On Wednesday, President Trump again threatened the possibility of the US taking military action against Iran and suggested Israel might “lead” the attack.
“If it requires military, we’re going to have military,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office when asked if the US would attack if a nuclear deal isn’t reached with Iran.
“Israel will obviously be very much involved in that — it’ll be the leader of that. But nobody leads us. We do what we want to do,” he added.
Trump’s latest threat comes ahead of negotiations between the US and Iran that will be held in Oman this Saturday. The talks will be attended by Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and Trump’s Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff.
Trump has insisted the talks will be direct negotiations, while Aragchi has said they will be indirect, meaning Omani mediators will pass messages between the two sides. Reports have said that Iran would need a goodwill gesture from the US to hold direct talks, such as the removal of some sanctions. But the Trump administration continues to impose sanctions and added new ones on Wednesday.
Trump has been increasing sanctions on Iran and threatening the country over its nuclear program even though US intelligence agencies recently reaffirmed that there’s no evidence Tehran is building a bomb.
Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian restated Iran’s long-standing pledge in comments on Wednesday. “We are not after a nuclear bomb,” Pezeshkian added. “You have verified it 100 times. Do it 1,000 times again,” he said.
Pezeshkian also said that Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was not opposed to US investment in Iran. “His excellency has no opposition to investment by American investors in Iran,” he said. “American investors: Come and invest.”
Operation Opera, also known as Operation Babylon, was a surprise airstrike conducted by the Israeli Air Force on 7 June 1981, which destroyed the Iraqi nuclear reactor located southeast of Baghdad, Iraq.
Iran provided Israel with some intelligence on that attack because Iran was afraid that if Saddam Hussein produced nuclear weapons, that he would use them on Iran.
The Iran-Iraq War, a prolonged military conflict, began in September 1980 with Iraq's invasion of Iran and ended in a stalemate with a ceasefire in August 1988, after nearly eight years of fighting.
Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, aimed to assert Iraqi dominance in the region and potentially replace Iran as the leading power in the Persian Gulf.
Iran provided Israel with some intelligence on that attack because Iran was afraid that if Saddam Hussein produced nuclear weapons, that he would use them on Iran.
Saddam's nukes would have been an afterthought. Iraq was Iran's mortal enemy. They would have provided intelligence to ANYONE willing to attack Iraq for ANY reason.
Well, now Iran is playing Saddam's game and will get the same results. Israel also took out Syria's nuclear reaction, and the world is not unhappy about that piece of history either.
Iran isn't Iraq numbnuts.
I hope that I am wrong, but it seems to me that the direct talks between the US and Iran are designed to fail. Israel has put conditions upon an agreement that would require Iran to “blow up” all their nuclear facilities. Netanyahu suggests that the US follow the “Libyan Model” for denuclearization, referring to when Muammar Gaddafi dismantled all their facilities. Of course, the US attacked and helped overthrow Gaddafi anyway, something I am sure the Iranians are aware of. In short, Israel is demanding concessions from Iran that they are highly likely to reject. Which is the point.
It is highly unlikely that Trump will blatantly buck the Israel lobby and negotiate a deal with Iran that cuts against Israel’s express desires to have the US engage in a direct war against Iran. The US has gone to war against all of Israel’s enemies from Libya to Syria and is currently abetting a genocide in Gaza at the behest of the Israelis. There is no reason to think this will be different.
The point of the direct talks seems to be to give cover to the administration. They will claim “well, we tried, and Iran rejected peace. The war is all their fault”. Such a war would be an unmitigated disaster for all concerned, most especially the innocent. Perhaps I am wrong, but if past is prologue, then we should all be worried about the next installment in the empire’s endless series of wars.
You're not wrong.
You’re not wrong either NA!
Stop the BS. Your conclusion: "Perhaps I am wrong, but if past is prologue, then we should all be worried about the next installment in the empire’s endless series of wars."
Israel is the first independent nation in the geographical area Palestine since the Romans sacked Jerusalem 2000 years ago.
Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state .
-Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Godfrey IV of Boulogne, known as Godfrey de Bouillon, conqueror of Jerusalem in 1099
-Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
-Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
Regardless of whether there was a Palestinian state there was a people living there before 1948, when Israel illegitimately declared itself a nation and proceeded to remove 750K people off their land. The next 76 years have seen a systematic program of murder and land theft, which is the sine qua non of Zionism. The elementary school level recitation of controlling empires over the millennia does not negate the industrial scale murder perpetrated by the modern nation of Israel.
I have never defended the record of odious regimes such as Saudi Arabia, which have oppressed their peoples with copious amounts of US support. It appears that you are making the House of Saud the standard of behavior for the rogue state of Israel. I am content to condemn all human rights violators equally based upon their record. However, the greater weight of moral opprobrium must fall upon the aggressor, and that is clearly Israel and her imperial master the United States.
Yes. I am talking about the US empire, maybe you’ve heard of it. The world’s only global hegemon, with a blood-soaked track record of not giving a shit about the human rights of anyone, demanding only compliant behavior. Your attempt to defend Israel fails, shattered upon the rocks of reality. I suggest you wake up and smell what you are shoveling.
Just for you- If you are going to have a contest, over 50 million Europeans, raised in Christian homes, killed each other within a few years in WWII Europe, and 6 million of a certain faith, men, women, and children were rounded up for extermination, while the Vatican remained neutral throughout the war.
Have you forgotten what 2,000 years of Christian love looked like in Europe, with all the wars, pogroms, inquisitions, genocides, slave trading, and the decimation of native tribes throughout the New World and tribal Africa. All the conquers that came to the New World and Africa were flying the flags of Christian Kings with the blessings of the Church.
Yawn! I have spilled copious amounts of digital ink railing against those who claim to follow Christ, but who advocate violence which is completely contrary to the Gospel. Why would one think that fallen messengers are a condemnation of the Message.
What message? You know nothing of Jesus, as there is no evidence that he ever wrote anything down in his lifetime. The Gospels were written in Greek and Jesus would have spoken to his people in a semitic language. If the story is true, he lived his first 30 years with his earthly father as a carpenter in the very small town of Nazareth, where they spoke a dialect of Hebrew.
You don't even know the date Jesus was born or if his mother was a virgin. Your modern religion was a gift of the Romans, translated many times and full of fantasy an fiction accounts of history as is much of the Old Testament.
That's why they call it faith. My faith makes Christ visible. If that faith is not something you have grasped, well, I will of course pray for you. May you be granted the peace that you seem so willing to deny the opponents of Israel.
When has there ever been peace in that geographical area, certainly not in Jesus time. God is just a concept, not a person that controls the universe or made it in six days.
Jesus is visible just like Santa Claus, as we know what he looks like, what he wears, where he lives, his mode of transportation, the names of his reindeer, etc, as all concepts can be made visible with imagination.
"When has there ever been peace in that geographical area…? "
Certainly not now when Israel is the source of war, destruction and corruption.
Can you name an Arab Country that supports Hamas' methods????
Egypt banned Hamas and branded it a terrorist organization. Egypt even built a steel war to keep Hamas out.
Jordan banned Hamas in 1999. In 2013, Jordan rejected requests to allow Hamas to return.
Hamas and Lebanon’s Hezbollah disagree and were fighting with each other in recent Syrian civil war (Sunni/Shiite conflict).
Syria says- Hamas is an uninvited guest
Saudi Arabia says they will arrest Hamas members on the spot
No question is stupid for those who want to learn. Ask a question to show that you at least want to learn.
Of course Israel supporters can ask these dumb questions because it makes logical sense for genociders but this propaganda paraded around as questions don't lead to a good place.
A question you should be asking me is how popular is Hamas on the streets of these Arab capitals? And the fact that the people are afraid to express their views and support is even a bigger indictment against Israel and these corrupt Arab governments. The tension will ultimately blow up in the faces of Israel and the Arab governments.
In addition, just yesterday Hamas petitioned the UK government to be removed from the terrorist list. Deal with the chutzpah of these people. They brought Israel to its knees on Oct. 7th, they defeated it on the battlefield, even in the ceasefire their treatment of the captives compared to Israeli treatment of Palestinians exposed Israel as an ugly monster and now Zionists are panic stricken. They see khamasss everywhere, and rightfully so.
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Religion is philosophy, fairytales, written by fallible human beings about human beings.
That is all religion is, people interpret the tales as they want to understand them. the Bible, Quran, and Tora all three serve the same purpose, good and bad, as needed.
@disqus_WXsl4CCjPi:disqus OMG, I don't get it. Does the same applies to Abraham and Moses (peace be upon them all)? So s/he rattles off how long the tribe was in a diaspora claiming to be the first inhabitants of Palestine based on a book s/he questions and a god they don't believe in gave them the land??? No wonder these people who can inflict a genocide and those who support them need a team of psychiatrists. @disqus_0oi5s9B9ju:disqus@renatelittlejohn:disqus@warsrus:disqus
The concept of God did not give land to anyone. However, history is history, however, those who all contributed to the one tiny State of Israel broke their backs to build and secure this one tiny nation in a sea of Islamic States, where there not been an independent state since the Romans sacked Jerusalem 2000 years ago.
So what. Progress isn't measured by an anachronistic concept of what a nation state should be. The concept of Zionism is antithetical to Judaism.
Under the ottoman empire a Muslim (or a yahudi for that matter) could travel from Morocco to the borders of Iran without a passport.
An Israeli can't travel to neighboring countries unless s/he has a second passport. What are you so proud of? Israel is a pariah state.
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I will agree that the 'Old Testament' is a book of fables, not denying that there is a lot of wisdom and truth about human nature in the books, but I'm not buying Jonah and the Whale concoction, Noah's Ark, Tower of Babel and many other myths.
It is mostly fantasy and fictional accounts of history, start with the creation going forward.
And all is based on the prevailing culture of the writers.
The United States is certainly not the perfect nation. Here's a Catholic Christian perspective on the USA and other things
https://www.markmallett.com/blog/mystery-babylon/
I suppose you claim to be walking the path of Jesus
Religion is the propaganda used to sell brutal genocidal wars, nothing new about that. But modern weapons industrialized the brutality of the mass killings.
@disqus_WXsl4CCjPi:disqus This is hilarious. When the tribe was riding high and exploiting and benefiting from the American empire, I didn't hear these bold outbursts. Now that Americans are waking up, they're throwing everyone under the bus. Again with that besieged victimhood mentality/superiority complex.
These people have a lot to atone for, trust us we have lived with them for centuries.
"6 million of a certain faith"
I doubt there were six million Jehovah's witnesses rounded up and murdered.
The six million Jews rounded up and murdered were of various faiths, including no faith at all.
I dunno – the Ihovians (in Latin, 'Jehovah' begins with an " i ") are extremely and constantly worried about being minutes away from being rounded up and persecuted by Whichever Government Is Nearby. The have to be one of THE most paranoid sects of Christianity.
Polish President Andrzej Duda: Six million Poles, half of them Jewish, were killed during World War II.
Whose indigenous people's land have you chosen to live in and raise your family?
You put up the sign of the Christian faith and ignore your own blood soaked history in Europe, the Middle East, African, and the Americas. I would not want you to be a hypocrite.
A more damning admission to Zionist genocide could not be made.
You make a great case against yourself.
I will come and visit you when I need a break from reality.
You do that, peewee. A break you’ll get – maybe more than one.
I agree that the situation in US history looks a lot like that of the history of modern Israel, probably one reason why the US has such an affinity for Israel. I am not advocating that all the Jewish people be expelled from Israel, any more that I am advocating all the descendants of European colonizers be expelled from North America. That ship has sailed. I am advocating some sort of reasonably just solution, such as a two-state solution, which itself is a massive concession by the Palestinians, who would receive only 22% of what the UN promised. Recognizing history is important but we still must live in the reality of the options before us. All of that is immaterial in the moment. First, we must stop the genocide.
Who are you going to talk to about this as Hamas has vowed the total destruction of Israel with no compromise. They say they don't want a two state solution. They never did. So who are you going to talk to???
Hamas "say[s] they don't want a two state solution"?
Not only false, but a lie – since that is well-known to be false.
Perhaps the Israeli regime should stop cooperating with Hamas and the PA to ensure than any would-be Palestinian Gandhi/MLK gets murdered to maintain the status quo.
Just for you Mr. Christian– Manifest Destiny, a phrase coined in 1845, is the idea that the United States is destined—by God, its advocates believed—to expand its dominion and spread democracy, capitalism, and Christianity across the entire North American continent. The philosophy drove 19th-century U.S. territorial expansion and was used to justify the forced removal of Native Americans and other groups from their homes. The rapid expansion of the United States intensified the issue of slavery as new states were added to the Union, leading to the outbreak of the Civil War.
Watch these morons give the thumbs down to very documented history!
See my previous comment about what I have said regarding Christianistas. Your repetition is getting tiresome. I will leave you to your worship of the modern day Moloch known as Israel.
If you could answer a question honestly, I would not have to repeat the questions.
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Jesus is Palestinian. ✝️🇵🇸✝️
Yes he was, but Jesus was not a Muslim, he did not speak Arabic. He had his own historical language, religious philosophy, dietary and religious laws and moral principles.
He spoke Aramaic like everybody else did at the time and yes he had moral principles, that’s why they screamed for his crucifixion, just like they would today.
He was no Zionist.
Why would Jesus be a zionist when he was already living in the land of Zion?
Zionism is a political movement advocating for the establishment and development of a Jewish state in the historical homeland. Jesus was a Jew already living in the land of Israel or Zion.
You assume B & O is Christian. I am of the understanding that he is a Sikh hip-hop artist under the name of T. Dove (hence the profile pic) and his first album (which was certified Gold, mind you) was titled "Believe & Obey" (available on Amazon and The Spotify).
"Manifest Destiny, a phrase coined in 1845."
Two acts of plagiarism in a row, little pee – yr intellectual unscrupulousness is a quite the pattern – bettered only by yr smearing posters on this website as "pro-Hamas."
Folks get named to Trump by Canary, we'll know who to thank.
It is called research and is easily verifiable.
Manifest Destiny: the 19th-century doctrine or belief that the expansion of the US throughout the American continents was both justified and inevitable.
The annexation of lands to the west of the United States borders at the time on the continent. The concept became one of several major campaign issues during the 1844 presidential election, where the Democratic Party won and the phrase "Manifest Destiny" was coined within a year. —US History. Org
Calling Israel “independent” seems like a stretch. Once it starts mailing the US welfare checks back instead of cashing them, it might start developing a claim to independence.
Exactly. They are about as independent as U.S. politicians are from the Zionist Lobby.
LOL
The number of lobbyists in Washington is estimated to be over 12,000, but most lobbying (in terms of expenditures), is handled by fewer than 300 firms.
Have you ever heard of the Arab Oil Lobby? Saudi Arabia with a GDP of $786.5B ranked the 18th largest economy in the world, while Israel ranked 34th with $370.6B.
symbiosis
Thanks Tom for tempering our emotions with that detached level headedness.
The US is helping Israel to defend itself. If Hamas was able to murder more Israelis because they do not have Iron Dome, they Israel would have to level Gaza to make it stop. So the US is actually saving lives in Gaza.
"The US is helping Israel to defend itself."
The US is helping the extreme-right Netanyahu government continue a genocidal siege – that the majority of Israelis oppose – so that he can stay in power:
"69% of Israelis, 54% of coalition voters back ending war in exchange for hostages — poll" (Times of Israel, 3/28/25)
You don't support Israel, and you don't support the majority will of its citizens – who want Netanyahu to negotiate returning hostages for permanent ceasefire:
instead, you support the criminal Netanyahu & company's increasingly unpopular and genocidal ethnic cleansing project.
Good one…you're joking, right?
A nice cut and paste of history that says zero about current issues. But in the interest of historical accuracy, are you actually claiming that because there was, once upon a time, an “independent state of Israel” in the approximate current location, 2000 years later there’s some special “right” the supposed descendants of those people have? Utter nonsense.
Let’s live in the here and now: equal rights for all people in any nation. For all its sins, the USA now provides equality at least under the law for all citizens as do all European countries. One state, now!
Humans live all over the planet. Israel was built by those who broke their backs to build an independent nation.
In 1947, the UN offered two stateless people an opportunity to build two independent nations. One group chose to build a nation, and five Arab Countries chose war and they lost.
Israel declared statehood in 1948, and in 1949 became member State at the United Nations. Palestinian Arabs were then occupied by Egypt in Gaza and Jordan in the West Bank for the next 20 years until they decided to go to war with Israel again and they lost again.
For twenty years there were no Israeli settlements in the West Bank or Gaza, and yet Israel was a constant target. So it was never really about settlements. Arab Countries just did not want a non-Muslim country in the Middle East.
The UN had no right to dispossess the already residing peoples of Palestine of their homes. None whatsoever.
But again, that’s neither here nor there. I care about the CURRENT alive people of the area and their need for peace, justice, dignity, and equality. That is what we should be about and support.
They chose war instead of building a nation in the land they were allotted. I did not fabricate this history.
"… and five Arab Countries chose war and they lost."
So is it ok once Israel loses the current round of war?
Since some members of the tribe "broke its back" to establish a state, do you offer the same prerogative to the Palestinians?
When you occupy territory by war, you can try to keep it, settle it and claim its yours. However, Spartan Israel has not known a day of rest, except for those few exceptions like oct. 7th when they were snoozing.
You make a case for might makes right but, nothing else… and even that might is crumbling before our eyes.
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Not too long ago America belonged to the Indian tribes, or not? Do you know what happened to the American Indians? Can they get their land back?
> “Can [American Indians] get their land back?”
Maybe, if the industries are willing to release the EPA Superfund sites….
jakesqueek, you've rolled out a long history lesson to say nothing of value.
"jakesqueek, you've rolled out a long history lesson to say nothing of value."
little pisser 'rolls it' off of AI generators or website cut and paste jobs – not a lot of his own words.
As most trolls do. I give jake credit for his pithy little comments. They still suck, but at least he uses his own words.
I had that impression, yes.
reading poopstink's posts is like sitting in a rocking chair…
it'll give you something to do…
but it isn't getting you anywhere.
He’s like all the other Apartheid State of Israel and UkroNazi Apologists – when confronted with direct questions, they fall silent, ducking & dodging honest engagement
it’s gotta be spiritual blindness.
Christian Zionists are the world’s worst.
I used to be one.
If Jesus walked into a mega-church this weekend…
He’d be immediately maced and arrested as an anti-semite.
Folks! is this guy serious? Or just being intellectually dishonest? The Nation State construct developed in Europe gradually, especially between the 17th and 19th centuries. Decolonization of the 1900's spread the nation state model worldwide.
Hertzel's "Zionism" was a manifestation of that construct. Before that, Yehud identified with their religion rather than a nation state. The Palestinians were like any other colonized people seeking their own nation state. No one disputes their ties to PALESTINE. Thus this "Palestinians" don't exist trope is in the befuddled minds of people like Mike Huckabee and the other "Great" leaders running the US (into the ground, I might add).
And this hilarious recount of history misses one BIG point; the Yehud were not first! (According to the Torah, Abraham purchased a plot of land for his grave from a Canaanite) In addition to the Canaanites, the SEMITIC Beduins roamed the Holy Land since recorded history. What's also hilarious is that Moses (peace be upon him married a Midianite woman (Midianites are an Arab tribe). On top of that some Yehud converted to Islam. So whose who???
You want an accurate account and thoughtful view of the conflict historically and going forward read my poem here.
https://awnubani.medium.com/ojerusalem-75ad238b88c6
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jakesqueek might also think Italy was a complete country with modern borders after the fall of the Roman Empire, that Germany was likewise immediately its current form when the Huns decided to incorporate for tax purposes or something, and that indeed, a "country" or modern nation-state dates back to ancient Egypt or some s**t. It is, as you said, a fairly modern sociopolitical construct.
"jakesqueek." Are you saying its one and the same person or they might as well be?
They’re either basically the same person, or jake figured out how spellcheck and punctuation and capitalizing words work.
In neither case are we getting any new, compelling, or fact-based arguments to refute the mountain of evidence indicting the government of Israel in regards to genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity, dishonesty in general and dishonorable conduct specifically.
"Before that, Yehud identified with their religion rather than a nation state."
There were Jews who didn't identify with Judaism long before the rise of the Westphalian nation-state.
I read your poem, Ashraf and appreciate poetic history, connection and passion between artist and subject.
Why thank you, much appreciated.
"Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian sta-"
Those are not pee's words – and that is plagiarism. Little pee is a plagiarist.
Advance thanks for linking next time – so readers can inspect and evaluate your authorities.
The Hebrews took possession of the fertile lands of Canaan through the genocide of the Canaanites- conveniently on God's orders.
Now, while it is true that Hebrews/Jews have lived in the lands now claimed by the state of Israel for about 3500 years, it is also true that ownership of those lands has been by right of possession. During those 3500 years- which you so diligently illustrated through your cut and paste timeline- the Jews have been in possession, or rulership, of those lands only for about 500 of those years and few of those consecutively. The Egyptians, Assyrians, Roman, even the Persians and more owned and ruled the land for far longer than the Jews.
If, on the other hand, prior habitation is the yardstick for ownership- as the state of Israel demanded- then Iran has more of a claim to the land than does Israel!
What Empire are you talking about? Since the invention of Islam, Arabs have a historical track record. Egyptians were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic. Syrians (Assyrians) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Moroccans, Libyans, and Tunisia (Berbers) were not Arabs, nor did they speak Arabic, Iraqis (Kurds, Assyrians, Armenians, Azides, etc) were not Arabs nor did they speak Arabic, Libya was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, the Sudan (tribal Africa) was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic, Tunisia was not Arab, nor did they speak Arabic. —-Why are they all called "Arab" Countries, “Arab” States, belong to the League of “Arab” Nations, and have to live under some form of Islamic Sharia?
Looks like you are just a new troll replacement.
As with iPhones, no real improvement over the last version.
What Empire are you talking about?—- There are 57 declared Muslim States at the United Nations, all members of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the largest voting bloc at the UN General Assembly.—– Do you have a balanced scale?
How many of those Countries are bastions of equal human rights, women's rights, religious rights, gay rights, freedom of speech, press and expression? I believe the West has come the furthest on those issues.
If you are a Christian Arab, you cannot even gain citizenship in Saudi Arabia the birthplace of Muhammad, or even enter the holiest City of Mecca.
GREAT TUTORIAL…NOW SELL US ON THE 'RIGHTS' OF MUSLIMS/CHRISTIANS IN NOAHIDE ISRAEL?
The West is NOT a bastion of human rights, that is real B*ll Sh*t. Gaza and the WB is proof of that, there is much more, but what more do you need?
The Iran Deal to stop enriching uranium above what was needed for peaceful purposes was unanimous with the UN Security Council, the IAEA Board of Governors, and with the European Union for a reason. —And you blame Israel that?
Can you can an Arab Country that supports Iran's nuclear development?
Iran, and only Iran, was in full compliance with the JCPOA and only started enriching uranium above the agreed upon level because Trump pulled the US out of the deal.
They also threatened the other signatories with sanctions if they did not support the Trump breaking it. Businesses were not permitted to honor their contracts with Iran.
Honor and Trump don't mix.
Nice dodge to a simple question!
You only have to pull up the IAEA.org and see just how false your comment is.
And just because Trump pulled out, all the rest of the Countries were still in, so stop the BS. Iran's has never stopped its ambition to have a nuclear weapon.
I wasn't dodging anything. My comment was about your first paragraph of bullshit. Your irrelevant question was just that, irrelevant.
And I get nothing when I pull up IAEA.org so why don't you tell me how my comment was "false".
The other countries didn't abide by the JCPOA any more than the US. And THEY would have been sanctioned if they did. And our own intelligence agencies say Iran isn't making a nuclear weapon regardless of what their "ambition" might be.
Then what was the point of enriching uranium far above what is necessary for peaceful purposes as reported by the IAEA? —-Please think before you post.
The Iran Deal to stop enriching uranium way above what was needed for peaceful purposes was unanimous with the UN Security Council, the IAEA Board of Governors, and with the European Union for a reason. —And you blame Israel got that?
Question was: "Can you can an Arab Country that supports Iran's nuclear development?'
Then what was the point of enriching uranium far above what is necessary for peaceful purposes as reported by the IAEA? —-Please think before you post.
Their stated point was to get the other countries that agreed to the deal to be in COMPLIANCE with the deal. Something ONLY Iran was doing.
The Iran Deal to stop enriching uranium way above what was needed for peaceful purposes was unanimous with the UN Security Council, the IAEA Board of Governors, and with the European Union for a reason.
What the fuck are you even talking about? The "Iran Deal" was the JCPOA. Iran WAS in compliance until the US dropped out and imposed the maximum pressure campaign sanctions.
—And you blame Israel got that?
I take it you meant "for" that. And I blamed the US (Trump) for dropping out of the JCPOA. There is no doubt he did it on Israel's behalf, or I should say Sheldon Adelson, and his millions, behalf.
Question was: "Can you can an Arab Country that supports Iran's nuclear development?'
And it's still irrelevant
The JCPOA can’t be “dropped out of.” It is a UN Security Council resolution and therefore binding on all member states.
Trump didn’t “drop out of” it. He put the US in continuing violation of it.
Not going to say why you banned my comment aye.
The “anarchist’s” hidden tyrant is revealed.
By all credible accounts, Iran never aimed to get nuclear weapons, but apparently that does not fit your narrative.
Correct. The fatwa remains intact; and like Shia'a and/or Islam or not, they take their honor and their edicts prettyyyyyyy frickin' serious.
Israel should be afraid of Iran, but not for having nuclear weapons. It is the fear of a thief who steals and is about to get caught. @warsrus:disqus
"Iran's has never stopped its ambition to have a nuclear weapon."
Non-stop "ambition to have a nuclear weapon"? Evidence"? Or that one more made up pee allegation?
You only have to pull up the IAEA website, IAEA.org
pee: "Iran's has never stopped its ambition to have a nuclear weapon…only…pull up the IAEA website"
Snap snap – wake up, ya murderous un-American dolt – The IAEA does not support your claim.
Yr claim: 'continuous ambition for nuclear weapon.'
1/ The IAEA report of higher-grade uranium is for the period after Trump broke the nuclear deal w/Iran.
2/ But through the 'deal period'? IAEA said Iran fully and openly complied w/nuclear program limits:
"Iran is complying with nuclear deal restrictions: IAEA report," Reuters 8/30/18
3/ Like almost all of Europe wanted, when Trump pulled out, Iran clearly wanted to keep the deal using its uranium refinement for energy purposes…
…just like Iran clearly wants a resumed deal now.
4/ Upshot? Iran's higher-grade uranium was not about bomb "ambition," but a bargaining chip re sanctions & security vs the menacing military "ambition" of Israel.
That is all you know and you base your judgement on such limited info?
It was Trump who broke the multilateral agreement without consulting the other European nations involved, which Iranians had honored down to the last comma. You don't know that?
"… unanimous with the UN Security Council, the IAEA Board of Governors, and with the European Union… "
You point to these authorities that the Tribe only utilizes when it benefits Israel and when it doesn't you throw humanity out of the window. That's how you can rationalize and support a genocide. @disqus_WXsl4CCjPi:disqus@warsrus:disqus@unclesapien:disqus@renatelittlejohn:disqus@existentialdread:disqus
Saudi Arabia with a GDP of $786.5B ranked the 18th largest economy in the world, while Israel ranked 34th with $370.6B.
Every here of the Arab oil lobby?
Kermit the Frog says Jim Henson can write this week's show.
So nothing's changed, America and Israel are still daring each other to attack Iran. Neither is willing to stomach Iran's retaliation.
Why the obsession with Iran? Iran does not even have a border with Israel. Are they really a threat to Israel?
Iran is not a threat to Israel or the USA, but both nuclear powers threaten Iran going back nearly a century, when the CIA and MI6 put the brutal Shah on the throne in Teheran, in 1953.
I think this is a point where the American MIC touches base with the Israeli colonial project. They fear that Iran represents a popular, competent, technocratic form of Islamism which is thus a threat to Israel and to Western hegemony. The likelihood of this is overblown, however Iran has clearly demonstrated the ability to build missiles and drones and to support militants opposed to the West.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/04/10/745891/Civilians-killed-US-airstrikes-Yemen
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/04/10/745900/Israeli-aircrewmen-demand-end-Gaza-genocide
Good news, Donna.
They deserve much respect knowing how hopeless, and useless it is, but they stood up to be counted. Kudos to the men and women who signed.
“Oh Holy Night! The stars are brightly shinning!….!….!”
Donna, it looks more like fire crackers. But maybe, some day we can see the stars again, hope is eternal. I am on your side too.
We are still in the early Dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
You might be interested: https://news.wgcu.org/arts-and-culture/2025-03-28/ted-neeley-brings-jesus-christ-superstar-farewell-tour-to-alliance-for-the-arts-march-31
im trying to get him to come to chicago so my sons and i can see it…Much of this is on you-tube and its something i play just about every day now…
It is a great play and movie, however, the West Bank is the biblical birthplace of David, Solomon, Jesus, John the Baptist, and other Jewish Prophets.
Question: Can you name a time in history when Jews were forbidden to settle in the West Bank?
Question: The periodic removal of Jews from Gaza goes back at least to the Romans in 61 CE, followed much later by the Crusaders, Napoleon, the Ottoman Turks, the British and the contemporary Egyptians, and more recently Jews removed themselves from Gaza in 2005 and it appeased no one.
Within a few weeks of every last Jew removing themselves from Gaza, Hamas rockets rained down on Israel. Lesson learned! However, Jews definitely lived in Gaza throughout the centuries, with a stronger presence in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. How many live there now?
That kind of religion is BS. Palestinians, by all accounts lived for centuries in Gaza, a part of Palestine like the WB.
Yes, from a number of nations including Jews. How many live there now? Please do not dodge the question for a second time.
Perfect example of US speaking with a forked tongue about bombing women and children;
“Israel will obviously be very much involved in that — it’ll be the leader of that. But nobody leads us. We do what we want to do,” he added.
https://www.thecapitoltheatre.com/blog/detail/international-day-of-peace-20-songs-about-peace
batshit crazy
Lead by example then.. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8a950d2e667c2c4f6b9dc041404926a62ae10f38a868d0ac53d5ca8b1a57af2b.jpg
THe hiroshima bombing was justified
BS. Murdering women children, 7 americans is never ‘justified’ and it was by any and every definition act of TERRORISM. Might want to do some research on the subject before you make false statements of nefariousness…
Just showing his true colors.
WHO SAYS, YOU?
What else would have been done, professor?
The Americans could take their as*ses home and do a major house- cleaning. I could make a list of what needs to be done, starting with health and education, and shelter and a decent infrastructure and so much more.
That would be the real way to MAGA. Not what the maniac does, he breaks everything in sight and lets others pick up the pieces. And there is the big job to put his idiotic signature on half a page of another EO, his way to govern.
Let me tell you, we have the ugliest, rundown and dirty cities on earth.
Oh I know I have been to america!
It is quite decrepit I am surprised you guys are ok
Thats why Europe is better
Bullshit. And fuck you while we're at it.
So whats the replacement, professor?
I don't understand your question.
"THe hiroshima bombing was justified."
There was a time the US said slavery was "justified" – now it's a crime.
There was a time the US said its "Indian policies" were "justified" – now they would be a crime.
From the the start, some Americans have brayed or sanctimoniously murmured that Hiroshima was "justified" – and no doubt plenty of Israelis and USers would call nuclear bombing Gaza "justified"…
…but mass murdering civilians like that would be a war crime today – as would Hiroshima:
"Why the atomic bombing of Hiroshima would be illegal today
"The archival record makes clear that killing large numbers of civilians was the primary purpose of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. The attack would be illegal today for violating three major requirements of the Geneva Conventions: the principles of distinction, proportionality, and precaution"
https://fsi.stanford.edu/news/why-atomic-bombing-hiroshima-would-be-illegal-today
The biggest bully in the world today as they support a genocide by their lil' buddy {who by the way refuses to sign the iea, and has nukes }do not have the right to decide who can and cannot have nukes…
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna5092097
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2004-05/vanunu-released-prison
https://rightlivelihood.org/the-change-makers/find-a-laureate/mordechai-vanunu/
My biggest regret was not meeting this man 15 years( we were not allowed anyway) when i was in Jerusalem as a member of CPT for two weeks…He was only 3 blocks away from our hostel…
https://vfpgoldenruleproject.org/
https://www.nobelpeacecenter.org/en/news/behind-the-peace-symbol
Its all about banning NUKES…
[nukes 4 no 1]
Make up your mind… Which one…! Who Leads Who…!
Trump is an OXYMORON.
"“Israel will obviously be very much involved…But nobody leads us. We do what we want to do."
Thank U Mister President for making clear to future would-be terrorists who to revenge target.
The Pentagon must be tickled pink since this has always been part of the plan.
General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned – Seven Countries In Five Years
"This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"
https://youtu.be/FNt7s_Wed_4
The impression I'm getting is the Pentagon is separate from the NeoCon Establishment and contains many military with a critical view of what's been happening over the last three decades. Clark here appears to refer to developments in the 90's right after the collapse of the Soviet Union, involving people like Dick Cheney, with the development of the PNAC (project for a new American century) and the plan to take out the countries listed. Today we have ex-military talking heads such as MacGregor, Wilkerson, and Davis who do not see the Pentagon as NeoCon. They suggest a modicum of military sanity is still operative.
My impression is, they see sycophants in the Pentagon, not honorable competent officers.
Yes. Too many of those, the armchair generals. But at times reference to "the pentagon" seems to refer to disagreement with mainline neocon objectives, such as taking down Iran.
I can read you have knowledge just mentioning PNAC. What we have had is a single war party for anyone informed. Nice to meet you Heteo!
As planned long ago:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e2e9aadd6cef750a63fc71bda4b80464f339d3559a7ac1eff586202aaa0d50e0.png
Pollack et al. – Which path to Persia?
Analysis Paper june 2009
Saban Centre / Brookings Institution
This kind of incoherence suggests why Trump fails at negotiating then blames others.
And why he is unfit for the office.
Trump never negotiates. Trump gives the other side an ultimatum and if they don't agree with it he attacks, saying they failed to negotiate.
This certainly applies to the collapsed BS of the "ceasefire" over Ukraine with Russia. The 'friendly exchange" via Witkoff was more than likely at the level of ultimatum for Trump and his "do what I say" mentality.
"The 'friendly exchange" via Witkoff was more than likely at the level of ultimatum for Trump and his 'do what I say' mentality."
Trump hypnotized Witkoff. I have proof:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/28e11b2e218fa12cbd02e96e399af62f0ef497a44fbe8b8752d547e976eb9803.png photo caption: 'You are getting obedient…v-e-r-r-y obedient…or-r-r el-l-l-se…'
April 9, 2025 Here we go again – $1 trillion for US 'defense'
The move can only exacerbate America's debt crisis, particularly after it reached $35 trillion last year and is expected to go over $40 trillion next year.
https://infobrics.org/post/43885
https://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/us-pentagon-war.jpeg
The Trump gang is a bunch of dangerous maniacs, a danger to all of us.
Frankly both sides are giving energy to Trump. He does not care if it is positive or negative energy. He takes it and runs wild with it, truly believing that he is the savior of the planet by killing a lot of people.
The other side is invisible, some voices are beginning to come out, like Bernie, better late than never.
So true.
It’s a novel definition of “America First”, I must say …
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If the Apartheid State of Israel wants to do something so f**king stupid as attack the Islamic Republic of Iran, they can do that on their own.
If you can't or won't do something on your own, you probably should not do that thing.
It seems Trump want to downplay US role on potential joined attack on Iran…!
https://www.codepink.org/earthday2025
Apr 8, 2025 Trump Announces DIRECT Talks With Iran!
During a recent White House appearance with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, President Donald Trump announced that the US and Iran will hold "direct talks" over a possible nuclear deal on Saturday.
https://youtu.be/Bj4KBc1wOJs?si=36UJYy0297oGGrtR
They will set demands Iran can't accept and they can say, see we tried diplomacy and the Iranians said no. They don't want peace.
He has done no such a thing as of yet. I am watching. He wrote the book on the art of the deal.
The demands that have been floating about certainly will be unacceptable to Iran. And Netanyahu just getting done snuggling up with Trump doesn't give one the feeling Iran will be offered anything other than a take it or else deal.
It is way too early and talks have not even happened yet. I assume nothing ever.
Tony Schwartz wrote the book. Trump just let his brand be put on it.
The Israelis are experienced and willing to tutor him.
If he wrote the book it must be boring, I may be wrong, I did not read it. The guy is Mr. Ignoramus , does he know the difference between extortion and a deal?
For each their own. The German people who listened to Hiltler were wrong as well. They did not read or listen to him either. I know how that turned out! I even bought and read the book myself in the early 90’s.
There was no internet the Nazis had to deal with. Now it is possible to ACCESS different opinions around the globe.
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History is quite amazing. Current reality is baffling.
Excerpts from Britannica
"Balfour Declaration, statement of British support for “the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people.” It was made in a letter dated November 2, 1917, from Arthur James Balfour, the British foreign secretary, to Lionel Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild (of Tring), a leader of the Anglo-Jewish community."
"The Balfour Declaration, issued through the continued efforts of Chaim Weizmann and Nahum Sokolow, Zionist leaders in London, fell short of the expectations of the Zionists, who had asked for the reconstitution of Palestine as “the” Jewish national home. The declaration specifically stipulated that “nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine.” The document, however, said nothing of the political or national rights of these communities and did not refer to them by name. Nevertheless, the declaration aroused enthusiastic hopes among Zionists and seemed the fulfillment of the aims of the World Zionist Organization (see Zionism)."
Note:
Then in 1948 the UN is created and the US has been handed the reigns once the state of Israel is created.
Palestinians, out!
Fast forward to present, Israeli PM Benjamin Mileikowsky, son of Benzion Mileikowsky (from Poland):
– calling the shots for Iran to blow up it's nuclear power
– still committing genocide unchecked in Gaza
– walks into Syria and holds territory for an 'unlimited time'
A loyal and willing proxy of the US/UK Empire, now firmly rooted in the ME, ready to carry out orders from his master.
Trump's fiasco with talks on ending the Ukraine War is not encouraging given the complexity of upcoming meetings with Iran this Saturday. Essential demands to Iran—no nuclear program; demilitarize; no support to resistance in the region—will be unacceptable. But the Israel leading an assault comment may mean Trump intends a US support role only, no active bombing program–“We do what we want” as warning to Netanyahu as Trump tries to parry the Lobby's influence. So to using his buddy Witkoff instead of Rubio to do the talking.