Ukraine’s parliament on Thursday voted to extend martial law and general mobilization, a move that pushes back parliamentary elections that were scheduled for October.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has previously said elections can’t happen under martial law because it’s prohibited under Ukraine’s constitution.
“If we have martial law, we cannot have elections. The constitution prohibits any elections during martial law. If there is no martial law, then there will be,” Zelensky told The Washington Post in May.
Martial law has been extended several times since it was declared by Zelensky on February 24, 2022, when Russia first invaded. It’s expected to be extended as long as the war continues.
Ukraine’s next presidential election is scheduled for March 2024, which will also be pushed back if the war is still raging. The vote on Thursday extended martial law and general mobilization for another 90 days, from when it was set to expire on August 18 to November 15.
Ukraine’s martial law bans men ages 18-60 from leaving the country. In March 2022, Zelensky used his martial law powers to ban 11 opposition parties and nationalize TV media. The Ukrainian government has also seized control of several companies using wartime authorities.
It would be nice if Ukraine could hold elections. But with most of the country either occupied or under attack or threat of attact, it would be difficult to hold secure elections.
Meanwhile, where is General Surovikin?
Plus the fact that so many have fled some to the west and some to Russia, so what would be the validity given that far from all having fled would be likely to be able to vote – missing paperwork or not being granted the rights to vote freely by the host country.
Add to this that given that there are so many who are in the military serving time their right to stand for election and campaign for office would be severely limited the legitimacy of such an election would at best be dubious.
I would think it would be the opposite. Making a statement that nothing stops democracy.
Ukraine will have elections after the completion of de-Nazification.
The de-nazification needs to start in Russia once they figure out what the f that even means. Lot’s of Neo Nazis in Russia but to you, those must be the good ones.
We don’t back those Nazis.
If it isn’t the spokesperson of the pro Kremlin movement here.
You don’t back them. Yes, I notice that. You are very outspoken about it.
You can’t find a comment I’ve made that is pro Kremlin. Need I remind you who was a Putin fanboy as recent as 2014? And I wasn’t even disagreeing with you about Nazi’s in Russia you fool. If we’d had given those Nazis $112 billion in aid, I’d be bitching about that too.
Even if you did, so what? The stool pigeon is pro-Ukraine, a foreign nation with a government (regime) that was installed after we (the US) helped overthrow the democracy. The stool pigeon acts like his so-called democracy is better than the Russian democracy.
Principle. I don’t like any country so I’m pro nobody. But I do stick for US sports teams. Especially when they piss people off for not doing a sing along to our war anthem.
Yes, that’s your dirt on me. I was a fanboy, defended him, had discussions about trying to embrace Russia instead of antagonize them and gave him the benefit of the doubt until he completely proved me wrong multiple times. I then realized he was full of it. He calls out US for invading Irak and Syria then turns around and invades and annexes Ukraine. Yeah, great f ing leader.
If I had the time to go search on past 17 month articles, I’m sure I will find numerous statements in favor of the Kremlin and I will also find all those times you have given Likes to all those pro kremlin folks here.
And don’t give me the “oh, I can give a like for just some portions of the comments”
You either support a post or you don’t.
Look at you. You only come after the small group here that supports Ukraine and criticize the Kremlin. What does that say about you?
You keep forgetting that you were a fanboy when Putin did Georgia and Chechnya. Why didn’t you realize that he was “full of it” back then?
Never favored the Kremlin. Or Putin. And I’ve even upvoted your sorry ass. And besides, I don’t have to follow your criteria on why I choose to upvote a comment. You have nothing.
I go after people who want Ukrainians to continue to die for the US/NATO goal of weakening Russia. That would be team Ukraine.
I was too busy in college and NCAA to even care about world events let alone, Chechnya.
Ukrainians are fighting for their land and families. If they don’t want to fight, they wont. No one is behind them to shoot them if they retreat nor are they surrendering in masses nor are they deserting.
I support their cause for as long as they want to fight.
Do you also go after people who want Russians to continue dying for Putin?
I don’t see you going after those.
In either case, should be none of our business.
These millennial rejects get a degree in sociology and they think, they have the world figured out.
Says the guy injecting himself in a A-B discussion.
What a turd.
Georgia was 2008 and didn’t Putin use the same type of excuses?
And once again with the noble patriotic Ukrainian just fighting for his land and family. It’s sad if the typical Ukrainian thinks like you and is driven by blind jingoism. They must be as oblivious as you are.
“Do you also go after people who want Russians to continue dying for Putin?
I don’t see you going after those.”
And I’ll answer this the same way I have every other time you ask. The war is taking place in Ukraine. If the roles were reversed, I’d be saying the same thing about Russians. That I didn’t want Russians dying and their land being destroyed to help the West bleed Ukraine.
Georgia instituted events. Russia responded.
I didn’t say the excuses weren’t legit.
“Georgia was 2008 and didn’t Putin use the same type of excuses?” – 5 days war in Georgia started after Georgian army attacked Russian UN peacekeepers. By the way, it was Georgia who initiated the presence of Russian UN peacekeepers between South Ossetia and Georgia. Several Russian peacekeepers were killed. Simultaneously, Georgian army attacked South Ossetian capital Tskhinval, killing a lot of civilians, many of whom were citizens of Russian Federation. The attack on Russian peacekeepers was timed to the first day of Olympic Games. Putin at the time was in Beijing.
Excuses/reasons. I was using his language.
You are so full of it.
I don’t believe any of that.
Of course, you don’t. Your feeble mind has everyone on one team or the other. Never mind I’ve been saying exactly the same thing since the beginning.
“Ukrainians are fighting for their land and families.” BULLSHIT..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ukraine is fighting to be GROUND ZERO in the NEOCON effort to get “Full Spectrum Dominance” over the entire world which requires both Russia and China to be defeated or cowed into silence. There is no way Russia and China will go down without a fight and if Ukraine is destroyed it will be a lesson to feckless NATO and all the helpless gnomes to steer clear of confronting them…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ok Medvedev. Whatever delusional stuff you want to say.
Some history for you tankies:
https://www.salon.com/2023/07/29/how-russian-colonialism-took-the-western-anti-imperialist-left-for-a-ride/
Russian neo-Nazis are marginalized groups. All of them are ferociously anti-Putin. From time to time some of them are arrested for their extremist activities and collaboration with Kiev neo-Nazi regime.
Wars, you surprise me. I think I had you (mostly) wrong. The problem with comments is they’re 2D and lack context. However, being antiwar — which you really seem to be — runs counter to geo-political ambitions.
It’s admirable to be “against all war” but that is unrealistic. Russia/Putin has ambitions and he’s exercising them in Ukraine (after Georgia, Chechnya, etc.) Now, I would love to have a world where this wouldn’t happen but it happens and a sovereign country is trying to protect itself. The US/West is helping. (They may have intent to weaken Russia but Russia has made its bed in that regard.)
My wish now is that the West use their combined military support to end this war ASAP. THEN we can talk about peace.
Well RT, (oh the irony) if you had read my comments, you’d had noticed a pattern. I don’t have a side. And judging by your comment here, I could say some more things that would be construed as pro-Russia by some folk here. How you ignore all those years of provocations starting almost immediately after the cold war ended and put the blame squarely on Russia for their actions. Or WW3 won’t happen if the West would just end this war ASAP.
Russia lost 26 million people fighting the Nazis in WWII. She has no plans to let Ukraine’s Nazis put any missiles on her border to kill another multi-million She is and will continue to fight any NATO attempt to have U.S. missiles on her border. even if it means turning Ukraine into rubble and scorched earth. Talking is over and now Russian military might will do the communicating…!!!!
“26 million people fighting the Nazis in WW II” – most of them didn’t fought anyone, they were civilian victims of the genocide.
In Soviet time before Gorbachev they counted the number of Soviet dead in WW II 20 millions.
However the population census in USSR a couple of years before WW II never was published before the war. Obviously, they made it secret because the population was reduced after the collectivization and the artificially created hunger. So, at the time, people suspected that the victims of the hunger were added to the victims of WW II for covering up the crimes of the communist regime. So, it looks, the real number of Soviet people killed in WW II was about 8 millions militaries and 10 millions civilians.
You really have no idea what you’re talking about, do you?
Democracy can’t take place in Ukraine until US ships the industrial printers with pre selected mail-in ballot for Z!
you are such a doochebag.
Did they teach you spelling while you were wasting your time in college?
It gets blocked if i spell it correctly, you moron.
Douchebag.
Where’s my bar of soap?
Apoligize and please stop acting like a child Donald.
Says the karen of the blog. Lol 😂
Donny…
I see you are contributing with even more insults today.
And you wonder why you garner the replies that come your way….lol
Just because a few around here want to pretend this is a debate society or others are here to entertain themselves by screwing with others (such as you;-) does not mean I must play.
I play with you because honestly you are not a bad guy, just not the greatest at humor no matter how hard you try…..
Opposition parties are illegal, so what is the point to schedule elections?
Elections are soooooo 2016. Such a bother these days.
They are in Kiev. Yes.
their parliament took a vote in order to determine that the regular people would be delayed in their taking of a vote
Z remains “president” until…………………………….
*I know it sounds farfetched but this could happen here if Trump and his minions get control. Just because you think you are being watched or followed or bugged does not mean it is not happening. Our security{sic } agencies have unlimited capacities for evil.
“Ukraine’s Parliament Votes to Extend Martial Law, Pushing Back Elections”
Ukraine is a bastion of democracy according to Joey Biden. It’s more like a clown gulag.
But … but …. Democracy! LOL
Ukraine is a mafia State used by the West to launder money and bribes.
They have the whole US government to do that.
The Obama/Biden regime change was the first step to take control of Ukraine and the de facto NATO membership and the civil war followed.
Yep. confirmed here: https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
It’s not that unusual to suspend elections during martial law.
However, it is rather unusual to make all democratic competition illegal, to take complete control of the news, and to take over national companies … these steps are not needed by legitimate authority.
Are you talking about Ukraine or the US?
Ukraine will have elections after the 🤡 Dictator Zelensky has collected his millions in skim and he flees the country like the Afghani president did with bags of U.S. dollars.
You guys have been saying Zelensky will flee since the war started. The guy stood his ground and you hate him for that.
He is a great leader defending his nation.
Trillionaire Putin has been sending his cannon fodders to die for his personal war.
Zelensky always did as told, he got paid for it. When he not needed any more he can flee, maybe he can get away with his money and maybe not, he made lots of enemies selling Ukraine as if he owned it.
BTW, how do you know Putin is a trillionaire?
The person who may be the first trillionaire is Bezos.
i’m sure that the Saudi royal family are already trillionaires
Julio gets a message in his box of Wheaties every Monday with this week’s secrets. Julio was a runner-up on the game show Jeopardy – his winning category was “things that only i know, Alex, for $400”
and I thought he has Pablum for breakfast.
How do you know Zelensky always did as told and got paid for it?
Reading the news, even MSM can’t hide it. He may open his mouth sometimes, but after that he does as told. Appearance is of value.
How can you not know?
Another comment better read on the comics or funny papers.
The guy can only flee if Washington gives permission, he is Biden’s hand puppet. As long as he does as told he goes nowhere.
He can enjoy the fruits of his adventure in Florida, at his mansion there, or, at his villa in Italy. Now, where was his money stashed in South America?
https://korybko.substack.com/p/heres-how-poland-is-slyly-taking
Here’s How Poland Is Slyly Taking Control Of Western Ukraine
No sign that Warsaw will leave NATO.
By March 2024 the Ukrainian people will revolt and demand a change to end the war….!
By March 2024 the Russian people will revolt and demand a change to end the war.
I fixed your typo.
You would lose if we bet on it…!
No I won’t because I’m realistic and you are delusional making sh!t up.
Hey Don: Did you read that article I posted? What do you think? I would like responses from both sides.
Here’s a good timeline of the war and an urgent call for diplomacy now. If you do read it, you will see it’s more complicated than black and white. Too bad Wash. and NATO are also part of the black, since Americans are forced to support them in their military adventures abroad for the sake of corp. profits and campaign funds. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Hardly the people can revolt. The army can but US specialists are taking care that it wouldn’t happen. There are a lot of foreign advisers, mercenaries and local ideological neo-Nazis who are supervising the situation.
If there are enough Ukrainians left to revolt, but it may be they get support from revolting Europeans.
FJB
Here’s a timeline of the war and fills in some knowledge you must have missed as displayed in your posts. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
This is Dave DeCamp throwing his main audience a bone with a click bait article headline.
There’s nothing controversial here. The country is under attack by the Kremlin terrorists. How in hell can they hold an election? Their number one job now is to defend their land from the Nazis wannabe.
The same people who criticize Ukraine’s election situation are the same one that are very comfortable with Putin staying in power in perpetuity.
“The same people who criticize Ukraine’s election situation are the same one that are very comfortable with Putin staying in power in perpetuity.”
No proof of this but what the hell hey Don.
There is proof, just not to you.
Then instead of just talking out of your ass, do some research and come back with some names.
Just because you can’t see that does not mean others can’t see it.
So far, the Russian people support their popular President Putin and keep reelecting him. Opposition parties are legal in Russia, so far there has been no Jan, 06 in Moscow and his approval ratings are in an enviable 80% range. Add to that that Putin is well liked and respected by more than half the globes population while demented Biden is seen as a ruthless bully by most.
But Don does not know that.
You forgot to tell us that he cures cancer with a touch, brings toys down chimneys for children on Christmas, wrote “Stairway to Heaven,” and urinates a marvelous burgundy.
No – that would be Netanyahu.
Good for you to believe and say it. Why don’t you debate me, prove me wrong? Can’t you do that? Your BS is to stupid it is not even funny, and really beneath you and you know it.
Stupid enough even Don Julio upvoted you. Julio only upvotes stupidity, to be frank.
Read this: https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
I think Prof. Sachs deserves the PEACE Nobel prize. He has been consistent and honest.
There are more like him but MSM does all it can to silence them and hide them. That goes for RFK Jr. also. The current power elite will denigrate and demonize him and he knows it all too well.
“That goes for RFK Jr. also. The current power elite will denigrate and demonize him and he knows it all too well.” Or they’ll bump him off if he gets too popular and blame it on Russia/Iran/China/Syria/Libya, etc. Pick one, or all.
This BS is beneath you, you can do better.
My comment wasn’t in support of Putin.
I did not say it was.
I did not say it was.
I don’t think and did not say it is, my comment only repeated publicly known facts.
Russia isn’t portrayed as being a “sacred democracy” in our warmongering media like Ukraine is. In addition, we have no control over Russia, but our weapons shipments to Ukraine should allow US citizens to be critical of that dictatorship.
Our, our, our.
Standard pro kremlin blogger line here.
“Oh, we don’t care about Russia, we care about our tax payer’s money. ”
Most of you guys aren’t even Americans. Just a bunch of phonies if you ask me.
This site is international with bloggers from various places around the globe. It’s called Anti War for a reason. Not anti US thus all belligerents should be called out. That said, I wonder how many times you have truly criticized Russia.
So, now you’re to the point of even questioning people’s nationality? People just come here pretending to be American’s so they can use the taxpayer’s money excuse? Damn man, seek help.
I’m sure you understand what I wrote.
You are the one who needs help. I don’t hate my own country. You do and that makes you side with our adversaries.
Seek help.
No, I didn’t. You give no inclination of being above such stupidity. And I’ve heard you bitch about some of our wars so tell me how me bitching about this proxy war is different? Did you side with our adversaries in those wars you bitched about?
And get Dershowitz as your lawyer.
I wonder, how many times have you truly criticized US policies regardless of party?
As Johny Mathis sang long ago,the 12th of never.
Read this timeline and post it when the whoppers appear here: https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Your your your and your warmongering ego.
Read this: timeline of the war. Better to post this for your adversaries than get nasty. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Better Putin then Biden,Trump or DeSantis.
This test was censored in a different post;
The US is running out of ammo and Russia is just gearing up. Add in Iran, Syria and the Republic of Korea to spice things up. Add in a nebulous US war resistors league for a full picture of an aware one percenter’s guillotine nightmare.
Everybody knows China has to be nice or the US will repudiate its debt and seize its assets before it can pump up the BRICS New Development Bank bank even faster than Russia. That’s why smart money set up Korea be the second bad cop on the Pacific.
Russia had quite wisely moved most of its assets to safety before the shit hit the fan; That’s one reason it has the cash for investing in a railroad to Iran’s main Persian Gulf port. Iran now has rights to the Volga. and the canal to the Mediterranean via Black Sea and the Rostov-on-Don river canal from the Volga. Iran will be quite unhappy if the US and Ukraine mess with its Mediterranean opportunity.
Iran can now ship up the Volga to the railroad that goes between Beijing and London through Moscow. Iran is probably the most advanced drone maker on Earth, plus it has the world’d strongest coastal defenses. Citizens of Nato should figure out how to help avoid all out war with a much stronger Eurasian foe than TV depicts. That’s the US war resistors source of strength.
Most ironic in the obvious ploy to distract US citizens from the larger pressing reality; curing rapid climate change is easy— BDS corporatism. Raise as much food as you can and learn to live well in balance with Earth. Join a new government party and develop modern socialist nations with American characteristics.
“This test was censored in a different post”
No, it wasn’t, and not only because Antiwar.com, not being a government, has no power to “censor” anything.
Both posts were held for moderation because someone (not me), in their wisdom, put a particular word in our “have a moderator look at this before it posts” filters.
The next time you are censored at Antiwar.com will be the first time, and unless there’s a revolution which results in the site’s principals running the US government, there won’t be a first time.
I’m also pretty sure you’ve never had a comment deleted for violating the site’s guidelines. You occasionally have one held for moderation. Nothing worth whining about.
Thank you again. I like being reassured, occasionally. This website and the libertarian site are almost the only US sites I spend much time with (also common dreams when there isn’t too much la la land content).
I dearly miss the comments section of Common Dreams
Common Dreams comments are back. I also enjoy the comments section of RT.
So your comment in a different article about theatening to ban someone for using the letter “J” was incorrect?
No. A web site deciding how its resources may or may not be used is not “censorship” any more than you deciding how your front porch may be used is.
It’s not the web site, it’s you.
It isn’t moderation, it’s censorship.
It’s me, working for the web site.
And I’m not a government employee.
So no, it’s not censorship. Which is why you’re free to piss and moan about it.
I’m free to piss and moan about you because you get off on it. You’re not working, you’re wankin’.
What isn’t up for debate is the legitimacy of Israel and it’s zionist origins. Whenever that comes up you scream HATE SPEECH and bring down the curtain.
You’re not a libertarian. You’re a liberal.
The next person banned here for arguing one way or another about the legitimacy of Israel and its Zionist origins will be the first. As you well know. You just get your jollies from pretending you’re somehow persecuted.
I’m not surprised that you don’t know that “libertarian” and “liberal” are synonyms.
That hasn’t been my experiance, on either score
It’s been your experience HERE on both scores.
That’s a fact.
Lying about it to play the victim won’t change the fact that it’s a fact.
Go fact yourself. I think I ought to know if I was banned or not.
And libertarians and liberals tend to be very different from each other in the real world.
Well, you SHOULD know if you were banned or not, and presumably do.
But you claimed you were banned for discussing “the legitimacy of Israel and it’s zionist origins.”
Neither you nor anyone else has ever been banned at Antiwar.com for that, because such discussion doesn’t violate our guidelines (and, when there’s not a war on in Ukraine, often constitutes the bulk of discussion here).
That’s a fact.
You can lie about it — to others, to yourself, whatever — so that you can feel like a righteous victim, but it will remain a fact.
Liberal now is so nebulous it has different meanings for different people. Same as conservative. The fact is there is a uni-party in Wash. on things that really matter, like war, life and death. Remember oil is the glue that holds both parties together on that issue and war is the way to get more oil, isn’t it?
Exactly. Joe Biden a liberal? Lindsey Graham a conservative?
That literally was the Nazi defense at Nuremberg, “I was just doing my job”. I dont think you understand what fascism is.
The Nazis were government employees, and they were being tried for murdering millions of people, not for protecting the property rights of a web site’s owners.
Non-government “employees” worked the media too.
“Work will set you free” I dont think you understand what fascism is. Mussolini was fascist not Hitler.
Hitler used the NSDAP for his own purposes. Ernst Roehm was the real National Socialist in the mix. The NSDAP was just as anti-capitalist as the International Socialists in USSR. They just wanted a German type of socialism and not be tied to Moscow like the German Communists were.
Its censorship. When you withhold commenters speech till it has met your publishing standards is the textbook definition of censorship. You have literally taken publishing rights over peoples 1st Amendment rights.
Not only is it censorship its antisemitic and racist of this site to immediately ban comments that refer to a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham.
The First Amendment says that Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech. The “incorporation doctrine” extends that prohibition to other government entities.
Antiwar.com is neither Congress nor another government entity. Nor is it making any laws. Nor does a web site’s owners deciding who gets to use their property and if so in what manner abridge your freedom of speech.
You’re entirely free to say anything you like. Whether you get to use Antiwar.com’s microphone to say it more loudly is up to Antiwar.com. You don’t have to like it. That’s how it is whether you like it or not.
That’s the rationale of how nation-states abridge freedom of speech. Yes I know. Anti-war is not state-affiliated media (I don’t think so anyway), but to curry favor and not face blow-back from the State, media will do as the State directs. That’s why you get Gen Keane and Gordon Chang on Fox News and similar mongers on the primary MSM.
Fascism by definition is when corporates and governments collude. Or what we would call institutionalised endemic corruption. This collusion to censor and hide the truth is occurring and necessary to cover the corruption. ie look at Hunter Bidens laptop scandal. Massive cover-up by government and media corporations.
Look at Ukraine, it is corporate/government censorship that has allowed the war to proceed. The corruption by the Biden’s in Ukraine has led to the war. And its ironic you defend the censorship on a site called Antiwar. Its ironic that you give corporations rights above people.
I dont think you understand what fascism is. This is what historically has led to the death of millions. You are what Stalin referred to as a “Useful Idiot” The suckers who allowed it all to happen.
“I dont think”
Yeah, I noticed.
Now when you respond with an insult we all know its because you have nothing else.
By all means disagree with my assessment and correct me. I think i have put together a strong case to show Antiwar is NOT Antiwar, is a fascist publication, is racist and antisemitic.
So that means its a typical corporation.
The only case you seem to even be trying to make is that you have a “right” to use other people’s stuff, in any way you like, whether they like it or not, and that if you don’t get to exercise that “right,” the people who aren’t handing their stuff over to you on demand are “fascists.”
You haven’t done a very good job of making that case. Which isn’t entirely your fault. Nobody else could make a very good case for those propositions either.
But it might help if you developed at least some grasp of what the terms “antiwar,” “fascist,” “racist,” and “antisemitic” mean instead of just throwing them out as the Currently Popular Insults and hoping nobody else knows what they mean either.
The US is full of useful idiots.
The USA is a ‘reverse fascist’ state. In real fascism, the state makes the corps. behave for the common good. Here, the state allows the corps. to do what they want for their own good and profit through legal bribery called lobbying.
If you counter all the police forces of just the major cities that are well armed with military hardware like Helicopters and Tanks you would have a pretty big well trained army keeping CAPITALISM profitable and the workers down..
The fasces is on the walls in Congress. Has more legitimacy today than when they were installed. https://www.anarchochristian.com/speaking-of-fascism-3-things-we-should-be-asking/
You ever heard of the Irvine Corp. in So. Ca? It can tell you how you can use your front porch and has rules that only white curtains can be used indoors. Why people live there, I can’t figure out. Plus you have to pay hundreds of dollars every month just for the privilege of living there and abiding by all the rules they impose. Can’t even park your car on your driveway, must be garaged.
Found this timeline of the war which is very good for both sides here to review; it calls for diplomacy now also. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
I admire the cut of your jib.But I would not bet on it happening.
He’s fighting for democracy….
Check this out. It’s a timeline of the war and you can use it to enlighten those who keep posting whoppers. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
https://korybko.substack.com/p/heres-how-poland-is-slyly-taking
Here’s How Poland Is Slyly Taking Control Of Western Ukraine
What’s not mentioned is that Washington/Blackrock is sponsoring this initiative.
No indication that Warsaw is threatening to leave NATO.
Lancet drones to level Ukrainian troops in eastern Ukraine. Hypersonic missiles to level critical infrastructure in western Ukraine.
Martial law wouldn’t be necessary in a country united.
Indeed. Ukrainians that oppose can’t leave and have no choice to elect him out.
No elections, forced gunpoint conscription, anti retreat troops, book burning, banning of free speech, looting of churches, arresting church leaders, government death hit lists, mass murder of civilians, ethnic cleansing campaigns, assassination of peace negotiators, bombing of Nuclear power stations, bio weapons labs, destruction of Europe’s energy infrastructure, terrorism, kidnapping, rape, torture, massive human rights abuses etc etc etc.
Yep this is a Western war for freedom and democracy right? Up is Down, Black is White its all just big lies after big lies. Hence the state sponsored censorship campaigns to hide the truth.
NATO has already lost; 457 Aircraft, 244 helicopters, 5291 UAV’s, 426 Anti Aircraft systems, 10966 tanks inc. APC’s, 1140 multiple rocket launchers, 5636 rocket launchers and 11920 military automotive equipment.
There is a strategic need for Russia to fight NATO in a war of attrition. Russia will grind down NATO nations until it becomes existential to them. And then sue for peace on Russia’s terms. War crimes tribunals will be a part of that surrender.
Actually I was thinking that some of that shit has happened here already with a good chance of more as tempers flare and the economy and Climate crash.
Out of one side of Biden’s mouth he says we have to save the climate/weather; the other side says start more wars, like wars aren’t part of the global warming. You could say he’s a fool, but the real fools are the people who are doing nothing about stopping the wars which may cause the temperature to go way down with a nuclear winter if WWIII breaks out, and now it’s only a matter of time unless things turn around quickly, but they aren’t are they?
Read this: https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Good link
Your comments are similar and perhaps more biting then mine if that were possible. I will continue to read your stuff.Well done over and over wendell out
Read and post this when the whoppers get posted. Can’t argue with history. Sad that Americans are still ignorant of how this war came about. It makes a good case for diplomacy, like right now. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Might as well give the folks a sampling:
March 16, 2022. Russia and Ukraine announce significant progress towards a peace agreement mediated by Turkey and Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett. As reported in the press, the basis of the agreement includes: “a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces.”
March 28, 2022. President Zelensky publicly declares that Ukraine is ready for neutrality combined with security guarantees as part of a peace agreement with Russia. “Security guarantees and neutrality, the non-nuclear status of our state — we’re ready to do that. That’s the most important point … they started the war because of it.”
April 7, 2022. Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov accuses the West of trying to derail the peace talks, claiming that Ukraine had gone back on previously agreed proposals. Prime Minister Naftali Bennett later states (on February 5, 2023) that the U.S. had blocked the pending Russia-Ukraine peace agreement. When asked if the Western powers blocked the agreement, Bennett answered: “Basically, yes. They blocked it, and I thought they were wrong.” At some point, says Bennett, the West decided “to crush Putin rather than to negotiate.”
Love the way they personify the entire Russian gov. as Putin, just more Hitlerizing of Wash.’s enemies that stand in the way of total world domination. How many Hitlers have there been since the end of WWII? count ’em.
If it can happen there,it is delusional to think it cannot happen here. After all our Military and police forces are better trained and equipped and serve the interests of the same people.
As at most sites, the best policy is to not read reader comments. Delete the comment section.
So don’t read them Einstein. Presto.
But, it’s a good way to understand where the people are on issues, and it’s really the people that matters, except in Wash., that is.
Good article here. It’s a timeline of the war, how it came about and the urgent need for diplomacy, like now. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Sachs is excellent on the history leading up to this mess. In the period during and following the collapse of the USSR, he was often on the scene and involved with the key players. And he’s a really smart and decent guy. Whenever anyone has the chance to read what he writes or, even better, to listen to him and watch him speak, grab the opportunity.
However:
“The only way to save Ukraine is a negotiated peace. In a negotiated settlement, the US would agree that NATO will not enlarge to Ukraine while Russia would agree to withdraw its troops.”
That is simply not going to happen.
Peace in Ukraine is not a US goal or objective. The US-NATO is fully committed to this war to weaken Russia. If the US wanted peace and was willing to agree to a neutral Ukraine outside of NATO, it could have agreed to that at any time between the Bucharest NATO summit in 2008 and February of last year. That’s not what it wanted and it repeatedly refused to let that happen, knowing full well, in the final months before the Russian invasion, that it was provoking a hot war. The US wanted this war and it got what it wanted.
The war isn’t going at all the way the US wanted it to go, but it is absolutely fully committed, no matter how much of Ukraine is wrecked or how many Ukrainians are killed, wounded, driven put of the country or whatever. Among other things, backing down or backing away from the (futile) commitment to a Ukrainian victory would look weak. It would undermine world confidence in the US as the most powerful nation on the planet.
Most importantly (for the most powerful American decision-makers), it would make Joe Biden and his administration, along with the gung ho Democrats in Congress, look like losers and make it pretty likely that they would be losers — in next year’s elections. They will do their very best to prevent that from happening.
As for Russia, its leaders tried, literally for decades, to both make it clear to the West what its security needs were and to find a peaceful way to get those needs met. The US and its vassals and minions simply refused, repeatedly, and continued to relentlessly attempt to push Russia into a corner with a hostile military force on its most vulnerable border.
Ultimately, last year, the Russian leaders decided that the invasion, what they called a “Special Military Operation,” was their best choice in the face of the refusal of the West to back off. It appears that they expected a shocked Ukrainian leadership to come quickly to the negotiating table and to reach a settlement Russia could live with. It also appears that exactly that did happen, very early in the course of the war, but that the US-NATO deliberately killed the chances for peace, openly telling Ukraine not to negotiate an end to the fighting. With negotiations ended, the US-led West proceeded to work tirelessly to continue the war, to further provoke Russia, and to relentlessly escalate the fighting.
Russia’s response has been to dig in, to bring hundreds of thousands of new troops onto the battlefield, and to organize for a long war of attrition.
Russia has annexed the two Donbas republics and the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson oblasts. Under Russian law, those areas are now parts of Russia. They are Russia, just as Crimea has been Russia since 2014. These annexations are deadly serious steps for Russia to have taken. Withdrawing from those areas is simply not something the Kremlin could agree to, unless it were willing to face serious rebellions by Russians everywhere. It’s not going to happen.
Further, Russia has openly declared that the US-NATO is not a trustworthy negotiating partner. It doesn’t trust the US (the only Western entity that really counts in these matters) to bargain honestly or to honor its agreements. It is right not to trust — the US has been a consistently dishonorable player since the fall of the USSR. No trust, no negotiated settlement.
There’s a short list of things that might realistically happen between now and, say, the 2024 US elections. A peace agreement is not on the list. A frozen conflict might be the best we can hope for. Most of the other likely possibilities are much worse than that.
Yeah, you’re right. It is unconditional surrender or the
H bombs? Real men and women in Wash. don’t do negotiations.
Neither party is willing to accept the conditions that the other insists upon. As long as that’s the case, a peaceful resolution isn’t possible. The neocons running the show in DC do sometimes negotiate, but pretty much never honestly.
Even the neocons don’t want nuclear war, but they do have a disturbing tendency to see how far they can get away with pushing adversaries. And they aren’t very bright, so we should definitely be worried.
Here, just posted a couple of hours ago:
Is there even a significant amount of people left in Ukraine who wouldn’t vote in favor of the current regime anyways?
There are 3 branches of government, Raytheon, Blackrock and Pfizer.
A very painful and true statement with a nod to Goldman Sachs
Not only this, but Mr. Z has changed Christmas from the Orthodox date to the Roman Catholic date to try and further dis the Russians living there. Now that’s included in all the other anti-democratic laws being forced on all the Ukrainian peoples. Orthodox Christmas is NOT just Russian, it’s the date for all Orthodox churches throughout the world. Banderites are of Catholic and Greek Catholic faiths and under the Pope in Rome. Also, Biden is a Catholic (but not in actions), so maybe that helped get the date changed. Most of the Nazi founding fathers were also Catholics, yet didn’t meet the criteria to be real Christians.
I would also like to point out these posts are getting really nasty, and like the line in ‘Dr. Strangelove,’ “NO FIGHTING IN THE WAR ROOM.” But, I guess males are somewhat preprogrammed to fight. Just glad you can’t punch each other in the nose in cyberspace yet, (maybe someday?).
Well said Lily, well said.
Read this, it crystalizes where the war is now and how it all began and how it can be stopped through diplomacy. https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine