Russian President Vladimir Putin believes Kiev was unwilling to accept a peace deal in March because of pressure from Washington. Putin joins a growing list of sources who say the war nearly ended after a month, but Western influence prodded Ukrainian President Volodmyr Zelensky to keep fighting.
Kremlin Spokesperson Dimitry Peskov said, “[a]t the same time, [Putin] emphasized that, well, it is obvious that such a reluctance to negotiate and a rejection of already agreed understandings occurred clearly by decree. By decree of Washington, this is quite obvious.”
In March, Turkey hosted diplomats from Ukraine and Russia for talks. Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said the two sides almost reached an agreement that would lead to a ceasefire and a withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine. However, talks fell apart shortly after.
On April 5th, the Washington Post reported that some NATO members preferred a protracted war to weaken Russia. "That leads to an awkward reality: For some in NATO, it’s better for the Ukrainians to keep fighting, and dying, than to achieve a peace that comes too early or at too high a cost to Kyiv and the rest of Europe," the outlet reported. Later that month, while meeting with Zelensky in Kiev, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said one of Washington’s goals was "to see Russia weakened."
Commenting on the breakdown of talks, Cavusoglu blamed NATO members "who want this war to continue." "But, following the NATO foreign ministers’ meeting, it was the impression that… there are those within the NATO member states that want the war to continue, let the war continue and Russia gets weaker. They don’t care much about the situation in Ukraine," Turkey’s top diplomat added.
In May, Ukrayinska Pravda reported that then-UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson traveled to Kiev and pressured Zelensky not to accept the proposal that had been brokered by Turkey. "Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not," the outlet reported.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Kiev had made a proposal at the Istanbul talks that was acceptable to Moscow. "These negotiations at some point at the end of March … led to a result that gave hope to all of us, thanks to the fact that the Ukrainian side for the first time put on paper a position that suited us as a basis for work," Lavrov said.
Further confirmation that the March agreement negotiated in Istanbul nearly resulted in a Russian withdrawal comes courtesy of Washington. In Foreign Affairs, Fiona Hill wrote, "Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement. Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries."
Hill, the former Senior Director for Europe and Russia on the U.S. National Security Council, accused Russia of systematically attacking America’s democratic institutions in 2016. At Donald Trump’s first impeachment, she testified that it was Russia’s goal to weaken the US.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com, news editor of the Libertarian Institute, and co-host of Conflicts of Interest.
Of course. Reported all over the place. The plan of the West articulated beautifully by Lloyd Austin. Putin is being very slow to complain. It is a deadly farce with too-old and too-young Ukrainians being slaughtered. In a fair world it ought to have been over in March. Certainly.
Putin’s complain isn’t relevant. NATO baited Russian and they fell for it. MIC has to make billions more until it is not longer feasible. The best outcome would be either crippling Ukraine to the point of negotiation or US stops arming them. And neither options currently are on the table.
In a fair world the USA/ NATO would have followed the UN sponsored Minsk plan in 2015 and all of this would not have been needed.
This.
TRUE. But we do not live in a fair World.
Truely stink Verbal diarrhea perhaps.
Austin: “weaken Russia”
And put us all on the brink of h*ll.
Hell isn’t very nice this time of year…
It’s cold as . . . .
hahahaha….
Idea of weakening Russia and rob Russian natural resources is not new. American oligarchy is working more than 30 years to achieve this goal. The ultimate goal is the full spectrum dominance over the planet. Russia and China are standing in the way.
Agreed. And in the age of post-truth, the ‘noble lie’ is king.
We live in time when it became easier to cheat Europeans than Africans and Asians.
Perhaps, but Russia has been weakened very nicely by the oligarchs stealing everything, and now by an ill considered invasion that looks like it will wipe out a generation of marriage age males. The USA couldn’t have done better if it had tried.
Yes, the US is doing better at stealing from the country under the guise of protecting democracy in Ukraine.
There are not much left to steal in Ukraine. Without the financial help from US, Kiev regime would collapse within a month. American military corporations are stealing money mostly from American taxpayers. The main source of their income is US budget. Only in the last half year the situation improved. Because of economic war against Russia and decline of EU, European business started to move from EU to US. That is a real success story.
My point was the US is stealing from its citizens.
That is correct. American taxpayers are the main source of their fabulous wealth.
While the Russians individually can be wonderful people, as a nation they are detestable. As an American, I will gladly pay taxes to destroy this degenerate state.
That is what they say about Americans too, Americans individually can be wonderful people. As a Russian, Chinese or European I will gladly pay taxes to destroy this degenerate state.
This your thesis fits better to NATO countries than to Russia.
And somehow the state will be destroyed while those “wonderful people” go unscathed? But hey, it’s something you probably think is “worth it”.
Or collectively considering suicide if weaken Russia.
Give me one reason,why Putin won’t use nuclear weapons if Russia weaken?
You look old like a cognitive decline President,to you life is finished,you might as well end it with a bang ?
Putin obeys Russian rules which says only if Russia is existentially threatened. Now if the US plus friends pile on, it may very well get existential. The question is, how far will USA go? The signals so far are: USA wants war
If US rulers wanted the peace, they wouldn’t organize the far-right coup in Kiev in 2014. Minsk Agreement 2015 was signed for the purpose to gain the time and prepare Ukraine for the war against Donbass republics. Once Donbass republics are destroyed, they would attack Crimea. So, the military conflict with Russia was guaranteed anyway.
The idea of making of Ukraine a Russo-phobic state was developed a long time ago. First unconstitutional change of power in Kiev was organized in 2004. However, Yushchenko Russo-phobic regime had no force to terrorize the people into submission and soon lost the power. So, the next coup was prepared better. Many thousands of far-right militants were trained in NATO countries.
Ukraine is important part of American anti-Russian strategy. The ultimate goal is the full spectrum dominance over the planet. It is unachievable without destroying Russian state. Ukraine was supposed to be the main tool for uniting NATO countries for the crusade against Russia.
Putin in his address to US rulers in December 2021 demanded to respect NATO-Russia agreement 1997. This agreement was not about Ukraine. It was about the balance of the military forces in Europe. Actually, Putin demanded to abandon the idea of the full spectrum dominance.
The Czarist/Soviet/Russian state has been a scourge of humanity throughout their existence. Hitler had the right idea, he just was too stupid to make it happen, the the detriment of all of us
I know, US are continuing Nazi Germany’s job. The goal is the same and the methods are not much different. Probably, the outcome also would be the same.
what? we have known about this since it happened in Istanbul. The duran discussed it then, Boris J made it quite clear that Ze must NOT negotiate or the UK would not support him. Ever since, BFF Boris has continued this support, so did Liz!!!and of course Sunak even more. No chance of peace. Russia has to win. Putin seems confident and manged to speak for 5 hours at Valdai, unconcerned about the NATO aggression.
Yes and no. He’s neither dying nor afraid of losing; but, he did try mightily, already he took office 22 yrs ago, to avoid this – what he sees as an obscene waste – war that’s been forced upon him by a cabal of ideological fanatics centered in Washington.
Sometimes people are pretending to be ideological fanatics because it is a good way to make money. Or else, it could be a combination of both. Anyway, it is absolutely clear that the military industry oligarchs are making a lot of money in the process independently of the outcome.
Yes, opportunists are the flies to the carrion, but the jackals are the ideological maniacs.
The ideological maniacs are always financed by someone powerful and rational.
Yes, the big Neolibs, the ones who gather at Davos, the .1%, … the ones who benefit so spectacularly from the NWO that the Neocons are warring for.
History is clear: every empire eventually gets the war it is seeking to avoid – its own destruction. As humanity moves towards WWIII, it seems nothing has changed.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
News from bizzarro world: Biden whilst slaughtering Slavs by the thousands passionately condemns violence against one of his caste, Speaker Nancy “Taiwan Rose” Pelosi.
When England vainly supported the Confederacy in the United States Civil war….Slavs suffer today as North Americans did as in a century & a half-past. War is state-sponsered elder abuse & more. This is an elective war that can be undone.
Before the CIA talking pointers/warmongering trolls start regurgitating “unprovoked, unjustified,” here it is from the horse’s mouth: “Biden predicts Putin will ‘move in’ to Ukraine because ‘he has to do something’” January 20, 2022.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/biden-predicts-putin-will-move-in-to-ukraine-because-he-has-to-do-something/2022/01/19/f20c26ce-7972-11ec-b79d-e53ef5e1fbe2_story.html
https://valdaiclub.com/files/39176/
A World Without Superpowers
They are optimistic about the future.
“Putin Blames West for Killing Ukraine Peace Deal in March Several
officials from various nations have said Washington and London kept
Zelensky from signing an agreement with Putin in the early days of the
war”
Between mental midget Liz Truss, warmonger Boris Johnson, senile Joey Biden, and low IQ Loyd Austin it is hard to figure out which one of these dunces has the most responsibility for the breathtaking death and destruction in Ukraine. Zelensky is merely the paid puppet of the West so he does not count in this race to the bottom of the bell shaped curve.
The western oligarchy badly needs to appropriate the natural resources of Russia. They hoped the economic war would weaken Russia to the point of the regime change, so, the pro-western forces could get again the upper hand in Moscow (as it was in Yeltsin time).
What is particular remarkable, this economic war is paid by EU and so far, there no hope anything can be changed in the foreseeable future. This winter is going to be bad, but one can be sure, the next winter will be much worse.
The chickens are coming home to roost in the US.They are getting a small taste of what lies ahead as Capitalism and Imperialism over extend themselves in an effort to continue their quest for world domination which is over due to the increased independence of the third world that they have been exploiting and rapeing forever.Englands empire died and so will Americas.
It is not so easy to rob Asian countries now, so, American imperialists are robbing EU.
Russia is controlled by a dozen bandits while its masses live in squalor on $300 a month. All the smart Russians flee to the West or Israel.
Thank you for the accurate description CT. 🙂
Waiting for the next press conference when all those stenographers for the war party (Raimondo’s words) press Biden for an explanation. But since October is almost gone and that happened way back in March, I would imagine that those questions won’t be forthcoming. Instead, more Putin is the next Hitler tripe.
I doubt Biden remembers that far back…
I agree. Biden is in decline as many of us are, but most of his gaffes have really been blurted out truths. So, I’m started to backtrack on the age thing. Hell, lets prop Diane Feinstein’s eyes open with some toothpicks and vote her in.
hahaha. Oh, Bear.
One day it is reported that the Russian army is routed. The next day I learn that it is not routed but is attacking at some spots along the front. As usual truth is the first victim of war.
We have to wait a while until things become more obvious. I would say so far things aren’t exactly going Russias way. The feint to Kiev cost them a fair amount of their best troops. Their strategic withdrawals seem to have cost them a fair portion of their tanks and artillery which are now being used by the Ukrainians.. Now it looks like a bit of a stalemate but on the Western side we believe the Russians troops at the front line are ill equipped for winter. So maybe general winter can put in an appearance on the Ukrainian side let cold do its work
If those fairy stories make you happy, carry on believing in them.
“Now it looks like a bit of a stalemate but on the Western side we believe the Russians troops at the front line are ill equipped for winter.”
Who is “we”? You and Don? Is Russia in the tropics? Wouldn’t a country with a climate like Russia have plenty of winter clothing to go around? Maybe some of the citizens can send some of those furry hats to the front.
Russia certainly knows about winter, and what it takes to keep troops warm. I have no doubt, the question is will they be able to do it. Do they have the needed supplies? If they have the supplies can they transport it to the front and distribute it? I am curious, time will tell
Why do you think that would be so difficult and why wouldn’t they have the “needed supplies”? Once again, this is Russia where it’s colder than a brass toilet seat on the shady side of an iceberg in some places. And somehow, someway they are conducting a war. I would think cold weather gear is one of their lesser concerns.
How much volume do 200,000 warm sleeping bags take up? That is quite a convoy a big target.
I don’t know about Russia’s Army, but I do know that when I was in the Army, the sleeping bag was standard issue. Do you think they only use sleeping bags in the winter? The idea that a cold climate country like Russia won’t be prepared for winter is fantasy.
When I was in the Marine Corps, a sleeping bag (good for down to Arctic temperatures) was also standard issue, as as long underwear and a field jacket with liner.
Real cold weather operating gear like the “Mickey Mouse” extreme cold weather boots, however, was not.
I would expect the Russian armed forces to be more oriented toward issuing extreme cold weather gear since it has tended, since World War II, to prepare for war in Europe and specifically likely in northern climes.
On the other hand, the Russian regime just announced activation/conscription of some unknown number of people (the speech said 300k trained reservists; the actual published order specified neither a maximum number nor that they be reservists). In the US, “inactive” reservists don’t keep their gear; they turn it in when they stop being active duty troops or “weekend warrior” reservists. And the conscripts who are not reservists wouldn’t have gear either.
Equipping 300,000 troops for actual deployment is a tall order. When the US activated hundreds of thousands of reserve and National Guard troops for Desert Storm, there were all kinds of shortages. They managed to scrape together one set of desert camouflage utilities for each person in my unit, but none of the desert boots until we’d been over there for several weeks. CLP, etc. for cleaning small arms was in short supply. Desert paint for vehicles, I think we got enough of to do half of ours.
You have to have the stuff, and you don’t know how much of it has disappeared or been gnawed on by rats until you actually get it. Then you have to get it from where it is to where you need it to be, and you’re probably relying on the same NCOs who are working 24/7 to keep the CURRENTLY deployed troops supplied to outfit another 300k people and get THEM on their way.
I would think that Russia would equip their troops with standard gear before sending them off. And I would think sleeping bags would be readily available. And I think comparing shortages in Desert Storm is a bit of a stretch since desert gear is something that isn’t always necessary in the US military whereas cold weather gear would most likely always be necessary for Russian forces.
I tend to discount the western rumors that the Russian regime is just fresh out of gear and sending everyone to the front with a lunch bucket and a baseball cap.
BUT: When was the last major Russian military mobilization? The Second Chechen war involved only about 80,000 troops, the Georgia war only 70,000.
How many troops deployed in Ukraine are they already having to keep supplied with food, ammunition, fuel, etc.?
How much does adding 300,000 or more to that number strain everything from transport to stockpiles? How much of that stockpiled equipment is still there? How much is in serviceable shape? How much of it has to be brought by train from, say, Vladivostok?
I’m not trying to be chauvinist here — ALL large military deployments are, to one degree or another, logistics clusterf*cks. Russia’s could be the same, or more so, or less so.
The democrats need a success story in Ukraine to show to public that the budget money was not wasted uselessly or stolen. They invested quite a lot into Ukrainian neo-Nazis.
On 3 March, the second round of peace talks began. Both sides agreed to open humanitarian corridors for evacuating civilians. Russia’s demands were Ukraine’s recognition of Russian-occupied Crimea, independence for separatist-controlled Luhansk and Donetsk, and “de-militarisation” and “de-Nazification”
These were unacceptable demands. De-nazification? No one knows what that means. Give away Ukraine’s most important industrial land to Russia for free?
De-militarization? Yes, very smart, Russia. So you can come back few years later and take the entire Ukraine.
This is not a peace plan, this is a complete surrender to Russia.
“De-militarization? Yes, very smart, Russia. So you can come back few years later and take the entire Ukraine” – before the coup 2014, no one in Kremlin talked even about taking Crimea. Since the coup, 5 regions joined Russia. That happened because Russian people who are living there need protection from neo-Nazi militants. Is it so difficult to understand? They lived 22 years peacefully after the collapse of USSR and there were no reasons for militarization of Ukraine. Why do you think, in Baltic republics, in Poland and in other east-European countries they are always talking about the threat from Russia, but no one ever talked about Russian threat in Mongolia? Because there is no American presence in Mongolia; that’s why. Mongolia is locked between China and Russia and never had any military conflicts or border disputes with the neighbors.
And yet they were close to an agreement. But NATO/US/UK had other plans.
You know Vlad, if you really really wanted peace you could withdraw your troops from Ukraine.
So the Ukranian Nazi’s can continue to kill the Russians living in the Donbass? 14,000 dead before the invasion. The Russians are not the ones that continue to breach the Minsk agreements.
Internal Ukrainian problem, like Chechnya was an internal russian problem
Once again, I am asking for a citation for this figure. Specifically one that indicates that these people were all Russians and were all killed by Ukrainians.
Standard Putin supporter’s playbook response.
If you bothered to learn some history, you’d realize that a withdrawal, given the current lack of security guarantees for the people in the Donbass, along with the lack of guarantees (that’s written guarantees for the uninitiated) re NATO in Ukraine, just ain’t going to happen.
But of course, that would mean you would have to abandon the MSM teat fed by the western MIC and its geriatric poodle in DC.
And the provocations would stop? Or would they increase? What would be your guess? So, the peace you speak of isn’t really peace but a ramped-up continuation of what went on before Russia invaded. I wouldn’t count on that happening but if you repeat it often enough, I guess you might believe it yourself eventually.
Probably not, if by provocation you mean a sovereign Ukraine doing what it thinks best for its people.
If Ukraine wants to be sovereign again then they need to oust the illegal Nazi regime in Kiev and hold democratic elections. If Ukraine wants to be sovereign again they need to stop assassinating opposition leaders, they need to re-instate 13 political parties banned and they need to release the leaders of these parties from captivity.
Russia has intervened to protect the ethnic population from genocide. This civil war that the Nazi’s in Kiev are undertaking has been ongoing for nearly 9 years.
This winter the Europeans are going to be cold, hungry and in the dark. If US/NATO escalates they will also be dead.
By provocations I mean the same sh*t that has been going on for the last 30 years. Those same provocations that YOU AGREED were actual provocations. And it’s almost funny that you think Ukraine is doing what it thinks are best for Ukraine while being used as a sacrificial lamb to “weaken” Russia which the US openly admitted.
When will the Kyiv regime understand that Ukraine is being sacrificed on the altar of US imperialism? The only way for Ukraine to get out of this is by entering into an alliance with Russia. Now that Europe is facing economic decline, Ukraine’s aspirations for prosperity can best be met by becoming part of the Eurasian Union, the SCO and BRICS+.
The Russian MOD is disarming NATO, tank by tank, artillery by artillery, air defense by air defense. What they loose in the Ukraine, they loose for the final war. This is what a war of attrition is.
Russia is inflicting a 10:1 kill ratio. And NATO overall has the following equipment losses;
327 Aircraft, 164 helicopters, 2370 UAV’s, 384 Anti Aircraft systems, 6162 tanks inc. APC’s, 878 multiple rocket launchers, 3536 rocket launchers and 6863 military automotive equipment.
Ukraine to date has not made a formal declaration of war, why? Neither has US/EU/NATO made a declaration of war but continue to attack Russia. There is a point where Russia will declare war against US/EU/NATO that point is fast approaching.
It’s time for Putin to take responsibility for this disaster, he’s the one ultimately in charge. He can only fire so many generals and try to change the narrative by cancelling some grain shipments. It’s just pathetic.
This is not a disaster for Russia. Moscow has clearly stated the aims of the SMO……Disarm and DeNazification.
Your question of responsibility should be directed at the Western powers who violently overthrew the government in 2014.
You just think Putin got up one morning and for no reason at all sent forces into Ukraine? What then is Minsk1 and Minsk2?
So now you say Putin got up one morning and for no reason at all he stopped the grain getting shipped. The grain shipments where attacked by Western powers in Sevastopol and Russia can no longer guarantee their safety. The western powers have no one else to blame but themselves.
A massive defeat is coming for the west and they know it.
There are no grain shipments from Sevastapol!
The ships that protect and transport the grain are. This is the reason for the attack, to blame the Russians at the G20 and hopefully ban them from taking part.
The Western powers are complete psychopaths. I repeat your question of responsibility should be directed at the Western powers who violently overthrew the government in 2014.
But we both know you wont be doing that. What then is Minsk1 and Minsk2? Crickets.
When we heard last time any Americans peace initiative in history? Zero Times.
Peace initiative is not American way of life, conflicts,mass shootings,dealing with foreign countries with double standards sounds familiar.
First very big mistake is taking up proxy war with Russian neighbour Ukraine,now China is really considering to invade to Taiwan,in fact this is the perfect time to do it,and if Ukraine issue not resolved then,China and Russian Federation automatically are allies and that’s really would end not so well.