A Pentagon official told Congress on Friday that there are no “offensive” biological weapons in any of the dozens of US-linked labs in Ukraine.
“I can say to you unequivocally there are no offensive biologic weapons in the Ukraine laboratories that the United States has been involved with,” Deborah Rosenbaum, the assistant secretary of defense for nuclear, chemical, and biological defense programs, told the House Armed Services subcommittee.
The Pentagon funds labs in Ukraine through its Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA). According to a Pentagon fact sheet released last month, since 2005, the US has “invested” $200 million in “supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites.”
Moscow has accused Ukraine of conducting an emergency clean-up of a secret Pentagon-funded biological weapons program when Russia invaded. The World Health Organization said it advised Ukraine to destroy “high-threat pathogens” around the time of the invasion.
For their part, the US maintains that the program in Ukraine and other former Soviet states is meant to reduce the threat of biological weapons left over from the Soviet Union. While downplaying the threat of the labs, Pentagon officials have also warned that they could still contain Soviet-era bioweapons.
Robert Pope, the director of the DTRA’s Cooperative Threat Reduction Program, told the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists in February that the labs might contain Soviet bioweapons and warned that the fighting in Ukraine could lead to the release of a dangerous pathogen.
The Biden administration has tried to portray any concerns about the labs as “Russian propaganda.” When the issue gained more media attention, Biden officials started accusing Moscow of plotting to use chemical or biological weapons, but the US hasn’t presented any evidence to back up its claims.
So…1.Why did Nuland express very real concern over the Russians getting control of them 2.Why are there so many such joint US Ukraine labs there?
The “Russia disinformation” claim smells like a smokescreen to deflect from Nulands statement which can have no other reasonable explanation other than a very real expression of concern. We wont get an answer in this full on propaganda war of course.
Nuland expressed very real concern that she and the Communists In Action would be exposed by the Russians.
Have we ever got an honest answer or explanation from the Kremlin so far?
Bout as often as you get from the usa
At least the media stations in the US are having different opinions, in Russia they are all singing like a choir, ROFL.
‘different opinions?’ Shades of grey is the reality of the agenda
Good thing all comrades in Russia agree 100% about everything, all the time 😉
Yea, i guess thats why they are getting arrested for protesting the war..
How can you say such a thing with Butler as you icon???? Did you even read ‘War is a racket’? They couldnt do it without the media and the bs propaganda…
‘All you have to do is take a look at the hundreds of foreign wars we have been involved in throughout even just the last 2 decades to see this is not normal. I don’t recall any other world leader giving a speech on Grammy’s night (although correct me if I’m wrong). Also, this man’s country is getting bombed and he’s got time to put a ring light on and give a heartfelt message to the American public for Grammy’s night? Look, I’m not saying Russia is good— not at all. I’m not taking a side here. I’m just saying this should be raising alarm bells for everyone that this blatant propaganda is being aired at an awards show and no one questions a thing. Something about Zelensky is so off…’
Maybe something about Zelensky is off, but Putin is someone not even the dog would drag in.
he dragged trump in and made him his pee-bitch
That is a complete Lie and Russia has the Documents to Prove it.
“they could still contain Soviet-era bioweapons”.
If they do that’s Ukraine’ s and its paymaster’s (US) problem.
The Soviet Union ceased to exist over thirty years ago. Not having destroyed them in half most peoples’ working lives is incredible, and that suggests that US is either incompetent or duplicitous.
Bioweapons are living organisms, or as in anthrax spores or other stages of life the can be rapidly reactivated for use. Unlike military hardware, these bio forms require care and of feeding, temperature control, care and protection from the elements. Very few, if any, bio-pathogens can be put in a vial and stored in a dark room for 5, or ten years and be reactivated as a deadly agent. What the Ukies claim about old stocks is absurd on its face, which shows on Victoria Nuland’s face when she claims that she fears Russia will get the pathogens in Ukrainian U.S. Pentagon funded biolabs they posses, or have produced. Two hundred million dollars buys a lot of germs and pathogens, where are they now??
I am in my 80th year; was born in California and now live in Massachusetts.
Now I’m seeing the country for what it is; Americans have been fine with killing brown people and incensed when unprovoked heathen Russian barbarians have the nerve to kill white people on suddenly uncensored American TV.
Good for you Garrett! (80 and wonderful!)
What you say makes good sense to me (I am part Comanche)!
Awesome, Donna! The Comanche took no s*** from anyone!
“unprovoked heathen Russian barbarians”
Putin is Russian Orthodox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#Religion
“white people”
“Several lines of evidence now strongly suggest that the snipers in the February 20, 2014 massacre that sent the protests spinning toward civil war were not government forces but members of the ultranationalist insurgency”
https://original.antiwar.com/ted_snider/2022/03/30/partnering-with-neo-nazis-in-ukraine-an-inconvenient-history/#disqus_thread
Are we talking about the same “white people”!!!
Divisive identity politics does nothing but damage the anti-war movement.
Well, they would say that, wouldn’t they????
The latest from the documents Russia now has is that the sick evil US Bstards were planning to let the Nazi’s aerosol the bioweapons with race-specific viruses as in ,anti-Slavic anti-Russian, from drones high above Russia.
Read that again and let it sink in. That’s enough evidence for Russia to in a first strike wipe the US off the map in self defence. Sick evil Bstards.
“The latest from last fall’s James Bond film is that …”
Fixed, no charge.
Nobody is accusing you or any other American so don’t be so fast to take it personally, it’s your regime. There’s evidence for it and more is coming up so I guess you just have to get used to it.
There’s no such thing as a “race-specific virus,” because there’s no such thing as “race-specific” DNA. All humans are 99.9% identical to each other genetically, and the other 0.1% neither appears uniformly in specific “races” nor is limited to those “races.”
Designing a “race-specific virus” is like trying to design a square sphere. It isn’t just that no such thing exists, it’s that no such thing can exist.
As an example of the futility of a “race-specific” viruses, how would you design a virus to kill, say, ethnic Russians (like Vladimir Putin) but to not kill Ashkenazi Jews (like Vladimir Putin)?
“not kill Ashkenazi Jews (like Vladimir Putin)”
Putin is Russian Orthodox!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin#Religion
Yes, he is. What does that have to do with anything? Russian Orthodox is a religion, not an ethnicity, like the Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity listed for his mother on his 2000 passport application.
Like the mother who had Putin baptized!!!
Google, “Putin’s baptism”
I’m well aware of Putin’s “I was secretly baptized as a child” story and have no opinion on its truth or falsehood.
That doesn’t change his (or his mother’s) ethnicity.
Looks like a Christian gravesite to me!!!
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19300864#/media/File:Grave_of_Vladimir_Putin's_parents.jpg
Is there some part of “religion and ethnicity are not the same thing” that you don’t understand?
You and antiwar’s credibility are compromised when any discussion of ethnicity comes up per your comments here:
https://original.antiwar.com/cook/2022/03/22/social-media-giants-allow-hate-speech-against-russia-but-silence-israels-critics/#disqus_thread
Is Vladimir Putin discredited when he lists his mother’s ethnicity as Ashkenazi Jewish on his passport application?
Is Vladimir Putin discredited when he lists his mother’s ethnicity as Ashkenazi Jewish on his passport application?
Is Vladimir Putin discredited when he lists his mother’s ethnicity as Ashkenazi Jewish on his passport application?
Even though we’re not Russian by ethnicity, my sister is Russian Orthodox, just because she loves the church. We grew up Roman Catholic, per my mother, who was French-Canadian.
Strange, my comment that Putin is a Russian Orthodox held back 8 previous comments.!!!
As an example of the futility of a “race-specific” viruses, how would you design a virus to kill, say, ethnic Russians (like Vladimir Putin) but to not kill Ashkenazi Jews (like Vladimir Putin)?
As an example of the futility of a “race-specific” viruses, how would you design a virus to kill, say, ethnic Russians (like Vladimir Putin) but to not kill Ashkenazi Jews (like Vladimir Putin)?
That doesn’t obviously prevent the US from trying.
Russia and China, who rightfully are furious, are surrounded by these biolabs and evidence speak for itself.
And notice how as Moscow guards the Eurasian continent Beijing inks a deal in the Solomon Islands, thus projecting awesome naval power throughout the south Pacific.
The last president of Iran warned the US not to send B grade checker players against chess masters.
Truth does not limit budget padding speculation.
Yes true many times over. You are just being sane and logical. Do not assume that all the military contracts are rational and science based. We have a provrn history if horrific experimentation on humans against their will and without the knowledge and approvsl of us, unwashed masses.
If our history is my guide, yes, I am incluned to believe nefarious imtentions are behind the secrecy.
There is a VAST world out there, and CNN does not control its narative. It is probably worse than we think.
“The latest from the documents Russia now has…”
come on nikki if you have a copy of any documents Russia now has then you should share that with the rest of us.
It’s all over internet news the US invested hundreds of millions in defensive bio labs. Victoria Nuland told the US Congress. Those documents are also circulating on the internet. People in South Africa read an article about about this today, or maybe yesterday. Nobody knows much. That’s why the Chinese government keeps insisting it wants answers.
really? google “US biolabs in ukraine, russian documents”
what comes up is articles claiming that “US biolabs in ukraine is russian disinfo”
well maybe the people in S.A. have a different google than i do.
yes nuland admitted to the presence of said biolabs.
however, nikki claimed that “russians have the documents”, as if nikki has seen these documents – which i am unable to see.
Or human jumping, gene-specific designer migrating bird viruses.
What are “defensive” biological weapons? Whatever they are in US terminology, this is a de facto admission that they are there.
Yes, these are the DEFENSIVE BIOWEAPONS!
It is like those launchers in Romania and Poland — only for missile DEFENDE. Yes, good enough for PR. It took them a while to come up with that!
It’s another slam dunk.
Found in Chinese Glibal Times that Russia has released some information from the documenration it recovered. Andvit has names of Pentagon employees and the contractors working inbtge porogram. But most disturbing seens to be the plan to use it on Dinbas population. The released information links Biden’s son to the contractor.
Russia better be careful about releasing anything at this time to prevent a predictable response — a bio incident to be blamed on Russia.
The last Bond movie in all of its Bondishness was onto something.
Russia is a state, and more than that a state at war.
“Releasing information” in that context is no more particularly trustworthy than other examples of same, e.g. Colin Powell waving a vial around in front of the UN General Assembly.
Yes, this is very true.
I was just referring to a councidence — and I tend not to believe in those.
Russia relesees informattion — clearly still partial. And Pentagon declares that those labs did not produce offendive biological weapons. It would have been more reassuring if Pentagon stated clearly thst those labs oroduced harmless vaccines.
It is also true that our mainstream media has become a full war-time propsganda instrument. No information contrary to its narrativve is available.
This is why we are reduced to tracking information from multiple sources — most committed to partisan straight-jacket.
No choice but to peruse everything available. Asian media, with all of its built in biases, has proven to be most open to information.
Gleaning those, I do not think that the biolab story is going away any time soon.
Fairy tales are nothing new from the Pentagon…..
Saying that these “high-threat pathogens” in “… the Ukraine laboratories that the United States has been involved with…” are not “…offensive biologic weapons…” seems to be an excellent example of polishing a turd.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/biobiden-ukraine-conducting-bio-war-us-toxic-mosquito-drones/
Give it some time, this crap will float to the surface.
After all the revelations who can believe a word from the empire of lies. Why were the labs in Pentagon hands and not civilian control? Why weren’t ukie scientist and specialists allowed inside those labs?
What were the causes and who was responsible for the outbreak of diseases in Ukraine a few years ago? All of these from the same criminals who gave the world Covid 19.
The yankee Empire of Lies.
We can go back to Saddam’s wmd, iraqi soldiers throwing out babies from incubators, Gadaffi giving his soldier’s viagra to commit mass rape ( Hillary Clinton), Gadaffi about to bomb his own people ( hence the no- fly zone that was a cover for nato to carpet bomb Libya.
Most disgusting and shameless liars in the history 0f the modern world .and yet no sanctions on them and their criminal allies
a biological weapon is a biological weapon… there is no offensive or defensive distinctions… a biological weapon is internationally banned
more lies
When the war department became the department of defense the ministry of truth had come to fruition.
Yeah, sure.
“While downplaying the threat of the labs, Pentagon officials have also
warned that they could still contain Soviet-era bioweapons.
They COULD contain Soviet bio-weapons? Do we not KNOW what’s in our own bio-labs? The answer is either ‘yes’ or ‘no’; there’s no ‘they could’ to it at all.
As for ‘offensive’ versus ‘defensive’ weapons, it’s largely a matter of how it’s used. If you attack someone with a knife, it’s an offensive weapon; if you defend yourself… you get the point.
So the coup on Ukraine happened in 2014. Obama prohibited Gain of Function Research in 2014. GOF research was prohibited in most of the West. Why would the Pentagon fund clandestine Ukrainian bio Labs?
There were military games held in Wuhan which ended at the end of October 2019, one month and a half before the virus was detected in Wuhan. It would be interesting to see if there were any Ukrainian soldiers participating n those games.
No “offensive bio-weapons”. Is COVID considered a weapon?
If so, it’s not a very good one. Its kill, or even incapacitation, rate among physically fit people under 70 is miniscule.
OK, so there might be some old Soviet bio-weapons laying around that we haven’t yet gotten around to getting rid of after over 30 years. Sounds reasonable.
Because we label them Defensive. Right guys?