Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s former commander-in-chief who now serves as the Ukrainian ambassador to the UK, has said the US is “destroying” the “world order” in comments critical of the Trump administration’s approach toward the war.
Speaking at a conference hosted by the Chatham House think tank, Zaluzhny said the actions of the US under President Trump have called into question “the unity of the whole Western world.”
“We see that it is not just the axis of evil and Russia trying to revise the world order, but the US is finally destroying this order,” the former military commander said.
Zaluzhny added that the Trump administration’s diplomacy with Russia was a sign that the US was taking “steps towards the Kremlin, trying to meet them halfway.”
Zaluzhny’s comments came after the US paused military aid and intelligence sharing to Ukraine, which he said was “a huge challenge for the entire world.”
In recent days, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has been taking a conciliatory tone toward the Trump administration to unfreeze US support, and according to POLITICO, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry is distancing itself from Zaluzhny’s remarks, saying it was just his personal opinion.
Zaluzhny clashed with Zelensky during his time in charge of the war effort and has long been rumored to be a potential candidate if Ukraine holds presidential elections.
A poll conducted in 2024 found that Zelensky would lose to Zaluzhny if an election were held at that time. According to the survey, 41% favored Zaluzhny in a first-round election, while only 23.7% would vote for Zelensky.
Zelensky has come under criticism from President Trump for the lack of elections in Ukraine, as the Ukrainian leader has remained in power beyond his term, which expired in May 2024. US officials have said that the Trump administration wants elections in Ukraine as part of a potential peace deal.
Ukrainian officials have justified not holding an election by pointing to Ukraine’s constitution, which prohibits elections during martial law. Martial law was first declared when Russia invaded and has been extended since.
However, Zelensky made it clear at one point that he could hold a vote if he wanted to, suggesting that it could happen if the US and other Western countries paid for it. But the Biden administration did not put any pressure on Zelensky to hold an election and helped justify the decision.
Claude Malhuret's galvanizing speech in the French General Assembly has gone viral around the world.
How dare the relevant parties compromise, I guess..?
Trump is trying to destroy the new world order. I support that.
The so-called unity of the western world really was the USA being used by the other nations.
Ukraine has nearly sparked WW3, with its neutrality violations, shelling of Russian regions, and so on. The entire power structure of Ukraine must be removed, for the good of the world.
Ukraine is supposed to be “nationalist,” but we’re going to discover the far right in Ukraine is fake.
A nationalist would want peace and a higher birth rate, larger middle class.
Only if it’s some new kind of nationalist. Historical and existing nationalism revel in war.
I don't think so. The American government is not adapting to multipolarity, which is the rising world order, the way the world is organized organically. It is trying to reestablish American dominance after hitting this snag in the road by miscalculating the chances of success they would have dismantling Russia.
It could be the US is trying to buy time, attempt to reindustrialize and engage in an arms race with Russia, delegating some of it to their willing European puppets (which is unreservedly and entirely on them) or it could also be that instead of just Ukraine there has been a decision, of which Sturmer and Micron having been given their marching orders shortly before the Zelensky show, to use the entirety of Europe as a proxy against Russia, while the US is pivoting to war with China.
Or it could be Trump really is the morally superior peace-striving infallible genius who just disguises himself deliberately as this mentally stunted toddler for reasons that is beyond normal human understanding.
Orwellian (neocon) world order is falling apart not because U.S. is destroying it but because it can't compete against the common sense world order.
US wants to end war and will meet its opponent halfway? Shocking strategy! I thought it was better to pretend you could win on battlefield and watch hundreds of thousands more be maimed or killed.
GENERAL TO GENERAL
DEC 01, 2023
A potential peace is being negotiated in Ukraine by military leaders
Everyone in Europe is talking about this”—the peace talks—an American businessman who spent years dealing with high-level Ukrainian diplomatic and military issues in the government told me earlier this week. “But there are lots of questions between a ceasefire and a settlement.” The veteran journalist Anataol Lieven wrote this week that the battlefield situation in Ukraine and thus “a ceasefire and negotiations for a peace settlement are becoming more and more necessary for Ukraine.” He said that it was “exceptionally difficult” for the Ukrainian government headed by Volodymyr Zelensky to agree to talks, given its repeated refusal to negotiate with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
The driving force of those talks has not been Washington or Moscow, or Biden or Putin, but instead the two high-ranking generals who run the war, Valery Gerasimov of Russia and Valery Zaluzhny of Ukraine.
https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/general-to-general
Zaluzhny was more popular with Ukrainians than Zelensky. He would’ve beaten him in an election.
Internal Polling Suggests Zelensky Would Lose Election To Gen. Zaluzhny
Internal polling in Ukraine shows that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky could lose a presidential election if he faces off with Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, the Ukrainian commander-in-chief, The Economist reported on Tuesday.
So far, Zaluzhny has not expressed an interest in entering the political fray, but he’s been rumored to be a potential candidate. It’s also been reported that he’s been at odds with Zelensky, a spat that spilled into the public after Zaluzhny called the war against Russia a stalemate and said there would likely be no “deep and beautiful breakthrough.”…
polling shows the Ukrainian public trusts Zaluzhny more than the country’s political leadership, as Kyiv has been rocked by corruption scandals.
The Economist report reads: “The figures, which date from mid-November, show trust in the president has fallen to a net +32%, less than half that of the still revered General Mr Zaluzhny (+70%). Ukraine’s spychief, Kyrylo Budanov, also has better ratings than the president (+45%).”
https://news.antiwar.com/2023/11/29/internal-polling-suggests-zelensky-would-lose-election-to-gen-zaluzhny/
Within a month, Nuland showed up
Jan 2024:
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/u-s-deputy-secretary-of-state-victoria-nuland-1706696948.html
Ukraine replaces army chief in shakeup at difficult time in war with Russia
By Tom Balmforth and Olena Harmash
February 8, 2024
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-zelenskiy-says-time-has-come-changes-top-military-2024-02-08/
By March 2024, he’s shipped off to the UK as diplomat.
Now, he’s a puppet?
Zaluzhny is even more fascist than Zelensky AFAIK. Also he was demoted after many defeats, including the catastrophic fiasco of the US-planned and directed "great Ukrainian offensive" of 2023, which managed to take a couple of defenseless villages before being smashed at the Surovikin line.
From what I read on telegram and x at the time, he didn’t want to be pushed into the catastrophic events. He was sensitive to the fact that recruits were not trained when sent to the front.
I don’t agree with his ideology, but he did show humanity toward his own men.
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The Bild publication writes that Zaluzhny wanted to withdraw troops from Avdiivka a few weeks ago, but Zelensky refused him this and on December 30 he personally went to the city to the front line to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters.
So all the coffins that arrived from near Avdeevka to Ukraine since December 30 are solely on the conscience of Zelensky and his passion for narcissism.
There were more comments like this that I did not save. This might be a Russian Ukrainian? and yet has respect for Zaluzhny
Valerii Zaluzhnyi's end of office: February 8, 2024
Victoria Nuland's end of office: March 22, 2024
Not sure what happenerd exactly but those two are too related via Gladio, fascists, extreme corruption and the Ukraine War itself.
Anyway, I followed his decisions almost in real time at the war channels and he's a war criminal against his own troops. I find (contrary to most opinions) that Sirskyi, loyal to Zelensky, is probably a much more humane commander (and not necessarily worse as top general).
You mention Avdievka but do you know who evacuated the city? Sirskyi, when? Nine days after Zaluzhnyi was removed from office.
Anyway, none of them will make Ukraine great again: they all work for NATO ultimately.
You may have followed closer. Thanks for the correction. Maybe that’s why the tweet was subsequently deleted.
I do believe the Sy Hersh reporting though.
Just an opinion: I see Zaluzhny as more fascist and maybe more the US man, while Zelensky-Sirskyi seem to be more “liberal” and maybe closer to Europe or Britain (many say that he was groomed by the MI6). But I don’t have super-strong evidence and many will disagree with me anyhow.
Zelensky is an active fascist. And imagine thinking Israel is a template for the future of your country:
Zelenskyy says wants Ukraine to become a ‘big Israel’
Zelenskyy stressed that his vision for Ukraine’s post-conflict future included having armed forces in “all institutions, supermarkets, cinemas, there will be people with weapons”….
Zelenskyy, has on several occasions stressed the importance of maintaining close ties with Israel, which he hailed as a model for Ukraine.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/5/zelenskyy-says-wants-ukraine-to-become-a-big-israel
Half of Ukrainians are fascists, especially the younger ones, after a whole decade of extremist brainwashing. I remember this young "Ukrainian refugee" I met at a course on renewable energies who, in spite of having spent all her summers in my very antifascist Basque Country (as "Chernobyl child", decades long de-irradiation program), proclaimed herself "a fascist". So it makes total sense, sadly enough, what Zelensky said about making Ukraine a "big Israel", where nearly everybody is a brainless Zionazi. However I supposse he was thinking rather into being subsidized as Israel is, what doesn't compute for long in the West, where Ukraine is thought of as a semi-colony, following the templates of WW1 Hetmanate or WW2 Reichkomissariat.
Half of Ukrainians are fascists, especially the younger ones, after a whole decade of extremist brainwashing. I remember this young “Ukrainian refugee” I met at a course on renewable energies who, in spite of having spent all her summers in my very antifascist Basque Country (as “Chernobyl child”, decades long de-irradiation program), proclaimed herself “a fascist”. So it makes total sense, sadly enough, what Zelensky said about making Ukraine a “big Israel”, where nearly everybody is a brainless Zionazi. However I supposse he was thinking rather into being subsidized as Israel is, what doesn’t compute for long in the West, where Ukraine is thought of as a semi-colony, following the templates of WW1 Hetmanate or WW2 Reichkomissariat.
In Spanish there is this dismissive concept of “morenazi” (blend of moreno = Moor-like, i.e. black-haired or dark-skinned, and nazi), as of someone who is ridiculously nazi in a very out-of-place racialization. Well, Ukrainian nazis are exactly that even if they may be blond, and that’s just because they are Slavic, and historical Nazism was first anti-communist, second anti-Slavic and only thirdly anti-Jewish. I read recently that the III Reich killed many more Slavs than Jews (although both categories often overlap).
The Zionists cooperated with Nazis.
Zionism as a Fascist Ideology and Movement: Zionist Relations with Nazi Germany
by Faris Yahya Glubb
https://liberatedtexts.com/reviews/zionism-as-a-fascist-ideology-zionist-relations-with-nazi-germany-by-faris-glubb/
Free Book:
https://michaelharrison.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Zionist-Relations-with-Nazi-Germany-Faris-Yahya-PSR-Beirut-1978.pdf
I know.
A reference I found of Zaluzhny's adherence to fascism: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/05/jnwx-j05.html
I think Nuland cooked up the terror attack in Russia, but may have stepped out of chain of command in doing it, stepping on toes. I have no proof. But it happened after the “ Putin will get “nice surprises” quote.
Not long after, she was put out to pasture.
The Daesh terrorist attack? Makes sense. Not sure how the dates fit but the blunder seems too crude a provocation for Blinken to tolerate it. Was Zaluzhny involved? I would think that’s more of a Budanov thing to do but Budanov remains in office.
"Zaluzhny is even more fascist than Zelensky" – that is true. But he was demoted not because he is a bad commander-in-chief (Syrsky is even worse) but because he often disagreed with Zelensky and with NATO generals. The great Ukrainian offensive of summer 2023 was planned by Americans and Brits.
That seems to be true, it's also true that he's a nazi, while VZ and Syrskyi are not (even if they're accomplices). Remember that all the problems Ukraine has are derived from the promotion of nazis and the correlate destruction of democracy and human rights.
Ref. Zaluzhny's celebration of Stepan Bandera: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/05/jnwx-j05.html
Yes, Zaluzhny is neo-Nazi. Zelensky is playing the role for money and power. Syrsky is Russian born in Russia; he can't be accepted by neo-Nazis as one of them. Besides he is more ruthless to Ukrainian soldiers than Zaluzhny and even less successful. His only value that he does never contradict Zelensky.
Still there is a possibility, if Zaluzhny becomes the head of Ukrainian state, he may have a deal with Russians. It looks, unlike Zelensky, he does care about Ukraine.
Since Syrsky is in charge I don’t see any more the older reports of green recruits being dumped into the frontline with almost no weapons nor training, nor even reports of nazi death squads threatening, killing or even stealing them. I may be wrong (absence of evidence is not evidence of absence) but my impression is that Syrksy is more humane, less extremely evil than Zaluzhny. I also don’t see Syrsky as worse commander: he pulled the Kursk incursion quite well (except for the civilian massacres) and he’s now counter-attacking the overextended Russian positions in Toresk. Of course he’s bound to lose but that’s a systemic issue that Ukraine has when fighting a much more powerful foe with much higher morale (largely because they got the moral high ground, which is half way to victory IMO and a major reason why the US Empire loses nearly all conflicts sooner or later), it would happen with any commander.
In any case Zaluzhny’s fascism makes him an hard choice for peace with Russia, because one of the Russian demands is “denazification”. I find hard to imagine how a neutral and semi-demilitarized Ukraine could be led by semi-colonial fascist leaders like Zaluzhny or Bodunov. That kind of people must be utterly purged if peace is to happen.
Most Zaluzhny and Zelensky disagreements were about the worst meatgrinders. Like Bakhmut, where Zaluzhny insisted on retreat before it is too late. Zelensky strategy is never to retreat. Like what now happens at Sudzha (Kursk oblast) where Ukrainian forces are almost surrounded and practically cut of logistics but instead of retreating, Zelensky and Syrsky are pushing there more and more fresh troops just for PR reasons. It looks, that's the reason why Zaluzhny's rating is double as high as one of Zelensky. It is not because he is neo-Nazi but because he is less wasteful with human lives.
Some Ukrainian neo-Nazis are okay about denazification though it maybe looks strange from outside. When they see how disastrous it is for Ukraine they can even change sides. Kiva, for example. Because of disagreements with pro-American Kiev regime, he escaped to Russia.
Nazis are OK about denazification? Well… something doesn’t add up, sorry.
Main feature of Kiev regime official Nazism is Russophobia. Russophobia is promoted mostly by Anglo-Saxons with a practical goal for using Ukraine as a pawn in a proxy war against Russia. However, even now, when there is a war, in general Ukraine is no more Russophobic than Poland or England. Though Ukrainian Nazis all for fascist methods, still not all of them agree with the rabid Russophobia which is forced upon them by American sponsors.
By denazification, Putin means first of all the respect for basic human rights for Russian speakers and for Orthodox Christians. It is acceptable for many Ukrainian neo-Nazis. They are not so ferociously anti-Christian. Many of them are okay with Russian language.
I think that “denazification” is mostly about eliminating the NATO/Gladio/CIA deep state. “Nazi” is here code for “Gladio”, which is not anyhow too unrealistic. It’s not so much about ideology or even ethnic prejudices (that also matters surely) but about Ukraine not being anymore NATO’s plaything but a truly neutral buffer state.
NATO trained militants, and, of course, they were financed from The West. Still nationalistic ideas were strong in Ukraine after the collapse of USSR anyway. Different groups had different ideas. Ukrainian neo-Nazism was based upon Aryan race mythology. Right Sector united different far-right organizations. Some of them were mostly Russian speakers. Canadian Ukrainian grandsons of German Nazi collaborators also came and contributed. By 2022 many of members of Right Sector were disappointed with pro-American leadership. One of leaders of Right Sector Kiva created his own party which was against conflict with Russia. On the other hand, some far-right extremists came from Russia to support Kiev regime. U.S. of course contributed a lot but still there was also a certain ground for a civil war.
By the way, not only in Russia some people (including Putin) believe that Ukrainians and Russians are one ethnic group. Many Ukrainians, and even some Ukrainian neo-Nazis also believe the same.
Svovoda was the only (barely whitwashed) party to get any seats in the 2012 election and their seats only in the far west of Ukraine (Galitzia). Their overall results were 10%.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Ukrainian_parliamentary_election
Pravy Sektor was then extraparlamentary, don’t make up stuff, don’t rewrite history!
It looks you live with illusion that Ukraine is a democracy. Yarosh the leader of Right Sector became the advisor of Chief of General Staff. Biletsky created Azov battalion which later became several thousand strong elite unit similar to German SS and was integrated in Ukrainian army. Some of Right Sector militants got in conflict with new authorities. Muzychko (one of the leaders) was killed few weeks after the coup by militants of Avakov.
Party Svoboda also participated in the coup but it was not so militarized organization as Right Sector and less influential after the coup.
I was talking 2012: it was democratic enough then, so much that Yanukovich won and the Communist Party made a good showing (even if they were for a while ceding voters to the Party of Regions).
After 2014 coup, Ukraine is not democratic anymore, of course!
"Communist Party made a good showing (even if they were for a while ceding voters to Party of Regions)" – communists also ceded voters to Batkivshchyna and UDAR.
Svoboda was supported by Yanukovich or, rather, by his sponsor Akhmetov. They did it not only because they wanted please Americans. It was important for Akhmetov and other Ukrainian oligarchs to distance themselves from Russia. The same story was in Belorussia and Kazakhstan. Post-Soviet elites remembered that on referendum in March 1991 their people voted against separation from Russia. Lukashenko encouraged nationalists for the same reason until they nearly toppled him. Hardly Svoboda could get more than 5% without help from Ukrainian authorities. Right Sector was created in 2013.
Batkivshchyna lost those elections after four years in power. I haven’t done a complete analysis myself but my credible sources back in 2014 told me that.
I take notice of your claims but I don’t believe them. Svovoda was a darling of Western agitators (CIA, Gladio, etc.) in any case. NATO is built largely on German imperialist concepts (Östpolitiks) and on German recycled nazis.
Yatsenyuk from Batkivshchina became Prime Minister. Americans made him Prime Minister after the coup 2014.
He made himself Prime Minister by voting instead of the opposition, kept outside of the bulding by the nazis. There is photo-evidence, plenty of it: https://forwhatwearetheywillbe.blogspot.com/2014/03/who-is-who-in-ukraines-putschist.html
Take a look, those are my own blog notes from those days, they list all the relevant positions in the post-Maidan NATO regime.
Yatsenyuk was appointed Prime Minister by Nuland. Europeans, who also participated in the coup, wanted Klichko as Prime Minister. There was a certain disagreement between Americans and Europeans. Remember "F… EU". It was about that.
For Americans, such people as Yatsenyuk and Turchinov were more preferable than ideological neo-Nazis who have their own ideas and their own political orientation. Yatsenyuk, the same as Zelensky, was ready to do for money whatever is ordered.
Americans used Right Sector only as militants for the coup. They didn't wanted such people as Yarosh, Biletsky or Tyagnybok to govern Ukraine.
Ukraine state media issued a threat to assassinate President Trump.
Let's see how that plays out in the next week.
This is why we need the 240,000 criminally insane Ukrainians out of America.
State media in Kiev is Vadym Karpiak (Zelensky's talking head) calling for the assassination of President Trump.
"…said the US is “destroying” the “world order”…"
Welcome to Planet Earth after 2001. Where the f**k has this guy been living ????
The new British asset who will return to Ukraine and be wholeheartedly elected as a new Ukrainian president. Simple — predominantly agricultural – folk never learn. Trust the Western den of snakes over and over,
As Trump has been outhustled at home — no danger in that. Poland and neighbors are talking of PREEMPTIVELY attacking Russia. Insanity rules. Britain’s financisl system is in crisis and needs war. Only by using other nations as cannon fodder. They are salivating for Poland to “volunteer”. Every European nation that ended up with a ruling elite that is of scforeign ancestry — ended up serving globalist interests. Angela Merkel — adored — has brough Germany bit by bit undet EU bureaucratic control. When she left it became obvious. A womwn with no German ancestry, parents, grandparents aand gratgrandparents all Polish. In Poland, President is ethnically Getman, foreign minister and his American wife — hard line Zionists. Glibalism has permeated EU structures, to the point that population is scratching heads — as decisions made are entirely against their national interests!
Europe — with few exceptions — is currently ruled by elites that are either unelected, or have manipulated elections or — as in Germany, the winning parties are elected by westetn part of Germany, but the entire Eastern portion of the country (former Prussia) for AFD, a party calling for ending war in Ukraine and stopping support for Ukraine! Mindlessly — this party has been declared “ultra right”. Being against the war today — gets you into extreme right column.
The madness in Germany — massive credit expansion in infrastructure and defense spending. This is a massive deficit generation. Biden started the same — and there was no resukt in physical output of goods. German Chancellor’s investment program will be inflationary — but as former Backrock executive he knows one tool — credit expansion to reflate banking system and convert civikian production into military. But you need imports.
As provokative as it is to Russia — there is not a great chance of acrually suceeding in becoming a real threat. Germany — as most Western countries – have been trained by vulture capital well. Hiring mostly very efficient, hard working emoloyees that are not innovators. Scoentists are more often than not told what results are exected before they actually start tge work.
Since no nedia will ever throw the light as tge corporate sharp elbows culture of “high achievers”, and nobody will EVER look at the AI failures at the lowest level – customer support. Tragi-comical mistakes end up wasting days of customer time, frustrating their efforts to keep up with the ever increasing bureaucracy of life.
We have all same ailments — but the confidence level all around is frightening. No shadow of doubt, despite the mounting evidence to the contrary. It is the state of science snd technology that seems to be wrapped up in myth.
I know, it was so cool being a corrupt little money-laundry republic.
NO, America is done with criminal Ukraine and the European Globalists.
NO military aid, no intelligence and targeting, and no more dweeb Zelensky in the White House.
Americans have come to HATE Zelensky and Ukrainians.
Let them eat dirt!
That is nice, but what Americans want or don't want, like or dislike is irrelevant. You will get what you're given and then pass time with useless bickering amongst yourself.
See how long Ukraine lasts now.
IF Europe wants to fund an endless war go right ahead.
King of the hill concept is a kids game played by humans since the cave days. No one stays up there forever and the longer you do the more despotic and corrupt you become and you will stumble and fall. Its inevitable.
https://sonar21.com/trumps-empty-threats-to-pressure-russia-falling-on-deaf-ears/
"Trump is signaling more bad news for Ukraine. He reportedly is considering pulling some 35,000 U.S. troops now based in Germany and redeploying them to Eastern Europe. According to the New York Post, militants holding a bridgehead in the Kursk region have found themselves under attack by a Russian counterattack. According to military analysts, Kyiv faces a choice: either retreat urgently or risk being surrounded. If Ukraine decides to retreat from Kursk, this would erase Kursk as a “negotiating trump card.” However, choosing to remain in place is the equivalent of a death sentence."
My advice to President Trump is not to deploy 35,000 US troops to Eastern Europe, whether that be Poland, Ukraine, or Romania.
You'll get your wish if you intend this to be the precursor to a nuclear exchange. I hope this news report is a vicious rumor.
As to Zelensky, I suggest his psychological mindset is to take as many innocents with him to the afterlife.
Do we blame him as much as we would Keir Starmer and MI6? The 'special relationship' may come to an abrupt, ignominious end.
Indeed as suggested in the article just a bit of performance art for the sake of internal Ukrainian politics. For any other audience such statements are just too plain ridiculous. Well maybe those idiots in at the EU are just about stupid enough to not quietly ignore the bullshit.
America HAS 500,000 Ukrainians in country. Fully 240,000 of these vermin are illegal. Many of these Ukrainians are foreign agents working for the Banderite fascist government of Zelensky.
Soon America will have to realize that there is an existential threat from Ukrainians in America.