National Security Advisor Mike Waltz said Thursday that President Trump and other US officials were “very frustrated” with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky over his recent rhetoric and for not signing a deal that would give the US access to Ukrainian rare earth minerals and other natural resources.
“[Trump’s] frustration with President Zelenskyy that you heard is multifold,” Waltz told reporters at the White House. “One, there needs to be a deep appreciation for what the American people and the American taxpayer, what President Trump did in his first term and what we’ve done since. There’s some of the rhetoric coming out of Kyiv, frankly, and insults to President Trump (that) were unacceptable.”
Waltz said the second reason Trump was frustrated was due to Zelensky turning down a rare earth deal brought to him by US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent. “Our own secretary of the Treasury personally made the trip to offer the Ukrainians what could only be described as a historic opportunity. That is for America to co-invest with Ukraine in their minerals, in their resources,” he said.
According to media reports, the offer Bessent brought to Zelensky would have given the US 50% of the rights to Ukraine’s rare earth minerals and other resources. It didn’t include any formal security guarantees, but Waltz said the US investing in Ukraine would be the “best security guarantee they can hope for. More than another pallet of ammunition.”
Axios reported on Thursday that the US has offered Ukraine a new proposal on a rare earth deal that addressed some Ukrainian concerns, the details of which are unclear. Sources told the media outlet that some of Zelensky’s aides are encouraging him to sign the deal to end the spat with Trump and give him a reason to justify continued US support for Ukraine.
Zelensky discussed the rare earth deal on Thursday with US special envoy Keith Kellogg, who was visiting Ukraine. After the meeting, Zelensky said Ukraine was ready for a “strong, effective investment and security agreement” with President Trump.
“We have proposed the fastest and most constructive way to achieve results. Our team is ready to work 24/7,” Zelensky said.
The Kellogg-Zelensky meeting came a day after Trump slammed Zelensky as a “dictator” who has done a “terrible job.” The spat between the two leaders was also related to the US holding talks with Russia without Ukraine, something Zelensky had complained about.
Let's hope the Trump administration can address the rot right here in America First: https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1892745322700406913
Let's hope the billionaire Kleptocrats don't steal too much from the Treasury.
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They're two generations too late, the Treasury is already just stuffed with worthless paper. When the Petrodollar finally withers into irrelevance our economy is not going to survive the shock very well.
The US economy is not going to survive a fascist dictatorship.
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White Christian America. Oooooh, scary.
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I am shocked. Shocked by the utter lack of creativity that went into this picture. That is so fucken sad it hurts my eyes.
I'm not shocked. You're a fucken fascist.
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You seem in possession of an awful lot of swastika's. To each their hobby's I guess but what does your mum think of it?
You seem to be an apologist for fascism.
Now Jesus is supposed to be a Nazi? How can we take this stuff seriously?
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Do you have a photo of this “dark skinned” Jesus?
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Make up your mind. Is President Trump the Grand wizard or Adolf Hitler?
No, President Trumpenführer is the new Adolf Hitler. He said that he wishes he had Hitler’s generals.
A little of both.
Because this type of crap worked so well for you in the last election.
I'm not American.
The genocide of Palestinians worked to defeat Biden in the last election.
https://www.trackaipac.com/trump
This worked out well for the Israeli war criminals.
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The Trump administration is a symptom of the rot in America, both in the sense that it’s a demonstration that things have become so bad that people are looking for something different, and in the sense that it’s not actually something different.
Well, it might be wrong entirely in its own right, but it's a pretty hard argument to make it isn't different. The difficulty for at least all the years of my life used to be to see the differences, the difficulty now is to be able to keep up.
Tom Knapp and all the rest of hte noisemakers do not find it hard to write nonsense.
Well, it is not nonsense. In my view it is merely a matter of perspective. The disagreement on my part is superficial. I am not into party politics. I am also not ideologically anti-government as such.
Rot is rot. Who cares if it's different.
Were you attempting to write a coherent and meaningful comment? All I see is rot!!!
Oh sure, there have been no negotiations on Ukraine for 3 years, Trump steps in, and negotiations begin, while you call that the same. How embarrassing for you to invert reality.
It's definitely something different or we wouldn't be seeing so much whining and crying over President Trump's policy shifts.
I am viewing the spectacle from a European perspective. It is a sight to behold I must tell you. It is panic all over. It is absolutely de-li-ci-ous.
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I don't know why you keep heaping on the evidence that speaks to your character. Were you trying to contribute to sadness or the shamefulness aspects of it with this exposé?
Trumpanzees shamelessly characterize fascism as a good thing. You do it well.
You're welcome.
Than you Warren for reality.
It’s my pleasure.
By ruining families, including families of disable vets?
Putting the country on the road to recession?
Making adversaries out of allies?
The whole world is frustrated with Zelensky!
Garbage. The whole world is frustrated with Trump!
U.K. Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has backed Volodymyr Zelensky as a "democratically elected leader" after war criminal Trump described the Ukrainian president as a "dictator". Sir Keir stated that it was "perfectly reasonable for Ukraine to suspend elections during wartime as the UK did during World War II".
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch also defended the Ukrainian leader, writing on X that Zelensky was "the democratically elected leader of Ukraine who bravely stood up to Putin's illegal invasion".
The word of two corrupt and despicable capitalist politicians representing western imperialism is suppose to like impress me? Try harder.
The word of two corrupt and despicable capitalist 'pretend' politicians representing Western imperialism is now a fascist dictatorship.
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Folks who attended the CPAC clown show said that they were frustrated that Muskrat could not put two coherent sentences together.
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I'll have to tell you the Hitler thing is getting really old and the treshold to become Hitler is getting lower and lower. Now it is just someone, anyone really you don't like.
I don't like that guy, therefore I am going to piss on about 70-85 million graves to say thay he is Hitler. That's about the entire content of the accusation.
If it weren't so goddamn pathetically disgraceful I would feel sorry for you.
More like y'alls Mental Gymnastics has no end to it.
If it walks like a Duck, quacks & does a Seig Heil..
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In the German language you indeed start each noun with a capital. In English this is not the case. The exception is with proper names. Then start with a capital. In German however adjectives are not written with a capital either. So to be at least consistent you should have typed mental Gymnastics to make your pathetic Attempt at insult, while perhaps not less impotent, devoid of meaning and content, at least consistently wrong.
But don't be discouraged, talent is nice, but practice does wonders.
Everyone knows that if your only comment is off Topic& a wrong take on Grammar..you have nothing to say
Okay, I might be wrong about the practice thing in your peculiar case. Your learning curve has a negative derivative. You seem to be going from imbecilic to outright unintelligible.
Ooohh wow.. Low effort Ad Hominem from a wannabe Faux Intellectual.
Such a convincing argument you have crafted..
Great job at proving what I said.
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Fascism is getting a little old. Trump, Putin and Netanyahu are war criminals.
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What about the subject of this article? Is relevancy a problem to you?
Yes, it is true. There are some difficulties in the relation between nerds and motor skills.
Apparently, there were some difficulties rehiring the nuclear weapons staff Trump stupidly fired.
I guess he realized that he needed the nerds' motor skills.
If the crown fits: wear it!….
All Hail King Donald !
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Yet the UK is frustrated with Starmer; whose favorability is in the toilet, and will not survive the next election; same with Macrom, and with Scholz. So trotting those losers out as "proof" the world is "fed up" with Trump is a little weak; these are empty suits whose own people have already shunned them.
Zelensky's own "popularity" hangs by a thread; it's frankly impossible to believe anything coming out of Ukraine, where opposition parties are banned, free press is shut down, and political opponents are jailed for "corruption".
It sems as though the only relatively popular leaders in Europe are those on the populist right, like Fico, Georgescu, Orban, AfD, Marine Le Pen, etc, and they all have a negative view of Zelensky; but of course the EU is doing everything it can to silence and sideline them
Yet, since the Brexit referendum, the UK Tory Government has become a revolving door of chaos and tired faces. What’s become clear is that the Tories may try to change the face at the top, but their values remain the same. Integrity: gone. Transparency: gone. Sound handling of the nation’s finances: gone.
Conservative leader Kemi Badenoch also defended the Ukrainian leader, writing on X that Zelensky was "the democratically elected leader of Ukraine who bravely stood up to Putin's illegal invasion".
Zelensky has a higher approval rating than Trump.
Says who? Some nebulous “Ukrainian Poll”? Who was included, the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians hiding from the draft, or the hundreds of thousands who were forcibly conscripted and sent to the front, or all the political opponents who have been jailed? Ukraine right now is no more democratic than Russia, and probably more corrupt.
Zelenskyy's approval rating grows to 57%, debunking Trump's 4% support claim. https://www.euronews.com/2025/02/19/zelenskyys-approval-rating-grows-to-57-debunking-trumps-4-support-claim
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Yes as reported by the “Kyiv Institute of Sociology”. Hardly an “impartial source”, almost certainly funded by US neocon affiliated NGOs (it is definitely a “joint operation with US ties”). I find it hilarious that when Russia reports that “92% of Crimean residents” voted for secession from Ukraine, the neocon partisans all scream that its russian propaganda, but when the neoNZs in Kyiv claim something, these same neocons all swear it “must be true”. If Zelensky thought he had a chance of winning, he would repeal martial law and hold an election because the optics would give him a huge boost. Of course, given that he has already outlawed opposition parties, shut down the free press, and jailed opponents might make finding someone to run against him problematic.
Crimea voted to secede from Ukraine in a referendum that most of the world condemned as illegal. The president of the European council said "the referendum is illegal and illegitimate and its outcome will not be recognized." Obama said that the US rejected the results.
Russia’s Sham Elections in Crimea https://osce.usmission.gov/russias-sham-election-in-crimea/
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Of course, given that Putin has already outlawed opposition parties, shut down the free press, and jailed or murdered his political opponents, this might make finding someone willing to run against this fascist dictator problematic.
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So Zelinsky’s acts are therefore in line with your allegations against Putin. OK; that supports my point, Zelensky is an authoritarian bum.
You have no point.
Neither do you; you’re just a zelensky shill; “putin bad, zelensky good, slava ukraine”. What nonsense. Trump is right to end this and send the little comedian off to exile.
You’re just a lunatic Putin apologist for a fascist, war-mongering authoritarian regime. Trump is a convicted criminal with no legal right to be blackmailing Ukraine to surrender to Russia’s demands. Trump is more of a comedian than Zelensky. No one takes him seriously.
You have all the charm of Ernst Rohm, the moral attitude of Joseph Mengele and a grip on reality equal to Rudolf Hess.
You have the brain of a Trumpanzee and the propaganda of a Kremlin troll.
I crossed my fingers in vain I see, but you do have the sense of humor of all three of them. That is perhaps the saddest trait of all.
You "admire and appreciate the courage it took and takes for the Trump administration to do what must be done."
LMFAO!
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Aww shucks. Did you write this yourself or did you get Ukrainska Pravda to scribble it for you?
Did you admire Hitler or are you more of a Joseph Goebbels kind of guy?
Because it's a binary choice, right? Actually, Zelensky is kind of a hitler wannabe, with the strong backing of neoNZs like the banderites and you. Sieg Heil little fella.
Your stupidity is a choice.
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Awww, is that a picture of your mommy? Or your wife?
Found a picture of your mommy.
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No you didn’t; try again little man.
Because it's a binary choice, right? Actually, Zelensky is kind of a hitler wannabe, with the strong backing of neoNZs like the banderites and you. Sieg Heil little fella.
The Ukrainian neoNZs are the war mongering regime; everyone else wants peace.
No actually, the world is pleasantly surprised at Trump not falling in the trap set out for him by the Biden administration and the Europeans. At first I feared he would fall for it and end up owning the war and the inevitable disaster ensuing, the nonsense that came out of Kellogg and a few other Trumpian voices – and was even referred to as a "plan" – made me facepalm in utter despair I'll be honest.
But the Trump administration drastically reversed course and seems to finally have come to an actual understanding of the reality of the situation. It's almost like they were presented with some actual intelligence. Finally!
I applaud them for that and I admire and appreciate the courage it took and takes for the Trump administration to do what must be done.
It will be interesting to see what Starmer and that little French Napoleon after him hope to accomplish, they truly seem to still not have come to realize their irrelevance. I hope it will be an eye opening experience for them. Meanwhile the EU leadership – if you can apply the word to that bunch of worthless critters – has been completely ignored as they very well should, as they have been busying themselves primarily delivering proof after proof that, besides their plan to suicide the entire Eurozone, there exists no potential for them contribute in a constructive manner in any way.
Has that 9-point plan outlined here a while back been abandoned? And what about demanding Ukraine pony up with 50% of their rare earth minerals? I don't know man, I'm happy There will be negotiations, but I don't see much to get excited about concerning some of the shit that is being bandied about.
I agree with you, that you do not know.
Fuck off moron.
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Yes. It was based as you well know on false premises, false information, ignored Russian sine qua non demands and the fact that they actually do as Trump recently acknowledged (on Air Force One I believe I heard him say that) "hold all the cards."
The rare earth minerals thing and the demanding random amounts of billions back is all a side show. Just throwing bones in the cesspit that is media today (better to feed them the nonsense than have them make up shit themselves.) Of course Trump has a point about the difference in financial burdens the US undertook in comparison to the Europeans. But it serves to make the point about Ukraine not being a vital US interest. It is neither for Europe, but they, meaning the leadership, are completely invested in the idiotic fantasy that they can "defeat Russia," on the cheap (meaning just spending Ukrainian lives and American money) while after three years, several billons of wasted taxpayer money and most likely much more than million dead later still not even having any idea of what the very concept means.
What should be done of course is to audit the Zelensky regime and find out where all the money went. That would be the final nail in his coffin. Probably not wise to be holding your breath for that. But I do hope the Trump administration is able to push that through.
From what it seems to me the negotiations between the RF and the USA are a huge step forward towards peace in Ukraine. They are after all the main players in this war, provided one is sufficiently based in reality to be able to see that Ukraine is the proxy and as such merely a means to an end. (The end being to weaken and possibly break up Russia, regime change and open the lands to plunder and such.) These negotiations seem to be about settling much more important issues that are of interest to the US (the Arctic, China) and of interest to Russia (Europe, the Middle East, Arctic) going forward in the context of a multipolar world. The losers are Ukraine and Europe if they are unable to course correct in a similarly drastic way as the US did and also come to realize the world has fundamentally changed from the world in which the security arrangements through the NATO structure had actual meaning.
It does seem though the current leadership and elites are utterly incapable of making that jump.
Of course President Turdface is ignoring U.S. obligations to Ukraine under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), 1968
I do not think wanting Ukraine to compensate us is a sideshow, though it is not related to the negotiations with Russia. US assets are a primary concern of Trump. He is not like Bish, Clinton, Biden, spending many billions for no reason and expecting nothing back.
Well there is a huge gap between what the US says it provided the Ukrainian regime with and what Zelenksy maintained they received. There were some different numbers thrown around but conservatively that gap is about 100 billion dollars that just seems to have disappeared.
So it is very reasonable for the Trump administration at the very least to have some questions that needs an answer. And if that money hasn't been appropriated correctly they should absolutely get it back. You will receive no objection from me.
All nine? I kind of doubt it.
1. Ukrainian troops must withdraw from Kursk at the time of the April Truce
2.Ukraine must end martial law and hold presidential elections by the end of August and parliamentary elections by the end of October
3.Ukraine must declare neutrality and promise not to join NATO. NATO must promise not to expand to Ukraine
4.Ukraine will become a member of the EU by 2030
5.Ukraine will not reduce the size of its armed forces and the U.S. will continue modernizing the Ukrainian armed forces
6.Ukraine refuses military and diplomatic attempts to return the occupied territories but does not
officially recognize Russian sovereignty
7.Some sanctions on Russia will be lifted, including EU bans on Russian oil
8.Parties that support Russian language and peaceful relations with Russia can participate in Ukraine’s elections. State actions against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church and Russian language must cease
9.The idea of a European peacekeeping force is to be discussed separately
From the Ukrainian side they would sure like to use the Kursk occupation as a bargaining chip, perhaps in a sort of land for land trading scheme. I haven't seen any convincing evidence the Russians see it that way.
The Zelensky regime isn't going to hold elections. There might have been shortlived upsurge in his approval ratings by Trump attacking Zelenksy and it might not be exactly 4% but it is unlikely to be over the 20% and certainly is not the 56% maintained in the legacy media at the moment. The only way would really know for sure are elections, but then this answers the question why there haven't been any and are not going to be any.
Ukraine is going to be neutral despite all the machinations of the European war party and whatever the Ukrainians want or don't want. That has been always the case and was the reason for the SMO, so that was, is and is going to be just an immutable feature of the course of history.
Membership of the EU will also be very problematic and would more likely than not destabilize Europe, especially the agricultural sector, if not done properly. Europe does not possess a leadership capable of the task. 2030 certainly is not a realistic term, not even for Ukraine to even make any discernable progress battling their rampant corruption. Effective disarmament of Ukraine is merely an aspect of their neutrality. There is not going to be any 'modernization' of the Ukrainian army by the US. That is just code for NATO-izing Ukraine. Not going to happen.
The former eastern Ukrainian oblasts, for the largest part now under Russian control are in fact Russia as far as the Russians are concerned. They are constitionally recognized as Russian territory. They will be as likely to be returned to Ukraine as Texas is going to be returned to Mexico. Not in any of the possible timelines encompassing this Universe. Mexico could opt to not officially recognize American sovereignty over Texas. They even might for all I know. I am not inclined to spend any valuable time checking this for it is of no importance or consequence whatsoever.
I don't know about the sanctions, the Europeans seem to love their sanctions way too much. Its a fetish. They are absolutely hell bent on keep shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe they will be forced by the US to come to their senses kicking and screaming, but it will be a fight in and of itself.
No discrimination and freedom of religion seem to me to be not so much part of any sort of negotations as they are merely inalienable human rights under the UN Charter.
And there is under no circumstances ever going to be any Europeans involved in any peacekeeping force. That would be NATO, hardly even worht the disguise. It is not like there could be any misunderstanding about this being a complete and utter non starter.
The whole plan does not take into consideration that what Trump more recently did actually stated clearly, which is that Russia holds all the cards.
This "plan" seems to have served just as a list of talking points to keep the Europeans busy with to them semi-plausible nonsense containing stuff the might like to hear, while the Trump team could focus on the important stuff, the actual negotiations between the parties that count.
I only brought them up because one side or the other is going to have a serious problem with most of the 9 points. I don't disagree much with your assessment of the points, but you have way more common sense than anyone involved. I believe a good many of those points will be on the negotiating table. Especially #5.
"The rare earth minerals thing and the demanding random amounts of billions back is all a side show."
By Reuters
President Donald Trump reversed course on Friday and said Russia did in fact invade Ukraine, and that Kyiv would soon sign a minerals agreement with the United States as part of efforts to end the Ukraine war.
Trump had said on Tuesday that Ukraine “should have never started“ the war three years ago, prompting a wave of criticism both domestically and internationally. Pressed on the subject in an interview with Fox News Radio on Friday, he acknowledged Russia had invaded Ukraine on the order of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“Russia attacked, but they shouldn’t have let him attack,” Trump said, adding that Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and then-U.S. President Joe Biden should have taken steps to avert the invasion.
Later, Trump predicted a minerals agreement would be reached soon.
“We’re signing an agreement, hopefully in the next fairly short period of time,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office when asked about a possible deal for Ukraine’s minerals.
To me, that makes #5 on the peace plan more likely.
(5.Ukraine will not reduce the size of its armed forces and the U.S. will continue modernizing the Ukrainian armed forces.)
The situation is complicated and unpredictable. If, for example, Ukrainian army starts to collapse by this summer and Russian troops move to Odessa? Then everyone in West will blame Trump for stopping military support of Ukraine. Much depends of what kind of agreement can achieve Putin and Trump. Putin is more interested in denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine than in capturing territories. In a way, for Russia it could be even better to leave some pro-Russian territories in Ukraine. It could be a kind of guarantee from a possible neo-Nazi revanche. Besides, it could be considered by U.S. and Turkey as a favor and they would be more flexible in creating a new system of European security which for Putin is priority.
Denazification of Ukraine? LMFAO!
I suppose you think Putin's far-right neo-Nazi paramilitary groups were just spreading peace and love as they massacred Ukraine civilians?
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If Russia goes into Odessa, that is Ukraine's fault. I am not part of your "everyone" who supposedly will blame Trump. Russia already properly took several areas in the country, did that "everyone" blame Biden?
Neocons would never blame Biden, Obama or anyone else of their own gang, doesn't matter how disastrous is their management. Trump is different. His idea of terminating the war in Ukraine is not well accepted among American and European globalist elites. If Trump's peace deal ends up in losing Kharkov, Odessa or other regions which so far escaped referendums, then even many of his supporters would be discontent.
The point is that the last Putin's peace proposition in what does concern territories, was about only four oblasts + Crimea. So, if, after the peace negotiations and stopping the military support of Ukraine, Russia takes more than that, it can't look good for Trump because it is he who initiated the peace deal.
I see what is going on now as a continuation of what Trump campaigned on. So, Trump had that intelligence the entire time. I don't see any big changes from the campaign. Kellogg and other can try to manipulate things but they failed. They put out stories in the media in that regard.
More childish garbage.
It's almost like you worship a disgusting convicted orange felon who doesn't have a clue about anything outside of the U.S. except kissing Putin's ass.
So just to satisfy my curiosity, who am I worshipping?
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Oh so, you wanted to make clear you don't tolerate other opinions, lack any semblance of creativity, the intelligence to assemble an argument of sorts. I will reserve my judgment on the measure of your success for the moment.
I commend you though for making an attempt at humor, however cringeworthy it turned out to be.
The picture doesn't show a chimpanzee with an added Trump-like hair piece as seems to be implied to elicit the humoristic effect. It is a young (I think female) orangutan. I haven't been keeping up with the political preferences of different species of primates, but I guess that would indeed be an interesting subject of research to pursue.
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Albert, they have nothing to offer in the discussion here, other than cheap smears. like all Trump haters. They are upset that Trump is trying to stop the war.
I don't think Putin is very high on Trump.
Why:
1)tore up two nuclear treaties with Russia
2)sanctioned Russia
The ONLY things Trump is hot to trot about are:
1)cashing in on the mineral wealth in Ukraine. Personally
2)getting his GD hotel in Moscow.
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Our USA deerves compensation for the money wasted helping corrupt Ukraine. We see that you disagree.
Trump and Putin preventing nuclear war is lots more important than treaties which are often violated and not monitored.
I suppose you think Putin just adored Biden, who refused to talk to him.
Oh sure, Trump wants to personally profit off of the situation. That's all you have???
Don’t you think the U.S. has gotten compensation enough with all the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives being lost? Don’t you remember that Lindsey Graham and Mitt Romney said our deal with Ukraine was the best deal our money could buy? Ukrainian lives for American $$$ and war materiel was the deal, and now Trump wants to loot Ukraine to grab even more. Absolutely disgusting!
No. I have been making a bit of a point before all this happened that I didn't believe Trump would follow through on his electoral promise of ending the Ukraine war and would walk right into the trap that would end with him owning Biden's war. Which would just mean even a greater defeat for Ukraine and their US, EU, NATO backers.
When they launched their completely idiotic "Kellogg plan" I was all but sure that Trump had already been suckered. But it turns out (with a very high probability at this moment, I am still not certain) I was wrong. And I can't tell you how happy I am to be wrong. This not because the end result of this completely unneccessary and easily avoidable and, as it turned out – several times – easily haltable war is all that wonderful. It is not. It is going to be and is already a disaster for Ukraine. It is because the alternative is absolutely certain to be so much worse and could in the worst case scenario easily end up to be infinitely worse in quite a literal sense.
Trump vowed to end the war “within 24 hours”. How did that go? He also said he was “not looking to hurt Russia” and had “always had a very good relationship with Putin,” for whom he has expressed admiration. It has always been clear that Trump admires fascist authoritarians. I guess you do to.
You have been making a bit of Kremlin propaganda. Biden didn’t invade Ukraine. He rightly provided military aid to Ukraine as per the NPT agreement. You are an apologist for a murderous dictator’s war crimes. Trump’s siding with a murderous war criminal is going to be the end of Ukraine.
Trump is now complicit in Israeli war crimes. He’s telling Europe to buy more US weapons, and encouraging Russia to attack NATO countries if they don’t pay enough. Yeah, he’s a real man of peace. LOL!
On 17 March 2023, following an investigation of war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin, the president of Russia, and Maria Lvova-Belova, Russian commissioner for children’s rights, alleging responsibility for the war crime of unlawful deportation and transfer of children during the Russo-Ukrainian War.
You thought Trump was making it up, that he wanted peace? What was your basis? Trump wanted to clean up Ukraine, which was used against him in the impeachment plots.
Who launched a Kellogg plan??? When was that launched? When was that plan ever the part of any negotiations? It wasn't, so, it was never launched. Kellogg put out some "plan" before the real plan came from Trump. Kellogg can suggest a plan, he does not make it.
Well no, but the Kellogg plan was all we had to go on in the initial stages and among the points was a cease fire, which was clearly rightaway to be a non negationable issue. Russia could not have been more clear about that. Then one of the points was a postponement of the NATO membership for Ukraine for whatever 10 years or so in exchange for territory, meaning effectively a freeze of the conflict, lifting of sanctions and normalization of US-Russia relations. Also completely a non starter. Not something there could have been at any point any sort of confusion over. The Kellogg plan (and I also have trouble calling it a plan, because it looked to me more like a short list of random wishful thoughts.) was clearly built on top of assumptions that weren't in accordance with reality, but seemed to rhyme much more with the ongoing propaganda effort . It was presented as a guideline for a formal policy to end the conflict and for starting negotiations at the time. It would have failed miserably if pursued. Fortunately it wasn't.
Maybe it was all part of a brilliant plan to redirect the world's attention to a bunch of nonsense and leave Kellogg the task to keep the Ukrainians and Europeans busy with the bullshit while the real plan was being carried out in preparation of the negotiations between the grown ups of US and Russia. If so then kudo's all over. It did succeed to keep the Europeans effectively from fucking things up. And it did fool me too.
Only when the fighting stops, we can see where we are. Ukrainian war, important as it is, is only one of the issues. There are many other things they are talking about.
Trump wanted to clean up Ukraine, which was used against him in the impeachment plots.
And yet, in 2022, he bragged about sending Ukraine Javelins and chastised Obama/Biden for sending blankets. If he had been pressured to sell Ukraine lethal weapons when Obama wouldn't, he would have let everyone know about it. But the Trumpsters always like to blame the first impeachment as to why Trump caved and sent them those Javelins. The same Trump that they keep saying will stand up to the deep state.
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Kid Starver has negative credibility.
The imperialism of President Trump demands raw material resources for the future technology of US industry from Ukraine for his peace negotiations and exploits Ukraine.
https://unric.org/en/rare-earths-and-strategic-minerals-in-ukraine/
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/20/ukraine-trump-zelensky-rare-earth
https://www.mining.com/web/ukraine-rejects-us-bid-for-50-of-rare-earth-minerals-ft-says/
https://energy.virginia.gov/geology/REE.shtml Rare Earth Elements
https://americanrareearths.com.au/
https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/greenlands-rare-earths-attract-european-and-us-interest-signaling-potential-mining-boom
https://rareearths.com/
https://profession.americangeosciences.org/society/intersections/faq/what-are-rare-earth-elements-and-why-are-they-important/
https://www.energy.gov/fecm/rare-earth-elements
https://en.institut-seltene-erden.de/seltene-erden-und-metalle/seltene-erden/ Rare Earth Elements – English and other languages
https://www.rareelementresources.com/rare-earth-elements
https://lynasrareearths.com/about-us/what-are-rare-earths/
https://www.rainbowrareearths.com/
https://www.sciencehistory.org/education/classroom-activities/role-playing-games/case-of-rare-earth-elements/history-future/
https://www.usgs.gov/centers/national-minerals-information-center/rare-earths-statistics-and-information
https://www.statista.com/chart/33754/countries-with-the-greatest-known-reserves-of-rare-earths/
https://www.iea.org/reports/rare-earth-elements
It's called blackmail.
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This picture has nothing to do with the real situation. It is just an attempt to insult Trump, and no more than that.
Really? Your reply is just a lame attempt at defending a convicted felon.
Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812
Trump is a insult to rational thinking adults.
Well, in this case you're both right. The picture is empty propaganda, and Rump is an insult to anyone with a rational mind (adult or not).
The BBC news article is not "empty propaganda."
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=10155972557887217
A rational mind is not childish enough to write a junk post like you just did.
How about the actual subject here, that would be a laugh, for you to comment relevantly.
Wasn't Hunter Biden a convicted felon?
I mean, prior to daddy pardoning him?
Wasn't the Taliban George Dubya's enemy?
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You art philistine. You show no understanding of art.
You call this stinking piece of rubbish – art?
Nope.
Both parties surrendered to stupidity.
Rather than a harmonious relationship with Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. both parties refused the Russian request to be a part of the Western Alliance, to live in peace.
The first idiot to dash those hopes was a Democrat. Bill Clinton.
To hell with all of them.
Wrong. Only the GOP surrendered to Trump's stupidity.
After the fall of the Soviet Union, Ukraine became the third largest nuclear power in the world and held about one third of the former Soviet nuclear weapons. Under pressure from Russia and the US, Ukraine acceded to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1994 as a non-nuclear-weapon state, and committed to remove all nuclear weapons from its territory in accordance with agreement.
Russia, the US, the UK and Northern Ireland reaffirmed their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.
The Ukraine Government in 2014 again reaffirmed its 1994 decision to accede to the NPT as a non-nuclear-weapon state. Despite Ukraine's adherence to the agreement, Putin illegally annexed Crimea and invaded Ukraine in total violation of international law.
A member of Ukrainian parliament said, "We gave up nuclear weapons because of this agreement. Now, there's a strong sentiment in Ukraine that we made a big mistake." He's right. Trump would probably have more respect for Ukraine if they were threatening to nuke the Kremlin.
How come you omit the part about not expanding NATO eastward? Not relevant enough for you?
Also, please revise your narrative w.r.t. the 2014 annexation of Crimea to reflect reality.
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How come you defend a wanted war criminal?
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Russian in the Western Alliance, that is a lame idea. Little wonder why is was dump.
Russian in the Western Alliance, that is a lame idea. Little wonder why is was dump.
Thank you. From one of your links:
Where Are the World’s Rare Earth Metals?
Greenland
by
Anna Fleck,
Jan 13, 2025
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has said once again he wants to buy Greenland, the autonomous territory of Denmark, citing national security concerns as the chief reason for such expansionist motives. Greenland is located in a strategic position for the U.S., in terms of both missile defence and maritime trade, the latter of which will become increasingly important as Arctic sea ice continues to melt, exacerbated by climate change.
Observers also highlight, however, that Greenland is known to have an abundance of important rare earth elements. These deposits have become a highly coveted commodity, used in electronics and for the production of batteries vital to the green tech transition. Data from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) shows that Greenland has the eighth largest reserves of rare earths in the world, at 1.5 million tonnes. This is similar to the known reserves of the United States (1.8 MT).
While Greenland has significant reserves, USGS data also shows that no mining activities for rare earths were carried out there in 2023. Although Greenlandic companies had turned to China for investment for mining initially, projects came to a standstill after the 2021 Greenlandic elections. Voters decided that while mining could be a step towards greater economic development and even independence from Denmark, the costs to the environment and potential disruption to traditional practices would too heavily outweigh any benefits. A main sticking point here was that the major mine – Kvanefjeld, near the town of Narsaq – intended for rare earths extraction would also produce radioactive uranium, which locals feared would result in radioactive dust falling on nearby communities and farmland. The vote led to a ban on uranium mining and left rare earth extraction projects on hold. In 2021, Greenland also stopped all plans for future oil and gas exploration.
As the USGS data shows, China has by far the largest rare earth reserves at an estimated 44 MT, accounting for nearly 40 percent of known global rare earth reserves.
Hey leftist propgandist, we do not accept reading assignments from you.
We see you have been unable to develop comprehension. The USA deserves compensation. You oppose that. That compensation is not related to the peace negotiations. It is called fairness. That was our money wasted there by Crook Biden, your hero.
The exploitation of Ukraine was in the 2014 coup, biolabs, money laundering, and the provocation of Russia to attack.
You go it all wrong, which I imagine is quite often.
Try writing a reply to someone without dropping insults. Can you do that?
"One, there needs to be a deep appreciation for what the American people and the American taxpayer, what President Trump did in his first term and what we've done since." – they have done a great job militarizing Ukraine and pushing it against Russia which terminated in a disaster for Ukrainian people.
"insults to President Trump (that) were unacceptable" – why? Insulting heads of states is normal now in West.
"second reason Trump was frustrated was due to Zelensky turning down a rare earth deal brought to him by US Treasury Secretary " – Trump offered to Zelensky a deal: Zelensky gives rare earth minerals to American corporations free and then he goes to the elections which he has no chance to win. Trump said himself that Zelensky's rating is only 4%. Great deal indeed. Whatever Zelensky is, he is not an idiot.
As it was said already many times, Zelensky is not a legitimate head of Ukrainian state, and therefore, all documents signed by him are void. Probably Trump needs this rare earth deal with Zelensky as an argument in his negotiations with Putin, and also for negotiations with future Ukrainian government.
Trump said that Zelensky was a "dictator". ROTFL!
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Neocon propaganda surpassed Nazi propaganda greatly. According to neocons, neo-Nazis are the most staunch defenders of democracy and anyone who exposes neocon lies is an agent of Putin.
If Hitler had CNN, Germans even now would think that they won WW II.
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.
Might is Right, right?
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Trump sends first migrant detainees to Guantanamo Bay. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0p1ykxyzjo
Aren't you the accuser? I mean to the point of utter boredom you are. Are you now saying Goebbels is right? Were you actually deliberately trying to wrap irony in satire or is it just a happy coincidence?
If not then you should pursue a carreer in comedy, because this is the stuff of genius.
Both JD Vance an RFK Jr. compared Trump to Hitler. The irony is hilarious.
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Putin would just laugh at that "argument", since the only Ukrainian rare earth deposits worth mining are in Russian-held territory already. The rest are pretty low quality ores, similar to those found throughout most of Europe already.
I don't think Putin would mind American participation in development and exploitation of those mines if U.S. and Russia normalize their relationships.
Russia’s leadership is not dumb enough to believe that “normalization” with the US is possible over the long term (and exploiting a new mine requires a decade at a minimum). They’ve learned well that any treaty or agreement signed by one administration can just be abrogated or ignored by the subsequent occupants of the White House. They probably don’t like the idea of introducing Bush/Clinton-connected Barret Mining (because you know that’s who it would be) and its utterly revolting techniques to their country, either.
After the beginning of the special military operation, many American companies moved out from Russia. They lost about $300 billions. Russian business took advantage of it. There are no harm in foreign investment providing the companies are acting within Russian law.
"Special Military Operation"
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We have no idea who would do the mining, neither do you. Besides you said there are no significant mineral deposits there.
For Russia, no, they’re not worth mining. For a foreign country to mine in Ukraine it might be worthwhile if they don’t have access to better/cheaper deposits.
Barrett Mining was an example, there are half a dozen equally slimy and almost as well connected corporations who would be no better. No corporation that the US forces on some other country is going to be anything other than horrible.
Quite so. If these REM deposits would be economically viable to mine they would have already been won. There would as a matter of speech not be any haggling over deposits but over stocks.
There are varous minerals in Ukraine, which can be used to compensate the USA by the corrupt Ukraine government. Some of them are not actually rare earths proper. Brian Bixby of course claims to be a mineral expert because he read some publication which does not want the USA to be compensated.
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It's not a deal when it's pure extorsion.
Who invented $11.5 trillion…?! Lady Lindsey…?!
Through whatever means, Russia will decide who becomes Ukraine's next president.
Or the Azov/Banderite faction.
Picked up by armored carrier. Deposited in a casket.
Or the North Korean troops killed who were told they're fighting South Korean forces. https://kyivindependent.com/north-korean-troops-in-russia-reportedly-told-theyre-fighting-south-korean-ukrainian-forces/
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Not so fast: if Russia could do that, they would have already done it. CIA-Gladio dominates the Ukrainian deep state since at least 2014 and Russia is by comparison mediocre at regime change. Achieving that through purely military means (conquest) is possible but would require many years of war ahead.
Besides frustrations… Apparently Zelenski lied about the rare earth elements…Not much of it exists in Ukraine…!
There are deposits, but most are not worth extracting. The only ones with high enough value to be economically mined are all in Russian-held territory. Russia doesn't need to bother mining them though because they have much better deposits elsewhere in the country.
Trump can't discern "rare earths" from "rare and valuable metals" (original report phrasing), which include gold, titanium, manganese, lithium, etc.
“One, there needs to be a deep appreciation for what the American people and the American taxpayer, what President Trump did in his first term and what we’ve done since. There’s some of the rhetoric coming out of Kyiv, frankly, and insults to President Trump (that) were unacceptable.”
What a fucking tool. And every other country the US used as a proxy should also feel a "deep appreciation" for allowing their country to be destroyed.
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1933 Germany – again
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It is 2025. Germany however is as per usual on the wrong side. That is the only constant here.
Germany's support for Israel shows they are on the wrong side.
Yes, they are nothing but reliable that way.
A picture of thousands of illegal immigrants coming across the border at the invitation of Biden would better show how to destroy a nation – by stealing an election then molesting Americans as a whole!
Except for the pesky fact that more people leave than stay.
Net Migration is & has been, down
Would that be the same Biden as the Biden who, like Obama, deported more immigrants than Trump?
This shows how out-of-touch US politicians are concerning their own citizens…!
It suggests that Trump is being manipulated into supporting Ukraine. Hopefully, that’s not the case.
He was won over by, “take the oil” in Syria.
Trump used ZERO nations as proxies.
The Ukrainian crooks just loved Crook Biden. They hurl insults at Trump because they want billions more, more destruction, and WW3.
I quoted Mike Waltz, and you reply with that? Are you Don Jr.?
He's tRiGgErEd
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/02/20/anyone-who-wants-the-ukraine-war-to-continue-is-a-monster/
Skip down a few paragraphs to read which U.S. Presidents supplied Ukraine with weapons prior to the Russian SMO.
Heading the list is Mr. Trump.
Ukraine is a de facto NATO member from the start of the 2014 regime change when the Ukrainians were armed and trained NATO troops, Trump funded the civil war and the use of US weapons used against Russian speaking Ukrainians.
Trump had one whole term to stop it, he made no effort.
I can see that you folks are going to be upset when Trump attains peace. So then the 2014 coup is all Trump's fault?? Wow that's great analysis. Go figure, with advisers like Bolton, no wonder Trump was unaware of the turmoil in Ukraine. Trump funded no civil war, liar.
Of course he didn't have anything to do with 2014 since he wasn't president until 22016.. But he hired Bolton. And he DID WILLINGLY supply Javelins to Ukraine.
Caitlin Johnstone is not a credible source. She spread Kremlin propaganda regarding Putin's murderous campaign in Syria.
"Murderous"? Saving secularist Syria from US fascist islamist proxies? Their only fault was not pushing all the way to Idlib and let Turkey invade Afrin. Free Syria from the fascists!
Putin targets Ukrainian civilians because he got away with it in Syria.
A UN investigation into atrocities committed in Syria has accused Russia of direct involvement in war crimes for indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas.
The latest report from the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria focuses on events of July 2019 to January 2020, and in particular attacks by “pro-government forces” on civilian targets like medical facilities, driving 700,000 civilians from their homes.
Putin’s Syrian Puppet: War Crimes and Complicity from Syria to Ukraine. https://www.csce.gov/hearings/putins-syrian-puppet-war-crimes-and-complicity-from-syria-to-ukraine/
After 53 years of dictatorial oppression, Syria is finally free of the fascist Assad regime.
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Both total fake news, propaganda, blood libel of the worst kind.
Russia respects civilians in terms absolute (Ukraine on the contrary murders them at will and worse: child and organ trafficking have been way too common). All “chemical attacks” in Syria were staged by the White Helmets, an islamist organization controlled by the USA and akin to ISIS. All those islamo-fascist entities are the worst class A war criminals.
I’m gonna block you: you look like USAID scum.
We get it, "blah blah blah all orange man's fault blah blah blah".
Trump does not head the list, you make up stuff. Biden dumped $180 billion on Ukraine, including long range missile for WW3 intigation.
The need to protect 'our' Rare Earth materials in Ukraine is going to be a long, expensive, slippery slope that's quickly going to require Thousands of U.S. troops, in Ukraine.. for many years, at great cost ..
See Afghanistan for an example
You got it: Trump wants the "deal" to justify the extension of the war, possibly its expansion to boots-on-the-ground even.
Right. Trumpenführer is prepared to commit war crimes to impress his fascist pal Putin.
Trumpism:
a system ruled by fascists who use their power to steal other country's resources.
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Zelensky is in no position to give something away that does not belong to him, the same goes for Trump or any American official, he is old enough to know that by now one would think.
When will we ever again get an adult president with common sense, integrity, and decency??? We can't take it anymore Alzheimer and dementia and megalomaniacs for president, we had more than enough.
Competent presidents pick competent advisors, cabinet members.
Sleazy conmen pick sleazy conmen.
One would think you would be able to write reasonable posts too. Aren't you old enough to tell us what you think instead of whining? Come on, give us a good laugh.
Hey noisemaker, instead of whining incessantly, how about citing a single thing wrong with Trump's mineral plan? I know, you cannot, so you whine instead.
You just like to whine out of personal frustration.
Bloomberg posted an article yesterday featuring a mining expert who stated what everyone with a brain should realize; Ukraine's "fabulous deposits of rare earth metals" are a fairy tale. Yes, they have some; so do many other countries, including the USA, Russia, and Canada. They are NOT being mined, because extraction and processing is very expensive, environmentally harmful, and the end products must compete on a world wide commodities market that is currently dominated by China, who can sell much more cheaply than a new start can.
Further, NOTHING that happens in Ukraine will happen without a significant price add-on to cover corruption, bribes, theft, and graft.
Floating this fairy tale now is an old trick; it was done in 2003 with promises that "Iraq is a rich nation, they can finance their own reconstruction", and in 2011, when the public started calling for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the same "smart people" started talking about the "fabulous mineral resources of Afghanistan", including how they were primed to become "the Saudi Arabia of Lithium". It's always the same sad song; endless promises that never pan out.
The Bloomberg propagandists do not want the USA to be compensated, they want their allies such as BlackRock to get the spoils.
That makes no sense. Every scrap of information out there from before the war supports Bloomberg’s opinion; the shutdown of mining in Ukraine due to lack of profitability, the inability to attract foreign investment, the inability to do anything themselves. IF there was “money to be made” in that sad country, people would have been making it prior to 2022. Instead, ever since “independence” Ukraine has been losing people, and losing mining and manufacturing.
It's a confusion of Trump: who can't discern rare earths from the original phrasing "rare metals" (such as gold, titanium, manganese…)
Yet Ukraine is a very minor player in the mining of any of that; they clearly have gold reserves, but mining of it, which began in 2013 is very limited due to an almost complete lack of foreign investment (go figure); titanium production is tiny compared to either China or Russia; they were a leader in manganese production, but that is largely shut down now due "to a shortage in electricity", which is NOT going to change until their energy infrastructure is rebuilt. So again; it's a fable; mining in Ukraine will require an immense amount of investment and development before anyone makes a penny. And no one with any sense will "invest" in an economic basket case like Ukraine. They didn't BEFORE the war; why would they do it AFTER the war, when conditions (infrastructure, transportation network, availability of skilled labor and mining equipment, availability of energy) are so much worse?
“Tiny” production compared to rival powers is still relevant, especially if it can be expanded: nobody says that the Ukrainian mining potential has been adequately exploited, especially for modern demands (lithium or titanium were not so important in the past, gold was never so much in the hands of BRICS). Trump may be confused but I’m sure that someone is counting the actual worth for him. I’m not a mining expert so I can only judge so far but there’s something worth Trumps demands for sure.
That brings me back to my original post. quote, “I HOPE Trump is actually consulting some actual mining experts about this”. Nothing I can find supports this “fabulous riches” premise; not without first sinking an incredible amount of investment to develop it first. Yes, there are mineral deposits there. Nowhere near as abundant as in Russia, or China, or Canada, or the USA, or in several other countries, but they do exist. Yet they haven’t been exploited, and in fact mining has been steadily decreasing since 1990, even though Ukraine has been desperate for money since independence. Unless one chooses to believe that every mining company in the world is simply stupid, there must be a reason; most likely being that these deposits are not profitable given the current market prices and the amount of investment required.
Anyway, I don’t really care. Ukraine does not deserve more looting but peace, democracy and socialism. I hope the USA pulls out of Europe as result of the mafioso-like “negotiation” non-skills of Trump. I hope that his extremely aggressive clumsiness wakes up European leadership and destroys NATO for good.
Europe has no enemies and needs not US “protection” (extorsion racket). Europe has to stand on its own.
Before the war the US (et al.) looted the most immediately available resources such as agricultural land and state gold reserves primarily. The latter was reported right after the Maidan putsch and the latter mostly under Poroshenko.
OK; but what does that have to do with the prospects for “mineral riches” in Ukraine, that were suddenly magically discovered, even though Donbas was a major center for mining and processing in Soviet days? I will stick with my position; if the Soviets didn’t feel the resources were worth the cost of extracting and processing, they probably still aren’t, especially with the added costs of a ruined national infrastructure and the built in Ukrainian corruption to be paid for before any profits can be realized.
They were not “suddenly discovered”, although it may have been the case for Trump. Donbass was and is mostly a coal basin, a “rustbelt” of sorts, it still holds around 1/5 or 1/4 of the Ukrainian population and nearly all of them are Russian speakers (and have been so since Russia conquered those lands to the Tatars).
Anyway, some resources became more valuable recently (lithum for example) or other resources may not have been known. For example the vast Russian gas reserves of West Siberia were only discovered in the 80s or 90s, late for Soviet exploitation (earlier discovery may have changed history by means of injecting lots of non-nuclear energy in thr USSR economy?)
By “suddenly discovered” I mean that NOBODY mentioned these “fabulous riches” as any sort of issue in either the runup to war, or the first two years of the war. It was only as Ukraine’s disastrous “counteroffensive” failed, and the Russians began gaining ground daily, that Lindsay Graham started with the “fabulous riches” excuse for encouraging additional support for a losing effort. Lithium has been identified as a key element for batteries since 2005, when oil prices began a sharp spike, and the “peak oil” fever started sweeping the world. And again, Lithium is not rare; it exists, in vast deposits, all over the world; including two enormous deposits just announced in the USA (in Arkansas and Nevada), and it was used as a justification to stay in Afghanistan (the so-called “Saudi Arabia of Lithium”) back in 2011-2012.
But we have beaten this subject to death. If you believe there is “something there” that’s worth fighting a war for, good for you; I don’t; I believe it is a desperate zelinsky dangling a pathetic carrot to try and re-encourage flagging foreign support, being egged on by neocons. But we will see.
Because the Dems do things more quietly: they still backstab you but pretend it’s friendly embrace and smile manically while they do. Trump is just “too crude” (which is what Lenin said of Stalin too), a real troll openly behaving as the proverbial elephant in the china shop (and that applies even more to Musk and Vance, who are openly supporting fascism in Europe these days).
Lithium is rare even at cosmic levels, mind you. It has to do with very interesting quantum mechanical issues that create a gap of rarity between helium (first made on Earth from the decay of lithium but extremely common up there) and carbon. The demand for lithium is now extremely high because of e-vehicle fever (not just Tesla but especially the Chinese much cheaper models) and also for laptops, e-phones, etc.
As I said before, ultimately it doesn’t matter that much how valuable are those resources (that’s too technical) but how Trump is smashing on that US sockpuppet regime, which has sacrificed maybe a million people to the US imperial proxy war, further burden that is outrageously colonialist. And he’s not doing that discreetly but openly, trollishly even. I’d say it fits his attitude towards Europe and I for one deviously welcome the slap, because it could maybe shatter the European political landscape, maybe even the Ukrainian one. But I still find it outrageously arrogant and a demand that should be totally rejected no matter the cost. Europe should just expel the USA altogether, disband NATO or expel the USA from the organization and bring the euro to compete with the USD in global markets directly. Easier said than that, I know, but the US stand is now weaker than it ever was and, with such an outrageous US colonialist attitude towards Europe, we can’t objectively do otherwise (we shouldn’t but we will bow, or rather our treacherous “leaders” will for us).
https://www.rt.com/news/613107-us-frustration-ukraine-zelensky/
Trump allies believe Zelensky should leave Ukraine ‘immediately’ – media
There is widespread opposition to the Ukrainian leader within the White House, according to the New York Post
Trump allies believe Zelensky should leave Ukraine ‘immediately’ –
Vladimir Zelensky should leave Ukraine “immediately” and move to France so as not to impede peace talks with Russia, a source close to US President Donald Trump has said, according to the New York Post. The outlet reported that frustration with Zelensky is growing in the White House.
Tensions between Washington and Kiev escalated this week after Zelensky criticized Trump for ending the period of diplomatic non-engagement with Russia. On Tuesday, US and Russian officials met in Saudi Arabia for high-level talks aimed at restoring ties and addressing the Ukraine conflict.
Zelensky has demanded a seat at the negotiating table, although Trump has said he and other Ukrainian officials are in no position to complain. He further blamed Zelensky for failing to resolve the conflict with Russia despite having years to do so.
A source familiar with White House discussions told the New York Post that the developments are “nothing new,” adding “I heard months ago it’s time for an election [in Ukraine] and new leadership.”
The source emphasized that opposition to Zelensky is widespread within the West Wing.
According to another person close to Trump, “the best case for [Zelensky] and the world is that he leaves to France immediately.”
Zelensky, whose presidential term expired in May 2024, has refused to hold a new election, citing martial law due to the ongoing conflict.
On Tuesday, Trump suggested that Zelensky’s leadership lacks legitimacy and that “he’s down at a 4% approval rating.” Trump later posted on his Truth Social platform that Zelensky “refuses to have Elections, is very low in Ukrainian Polls,” saying he “better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left.”
‘You should’ve never started’ this war – Trump to Zelensky
Read more ‘You should’ve never started’ this war – Trump to Zelensky
Zelensky responded by accusing Trump of repeating “Russian disinformation” and citing a presidential poll that has him at 57%. “If somebody wants to replace me right now, it will not happen,” he said.
An internal poll cited by The Economist on Wednesday suggested that Zelensky would lose to his former commander-in-chief, Valery Zaluzhny, by a large margin if elections were held in Ukraine today. According to data cited in the report, Zelensky “would lose a future election by 30% to 65% to Valery Zaluzhny,” if the latter ran for office. Zaluzhny currently serves as Ukraine’s ambassador to the UK.
Zelensky’s popularity skyrocketed to 90% during the first months of the conflict with Russia in 2022 but has since decreased due to mounting losses on the battlefield and problems with the economy.
Russia has also said it considers Zelensky “illegitimate” and recognizes the Ukrainian parliament and its speaker as the only legitimate authority in the country."–RT
If the Verkhovna Rada and its speaker didn't stand for election last year due to Zelensky's mandate, they wouldn't be legitimate officeholders.
Who do Western leaders expect to lead Ukraine and denazify and demilitarize to Russia's satisfaction? Trump or his minions have not given Moscow an indication they intend to remove US and NATO troops from Ukraine.
Trump won't be in Russia on May 9 for the March of the Immortal Regiment.
There is widespread opposition to the orange turd sucking up to Putin.
US envoy praises Zelenskyy after Trump's censure of the Ukrainian leader. https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/us-envoy-praises-zelenskyy-after-trumps-censure-ukrainian-119042949
UK Prime minister Starmer backs Zelensky after Trump calls him 'dictator'. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyrnjrjrr5o
So typical American, Zelensky is scum, a POS, the thing the American scum needed. Biden, Blinken, Nuland and all the other Biden administration and congressional scum knew Ukraine could not win a war with Russia but did not allow him to settle with Russia, they made him ask for ever more money and weapons, now they flush him down the toilet like used toilet tissue.
Sleazy politicians and sleazy billionaires don't need sleazy Zelenskyy.
You have no idea what is in the negotiations. Are you in the room? Do you talk to Putin?
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Selensky will sell these rights away for nothing. Why r the courageous Ukranians being led by clown
https://x.com/i/status/1893349767259828672
https://www.rt.com/news/613174-white-house-teases-ukraine-deal/
It's only speculation, but President Trump may be eyeing a large European and US troop presence in western Ukraine to protect what's been stolen by US multinational corporations via Zelensky's diktats from Ukrainian farmers and ranchers.
We're left to assume President Trump has implicitly tabled a potential nuclear reduction treaty with Russia and perhaps China.
President Volodymyr Zelensky may remain as America's puppet.
The narrative changes with the wind.
The Donald has very deep pockets….
”Render unto Caesar whai is Ceasers”….
https://www.rt.com/russia/613186-zelensky-resign-ukraine-nato/
I give Zelensky about two days of his life remaining.
The Donald has a unique sense of priorities….
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“how many roads must a man walk down, before he can call himself a man?”….
https://www.rt.com/russia/613186-zelensky-resign-ukraine-nato/
I give Zelensky about two days to remain alive.