The White House is considering ending all aid transfers, including weapons, to Ukraine after an Oval Office press conference turned into an argument between President Donald Trump, Vice President JD Vance, and Ukrainian President Zelensky.
According to The Washington Post, “The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to President Volodymyr Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process.”
If the aid is terminated, Ukraine would not receive billions of dollars in weapons from the US, including missiles and ammunition that was approved through the Presidential Drawdown Authority.
The New York Times reported that weapons deliveries to Ukraine have “slowed to a trickle” even before Friday’s heated exchange. However, Trump is now considering cutting off other support to Kiev.
“The president might decide to end even the indirect support being provided by the US,” the outlet explained. “Which includes other types of military financing, intelligence sharing, training for Ukrainian troops and pilots, and hosting a call center that manages international aid at a US military base in Germany.”
Following the White House clash between Trump, Vance, and Zelensky, NBC News reported the administration was also cutting non-military aid to Ukraine. Secretary of State Marco Rubio ended the Ukraine Energy Security Project, which provides Kiev with hundreds of millions of dollars to attempt to repair the country’s energy grid.
According to the outlet, other programs could be eliminated. “In addition to ending the Ukraine Energy Security Project, USAID is also dramatically downsizing its presence in Ukraine,” NBC News explained.
Kyle Anzalone is the opinion editor of Antiwar.com and news editor of the Libertarian Institute. He hosts The Kyle Anzalone Show and is co-host of Conflicts of Interest with Connor Freeman.
Trump Considers Ending All Aid
to Ukraine.Do this.
That is not going to happen. Israel announced today, the trump is fast tracking more weapons to Israel including bombs and D9 bull dozers. USA went from supporting the two state solution, to a solution based on purging Gaza of Palestinians. Last November, people in the USA had a choice. The chose the latter option.
If the vote actually meant this we'd have clarification on how Trump can continuously maintain he wants "the killing to stop" while supplying weaponry to Israel and throwing out a sadistic AI fantasy for "Trump Gaza." But it doesn't mean this. The voters were more heavily concerned about inflation, the border, and a leader who might challenge ordinary politics.
The voters knew what trump was about. They have spoken and for now the two state solution is history.
You seem to think who Americans voted for was based solely on Israel. I didn't vote for either Trump or Harris, but I live in an area that heavily favored Trump. I have a number of close friends that were Trump voters. None of them voted for Trump based on Israel. The ones I spoke to on US aid to Israel all opposed ANY aid to Israel.
The existence of the two states (which is a fact) and whether or not those two states arrive at a “solution” that preserves the existence of both (unlikely) isn’t up to American voters.
That depends on what happens in the next four years. So when the voters in America picked trump, they were also voting against the two state solution.
Americans can vote against the two-state solution all they like. Their votes won’t change the fact that the two states exist.
Depopulating Gaza and Israel annexing the West Bank will end the two state solution. That will change the fact that the two state exist. Is that trump goals? Hard to say.
It's hard fo ryou to say anything as we can see,
If the USA takes over Gaza, then it is a separate state. Try to pay attention.
Did Poland cease to exist from 1939-1945?
Palestine has had a government in exile before, and may again.
No doubt there will be an Israeli government in exile if things go the other way.
Not the same. WW2 was in full swing with allies determined to destroy Nazi Germany. A government in exile can only exists for a short time if the facts on the ground don't change.
Nonsense babbler, that was not a campaign issue
And they knew what Harris was about. You keep thinking there was a difference.
I do think there was a difference. Harris was for two state solution, trump wants to clear Gaza of the Palestinians. As you should know, I supported whatever Israel needed to do to get their people back. Once this is accomplished, I want Israel to leave Gaza and let it exists as own. But trump has a different idea.
Harris said she was for a two state solution. Big difference from actually doing anything about it. And it's way too late for a two state solution.
"And it's way too late for a two state solution." And what becomes of the Palestinians if they don't get their own nation? I disagree. I think Gaza should become its own nation.
“Nation” and “state” do not mean the same thing, although the latter inevitably tries to co-opt the former as identical to itself.
THANK you.
This distinction almost irritates me more than people wantonly conflating "lose" and "loose".
And what becomes of the Palestinians if they don't get their own nation?
They live as equals in a state yet to be named.
Last November, people in the USA had a choice.
Indeed. But instead of voting for someone who might actually try to end the slaughter, they voted for Trump or Harris.
Who is this "someone"? Has he a party or, at least, a team? Trump has Vance, Tulsi, Kennedy, Musk – respectable and influential people. Do you believe someone from the bottom of the heap can come and rule America?
I was talking about third party candidates.
Do you mean Jill Stein, Green-Rainbow Party?
Or someone like her?
There would have been a hell of lot of a better chance at "might" with her. It definitely wasn't happening with Trump or Harris.
I question the veracity of “choice”. No votes ever determined the Democratic Party candidate. This was an intraparty decree, with the approval of the donor class.
The actual candidate was an individual with gross cognitive decline that was actively covered up.
I agree. But she was on the ballot.
I absolutely detest the bullshit about “rescuing democracy” through a completely undemocratic process. Being on the ballot doesn’t make it a “choice”.
She ended up there through a soft coup.
Canadian here again. Our current Prime Minister has resigned, and under our parliamentary system, his party votes in a week or two on which of five party-chosen candidates replaces him as Prime Minister until the next election.
In the early 1990s, PM Brian Mulroney resigned (political scandals) and his party put forth Kim "Go For A Soda" Campbell to become a) Canada's first, tho un-elected, female Prime Minister and b) the Temporary PM at the helm of THE greatest loss of parliamentary seats in a Western country when the election to follow saw her party lose 154 of the 156 seats it held (out of 295 total, 148 for majority).
During COVID, the un-elected medical officer of the BC Ministry of Health, ran British Columbia while our Premier (thankfully, now deceased) ceded his elected responsibility.
So, hold our beer, America.
If the title of the author's article is correct, then the Rare Earth Deal exposes an orchestrated provocation by the neo-fascist autocrat Trump in cooperation with the autocrat Putin and their secret services, because fascists work like the mafia or other criminal syndicates.
Go write some more comic books, leftist noisemaker.
Are you capable of writing something other than third grade insults?
False.
More like he promised to send Miriam Adelson Zelensky's stash! And the weapons promised to Ukraine as well!
Hard to believe the GOP is supporting Russia. But they are. What is next, them supporting criminals against police? Oh wait they did.
You have your false accusations about the Left mixed up with your weird and unsupported assertions about the GOP.
The assertions about the GOP position is based on the actions of their leader and the lack of members of GOP complaining about it.
What's it to Consider…?!
Shouldn't matter if the US did stop all support. The UkroNazi Kiev sycophants would have us believe that Ukraine is winning on its own, with a fanciful admixture of grit, heart, determination, gott mit uns, and heroism.
Who needs US / NATO support when Kiev's not 110% dependent on it, amirit ?
This "fanciful mixture" includes the boldness of Zelensky, in challenging Trump at the dust-up/row, that peace diplomacy will be ineffective with Putin. Trump interpreted this attitude as contradicting him and concluded Z is not ready to cooperate with a peace mission. I doubt that this rupture can be repaired any time soon. Z's boldness and not knowing his place added to the insult of his disagreement with their plan and they responded like the schoolmaster with the uppity little kid. As this thing moves forward, a crucial problem is assessment of Putin (gangster/neo-Hitler/adult in the room/ploy for a new Trump scheme/whatever). But cutting support would seem to move things along more rapidly from here and the impetuous Trump (with his settle it all in a day fantasy) may go right ahead with it.
Trump doesn't know his place either: he thinks he or the USA are all powerful and they are not (Yemen demonstrated that better than anyone else).
Putin mostly just wants the same as Zelensky: security guarantees… but for Russia, maybe Trump can strike a deal with the Kremlin, which have plenty of strategic minerals to sell? That should be interesting to watch, as I've for some time argued that deep inside the USA and Russia roughly agree against European unity and against European interests, so such a hypothetical Washington-Moscow reapproachment should incite Europe to become more self-reliant, unified and powerful (although it's not clear we have the adequate leadership for such a progress anyhow).
I don't see Europe ever getting beyond – in the sense of getting back to – an economic union.
Just my opinion, but I believe that Brussels has been an unmitigated disaster.
The fifty US states share a common language and to a great extent, a common culture, augmented by variations brought by folks from other places. Europe seems to me to be saddled with over twenty separate cultures sharing a common currency.
So what exactly is the European point of view on Europe?
European point of view could be developed between Germany, France and Italy. Others, if they like, could join the club with already established rules. Then European union would be successful.
In reality, EU is established by American imperialists and globalists with EU bureaucracy subordinated to American oligarchy. EU mass media also is owned by American oligarchs. U.S. military presence in Germany makes it sure that Germany can't achieve the independence and freedom of choice. To make this EU even more subordinated to U.S. oligarchy, EU bureaucracy is filled from even more subordinated to U.S. states: Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and some other countries who are quite foreign to old European culture. As result of those manipulations, we got a pro-globalist corrupted EU bureaucracy. Such EU can't have a bright future. Actually, it is a failure.
The EU is an economic union and nobody wants to exit it, all the opposite. But it’s more than a mere economic union: it has a quasi-government in fact, it has common law and it is a free transit zone: I can move to Germany, Romania or Ireland freely any time I want, I can even vote in the local elections if resident, even run for mayor of, say, Paris if I fix my residence there. Language barrier is an obstacle, especially for older people, but Switzerland has four official languages and everybody speaks in English across the language barrier, much of the same happens in India or Nigeria, it’s not any absolute barrier.
“So what exactly is the European point of view on Europe?” – I can’t answer for every single EU citizen but my impression is that most are in favor of the EU (not necessarily this version but some sort of confederacy for sure). Some are more reluctant (but know it’s much colder outside the Union, Britain sets an example but so does Serbia, Turkey or even Russia, only peculiar countries like Norway can really afford to be out and better off, and even those are in close economic association anyhow), others want greater integration, some like myself want a socialist and not capitalist union, but a union anyhow, and many are just OK with the way it is (may dislike this or like that but it works for them in most aspects). Even Hungary, whose right wing pro-Putin and pro-Trump and pro-Israel perennial governement is always critical of almost every stand of the EU will not leave it by grade, Brexit will not be repeated, Britain is just very peculiar and snobbish.
2/3 of aid to Ukraine is European anyhow. Trump will probably only find out how inefficient US aid was to begin with. Maidan-Ukraine will suffer somewhat but most of the frontline activity is not really dependent on US aid anyhow.
Ending money will end the war, but the MIC and others who benefit from death and destruction will freak out. So, what will be the consequences of their freaking out?
Trump will help them to sell their products. Ukraine is not a great thing for them anyway. The videos with burning Abrams and Bradleys is not a good advertisement.
This means the end of the war in Russia's favor and its total conquest of Ukraine, possibly developing into a guerrilla war.
Shifting to Iran and on to China?
"Ending money will end the war," Yes it will end because Russia will take over Ukraine and that will end the war.
Russia has no interest in taking over Ukraine, never attempted to, it is not in their written plan. Try reading and understanding instead of babbling.
"never attempted to" Where you sleeping when Russia invaded Ukraine? You need to pay attention to what is happening world. Only a fool would think that Russia end game is not to bring Ukraine under it's control one way or another.
The proxy war was never any business of Wash. If the Europeans want to fight it out again and destroy their cities and peoples, let them. Americans did enough to save Europe from themselves twice and both times freedom and liberty were not the outcomes. Hitler and Stalin really were the big winners in both conflicts with both their peoples being the big losers, along with hundreds of thousands of Americans who died in the process.
It's the logical thing to do from Trump's PoV. However it will only result in the USA becoming isolated globally, what pretty much is what Trump seems to have wanted anyhow since he threated Greenland, Canada and Panama.
Now is when the concept "multipolar world" becomes real for real. It's totally different to what the USA has been used to for the last century or 8 decades, really. It's cold outside the pack.
If Trump makes peace with the Russians, I expect his next move will be some kind of accord involving the US, Russia, China, and India. If we can get there we may be able to enjoy a less violent future.
Actually, U.S. is not in a state of war with Russia. So, it is not about making peace. It is rather about the normalization of relations which automatically would reduce the risk of war between U.S. and Russia.
With China it is different. Trump and many others in America are afraid of prosperous and fast developing China. They believe the best what they can do is to try somehow to slow down Chinese development. First of all industrial development. So, the normalization of relations with China is not in Trump's agenda.
Sounds like a stupid plan.
If Trump doesn’t control Ukraine (and he doesn’t), the only thing he can offer to Russia is end of sanctions (and end of aid to Ukraine, which is only 1/3 of all aid, as Europe has been actually footing the bill primarily). You can’t make peace in a war you’re not technically part of.
I don’t think Trump’s problem is only with Ukraine or Europe: he’s not achieving much with Russia either and China is his proclaimed foe. India is not relevant. What we see is Trump and Putin trying to talk to each other… in totally different languages, and also Putin not wanting to talk with Ukraine or European powers but realizing that Trump has no control over these, at least not that much, so it’s like who am I talking to even?, what can they offer?, will I have to talk again with those pesky fork-tongued European chieftains? Even Lavrov is saying nonsense as of late. It’s funny because “the little green goblin” has set all in disarray and perplexity.
Still America is responsible for this frankenstein monster it created.
On the other hand, EU elite likes it so very much that they are ready to feed it themselves. It is more than just a corruption project.
Some time ago Scholz announced that now Germany is free from it's "Kollektivschuld". Of course, not everyone in Germany liked it, though the idea of revanche for the defeat in WW II always was alive. They love Kiev neo-Nazi regime because it is doing what they themselves would like to do but don't dare.
Mikhailovich: "They love Kiev neo-Nazi regime"
You are adopting and repeating Russian and autocratic President Putin's absurd, abstruse propaganda!
Are you calling all European states, e.g. Hungary, Austria, Italy, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, etc. with neo-fascist parties and their immense electoral successes neo-fascist regimes?
https://www.dw.com/en/where-do-europes-far-right-parties-differ/video-71506085
https://www.ibanet.org/The-year-of-elections-The-rise-of-Europes-far-right
https://unherd.com/newsroom/the-new-populist-map-of-europe/
https://www.politico.eu/article/mapped-europe-far-right-government-power-politics-eu-italy-finalnd-hungary-parties-elections-polling/
https://www.statista.com/chart/6852/seats-held-by-far-right-parties-in-europe/
https://carnegieendowment.org/features/radical-right-europe-foreign-policy?lang=en
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36130006 Europe and right-wing nationalism: A country-by-country guide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_nationalist_parties_in_Europe
https://ecfr.eu/publication/getting-the-european-parliament-election-right/
https://www.populismstudies.org/countries/?country=all
My opinion is based on observation of Ukrainian realities. I have no problems with Ukrainian and Russian languages. There are plenty of videos from Ukraine and plenty of Ukrainian bloggers. Millions of Ukrainians are living in EU countries. If you like, you can also talk to them.
You subtly classify me as a monster according to your perceptions of Ukraine, don't you?
It looks you have problems with understanding simple things.
Frankenstein monster is Kiev neo-Nazi regime which was created and installed in 2014 by CIA and other influential western organizations.
You lie about political elections in Ukraine and spread nothing but inflammatory beer-table chatter against Ukraine in your destructive, propagandistic comments.
Are you really that stupid or just a neo-Nazi propagandist?
You are spreading neo-fascist propaganda, because fascists always adorn themselves with false, blinding propaganda.
Supposing you have your own opinion about Ukraine. In such case, can you explain what was wrong with Minsk Agreements? Why Kiev regime rejected it?
For you personally, I am repeating the comment I have already made in this thread, which you are obviously not aware of:
'I pay attention to history, because the immigrant Russian population of the Donbas region ignites a civil war of separatism, which is against the Ukrainian Constitution and the Ukrainian Criminal Code regarding the norm of high treason.'
https://hcj.gov.ua/sites/default/files/field/file/the_constitution_of_ukraine.pdf Article 73
https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2341-14?lang=en#Text The Criminal Code of Ukraine, Article 111. High treason
I asked you what was wrong with Minsk Agreements. Why Kiev regime rejected it?
Or you can only repeat your silly propaganda slogans which have no connection to the reality?
Evidently your stupid intellect, your lack of legal knowledge, is not sufficient for you not to recognize how exactly I am answering your question on the subject of the Minsk agreements.
https://peacemaker.un.org/en/node/8835 Minsk I
https://www.unian.info/politics/1043394-minsk-agreement-full-text-in-english.html Minsk II
https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/the-minsk-agreements-and-moscows-false-ceasefire-promises-behind-russias-full-scale-invasion-of-ukraine-2195
https://babel.ua/en/texts/110567-exactly-ten-years-ago-the-representative-of-ukraine-signed-the-first-minsk-agreements-and-then-the-second-ones-which-were-even-more-beneficial-to-the-kremlin-here-s-how-it-was-and-hopefully-won-t-happ
https://www.beyondintractability.org/casestudy/grover-minsk-II-accords
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2020/05/minsk-conundrum-western-policy-and-russias-war-eastern-ukraine
I see, this question is too difficult for you.
Can you in such case confirm that the outcome of sabotaging Minsk Agreements by Kiev regime is not good for Ukraine?
So, you can't confirm this?
I doubt that you are Ukrainian. Highly likely you belong to some western country where some people are happy that Ukrainians and Russians kill each other. In other words, you (or the organization for which you are working) consider Ukraine as no more that an anti-Russian tool.
Are you that idiot who in the past had to copy and paste words from a previous comment to jar your limited memory?
I dispute your accusation. You are arguing militaristically and fascistically.
"America is responsible for this frankenstein monster it created" Yes, they are and the monster's name is trump.
US should stop funding and arming the horrible Ukraine war. Stop now. It's unfolding in similar ways to WWI, which all know now was unnecessary and ruined the rest of the 20th C.
Like many others in this forum, with your selfish demands, you are promoting Russia's imperialist conquests with its brutal war of aggression.
What selfish demands are you referring to? Ukraine has no claim on Americans. If individuals decide they want to contribute to Ukraine they can do so.
Many commentators here in the forum are talking about a proxy war between Ukraine (USA) and Russia.
Or a proxy war between Russia (USA) and Ukraine (installed dictatorship/grifter).
With this statement, you are defending an alliance between the autocrats and criminals Trump and Putin.
Piltdown Woman's "demands" are not selfish. She wants the killing of OTHER PEOPLE to stop. Nothing about that benefits her personally, more than upholding her evident humanity.
And why'd you pluralise "conquests" ? Who else do you claim the Russian Federation has overrun to protect ethnic Russian Ukrainians and stamp out neo-Nazis and keep NATO off it's lap ?
You support the abstruse, absurd Russian war propaganda and the falsification of history by the autocratic President Putin.
1. Freezing US foreign policy aid by the neo-fascist, autocratic, extortionate President Trump is not an altruistic act.
2. Are you calling all European states, e.g. Hungary, Austria, Italy, France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, etc. with neo-fascist parties and their immense electoral successes neo-fascist regimes?
3. American nuclear weapons and their strategic bomber aircraft have been stored close to Russia at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey since 1952. Russia is arguing inappropriately with regard to a military threat from the West.
4. The immigrant Russian population of the Donbas region ignites a civil war of separatism, which is against the Ukrainian Constitution and the Ukrainian Criminal Code regarding the norm of high treason.
5. https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CK%5CY%5CKyivanRushDA.htm Kyivan Rus’
And you actively ignore the evidence of
a) racist anti-ethnic-Russian-Ukrainian diktats lumped onto the Donbas by Kiev, including but not limited to banning a subsect of Christianity, that has been well-documented here on antiwar.com;
And b) the considerable documentation of Banderite / neo-Nazi influence in official Ukrainian military divisions, in the prosecution of the war against the Russian Federation, and in Western Ukrainian political spheres, ALSO published on antiwar.com going on ten YEARS now.
I get that you have chosen to actively bias yourself against anything Russian, and/or blind yourself to sickening realities within the Ukrainian political structure in order to choose them as your Preferred Good Guys, and/or maintain a myopic view that Everything Western Is Always Good Always Because Western Leaders Say So – but the time to pay attention to Reality is, well, all the time.
That you WANT something to be true does not MAKE it true.
I’d love for the Russians to stomp out those Aryan f**ks roosting in Ukraine and demonstrate that some ideologies (Naziism) deserve extermination, but I accept that, in Reality, they will not be able to accomplish this goal – not with NATO backstopping the Kievvian neo-Nazis.
I mainly argue as an anarchist against the Russian attack war, fundamentally against militarism, fascism, capitalism, imperialism, etc. and not against Russian culture or for the Ukrainian state. I absolutely reject your assumptions against me as a defamation. The defamation of other commentators and falsifying political events is likely to form a main goal of your authoritarian, necrophilic, sadistic, neurotic character, which usually applies to fascists, because those petty bourgeois decorate themselves with every day but deceptive speech.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-anarchist-antimilitarism-and-myths-about-the-war-in-ukraine
So you want Russia to win the Ukrainian war? Nice.
I do. I'll side with anyone against the racist murderous neo-Nazis running Ukraine.
Ally like we did with the Soviets the first time.
A few notable European leaders, including Mark Rutte and Donald Tusk, have arrived in London to meet with Keir Starmer and Volodymyr Zelensky.
They're apparently tone-deaf to Moscow's demands that NATO not provide peacekeeping troops. I believe Europe wants nuclear war and prefers the US to be the accidental instigator with London's persistence.
https://p.dw.com/p/4rG1B "UK, France and Ukraine will present peace deal to Trump, Starmer says"
Yes if USA provides security….
You give an arrogant answer regarding the nuclear power USA and its deterrent shield against the Russian nuclear power.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/nuclear-weapons-who-has-what-glance
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/us-modernization-2024-update
https://fas.org/initiative/status-world-nuclear-forces/
https://www.icanw.org/nuclear_arsenals
https://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear-weapons/worldwide
https://www.sipri.org/media/press-release/2024/role-nuclear-weapons-grows-geopolitical-relations-deteriorate-new-sipri-yearbook-out-now
https://www.nti.org/countries/russia/
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IF/IF12672 Russia’s Nuclear Weapons
https://armscontrolcenter.org/u-s-nonstrategic-nuclear-weapons/
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_50068.htm?selectedLocale=en NATO’s nuclear deterrence policy and forces
https://www.defense.gov/Multimedia/Experience/Americas-Nuclear-Triad/
https://www.state.gov/2024-report-to-the-senate-on-the-status-of-tactical-nonstrategic-nuclear-weapons-negotiations-pursuant-to-subparagraph-a12b-of-the-senate-resolution-of-advice-and-consent-to-ratification-of/
https://media.defense.gov/2018/Feb/02/2001872886/-1/-1/1/2018-NUCLEAR-POSTURE-REVIEW-FINAL-REPORT.PDF
https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/articles/nnsa-completes-b61-12-life-extension-program
https://thedefensepost.com/2025/01/08/us-upgrade-nuclear-bombs/
https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-russia-nuclear-arms-control
https://www.apln.network/analysis/commentaries/the-third-nuclear-age-in-southeast-asia
https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/a-new-us-russia-china-nuclear-arms-race-spells-danger/
https://thethirdnuclearage.com/
England and France already have their own deterrent shields. Leave us out of your MAD wishes.
At this point Europe deserves what it gets.
According to The Washington Post, “The Trump administration is considering ending all ongoing shipments of military aid to Ukraine in response to President Volodymyr Zelensky’s remarks in the Oval Office on Friday and his perceived intransigence in the peace process.”
In other words, Trump bases his policies on whether someone kisses his ass or not.
Much of what I'm seeing from my usual sources would seem to indicate that the beer hall putsch was not an accident.
Not hard to agree with them.
Starmer had already dissuaded Zelenskliiii shortly prior to the verbal brawl.
Dissuaded what?
Dissuaded him from the Agreement on the rare earth resources.
End all aid to Ukraine ASAP!
You join the ranks of unethical, amoral, stingy, cowardly, malicious commentators, and offer no peace plan as an alternative, but rhetorically support the imperialist conquest of Ukraine by Russia through a brutal war of aggression.
Perhaps you should read about the genocide against Russian Ukrainians in Eastern Ukraine before jumping to conclusions. Over 30,000 were murdered by Western Ukrainian fascists!
Perhaps you should read about the promise made by America and NATO to not expand one inch beyond the East German border made in the early 1990s.
Truth is in the history of Eastern Europe, America, NATO, and Russia. Please read the history before making rash uninformed comments.
I pay attention to history, because the immigrant Russian population of the Donbas region ignites a civil war of separatism, which is against the Ukrainian Constitution and the Ukrainian Criminal Code regarding the norm of high treason.
Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union there was no immigration Eastern Ukraine Russia from the 1600s
You're lying, please compare:
https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CI%5CM%5CImmigration.htm
"The influx of Russians increased constantly throughout the 19th century, particularly in the cities and in the industrial centers of the Donets Basin. …
In central and eastern Ukraine during the period 1890–1930, some two million immigrants, mostly Russians, arrived. …
From the 1930s, the mass immigration of Russians to the urban centers and industrial regions of the Ukrainian SSR intensified. It was encouraged by the Soviet authorities, who pursued a policy of Russification while destroying millions of Ukrainians during the Famine-Genocide of 1932–3, political repression, and deportations of the Stalinist terror. …
The number of Russians who immigrated to Ukraine in the second half of the 20th century has been estimated at eight million."
Immigrants??
You probably support the abstruse, absurd Russian war propaganda and the falsification of history by the autocratic President Putin.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181 Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“
https://origins.osu.edu/read/kyiv-rus-ukraine-russia
https://theconversation.com/how-moscow-has-long-used-the-historic-kyivan-rus-state-to-justify-expansionism-178092
https://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CK%5CY%5CKyivanRushDA.htm Kyivan Rus’
https://kyivindependent.com/kyivan-rus-then-and-now/
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Kyivan-Rus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27
https://ukraine.ua/explore/origins-history-of-ukraine/
I am sorry to have been involved in a discussion with a person like you.
1) Donetsk and Luhansk haven’t been “eastern Ukraine” since 2014 when they seceded.
2) The 2014-2022 casualties were about 14,000, the majority of which were 1) Ukrainian regime troops and 2) Donetsk/Luhansk separatist (aka Russian proxy) troops. Civilian deaths had come down to low single digits per year by the time Putin escalated his proxy war to full invasion of Ukraine … and the former explains the latter. Peace was breaking out with a Russian loss in the Donbas.
If you really believe that Putin's Russia "escalated his proxy war", I'll start doubting your nationality 😉
Doubt my nationality all you like. I doubt my nationality too 😀
Deaths might have been down but it's a stretch to say, "peace was breaking out".
Oh… and you're the only ethical, moral, generous, brave and benevolent commentator…!
Politically, economically, socially, ethically, etc., I take an anarchist approach.
https://www.icip.cat/perlapau/en/article/the-whole-world-is-our-homeland-anarchist-antimilitarism/
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/i-an-ok-ta-chai-anti-militarist-anarchy
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anti-militarist-initiative-anonymous-the-left-of-capital-is-sabotaging-the-anarchist-movement-l
https://libcom.org/tags/antimilitarism
https://monthlyreview.org/2001/09/01/anarchism-and-the-anti-globalization-movement/
https://www.persee.fr/doc/rbph_0035-0818_2006_num_84_4_5056 Internationalism without an International? Cross-Channel Anarchist Networks, 1880-1914
That doesn't justify your position…!
Well, I do not live in an anarchistic shaped society, so that I argue accordingly tactically and strategically politically to daily issues. I adhere to certain principles, such as public international law with its eligible human rights etc. or the struggle against militarism, war, nationalism, fascism, capitalism, imperialism or for syndicalism, communalism, socialism, therefore the rule-free, egalitarian, solidarity, self-managed society without hierarchy, with voluntary convention, etc.
https://files.libcom.org/files/Berkman%20-%20What%20Is%20Anarchism.pdf
https://libcom.org/article/what-anarchism-alexander-berkman
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-anarchism-its-philosophy-and-ideal
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-an-anarchist-programme
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/johann-most-the-free-society
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/erich-muhsam-the-liberation-of-society-from-the-state-what-is-communist-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/rudolf-rocker-anarchism-and-anarcho-syndicalism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/nestor-makhno-the-abc-of-the-revolutionary-anarchist
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/daniel-guerin-anarchism-from-theory-to-practice
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/morpheus-basic-principles-of-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/j-a-maryson-the-principles-of-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/donald-rooum-and-freedom-press-ed-what-is-anarchism-an-introduction
https://www.solidarities.org/blog/basic-principles-of-anarchism
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-anarchist-antimilitarism-and-myths-about-the-war-in-ukraine
A lots of adjectives.
Facts are facts, however. One can question Trump’s judgement on global politics, US hypocrisy, and Ukraine in particular. But bloviating does not help.
A country in such a situatiin as Ukraine should be thankful to US for making an effort to end the war.
Zelenski led Ukraine did everything to provoke this war by genocidal (not use the word lightly) policies and practice against its Russian speaking population. This continues unabated.
Zelenski is talking about civilians in this confluct knowing full well that Russia is operating in Russian populated Ukraine – the very population Zelensky did everything to obliterate or push into Russia. He is using them now as poor Ukrainians under occupation! What a sick sense of humor.
NATO countries – US included, supported Zelenski regime and his Nazi goons, funded it and gave it the political cover.
US now realizes what it means to its future global standing. One cannot remain a superpower by getting embroiled ever deeper into a post-Soviet deliberately engineered mess. .
US has global challenges that are leading to a gradual US loss of economic, financial, military, manufacturing and scientific standing. Not always a leadership is at stake — just keeping up with global Joneses.
Zelenski set himself up for trashing by being Mr. Arrogant, behaving like US owes him full protection, while his precious minerals, ports and gas infrastructure he already signed away in his infamous “100 year deal” with Starmer.
His price to change his mind was — US boots on the ground and US air power protection.
At least positions are now clear, Where does it leave Trump peace plan? On backburner until Ukraine asks for peace mediation. Trump will focus on bilateral issues with Russia.
But do not discount the metaverse of mimicry that has its global persona of talking heads invested into defeating Russia.
The universe of mimicry, reciting endlessly mantras of the common Russian scapegoat that must be destroyed — ignored a key Russian military/technology demo and the implied message.
The mimicry talking heads ignoted it — but US military did not.
Russian propaganda is limiting your consciousness. You are reciting long-winded (to bloviate), petty bourgeois historical fabrications of abstruse Russian or extortionist Trump propaganda, as I already state in my other comments in this thread and will not repeat. To be brief, I ask you to read my other comments in this thread to understand my position, which I don't see in your response. You twist the fact that Russia is destroying Ukrainian infrastructure with a brutal war of aggression, etc. You are inciting against Ukraine and contributing nothing to a peace movement.
The US was the aggressor to start with going back to Obama and Nuland with their coup in the Ukraine.
Whenever there is some "terror" attack or any other attack one can always find that it was the US first who instigated the whole mess.
Both American and Russian intelligence services operate worldwide.
You propagandistically misinterpret the political intervention of the USA in this case of Ukraine and deny the Russian military presence on foreign territory as well as the brutal Russian war of aggression without reason, which is destroying the infrastructure of Ukraine.
You adopt the Russian absurd, abstruse propaganda of an alleged military threat, although American nuclear weapons and their strategic bomber aircraft have been stored close to Russia at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey since 1952.
https://armscontrolcenter.org/u-s-nonstrategic-nuclear-weapons/
https://www.jagranjosh.com/general-knowledge/list-of-wars-fought-by-russia-1645792641-1
https://www.ukrainer.net/en/russian-wars/
https://ruswars.org/report/Report_Memorial.pdf A chain of wars, a chain of crimes,
a chain of impunity: Russian wars in Chechnya, Syria and Ukraine
Trump has repeatedly claimed the United States has spent $350 billion (€333bn) to support Ukraine, saying that is $200bn (€190bn) more than Europe has spent.
He has used the scale of US support as a justification to demand a massive $500bn (€475bn) deal on Ukrainian minerals from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Trump's figures have been rejected by Mr Zelensky and other European leaders, including France's President Emmanuel Macron.
According to the UST data, the US spent €118bn on aid to Ukraine as of 31 December 2024. This is broken down into €64 billion in military aid and €50 billion in financial and humanitarian allocations. A further €4bn has been committed but not yet allocated.
During the same period, European nations and institutions (like the European Commission) had spent around €132bn. That is broken down as €70bn in financial and humanitarian aid and €62 billion in military aid. An additional €115bn has been committed but not yet allocated.
The US federal government body, the 'Ukraine Oversight Interagency Working Group,’ estimates that the US has given $182.75bn (€174.16bn) in military aid since the full-scale invasion.
Another $20 billion could be added to the US total if loans to Ukraine given as part of a G7 plan are included in the US total.
Regardless, the total US number would still be far off President Trump’s figure of $350bn (€333bn). The figures indicate the claim that the US has spent $200billion more than Europe to be incorrect.
Are you starting an amoral, petty-bourgeois, statistical struggle over the figures?
"disqus_ky8vtfPjLn • an hour ago
Trump has repeatedly claimed the United States has spe-"
This poster is a plagiarist.
These are not his words.
He plagiarizes a lot.
Here's where the intellectual sleazebag plagiarized these words from:
"US vs Europe: Who actually gives more support to Ukraine?" (RTE, 2/26)
https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2025/0226/1499138-us-vs-europe-who-actually-gives-more-support-to-ukraine/
US vs Europe: Who actually gives more support to Ukraine? – By Kate McDonald.
Don't get your knickers in a knot.
Who cares? Trump always uses bombast to open his salvos. Was this the first time you've seen him in action?
My response? THANK GOD it's not Biden.
Who cares if Trump is a convicted felon and a rapist?
Since 2008 America has been panhandled for over $500 Billion for the criminals in Ukraine!
The main thing is that you support the criminal, extortionist machinations of the neo-fascist, autocratic president of the USA, Trump, with your absurd opinion.
Facts are facts! Truth is truth!
The perceptions of facts and truth lie within a rational, reasonable, understanding consciousness of the human brain, which you do not possess with regard to your disturbed consciousness concerning your opinion.
Since 1994, the leaders of the US, Russia and UK agreed to provide Ukraine with security assurances for its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state.
Since January 2025, America has seen a convicted criminal president pal up with wanted war criminals and try to blackmail Ukraine for $5 Trillion in resources.
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0963aaaf412abbe557b6349d6cc01e62034b16bed4e983b8e3bb6d50278861e.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60c67df8bd96832718f33da544d5b2e443bbaf5340a467242fdf6ffdac73c916.jpg
Will the Russians decide to board or sink every ship entering or leaving Ukraine's ports?
Let Starmer, Macron, and Scholz carry the load now. They love their wars so much, let them send their boys (and girls).
The US should end all aid to all countries no exception.
binber: Low IQ and minimal knowledge. Big warmonger though.
Emil Heinrich Du Bois-Reymond: "ignoramus et ignorabimus". With your vicious comment you clearly reveal your fascistic, sophistic, trolling identity with continuous insults, defamation, etc. I dispute your slander entirely. You are wasting digital resources of the forum with your useless, non-pertinent comments.
See? There's Exhibit A.
Why don't you delete me from your account?