President Biden said Thursday that he has no plans to contact Russian President Vladimir Putin but that he’d be willing to talk with the Russian leader if he was prepared to end the war in Ukraine.
“I have no immediate plans to contact Mr. Putin,” Biden said at a joint press conference with French President Emmanuel Macron, who is visiting the White House. “I’m prepared to speak with Mr. Putin if in fact there is an interest in him deciding he’s looking for a way to end the war. He hasn’t done that yet.”
Russia has maintained that it’s open to talks with the US and Ukraine about the war, but there’s little chance Putin and Biden would be anywhere close on what they think is an acceptable peace deal to end the fighting.
Biden has not held any talks with Putin since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, unlike Macron, who has maintained a dialogue with the Russian leader. Macron reaffirmed that he would continue speaking with Putin to “try to prevent escalation and to get some very concrete results.”
While there has been an increase in dialogue between the US and Russia in recent months, prospects for a diplomatic solution to end the war in Ukraine still appear to be slim. Russia pulled out of nuclear arms control talks this week, citing differences with the US over the New START treaty and tensions over Ukraine.
When asked on Thursday about a potential Biden-Putin meeting, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said that Moscow never “shuns dialogue,” pointing to talks with Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz. “Anyone who wishes to hold a telephone conversation has the opportunity to do so — our president communicates with everyone without any time constraints,” he said.
In Washington, Biden and Macron reaffirmed they will continue supporting Ukraine in its war with Russia. “We affirm that France and the United States, together with all our NATO allies and the European Union and G7, stand as strong as ever against Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine,” Biden said.
“President Biden said Thursday that he has no plans to contact Russian
President Vladimir Putin but that he’d be willing to talk with the
Russian leader if he was prepared to end the war in Ukraine.” Mr. President, Mr. Putin was prepared to end the war in Ukraine in April.
Biden is beholden to the same evil cabal that brought us both world wars, 9/11, and all the Middle East wars of this century, just like Trump was. That cabal has lured 50 million so-called Christian Zionists in the USA to hope for a catastrophic war with Russia and Iran that will be the end of the USA, Russia, and Iran. May Heaven preserve us all from the wrath of the chosenites.
The “Z” People need a come to Jesus moment….
Problem is, these are the rapture-me-outa-here folks who think Jesus will come riding in on an ICBM.
Aptly put. (I was being facetious.)
Absolutely! They need to quit wandering around in the Old Testament and start reading the New Testament, which they have never fully accepted.
These Christian Zionists think they know how to interpret the Bible and think that Russia is the “Queen of the North” and China is the “Queen of the South.” So they are anti-Russia and anti-China. What they fail to realize is that Russia is that Camp of the Saints that is surrounded by Gog and Magog (U.S./NATO?) spoken about in Revelation. Take a look at how the U.S./NATO has Russia surrounded with military bases.
These 50 million Christian Zionists are largely responsible for all these wars in the Middle East by how they vote. They do not follow the Prince of Peace.
Actually there is a small money elite who directs these Christian believers, the elite believes they are entitled to rule the world, they are the multi billionaires including the Ukrainian oligarchs who live in Monaco and have their million $$$ yachts angered on the French Mediterranean coast, that is where Zelensky will live paid for by the American and European taxpayers. The people in Monaco and the Davos people are the true war profiteers, they never lose.
The owner of the most expensive yacht in the world properly does live in Monaco and Davos, summer /winter domicile, can it get better?
The Camp of the Saints was the early Christian church.
Gog was Rome under Nero, and Magog was the Judean hierarchy.
All of the stuff in Revelation happened in the late 1st century AD.
You’ll have to provide some documentation to justify your interpretation.
Here’s how Encyclopedia Britannica defines Gog and Magog.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gog
I don’t “have to provide” anything, but if you’re interested just plug the term “Preterism” into any search engine.
You’re right. You don’t “have to provide” anything. The only thing you have to lose is credibility. But your reference to Preterism was useful.
Only the first 19 chapters of Revelation happened already. The Camp of the Saints is in Revelation 20:7-10 which also predicts the defeat of Satan. That hasn’t happened yet.
Actually Russians and the Europeans offered the Ukrainians protected neutrality in return for the guaranty to not become a NATO MEMBER and move nuclear weapons close to the Russian border, really a peace agreement. But the Ukrainians would rather be dead than have peace and prosperity. They had the chance, it was there several times for the taking, but each time UK/USA opposed it and Zelensky did as told. He is committing genocide on his nation, on the people who voted for him.
The only right Ukrainians have is to get killed for the benefit of the Americans, they are not sovereign enough to end the war if Biden says no. He is the true killer, he is in blood up to his neck.
Of course Putin was prepared talk. He even stated his conditions for talks.
EDIT (removed quotes):
Russia keeps the occupied land, Ukraine will demilitarize and de-nazify (perhaps even de-satanize), and no more joining EU nor NATO.
So yes, he was prepared to not end the war but to give themselves a needed regrouping break. Very smart to have Ukraine get rid of his Army so Putin can come back stronger and take the entire country.
Come on, you know better.
Could you give us a link to that quote from Putin? I assume it was in April and I’m curious as to why Zelensky was willing to agree before Boris said NO.
My bad. Misused the quote marks. I was paraphrasing Putin’s claims.
You do know, in fact, you must know that the conditions have changed because the US/UK and Ukraine will not compromise at all, they want UNCONDITIONAL surrender, that is how unreasonable and insane they really are. But they will commit genocide on the Ukrainian nation for a regime change and the destruction of Russia. The Ukraine is nothing but cannonfodder, a sovereign nation it is not. They are disposable proxies, as are the Europeans.
If Biden wanted to end his war he would be willing to talk and negotiate with the devil.
Biden is a senile bad old man, he is sure the American voters are on his side.
He walked away from Afghanistan and slammed the demolished nation with savage sanctions on the people after 20 years of a brutal war.
The Afghans never did anything to the Americans to justify that war of aggression.
https://cpmaine.org/2021/08/29/revelations-of-carters-former-advisor-yes-the-cia-entered-afghanistan-before-the-russians-1998/
So much like using Ukraine to provoke Russia and Taiwan to provoke China. The CIA is the best experienced outfit the MI6 must be close behind it, paid government criminals to be honest.
Biden, take the damn exit ramp. We have already been driving in the wrong direction on the Blood Highway for far too long. Swallow some stupid pride for Peace and start to end this war. (and for God’s sake don’t go provoke another war with Iran or China)
May be even Canada by mistake.
Biden, take the damn exit ramp. We have already been driving in the wrong direction on the Blood Highway for far too long. Swallow some stupid pride for Peace and start to end this war. (and for God’s sake don’t go provoke another war with Iran or China)
Biden only follows Obama, Clinton Schumer orders. His opinion matters not.
Oh man, not another one. Biden was a warmonger when Obama was still shitting yellow. He needs no orders.
Biden is no match for Putin.
Look at you. Racking up likes with love for Putin posts.
Keep it up.
He can, can you?…..
There is an excellent article on UnzReview, that is if you have the intelligence to understand it. Unzreview is censored but you can google it up. Its titled: “No, Putin did not start the wat”.
Unzreview carries a lot of very good articles. Strongly recommended.
Objectivity has nothing at all to with love, but a lot with common sense.
Objective observers can see that President Putin is a respectable and competent head of state, compare President Biden, he is an incompetent, untrustworthy, senile old man.
If you think that is wrong you are welcome to correct me.
“Biden Says He Has ‘No Immediate Plans’ to Contact Putin Biden made the comments with Macron, who has maintained a dialogue with Putin throughout the war”
A real leader and President would have used diplomacy for years prior to this fiasco.
Joey Biden was illegally installed by nefarious jerks and is hell bent on destroying Europe and Russia.
Joe Biden won fair and square. Stop this nonsense.
Sure he did, ha-ha! Between ballot harvesting and blanket mailing of ballots to every household no matter if people were citizens or not the election was a sham and mockery of the democratic process on a banana republic scale.
One person one vote has given way to social engineering, suspect bundles of ballots, and massive fraud.
The 2020 election was a turning point for the America we once knew and the shining light on a hill has become a dark mine shaft into which American has descended.
Your senile half wit Joey Biden and mental midget Harris are merely puppets controlled by nefarious power brokers.
Well, I certainly agree with your last paragraph, CT.
The rest is garbage. Plus, why does he think Trump backed out of taking the troops out of Syria or why he had his nose buried up Israel’s ass if he wasn’t controlled by the same power brokers?
Trump, ByeDone…didn’t really matter much, Wars. If these two were the “best” that Amerikkka could offer us, we were all f*cked anyways.
I don’t expect ‘24 will be any better 😐
“This nonsense” won’t be going away any time soon. Cultists gonna cult.
Yeah, I see it a lot lately – from both sides? Nope.
You’re talking about a “true believer”, Thomas. It’s an article of faith that Trump won the election in 2020. As the head of the New Mexican Republican Party, Steve Pearce, said in December of that year, “Trump is our president FOREVER and no one can take that away from us.”
Hey, I live in NM and those RPs need to find another planet to live on!
Not any sort of “cultist”—and I consider Trump a worthless loudmouth—, but anyone who honestly thinks there was nothing funny about the 2020 election, with its strange and unprecedented suspension of the vote count in multiple key states where the Orange One was ahead, followed by mysterious overnight dumps of enough Biden ballots to ensure a win (by THE MOST VOTES EVER, no less) for the repellent, dementia-addled old kid-sniffer (who didn’t even bother campaigning!), is a dolt. And it’s absolutely hilarious how some of the same people who will correctly point out that the United States government spies on and abuses its own people and routinely rampages about the globe, plundering, threatening, mass-murdering, and MANIPULATING ELECTIONS will also get angry with you and call you a “cultist” if you suggest U.S. elections aren’t free and fair! I mean, what is up with that? LOL!
A “worthless loudmouth” vs. “dementia addled old kid-sniffer” and yet you believe the election couldn’t have possibly been legit. Now if you were arguing that a third-party candidate should have been the obvious choice and either Biden or Trump winning should have been cause for thinking the election was rigged, I would agree. But to think that there was a rigging for one of those two morons makes little sense. It was the ultimate “lesser of two evils” election. Even greater than Clinton vs. Trump.
Trump is mostly bunkum and a big mouth—but he’s also a little unpredictable, a little prone to saying (if seldom actually doing) things off script. While highly unlikely, there was always a slim chance that Trump might seek rapprochement with Russia, or balk at further escalation in Ukraine. The Establishment (by which I mean the entire complex of ethnic-national lobbies, intelligence apparatuses, business interests, and western oligarchs who actually run the show) doesn’t want to take that chance—they want absolute predictability, absolute control. Nor do they want the peasants getting uppity, thinking they can shape the country or repel Globohomo through electoral populism; that sort of thing is highly offensive to these people.
No, the Establishment wants somebody predictable, completely controllable, like Joe (never mind that he has barely enough cognitive function left to read the teleprompter), and they also want the flyovers to know their place, to know that their fizzle of a little populist uprising in 2016 has been defeated forever and that, no matter what the ruling classes have to do, they will not allow average Americans a say in American governance, ever. I think the obvious fraud of 2020 was as much about demoralizing the peasantry as it was about getting a solid Establishment meat puppet in the White House. The folks in charge, the same ones who pushed the Russian Collusion/Orangeman Bad narrative for four tiresome years, were essentially saying, “Look, rubes! We can put Uncle Bad-Touch, the twaddling dementia patient, in the White House, and you can’t do @#$% about it! Never again!”
Never forget that the people who run the western world loathe us, and they want us to be miserable, defeated, poor and enslaved to the same extent that they themselves are arrogant, triumphant, rich, and in charge. Their real end game is to create a supine and gormless servile class to cater to their needs while the rest of us just give up and die out. Humiliation and demoralization are important tools toward that end.
“No, the Establishment wants somebody predictable, completely controllable, like Joe”
I think our only differences are that Trump wasn’t that man. His unpredictability was mostly about his personality than it was him not obeying the wishes of the Establishment. He increased military spending, added the space force, sanctioned anybody and everybody and continued our belligerence around the world pretty much unabated. He wasn’t allowed to leave Syria. He was allowed to leave Afghanistan otherwise Biden would have reversed Trump’s deal. He was allowed to kill the Iranian general but wasn’t allowed to go to war with them. He was, and possibly will be, a poodle.
The laptop story might have changed the lesser of 2 evil equation. Don’t misunderstand me. Both deserve to burn in hell. But maybe one more than the other? God knows how to set the temperature. Hope God and hell exist especially for such people.
I disagree. About the change. About a god. And about a hell.
This has been debunked long time ago many times over but Trumpists won’t let it go. The GOP never provided any credible piece of evidence.
And the mysterious overnight dump of votes were predicted as those were mail in ballots that were arrived/counted last and were expected to be mainly for democrats.
I never thought I would give you an up vote, but even an old blind sow finds an acorn every once in a while.
Well, you can relax now, folks! One of our resident Pentagon sock puppets has consulted its compendium of stock talking points and duly produced THE definitive answer that kills all “disinformation.” There’s nothing to see here; it’s all been “debunked”! The ballot dumps (all totally legit and Democratic, naturally) were “predicted”! (I’ll bet! Lol!)
So go back to sleep, be sure to take your calamari injections, and “slava ukraini!”
Douglas MacGregor (Retired Colonel – US Army) published a piece in The American Conservative today that takes a close look at Biden and his proxy war with Russia. It has direct relevance to this post, and also speaks to the folly and the hubris of the Biden administration’s handling of this mess.
Washington’s Carthaginian Peace Collides with Reality
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/washingtons-carthaginian-peace-collides-with-reality/?fbclid=IwAR1jun3Ed_wC6jZUWU5i_JE5Df-oNJfW5R7fnqX50a_pTwW–ST3XjfYSJs
Macron supposedly wants negotiations, and yet he repeatedly referred to Zelensky’s 10 point “peace plan” as if it were a real offer, rather than the complete nonstarter that it is.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/12/01/remarks-by-president-biden-and-president-macron-of-france-in-joint-press-conference/
Zelensky 10 point plan:
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/the-10-point-peace-plan-for-ukraine-proposed-by-zelensky
Not sure what’s the purpose of this Kabuki dance between Biden and Macron.
Macron is here for an economic fig leaf. France is looking out for her industrialists.
Like maybe some foreign aid to France to offset the lost nuclear submarine deal the U.S. killed that they had with Australia.?
“‘…against Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine,’ Biden said.” Let’s do the math. Anyone with any basic intellectual capabilities could only deduce that the result of not pursuing peace would make any war even more brutal. The fact that no MSM outlet argued this point indicates that the west’s stupidity has reached unprecedented levels.
I would add, it is Biden’s brutal war he keeps escalating a war which was avoidable if had had wanted to, that is why it is his war. It is not President Putin’s war, he is accountable to the Duma and the Russian people, they elected him and he serves them and not Biden/Zelensky they serve the corporate war machine the MIC and the financiers and all the other profiteers like the American giant oil corporations. They are making sky high profits for their big shareholders.
Funny, but Putin says the same thing to west lie talks…!
Sorry Mr. President, but the Russian president has no interpreters who translate babble.
There are a lot of discussions here about the US elections. Here is my take.
I think that Trump supporters may be half right about voter fraud, and democrats may be half right about voter suppression. But this is far and away overwhelmed by the corporate media determining the results of elections through the framing of issues.
There have been times in the past mid election when the democrats were expected to clean up in the upcoming election, and times when republicans were expected to clean up. The media then slants articles to make sure the trailing party evens things up.
This recent election absolutely should have been a republican blow out. What happened? The Supreme Court issued it’s abortion decision. Prominent republicans that framed the issue in the most radical way possible got a HUGE amount of nationwide press. The economic difficulties that we are in were framed with a things are not so bad perspective. And the result? Corporate America got their usual split decision. They are so good at this that, last election, democrats squeaked by to barely get control of the Senate, and in this election, republicans squeaked by to barely get control of the House.
Corporate America has worked tirelessly to make sure that the right and left fight each other rather than unite to make things better for working class and middle class Americans. Corporate America is lucratively taking advantage of this now, in a post-covid world, just as they did in the covid world and also in the pre-covid world.
If democrats succeed at voter fraud, Corporate America responds with more articles favoring republicans right before the election. If republicans succeed at voter suppression, then their articles will be skewed a little more favoring democrats. Recently, Corporate America has achieved their goals election after election. And the close elections become just one more reason for left and right to completely and totally hate each other.
So I guess they’re getting ready to negotiate.
What will Biden be prepared to negotiate away? Nothing, Can Ukraine at this pount realistically expect any gains at negotiating table.
Asking for a lot with the weakest posdible hand.
How is Ukraine the weakest hand when they are actually putting up a fight and re-gaining ground?
I expect the Kremlin to soon demand negotiations and start offering concessions as they begin to realize that they won’t be able to hold the Ukrainian’s easterly push and Ukraine realizes they can get more on the battlefield than with unrealistic demands from Putin.
“How is Ukraine the weakest hand when they are actually putting up a fight and re-gaining ground?”
Because nobody else has lost any ground, at all? Russia is also putting up a fight, and has gained ground, even though the Ukraine has taken some of it back. But the Ukraine has taken no Russian ground. Nobody else has lost any ground, not Russia, nor any of the NATO powers. Just the Ukraine. And nobody else’s capitol city is being deprived of electricity and water. Just the Ukraine’s. Not Moscow, nor Washington, London, Warsaw, etc. The lights are on just fine in those cities, and water is running from the taps. Sooooo, obviously, of all the “hands,” (Russia, the Ukraine, NATO), the Ukraine has the weakest one.
Seems pretty obvious, to me.
Biden is really nuts, he demands unconditional surrender first, before he would talk about what with President Putin? Biden is really more than just senile.
What he and Zelensky are doing to the Ukrainian people is genocide, fighting to the last Ukrainian standing is just that.
Biden has been involved in this crime since 2014 if not earlier. Our government officials are the real war criminals, no excuse for them.
Biden is just following America’s style of negotiations. Demand everything up front before you even start talking. He’s still a senile old fool, but in this case, he’s just doing what America always does when it comes to negotiating with other countries.
No difference than what Putin is doing. To have Ukraine surrender before any talks. Call Putin out too and show some objectivity.
BTW: Ukrainians will fight with or without EU/US/NATO. They are fighting for their land and children and you would too if you were Ukrainian.
Do you know that President Putin’s diplomates informed Biden why they object to Ukrainian NATO membership, and a guarantied Ukrainian neutrality and Ukraine should implement the MINSK agreements which the Ukrainian government had agreed to in 2015, ending the civil war and providing the Russian speaking Ukrainians autonomy to use their language among other things. The undiplomatic American diplomats showed not even diplomatic courtesy to answer diplomatically in a timely manner.
Biden wanted the war, that is why he met with Zelensky shortly after he was inaugurated, he was involved in the regime change in 2014 he knew all the details and did get Hunter a job on the board of the Ukrainian energy company, he got a fat salary for doing nothing, corruption, courtesy from a corrupt government to a corrupt VP. The US neocons worked on the regime change, Putin to be replaced with Navalny or someone like him, a corrupt politician will do, and to break up the RF to weaken Russia.
I would not fight for NATO membership, I would fight for peace and the future of my children not for some oligarchs oil revenues. Neutrality was the ticket for peace and prosperity for the Ukrainian people.
War is a ticket for Zelensky and the oligarchs to retire to the Cote D’Azure on the French Rivera. Open your eyes and ears and your mind, who are the winners in war? Who will live in ruins after the war, Zelensky and all the other oligarchs? Their yachts are waiting for them.
The Minsk Agreement? Is that the one Putin failed to honor after he broke the Budapest Memorandum (agreement). Do you care that Russia violated the latter signed in 1994?
The Minsk I & II were negotiated and signed by both parties after the Obama/Biden regime change in 2014. Zelensky was elected 2019 promising peace to the voters. But he tossed the agreements as soon as he was in office, the Ukrainians never intended to implement the agreement with the understanding of the US. That must be why the USA was not involved in the negotiations. The neocons wanted this war. The Europeans gave up on it when the USA did not support the signed agreements and put pressure on Zelensky to implement Minsk. The USA is known for not keeping agreements. They break any deal when and if it suits them. Americans are not capable to make agreements, they are unreliable. So say the diplomats.
HAHA! Biden wants Putin to surrender since of course Russia is losing so badly that he has to admit it soon, surrender and let Russia get taken over and be made a successful vassal.
Biden and his people are so competent, they proved it when they retreated from Afghanistan. Neocons do know how to start wars, just what comes later is another question. Normally they just walk away from the scorched earth mess they make, see the ME.
1984.
Biden fears he might get lost while on the telephone?
“against Russia’s brutal war against Ukraine,” Biden said.
Every time the word brutal is used to describe Russia’s war on Ukraine it should be noted that the US wars make this war seem tame. It’s sickening that Bush’s gaffe about the “brutal invasion of Iraq..er I mean Ukraine” is long forgotten. Fallujah.
I sn not sure that Putin is holding his breath,
Why should he while Putin is adding to his list of absurd conditions prior to any negotiations.
This war could have been avoided by implementing MINSK. The US decided to arm neo-Nazi genocidal terrorists instead. Russia offered to negotiate collective security prior to the war, the US refused. Russia was negotiating with Ukraine in March, the US undermined negotiations, insisting that Ukraine fight its proxy war on Russia “to the last man.”
Anyone who believes the US supports negotiations is a sap. The US wants war, its been in a constant state of war for decades, and US elites can only maintain their power if this state of affairs continues – and it will until the US people wake up and jail all their war criminals, war profiteers and anyone who has shaped policy supporting neo-Nazis.
But Brandon may have to talk to Putin if Brandon wants to satisfy his Number One foreign policy objective, getting Brittney Griner home by Christmas.
That’s probably Biden’s number one foreign policy objective over at Fox News.
A simple google search will actually tell you Biden’s foreign policy priorities.
Perhaps the reason the West doesn’t want to talk to Putin. I know I wouldn’t talk to him if he presents these type of conditions. He can go F himself along with his party of fluffers. Russia is a great country with lots of talented people. I truly Hope they wake up.
This eternal dictator is ready to fall off a balcony or have a heart attack. I heard he is planning a visit to Donbas, his own people might not let him back in Moscow.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-war-biden-prepared-meet-082353083.html