovers
Article headline click bait.
Huge difference in context between:
“Ukraine Tells Counteroffensive Critics to ‘Shut Up’”
AND
“I would recommend all critics to shut up, come to Ukraine and try to liberate one square centimeter by themselves,”
Actually, very little difference. SHUT UP is the operative word in both. Especially when he added the part that they come and do it themselves.
Hence my click bait.
And there’s an immense difference between those. Huge. But not to you, conveniently.
No. The addition would have added click bait value.
The only difference is his addition was him giving a reason as to why they should shut up.
Are you Dave DeCamp now?
Ok, antiwar just upgraded you to platinum.
That makes no sense. But, what’s new.
That’s the tiniest media distortion I’ve ever seen, and I see dozens of them every day.
Evidently, the Uke-Nazis have reached Russia’s first line of defense in one area at great cost. Although, all they have achieved is to create a cauldron that will become their doom. This is how a defense war is waged.
“I would recommend all critics to shut up, come to Ukraine and try to liberate one square centimeter by themselves,” he added.
This guy gets it. Ordinarily, you don’t bite the hand the feeds you but apparently US officials must think he can’t read. Similar to some people who comment here. Now let’s all hope these casualty adverse Ukrainians will take all of the HOPE and COURAGE we’ve sent them to successfully conduct a counteroffensive so our investment can show some returns.
This hand is feeding Ukrainian cannon fodder to the meatgrinder.
I volunteer our esteemed (though somewhat used-up) president and his entire team as fodder for the great liberation.
pResident Brandon isn’t capable of fighting out of his corruption scandal. He is a controlled puppet, nothing more.
Well they aren’t wrong about having it tough. But telling everyone to shut up wont make that counter-offense anymore productive.
Agreed. BUT, we do exactly the same every time our endless wars fail against poor, uneducated, and starving to death people. We also ban any pictures of returning coffins out of “respect” for our dead soldiers. Anyone in the MSM criticizing our crazy wars as un-“productive?” …Plenty? …We have “Press Freedom!” …Okay, my bad. (Sarcasm)
Oh, but it is sooooo productive. You tankies can’t wish away the success!
Meanwhile, how’s it going for the Russian masses?
https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-drone-strikes-threaten-turn-moscow-no-fly-zone-1823959
Hahaha. Tankie tears are flowing!
What lovely pictures you are showing us of the eastern front. I shall name you Incel Adams.
South of Bakhmut doesn’t look so good for your boyfriend Putin, does it, a**wipe?
He is an as$wipe. The leader of.
King of the Dips**ts!
A$$wipe. 🤣
How is it going for the Ukrainian people? Maybe you don’t know, or is it because you just don’t care?
It takes decency and integrity to have a conscience, this nation’s officials don’t have it. They are morally and intellectually bankrupt and deserve to go to hell.
Like Graham and Romney are proud to run a profitable war for little money, the return on their investment is fantastic, the best ever. They make me want to puke, honorable people, what a joke, simply disgusting. A POS in the oval office is governing the nation, nothing to be proud of.
I’ve gotta go with he just doesn’t care.
The Ukrainian PEOPLE have decided what they can accept. Maybe you tankies are seeing that the Ukes are actually determined to fight until their land is free?
“The Ukrainian PEOPLE have decided what they can accept.”
Might depend which Ukrainian people you ask:
“In Lviv, a city in the West that has avoided serious shelling, wives and mothers …have protested, terrified about their husbands’ and sons’ deployment into combat in the East. To assuage concerns, a commander…met with about 200 women in a concert hall but the conversation devolved into screaming and crying, local media reported.” https://www.nytimes.com/202…
The Ukrainian people decided nothing, the hegemon in Washington did. Be honest.
Men 18 to 60 can’t leave the country. Was that the choice of the Ukrainian PEOPLE?
Dude, you are getting worse.
Holy sh!t. You cannot help it.
You have to defend the Kremlin and attack west and ukraine.
And you have to twist yourself into a pretzel to make any kind of connection that what I said was defending the Kremlin or attacking the West and Ukraine. I would say the same about ANY country, including Russia. Or are you for forced conscription?
Those Ukrainian men who escaped to EU, eventually, will be hunted down and returned back to Ukraine. There are about a couple of millions of them in EU, or maybe more.
Yes.
Except for the ones that want to leave of course. Right?
Hey Lysandra. Take your BS propaganda back to Russia. They need it there badly. We dont. And stop sucking on Putin so much and try figure out your next job.
He may fall off a building unannounced.
The truth hurts, doesn’t it?
LOL you monotheists and your ideas of punishment. In Norse mythology, (that’s where Christians have taken the name) Hel isn’t really a bad place. Just gloomy. There are several underworlds in Norse mythology.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/94dced9f24dec2ab1c6f5c781f79717b8fde90fd2d0c27b1cf73f1c233390203.jpg
Yes, they should follow the U.S. lead on Afghanistan, Iraq and even Vietnam, sterling victories.
Ahhh… they can’t follow that lead because Ukraine didn’t invade anybody.
Many ways to invade a country dummy.
Yes, and many ways to support the invading country. Something you guys are really good at, jacka$$
Bill, Im in your head, man. You suck
Seriously.
Hey, if there’s a war between US and Russia, which side will you take?
If there’s a war between the U.S.A. and Russia there will be no sides you ignorant fascist scum.
Oh, allow me to turn the question to you.
If there’s a war between US and Putin, which side would you take?
Simple question.
Only difficult to pro Kremlin / fake antiwar folks here
If there is a Shock and Awe war between the US and Russia there won’t BE sides. Our job creators will relocate to the southern hemisphere and leave us to rot.
So are you in favor of the US job creators from their new locations, or in favor of Russia?
Edit: Never mind. Just not worth it. Just, Wow! GOOOO TEAM!!
Good. Thanks. I dont need your dumbass comments in defense of Russia.
My previous comment that I edited wasn’t a defense of Russia, since I don’t defend them. It just stated that you asked a stupid fucking question and you’re an imbecile for doing so. You equate war to a sporting event.
If there is actually a war between the US and Russia, we will ALL be dead or soon to die. And the living may envy the dead. Just the same, the neoconservative US-NATO fools keep believing Russia will cow to their aggression. I want the Ukraine conflict to stop before things go completely haywire.
That’s your way to avoid answering the question because you won’t say US.
If you are asking who is at fault for the Ukraine conflict, the answer is plainly that it is the USA. The map leading to the Ukraine conflict was drawn up back in 1991 by Paul Wolfowitz. It is therefore called the Wolfowitz Doctrine and it is predicated on the US holding and maintaining unipolar dominant power over the world economy and global politics. It is the precursor to Bush Jr.’s New World Order and Obama’s Rules-Based Order. You can find it at the National Archives (archives.gov). I recommend you read it.
Thanks for this. The cover video is very good, but those who may not remember Lehrer in his performing days (I remember) should have the opportunity to experience one of hid performances.
One of the lyric lines could be updated:
Nearly threemore than eight billion hunks of well-done steakImagine, three billion to eight billion in only 64 years.
It’s OK to change the lyrics, or do whatever you feel moved to do with his music. Tom Lehrer has relinquished all his copyrights:
https://tomlehrersongs.com/
There WILL be sides, you ignorant. And you’ll take the Russian side just like the vast majority here.
It was a simple question but never an easy one to the bloggers here.
Stop using this site to spread your Russian propaganda. .
The vast majority here will be on the side of Truth.
Which in your case it will always be the Kremlin.
It turns out that this is exactly correct. The US MSM and its fake news tells a lot more lies than Russian news sources.
US MSM: lots of lies, and the truth that is published is highly embellished.
Russian sources: mostly accurate, with moderate amounts of embellishment.
Sadly, your sarcastic remark about Russia being honest has an uncomfortable amount of authentic truth.
Dude, you promote Russian propaganda here and you use the russian state controlled media sources. Yeah very honest source.
You don’t need to lecture me. I follow Russian news and its completely unreliable.
Like when they claim to have killed more Ukrainian soldiers than they ever mobilized and more equipment than they ever had. And the numbers are way above exaggerated standards
Actually this one is better:
Maybe not pertaining to who invaded who, but the Ukraine will most surely lose just like the U.S. military lost all those wars.
The US did it for the Ukraine, the Obama/Biden criminals removed the elected Ukrainian government and replaced it with neo-Nazi Fascists, robbing Ukrainians of their sovereignty, turning Ukraine in a de facto NATO member provoking Russia with military NATO exercises and the threat to station nuclear weapons on Russia’s border. TRUSTING the promise of NATO support given them against Russia.
This is Biden’s war, no matter how you slice it. The deranged man is not satisfied to end it, he is out for more war not less.
Supporting the Biden/Nuland/Neo-Nazi neocon war criminals committing genocide of the Ukrainian people makes you complicit. Biden has refused every offer to negotiate an end of the slaughter, he is up to his neck in blood and makes no effort to end it.
Spot on!
You are another Wars.
Phony antiwar.
Blaming it all on US, West, and Ukraine but Russia? Hell no, they are the enemy of my enemy. They get zero criticism.
DJ:
Why are you so abrasive and combative?….
……………………………………………………………..
In your case, you know why. Dont play stupid.
I’ve been calling out your BS for over a year.
Don, your judgement does not count anyway.
I honestly don’t know what a tankie is, I don’t get the reference, please explain.
“Tankie” refers to supporters of Soviet communism who cheered the invasions of e.g. Hungary and Czechoslovakia as “liberations.”
“refers to supporters of Soviet communism who cheered the invasions of e.g. Hungary and Czechoslovakia as ‘liberations.'”
Ok wow so he’s even more unhinged than I thought.
He’s abrasive and combative because he’s a fascist of the American flavor who fervently hates Russian fascists unaware of how the status quo benefits both the Russian and American fascist regimes. In a word he’s ignorant.
Says the kremlin supporter.
Prove I support the Kremlin. You can’t because I don’t. I support neither the criminal government of the U.S.A. nor the criminal government of Russia. I support humanity you ignorant fascist scum.
Ok tankie. 🤣👍
What do you think a “tankie” is?
So, you couldn’t prove that he supports neither the criminal government of the U.S.A. nor the criminal government of Russia, so you whip out yet another platitude. “Kremlin supporter” didn’t work? Not to worry, let’s go with “tankie” then. The clown show continues.
Why do you attack nations thousands of miles removed from the USA?
No one threatened the US, now the US policies are in the process to blow up the US empire.
Hi DJ:
I guess you might be right. We can test your thesis, after I kick your a–.
Don:
“And yes, i’m against US invasion of all previous wars.”
” I used to respect Putin and side with him a while ago, that stopped in 2014“
In 2014 Putin did something awful, he didn’t allowed US to create a navy base in Crimea. Also he didn’t allowed Ukrainian neo-Nazis to start a massacre of Crimean civilians. Of course, a lot of people in US were upset about that.
How dare he did not proceed with the Yeltsin policies, namely robbing Russia.
Trump made money before the Putin years.
Kudos to Trump, he respects Putin and he had the courage and backbone to stand up for it.
Trump also wanted to put a Trump tower in Moscow. Much respect to Trump. 🤣
He never did get his tower because Yeltsin was gone, but he still respected Putin. That will not help him to get reelected in 2024.
It depends who Trump is in the room with at any given time.
“There’s never been a president as tough on Russia as I have been,” Trump told reporters.
“I’m the one that gave Ukraine offensive weapons and tank killers. Obama didn’t. You know what he sent? He sent pillows and blankets. I’m the one — and he’s the one that gave away a part of Ukraine” Trump said in a “60 Minutes” interview .
You are right, that is all true, that is why I never believed the the collusion accusation with Putin, but Trump respected Putin the man, he never denigrated Putin like Biden does. The neocons did not like it.
Trump is unpredictable.
Trump is very predictable. I can predict that the next thing he says will be either a lie or a compliment to himself.
True, but that does not exclude other actions where he is unpredictable. He disappointed the neocons in my opinion compared to Biden.
So what? I said that. What’s your fucking point?
Do i need to suck Putin’s d and never disagree with him like you?
Not all of us support Putin invasions and annexations of neighboring countries.
You’ve got nothing on me, pal.
You are the confused one here. Im having beers now. What are you doing? Researching dirt on me? 🤣. What a fluffer. .
“Im having beers now.”
Uh…oh – bingeing again, alkey?
My fucking point WAS that you said it. Me, never
You were sucking Putin’s D up until 2014. Me, never.
I don’t support Putin’s invasions. Does Georgia come to mind (2008, 6 years before you stop polishing Putin’s D)? That would be you.
And you were having beers (explains a lot) while responding to me. Who’s the fluffer?
I will disagree when there is something to disagree about.
Nice to see you back, I missed you.
Me too.
They are evil incarnate …..
Again, Ukraine didn’t invade anyone.
You defending your boy Putin with kremlin lines is a different story.
And take you BS Neo Nazi argument elsewhere. Not even Prigozhin bought that crap.
Ukraine invaded the Donbas in 2015.
Answer this, Did Russia invade Chechnya in 1999?
Chechnya had two factions. One was pro Russian. That faction understood that the autonomy offered by the Russian Federation was better than being raped by Western corporations. Deal with it. Putin offered a better alternative.
Lol. Wow, i dont want to see the worse alternative.
Oh i know. Invasion and annexation.
i think Ukrainians would rather fight.
But continue your support for your failed empire.
You have a big mouth because your life is not at stake. Ukrainians voted for peace, the end of the civil war when they signed the Minsk agreements. They know better than you what they wanted.
The same was true for Ukraine before the regime change. The RF offered better conditions than the EU.
What about Georgia in 2008? You used to bitch about that too until I quoted you as being a Putin fanboy until 2014.
1999 was before 2014. Or before you weren’t a Putin fanboy.
2014, but yes.
True, the Ukraine did not invade, the USA is using Ukrainians to sacrifice their lives and country for the US monster hegemon’s interests. The hegemon wants regime change in Russia and control over the nations minerals. Americans are averse to die for that so they use proxies claiming they are dying for their freedom and democracy.
Don’t take my word for it, Graham, Romney and some other shyster did say, to fund the war in Ukraine is the best investment the USA ever made, the cheapest way to fight a war when others are killing each other. They have no shame, no conscience at all, evil people, what else is there to say?
Every American should be ashamed for these evil people. They are not human, animals don’t do what they do.
Don, if you could present a coherent, well reasoned case you would not have to resort to ad hominem attacks on people who don’t agree with you. You have a big problem.
I posted this under the cold blooded article on sociopaths Blumenthal and Romney who think it’s just business:
I bet the Ukrainian people, not the fat-cat bribed leaders, do hate the US government or are beginning to, as the real picture becomes clearer.
Biden and Romney remind me that the strongest advocates of war are almost always people who have never served.
Vultures who use other people’s money too.
“How do Ukrainians not absolutely detest the US government for making their deaths a “good investment”
There is a name Russians have for them, essential referring them as mongos.
They have a name for you too.
Putin fluffer.
Much of the world outside of the U.S. puppets in Europe and a couple of Asian nations are waking up to the evil that has become the U.S. Brics isn’t an accident and you will see more countries joining to get from underneath the yoke of the U.S. A side benefit to come from this war is that many countries in Europe will also pull away from the U.S. Empire of Death.
Did you join the BRICS already?
No, I haven’t joined BRICS, but we know that you are a member in good standing of ‘PRICKS’.
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20230901-%F0%9F%94%B4-live-russian-missile-hits-central-ukraine-as-moscow-reports-drone-attacks
Live: Russia says it shot down 281 Ukrainian drones over the past week
This means that 300+ drones are being launched weekly.
Two bad developments:
Cluster bombs have turned out to be effective.
Drones have turned out to be VERY effective.
Cluster bombs have changed from war crime weapon to effective acceptable resource.
Drones can be used cheaply to destroy just about anything. They WILL proliferate on a world wide basis.
https://youtube.com/shorts/0Rvyx-xFkF0?si=uEmFCpQ_LD7aVJMq
It’s not something to be proud of. But the spin masters for Ukraine have mastered the art of psychological manipulation. Although Ukraine regularly intentionally squanders the lives of thousands of its own as cannon fodder, we are told that it is spitting in the face of the next Ukrainian soldier who will be asked to do the same. If you buy that, it is not they, but we who should be ashamed. I call that criminal B.S.
Let Ukraine be a lesson to the people of all countries and provinces that are being groomed for regime change. That way leads to death, destruction, and decades of horrific suffering.
Squandering the lives of thousands of their young men is genocide and a war crime. The Biden and neo-Nazi Ukrainian war criminals should have to face a war crimes tribunal like the German Nazis had to face.
The world had enough of American war crimes for which they are never held accountable. They have left millions of people dead and injured, military and civilians including millions of children who were left to starve to death because of illegal sanctions, and failed states. War crimes it is called.
And all for what?
More power, control over natural minerals, and profits and to hell with the victims, Ukrainian victims come cheap, the best ever return on the money the USA invested for war by Americans according to Graham, Romney and other so-called honorable senators.
They haven’t mastered anything, unless you’re thinking about the fact that a vast number of modern day westerners are gullible, uninformed, not to mention dense as lead.
The Stupid … you can’t fix it.
That’s because: Stupid is as Stupid does?…
Life is just a box of cluster bombs.
Another way of putting it OG:
A “Cluster -uck”…
LOL
Hey, im still waiting for the day you criticize Russia as the “antiwar” person you claim to be.
You know, Russia invaded Ukraine.
So i suppose you’d have a problem with it. ( Russia invading Ukraine).
But… you dont. I wonder why because you are “antiwar”
Seriously, you are not antiwar. Stop lying to yourself.
But… you can always reach out to wars, he’ll give you an endless list of how to live in antiwar la la land.
I know truly antiwar people.
Compared to them, you are far from fitting that profile.
That said, you truly suck at the antiwar claim.
It was the US who invaded Ukraine in 2014 and got the ball rolling. The rest are just reactions. You love to start the movie at reaction gtime. Great propaganda!
Tell that to yourself 999 more times and it’ll become true within your failed brain.
Since you are anti-war, I am sure you condemn the illegal U.S. invasion into Syria. Right?
Im antiwar with caveats. I support wars when in self defense or when protecing the oppressed i.e. Ukraine.
And yes, i’m against US invasion of all previous wars.
“And yes, i’m against US invasion of all previous wars.”
Sounds anti-west to me. You did say ALL. Now, squeeze your way out of this one.
Yes, wars. Im ani West like you. You got me. 🤷🏽♂️. I guess im a tankie too.
There’s a difference between being against your country’s foreign policies and siding with your country’s adversaries and wishing they beat us.
You are the collaborator. Not me.
PS. Eat a bag, wars. You earned it, tankie.
There’s a difference between being against your country’s foreign policies and siding with your country’s adversaries and wishing they beat us.
Now how is it different Don? Just you making shit up about me wanting our adversaries to “beat us”? Or did you just stick your dick in your mouth again former Putin fanboy? Now, be careful with your comments henceforth because I got that quote stuck away.
And yes, i’m against US invasion of all previous wars.
Russia entered Ukraine eto protect the oppressed ethnic Russians there.
After cheerfully murdering them for eight years.
Russia was murdering the ethnic Russians in the Donbass?
Yes, Russia was a participant in eight years of murder of ethnic Russians (and others) in the Donbas. And then escalated to full-on war when their proxy war was sputtering out and the killing had nearly stopped.
Thomas, you wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped you in the face and kicked you in the arse.
“But… you can always reach out to wars, he’ll give you an endless list of how to live in antiwar la la land.”
Trying to insult me while replying to others. Coward.
Cause you suck. You are full of it.
Fuking phony.
A phony would be someone calling someone else a Putin Lover while that same someone ADMITTED that he was a Putin fanboy up until as recently as 2014. And that same someone who apparently thought Putin had done no wrong up until that point. You can call me a phony, but it’s based on nothing I said. Unlike you, I have proof. Now tell us Don, what did you think about Putin’s adventures before 2014?
Antiwar people do respect and understand what self-defense is about.
The Western Capitalists got ready for war against Russia after the war, that was the basic reason for NATO, and they needed Germany, that saved Germany, it was not altruism. In defense Russia formed the Warsaw pact. Now the Anglo-Saxons will destroy Germany and with it the EU again. That is why Biden blew up the LG pipelines.
I am convinced that the CIA meddled in the German elections big time, without that Scholz and the ample coalition would not be possible. Steve Bannon was hanging around in Germany, American ambassadors acted like viceroys and should have been made persona non grata. In short, something really smells. President Orban in Hungary is the only common sense European head of state.
The Biden people are too stupid to understand that they are destroying their allies in the EU and NATO.
BS
In the Zaporozhye direction, Kiev forces launched 44 attacks against Russian military positions after deploying one of last strategic reserve units, the 71st Jaeger Brigade. More than 960 Ukrainian troops, 24 armored fighting vehicles, 28 motor vehicles and 45 field artillery guns were neutralized in Zaporozhye over the past week.
Meanwhile in the South Donetsk direction, the ministry said that the most intensive battles took place south of Staromayorskoye. The Vostok Group of Forces managed to repel all Ukrainian attacks in this direction over the past week. Kiev forces lost 1,025 troops, 13 armored fighting vehicles, 26 motor vehicles and 26 field artillery guns.
In the Donetsk direction there were many attempts to break through Russian defenses near Klescheevka and Maloilyinovka. During the week, Russian Forces repelled 36 attacks in which the enemy lost up to 2,385 Ukrainian troops, 30 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 75 motor vehicles and 21 field artillery guns,
In the Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces seized AFU strongholds and key heights. Over the past week, the enemy has suffered losses of up to 470 Ukrainian troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 21 motor vehicles as well as 18 field artillery guns.
In the Krasny Liman direction, the Tsentr Group of Forces repelled 14 attacks. Ukrainian losses in this direction amounted to 540 troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 13 motor vehicles and 10 field artillery guns.
In the Zaporozhye direction, Kiev forces launched 44 attacks against Russian military positions after deploying one of last strategic reserve units, the 71st Jaeger Brigade. More than 960 Ukrainian troops, 24 armored fighting vehicles, 28 motor vehicles and 45 field artillery guns were neutralized in Zaporozhye over the past week.
Meanwhile in the South Donetsk direction, the ministry said that the most intensive battles took place south of Staromayorskoye. The Vostok Group of Forces managed to repel all Ukrainian attacks in this direction over the past week. Kiev forces lost 1,025 troops, 13 armored fighting vehicles, 26 motor vehicles and 26 field artillery guns.
In the Donetsk direction there were many attempts to break through Russian defenses near Klescheevka and Maloilyinovka. During the week, Russian Forces repelled 36 attacks in which the enemy lost up to 2,385 Ukrainian troops, 30 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 75 motor vehicles and 21 field artillery guns,
In the Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces seized AFU strongholds and key heights. Over the past week, the enemy has suffered losses of up to 470 Ukrainian troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 21 motor vehicles as well as 18 field artillery guns.
In the Krasny Liman direction, the Tsentr Group of Forces repelled 14 attacks. Ukrainian losses in this direction amounted to 540 troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 13 motor vehicles and 10 field artillery guns.
in Kherson direction Kiev forces lost up to 230 troops, 31 motor vehicles as well as 19 field artillery guns over the past week.
In the Zaporozhye direction, Kiev forces launched 44 attacks against Russian military positions after deploying one of last strategic reserve units, the 71st Jaeger Brigade. More than 960 Ukrainian troops, 24 armored fighting vehicles, 28 motor vehicles and 45 field artillery guns were neutralized in Zaporozhye over the past week.
Meanwhile in the South Donetsk direction, the ministry said that the most intensive battles took place south of Staromayorskoye. The Vostok Group of Forces managed to repel all Ukrainian attacks in this direction over the past week. Kiev forces lost 1,025 troops, 13 armored fighting vehicles, 26 motor vehicles and 26 field artillery guns.
In the Donetsk direction there were many attempts to break through Russian defenses near Klescheevka and Maloilyinovka. During the week, Russian Forces repelled 36 attacks in which the enemy lost up to 2,385 Ukrainian troops, 30 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 75 motor vehicles and 21 field artillery guns,
In the Kupyansk direction, the Zapad Group of Forces seized AFU strongholds and key heights. Over the past week, the enemy has suffered losses of up to 470 Ukrainian troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 21 motor vehicles as well as 18 field artillery guns.
In the Krasny Liman direction, the Tsentr Group of Forces repelled 14 attacks. Ukrainian losses in this direction amounted to 540 troops, 22 armored fighting vehicles, 13 motor vehicles and 10 field artillery guns.
In Kherson direction Kiev forces lost up to 230 troops, 31 motor vehicles as well as 19 field artillery guns over the past week.
Hotel Ukraina…..”You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
That the US/EU and NATO sponsored the 2014 EuroMaidan Coup d’état was an illegal and criminal act. What the ICC called the supreme international crime, the crime of aggression.
NATO’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg confirmed, in an interview with The Washington Post, May 9, 2023, (speaking on behalf of NATO) that the “war didn’t start in 2022”. “The war started in 2014”
The Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) continue suffering huge losses in the area of Rabotino in the Zaporozhie region. One of Ukrainian commanders who was killed in the battles had a combat order with him. The document was found by Russian servicemen and was widely shared online. It confirmed that the Ukrainian servicemen are ordered to commit war crimes. The document confirms violations of a number of international laws and conventions. It confirms that the orders require all surrendering Russian troops to be murdered.
The Zelenski Nazi regime imposed by US and NATO is a reflection of them, a monstrosity. War crimes tribunals will follow.
I had not read about this horrific document. Heavens ……
This is why in the West we have massive censorship, you wont hear about in our MSM. Our elites (predatory class) are monstrosities, unrestrained psychopaths.
Why the war against Russia needs to end!
Ah yes…the whole “casuality-adverse” thing.
Sort of goes against the narrative that the western media and Julio are espousing. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nato-trained-ukrainian-recruits-admit-they-re-being-overpowered-by-russia-s-battle-hardened-troops-in-the-northern-sector-kyiv-independent-reports/ar-AA1g90Kw?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=8f0b1d93531040759a0266c1e980b7b3&ei=8
Nah, we’ll take your “Russia is doing better than ever” narrative. 🤣
Who says this? I think what people say is that Russia has the upper hand in any attritional warfare scenario where Ukraine is on the offense.
American commanders are adverse to have US casualties, they expect Ukrainians to do the dying for them, Sen. Romney and Grahams said it is a good investment to pay Ukrainians to fight their war.
Zelensky…..send more weapons! Russia……ok. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/haunting-threat-russia-s-doomsday-nuke-capable-of-obliterating-the-uk-in-just-6-minutes-enters-combat-duty/ar-AA1g8ejE?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=41c7ba175d7a4c22bf68b035ce3ec06b&ei=12
LOL
Yes, Russia says ok Putin now turning Russia into another North Korea.
Lol. Keep up your support, Bill.
The SMO is going according to plans. 🤣
Ukraine has lost at least 50,000 troops since the “counter offensive” began.
How would Kuleba define success?
Cost of doing business….. if you’re a psychopath.
On September 1, a Polish Mi-24 military helicopter violated the Belarusian border in the Berestovitsky district of the Grodno region, the Border committee of Belarus reported.
NATO is spoiling for war. Our elites (predatory class) are monstrosities, unrestrained psychopaths.
Talking about bad decisions, Biden had the choice to avoid the war, he chose war over peace and prosperity. It is Biden’s war, his catastrophe worse than Bush’s Iraq and no end in sight yet. Biden deliberately prevents any end of the slaughter.
Biden is a very slow learner, the same as his neocon monsters he picked for his cabinet.
Putin big mistake was his overestimation of the common sense of the neocons.
“Talking about bad decisions, Biden and Putin had the choice to avoid the war, they chose war over peace and prosperity.”
Fixed, no charge.
You forgot, Putin reached out and Biden said no way. Who is willing and has the courage to say negotiate, remember what happened when some congress people touched the subject, they recalled what they said, to even dare mention diplomacy and negotiate was a crime, it was dangerous and within hours they were silenced. Money talks. Remember that???? Biden said ‘NO’ loud and clear, no regrets, no learning by the senile old man.
Why has the word “Kagarlitsky” not appeared on a website called “antiwar”?
Is he antiwar? I mean he works for a CIA cutout so I am sure he is anti any war Russia would prosecute. Either way I think we can all agree that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is bad and needs to come to a negotiated settlement.
I’m not really that shocked that a fascist government like Russia is arresting dissidents. Much like what is perpetrated by the fascist regimes in the USA and China.
What’s your proof he works for a CIA cutout?
Crickets. As I expected. You’ve got nothing.
I’m not an editorial decision-maker at Antiwar.com, and the editorial decision-makers don’t hang out in comments (I was brought on as moderator because it was “we were thinking about just getting rid of commenting, but if we can find someone who’s willing to be a moderator, we’ll keep them”).
So, keeping that in mind, the best I can do “speaking on behalf of Antiwar.com” is say “I have no idea why Kagarlitsky is not mentioned on Antiwar.com, if he isn’t.”
Tom I saw your last post to this issue and don’t at all hold you responsible for antiwar’s editorial decisions. I’d be happy and drop it if they’d run just one or two pieces on it. Just factual pieces. If not it would be clear that antiwar is keeping several different sets of ideological books. One related question: how is a peace settlement to be arrived at if there is no antiwar sentiment in Russia, as well as Ukraine, as well as here?
Well, one thing I do do a little of lately is suggest links (mostly on Fridays and Saturdays as an obligation, but also whenever I happen to see something), and I’ll try to keep an eye out for some of the Russian political prisoners/dissidents/anti-war activists and what’s going on with them.
There’s also a form for readers like you to suggest links here.
It is my opinion (and I have expressed that opinion) that Antiwar.com is just a little too anchored in a very particular model of foreign policy analysis (Rothbardianism, which had a heavy anti-everything-US-but-maybe-make-excuses-for others tendency), and most of what it goes with outside that is either a right-wing “realist” take or a left-wing “peacenik” take. It’s not a lack of being anti-war. It’s a blind spot that we should attend to more.
Yes I think that’s right. For what it’s worth here’s a couple of links:
https://www.change.org/p/free-boris-kagarlitsky-2240af7d-8e18-48ba-8b81-ab7bdd740c4a
https://scheerpost.com/2023/08/10/free-boris-kagarlitsky-katrina-vanden-heuvel/
And for good measure, a link on state repression of peace activists in Ukraine.
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/8/7/headlines/ukrainian_authorities_charge_peace_activist_yurii_sheliazhenko_raid_his_home
Ukraine doesn’t seem to understand the rules of the game, which go like this: Ukraine takes billions of money and weapons from the West, and the West then owns Ukraine. Where did Kuleba get the idea that the West offers free lunches?
The West is not predatory like Russia and China.
They understand the situation.
They’ll work out a plan.
Plus, if Ukraine is able to export its own natural gas, they’ll return the favor big time.
That’s right, expect the EU natural gas market to be overtaken by Ukraine. Oops.
“The West is not predatory like Russia and China.”
You can’t be serious. All nuclear armed states are predatory you ignorant twit.
That is absolutely false. The US is by far the best when it comes to minimizing the economic conditions of people working (for US companies) in 3rd world nations.
We call them shithole countries, and we call their citizens savages that deserve their fate. We get cheap fruits, vegetables, and raw materials from them.
They do the work. We get the profits.
Oops. US companies will sell the Ukrainian natural gas to Europe. High profits for US companies, poverty wages for the Ukrainians doing the work. Same deal on Ukrainian wheat.
Britain’s Prince Andrew is once again facing serious allegations of child abuse. The fresh allegations against the Prince were made during his visit to Ukraine amid the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war. He visited Ukraine in June.
Our elites (predatory class) are monstrosities, unrestrained psychopaths.
Quote from John Mearsheimer
On Saturday, he published a new post about the war on his Substack (Bound To Loose: Ukraine’s 2023 Counteroffensive):
“It is now clear that Ukraine’s eagerly anticipated counteroffensive has been a colossal failure.[1] After three months, the Ukrainian army has made little progress pushing back the Russians. Indeed, it has yet to get beyond the so-called “grey zone,” the heavily contested strip of land that lies in front of the first main line of Russian defenses. The New York Times reports that “In the first two weeks of the counteroffensive, as much as 20 percent of the weaponry Ukraine sent to the battlefield was damaged or destroyed, according to U.S. and European officials. The toll included some of the formidable Western fighting machines — tanks and armored personnel carriers — that the Ukrainians were counting on to beat back the Russians.”[2] According to virtually all accounts of the fighting, Ukrainian troops have suffered enormous casualties.[3] All nine of the vaunted brigades that NATO armed and trained for the counteroffensive have been badly chewed up on the battlefield.
The Ukrainian counteroffensive was doomed to fail from the start. A look at the lineup of forces on both sides and what the Ukrainian army was trying to do, coupled with an understanding of the history of conventional land war, make it clear that there was virtually no chance the attacking Ukrainian forces could defeat Russia’s defending forces and achieve their political goals”.
Professor Mearsheimer goes on to discuss the history of blitzkrieg warfare, and why the Ukrainians were never likely to make it work against Russia–and even if they did make it work at a local level, Russia would have still beat them in the end because they have the advantages in artillery, air support, and population.
Everyone interested in an analysis of the “counteroffensive” should consider reading Mearsheimer’s full post. It’s a rather elegant reminder that, before immersing himself in international relations, Mearsheimer was an army grunt, a West Pointer, and a USAF officer.
The neo-Nazis in Kiev put their money on the wrong horse. Putin offered them the better deal, neutrality and peace and prosperity. First bet was the regime change and all the USA/NATO membership which included funding training and wonderful new toys, a dream come true and de facto NATO membership. They could not have asked for more.
Only the corrupt war profiteers won, all others lost.