On Wednesday, Trump administration officials defended the president’s surprise announcement on Tuesday night that he wants the US to “take over” and “own” the Gaza Strip but appeared to walk back some aspects of the plan.
Trump made the announcement after calling for Palestinians to be removed from Gaza “permanently,” which would mean ethnic cleansing, although he later suggested some Palestinians could live there along with “people of the world” after it was rebuilt by the US.
When asked for clarification on Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said, “They need to be temporarily relocated out of Gaza for the rebuilding.” She said the president had made it “very clear” that he expects Egypt and Jordan to take Palestinian refugees despite their strong opposition.
Leavitt added that it was “evil” to expect Palestinians to live in Gaza under the current conditions, which were created by the US-backed Israeli bombing campaign and siege.
A plan to “temporarily” relocate Palestinians from Gaza to Arab states would still face resistance since they wouldn’t think Israel would actually let the Palestinians return. Some analysts have suggested the idea of relocating part of Gaza’s population to the West Bank or Israel’s Negev Desert during reconstruction, but that does not appear to be under consideration by the US.
When asked on Tuesday night if his plan meant that he would deploy troops to Gaza, Trump said the US would do so if “necessary,” but Leavitt said he didn’t commit to the idea.
“It’s been made very clear to the president that the United States needs to be involved in this rebuilding effort to ensure stability in the region for all people,” Leavitt said. “That does not mean boots on the ground in Gaza. That does not mean American taxpayers will be funding this effort.”
Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who appeared to endorse Trump’s original plan on Tuesday night, also said on Wednesday that the idea was “temporary” relocation. He said the proposal “was not meant as hostile. It was meant as, I think, a very generous move — the offer to rebuild and to be in charge of the rebuilding.”
Trump’s envoy for the Middle East, Steve Witkoff, appeared to endorse the permanent removal of Palestinians from Gaza on Tuesday night, saying that a better life for the Palestinians is “not necessarily tied to the physical space that you are in today.”
On Wednesday, Witkoff reportedly told Senate Republicans that Trump “doesn’t want to put any US troops on the ground, and he doesn’t want to spend any US dollars at all.” He also said Trump had been “gestating” on the idea for some time, and other reports said it was an idea the president had been working on with his inner circle but was a surprise to many members of the administration.
National Security Advisor Mike Waltz suggested that Trump’s plan was meant to open negotiations. “The fact that nobody has a realistic solution, and he puts some very bold, fresh, new ideas out on the table, I don’t think should be criticized in any way. It’s going to bring the entire region to come up with their own solutions if they don’t like Mr. Trump’s solution,” he said.
In response to Waltz’s suggestion that regional countries should offer a solution, Grayzone reporter Aaron Mate pointed to the Arab Peace Initiative, which was first endorsed by the Arab League in 2002.
“Is Mike Waltz not aware that the Arab League has a two decade-old solution on the table? It’s called the Arab Peace Initiative: Israel gets full normalization in return for ending its occupation of the West Bank/Gaza and finally allowing a Palestinian state there, along with a “just resolution” to the refugee issue,” Maté wrote on X.
“Iran has also endorsed it. Nasrallah, before he was killed, said he wouldn’t stand in the way. The rest of the world supports it. It’s a major compromise for Palestinians, giving them just 22% of their historic homeland,” Maté added. “Only Israel and the US oppose this otherwise universally supported solution, rooted in international law and UNSC measures. If the Trump admin is looking for a bold fresh idea, look no further than dropping US-Israeli longstanding hostility to a major Arab compromise.”
Trump’s proposal was resoundingly rejected by the Arab world, including Palestinians living in Gaza, who don’t want to give up their homes even as they lie in ruin. Saudi Arabia rejected Trump’s claim that it would normalize with Israel without the establishment of a Palestinian state and said it opposed any effort to displace Palestinians.
“Saudi Arabia also reiterates its previously announced unequivocal rejection of any infringement on the legitimate rights of the Palestinian people, whether through Israeli settlement policies, the annexation of Palestinian lands, or attempts to displace the Palestinian people from their land,” the Saudi Foreign Ministry said.
"They need to be temporarily relocated out of Gaza for the rebuilding." That is just stupid. Why would they need to be relocated during rebuilding? Workers of all type will be needed.
The Palestinians are not going to fall for the "temporarily relocated" bit.
There’s no infrastructure. There are unexploded ordnance, probably mines too. It’s unsafe.
It’s not entirely a trap.
The most dangerous thing Palestinians and Iran could do is to meet regularly, as frequently as possible, with Trump to explain their perspectives and to provide their evidence.
Trump isn’t a devil, isn’t Satan. If they meet with him, he’ll be kindly.
Trump is ignorant, racist, and imperialist about the Levant.
Israel has a powerful lobby in the US, and he’s from NY.
The most dangerous thing you can do is talk to him.
Calling him names and sulking in the dark won’t change matters.
The Levant is foreign. Most people are ignorant of the Levant.
The US is obviously imperialist, as is Turkey.
I don’t know that Trump is truly racist. You might find him sympathetic if explaining how locals need basic necessities.
He also likes when people read his book, Art of the Deal.
He knows what he is doing. Wants to expand the territory of Israel by clearing the land from people.
This is exactly what that mini-Bibi tried to do in Eastern Ukraine. Another group of undesirable populationn to be removed from the land. But Russia was not going to absorb the population.
Turkey iis minding its own business. Cannot have a PKK state in Syria. Curtesy of US and yet another example of wanting the land for the imperial pets, but not the population that actually lives there.
Trump ran on the platform of stopping American entanglements and money drain overseas. .
Yet, his Imperial plan is eye-poppingly impressive. He will rebuild Gaza using the money he will save by wrecking hundreds of thousands of American lives in his seat-of-the-pants RIF binge. If he indeed wanted to reform Federal Givernment bureacracy, it would have been done responsibly . Among other things by actually PROMOTING remote work and selling excess buildings.
Fortunatelly for Lords of Money he collected around humself — there is plenty of government stupidity to make people applaud Musk.
But while pointing out regime change evils of USAID, they attack a small agency that protects consumers from banking fraud and overreach. Figure that out!
We craved change, elected with eyes wide open the wrecking ball. He certainly did not dissapoint so far. Just another Wednesday morning in the Empire.
Elon Musk is a big critic of remote work. I’ve talked with some people about it, and I hear that it sometimes works well and sometimes does not.
When an employee is judged on results, it works, is what I was told anyway.
Elon Musk is a flawed human, but he’s one of the great managers. He sees flaws in remote work.
Bloated bureaucracy is a problem in the US.
Inevitably, mistakes will be made. I don’t trust Rubio. We’ll see what happens. Good with bad, as always.
Remote work has to be seen for what it is and what it is not. Any manager who cannot manage remote work should not be a manager. When a workplace is chaotic and people litteraly from day to day do not know what is their job is not a good workplace period. If a place depwnds on some supervisor hovering over an employee shoulder, and day to day changes his/her mind on what has to be accomplished — is a louusy manager. Such managers need to be fired, as they seek petty power, not results.
Today, even the most complex teams work together on projects remotely. Meetings remotely, task management remotely. One does not need office space to collaborate, chat, problem solve.
Musk is not a good manager. He thrves on chaos. He has good people who manage and hope he keeps away for a bleeding minute to let everyone get some work done.
Look at track record of his self-drivng Tesla, SpaceX soectaclularly sparse product output as compared to his outsized vision.
Or that horror show called Neuralink.
What is stopping him from returning Boeing crew from space station? Those two arrived for eight days and are now there for over six months
Just look at the struggle both Musk and Bezos are facing in trying to produce heavy lift first phase rocket enginine. To finally retire a quarter century old Russian heavy duty engine RD-180. Having not managed to replicate it, both Musk and Bezis are strapping together multiple weaker engines. Hmm. What can go wrong?
Musk is part of the problem — all those AI based performance metrics to evaluate employee work, firing bottom ten percent, all the nonsense that guarantees sucess to oeople good at those games, but often works against people vith imagination and synthesis capabiilities. With all the corporate spending and bluster US is falling behind in science annd technology.
Add to this the panic over commercial real estate sitting vacant — his concern over remote work has more to do with kicking the can down the road on banks eating commercial real estate losses.
He is a good salesman, I give him that. When it comes to everything else, I am still waiting for this genius to produce something to justify the label.
My thoughts on remote work in the context of DOGE.
And as are neolibs. On the other site, while railing about Trump’s racism, people there are downvoting quotes from MLK and Nelson Mandela on Palestine. You can’t make this shit up. Somehow they believe they are the antiracists while fully endorsing it.
Luchorpan has been advocating ethnic cleansing for months under the guise of humanitarian concern.
It’s like the “humanitarian mission” in Libya.
I could not believe the words that came out of the press secretary's mouth about leaving the Palestinians in Gaza is "evil" Doesn't she realize that the US contributed actually facilitated that evil with our bombs and money? And that Israel our "love partner" carried it out with glee?
It’s fluffy words for stupid people.
Yet, Palestinians are there now as we speak. There are plenty of places they can build tents and temporary structures, health facilities, and no humanitarian assistance blocked as per usual. Rebuilt one section at a time. Needing to move all Palestinians outvif the country for reconstruction — is insane. .
Well, he’ll probably settle on allowing some to leave. Reducing the number, especially of reproductive age youths, is in Israeli interests.
Putting the US in charge takes Israel out of the crosshairs, but I doubt the US would restrict aid. So, it’s not necessarily bad for Palestinians.
Thanks for realism.
Your instincts are correct to support Trump. He’s doing a lot of good, though inevitably will make mistakes. We wanted change, wanted a “regular guy.” Well, this is he. This is it.
People just need to praise him where correct, criticise where wrong.
There’s no good answer to Israel. The Palestinians are more in the right, and the Israelis are stronger.
The US ideally should want out entirely. But the destruction is on Biden.
There’s no good answer to Israel. The Palestinians are more in the right, and the Israelis are stronger.
Sure there is and it's simple. Cut them off.
The US ideally should want out entirely. But the destruction is on Biden.
But Trump won't o what the US 'ideally" should do either. And if he doesn't punish Israel for what Biden allowed, then he's condoning it and now it's on him.
"It’s not entirely a trap." Of curse it is. Once they are kicked out of Gaza their not coming back. See the war of 1948.
They’ll return eventually, if they wish to. I’m not a believer in Israel. Dust to dust; nothing lasts.
That was the whole point of the war…destroy the infrastructure to make it uninhabitable.
Efforts to get back the hostages was a minor side-show.
We are not going to fall for any of your posts.
Hey how did your fictitious trade war go? Canada gave in, Mexico gave in.
And what did Canada give in? Trump backed down, he got nothing significantly from his actions. Once again Trump showed he is a coward when facing major push back. See the bombing of an US air base under trump. He was afraid of Iran. Still is.
"'temporarily relocate [Gazans] for…rebuilding'? That is just stupid."
Yea, fuck a ceasefire – with more 1000 lb U.S. bombs, why can't israel just keep murdering Palestinians, huh tim?
Like that Jenin 2-year-old shot in the head inside her home, huh tim?
RIGHT BETWEEN THE FUCKING EYES, HUH, TIM?
Aaron Maté is son of a Holocaust survivor. I wasn't aware of that until some time ago, even if I wholly respect him as journalist (previously in The Real News Network, now in the Grayzone).
However we all know that the "two state solution" is nothing but the name of endless Apartheid, a failed promise. The only real solution is a unified Palestine from the river to the sea, secular and non-racist, with whole right of return for the 14 million Palestinians scattered by the conflict (half of them living in extremely hard conditions in Palestine itself to present day).
I don’t know if it was Aaron, his brother or father, but one mentioned 2 state as a path to 1.
Your plan is good providing a third party administration would be above them all, like it was in time of Ottoman Empire or as it was in Russian Empire. For example in Vilnius, which is now the capital of Lithuania, at the end of 19th century, 40% of population belonged to Judaism, 40% to Catholicism, and 20% to Orthodox Christianity. They coexisted okay.
There is another way, I guess: the USA stops protecting Israel. It will happen sooner than later and alone, the racist colony is pretty much defenseless: a tiny beach head the size of Albania.
I mean mentioned by you option, unified Palestine, with peaceful coexistence of different religious groups (one of them is radically anti-Christian) is possible only under a strong third party administration.
Today I watched the president of the USA sit next to a war criminal and pronounce our support for the final solution for the Palestinian people as a people with a homeland.
It makes me ashamed of this country and everything it has come to stand for.
It would be much better for Trump if he never engages in foreign policy. One blunder after other. Why not just stop providing Israel with weapons and leave to UN to sort out the rest? There are plenty of UN resolutions on this issue. Just stop sabotaging them. That's all what needs to be done.
However, this is what he actually wants. Musk, the co-Emperor is securing funds for this real estate adventure. No more letting those pesky laws getting in the way.
Does anyone believe that he has not meant what he said? “Some Palestinians may be allowed back”, along with other “citizens of the world”. Only global citizens need apply.
He has “softened” the rhetoric, but the intent is the same. Probably someone read Nuremburg Convention to Trump.
If Trump wants to make America great again or, at least, retain some of it's current greatness, he has chosen a counterproductive way. It looks he grossly underestimates the power of other countries (great and not so great). If he is successful in his Gaza ethnic cleansing plan, the geopolitical damage to U.S. would be much greater than any possible advantage.
USA will willingly sacrifice itself on the Israeli altar…. Led to that altar by aipac bribed US politicians
Traditionally in Anglo-Saxon civilization, big capitalists are in charge of foreign policy. In U.S. that group of people is definitely pro-Zionist. Most of them are ethnically connected to Israel.
Sounds like talks I read about in the 1930s.
I’m becoming more convinced that the US Empire has given over to a Zionist Israeli Empire. We just pay for it.
And plenty support for such madness. Today there is an article on AT that US empire expansion is a good thing and should be encouraged. The US should be the empire of the world which according to the author would bring peace, stability and morality to the world.
Far too much talk about empire all over, therefore one must take it seriously.
What is AT? Sorry for the ignorance.
I was wondering that, too. I guess you're not going to get an answer……
If you are talking about AT it stands for "American Thinker" I am sorry. i usually do not reply until the evening to posts.
Thanks!
Sorry about that. It stands for "American Thinker". they used to be thinkers years ago and have fallen into a Christian nationalist Trump only site. but it is interesting to see what others think adn do.
We have homelessness and desperate people here.
But instead let’s build luxury condos for Israelis over the graves of children.
“America First”.
Try to cite a foreign policy failure, that would be fun.
I am all for not giving Israel more weapons.
Are you one of those who believe U.S. was successful in Afghanistan and Ukraine? Or maybe in Palestine?
Can you explain why Trump held Satanyahu's chair? Is he is subordinate to Satanyahu or what? If he is, it is a great foreign policy failure.
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Well you buddy trump just sent more to Israel. Just wait to trump approves Israel's annexing of more of the West Bank.
That is not going to happen.
Trumps plan might just work but will need a partnership with the UN. To make it work he will have to reach out to representatives of the Palestinians and if certain guarantees are given then it's feasible.
One thing for sure Israel will have to come up with billions which could be offset with Israeli firms involved in the reconstruction.
Larry's idea has a problem. It's difficult to see how Trump's original rhetoric does not strongly suggest excluding Palestinians from their homeland permanently despite all subsequent efforts to "walk back" implications in what he said. No wonder Net was so happy. If all of it was some kind of clever ploy on Trump's part how come he didn't more deftly handle this issue? The subtext suggests real estate deal, and couched in self-serving look how wonderful I am language. Most people are not fooled by his sanctimonious BS.
This was meant to be a response to Thomas Malthaus's link to Sonar 21 above.
Moat people are not fooled by your rhetoric.
When a plan is formulated then comment on it, instead of making up rhetoric interpretations.
Instead of this bluster why don't you indicate where you personally are not fooled? On what point?
When a plan is formulated then comment on it, instead of making up rhetoric interpretations.
Do you mean like Trump's press secretary just did?
Thanks for some rare realism here. Most commenters here pretend that the problems there started with Trump.
Most commenters here pretend that the problems there started with Trump.
No, they don't. You just keep accusing them of that whenever they criticize Trump. The vast majority of people here bitched about Biden/Harris constantly.
"The vast majority of people here bitched about Biden/Harris constantly." There's no way he doesn't know that by now. Which makes him the "propagandist" that he accuses others of being on this page.
Israel never comes up with money. It’s all US funding.
Trumps plan might just work. It will not work for the Palestinians.
https://sonar21.com/what-is-trump-really-thinking-about-gaza/
That seems realistic.
Trump thinks? Do you really believe that?
USA is acting as if the destruction of Gaza was due to some natural calamity like an earthquake and the benevolent US is coming in to provide some relief. The reality is that the USA inflicted that "earthquake"
Reminds me of at the end of the assault on USS Liberty, when the Israelis couldn't complete and sink the ship, the Israelis then asked the survivors if they needed any help. The crew members responded: "FU".
Trump did not inflict that earthquake.
He backed it completely. He even bitched about Biden/Harris NOT backing it sufficiently enough (see below). And his gifting of Israel his first term certainly didn't help.
Trump:
"From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel's hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire…which would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new October 7 style attack."
"I will give Israel the support that it needs to win but I do want them to win fast," he added.
Trump went on to threaten to arrest what he called "pro-Hamas thugs" and "jihad sympathizers."
They were simply different means toward the same end.
Like you said, Honey/Biden v. Bull Sh*t/Trump.
Wars r u s confirms it.
Wars didn’t confirm it. Trump was not enthusiastic about what was going on. He just positions himself as pro-Israeli.
It didn’t happen under his watch regardless.
Houthis as terrorists will be under Trump if that happens. He’s guilty of what he does, not for what wars thinks he supports.
Trump:
"From the start, Harris has worked to tie Israel's hand behind its back, demanding an immediate ceasefire, always demanding ceasefire…which would only give Hamas time to regroup and launch a new October 7 style attack."
"I will give Israel the support that it needs to win but I do want them to win fast," he added.
I confirmed Trump backed the "earthquake". Those are HIS words not mine. I don't have to confirm whether he was enthusiastic about it or not.That's your job since I assume you think that must exonerate him.
He likes to position himself as pro-Israeli. It’s talk… And the great evil in Palestine has been that it has gone on for so long. Starvation and water deprivation, among other deprivations, have been used as policy.
If a man is grinding children in a wood chipper, and you tell him to stop, that it looks bad; you’re not somehow complicit…
He likes to position himself as pro-Israeli. It’s talk
He gifted Israel more in his first term than any other president in history. And he's starting his second term the same way. That isn't talk, it's action.
If a man is grinding children in a wood chipper, and you tell him to stop, that it looks bad; you’re not somehow complicit…
If a man is grinding children with a woodchipper (2,000 lb. bombs, 1,000 lb. bombs, armored bulldozers) and you tell him to stop it would have more meaning if you didn't provide him with more woodchippers (2,000 lb. bombs, 1,000 lb. bombs, armored bulldozers).
The Gaza campaign is over, that chapter is anyway. Trump can’t acknowledge that Israel shouldn’t have dropped those bombs, but he can tell them not to do it again while he’s in office.
Sure, he could have acknowledged that Israel shouldn't have dropped those bombs. I'm always amazed at how Trump is supposed to be different and yet he's doing the same shit as his predecessors (including himself). And wouldn't it be easier just not to provide them with those bombs?
He shouldn’t have provided the bombs. We can make a list, and it sounds like “war,” if you can call it that, is opening back up in Gaza soon.
But he’s guilty of what he does. That’s all I’m saying.
If those Gazans are sent to Europe where they can vote and ascend the ladder, they could eventually become powerful.
I’m just saying.
Many thanks for your research, you back up what we believe and stand for.
I've been saving Trump quotes for years. Here's one of my favorites:
"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided."
I bet you're thinking 2020. Nope. It's a tweet from 2012 after Obama beat Romney. Of course, he wasn't as adamant about that election as he was in 2020 and he didn't incite a riot back then either.
Dems say the same thing all the time. Schumer threatens the Supreme Court.
You are disinformation today.
What are you talking about? Nothing I said was "disinformation".
We have a politicized SC, that is very bad for any real, fair, and just functioning democracy the basis for real democracies.
Schumer failed the nation he should have been screaming from the roof tops about the corruption of the SC and the influence of the extreme right wing Federal Society.
Dereliction of duty is Schumer's crime.
He learned since then, Musk is his new gun.
That may backfire, Musk does not like playing the second violin.
He wanted it over with. That’s partly why he wanted the refugees freed. The refugees were Israel’s justification.
Trump had to speak in a way that supports Israel, but he did not like what was going on.
Bullshit. No one is forced to kiss ass. They do it willingly.
You want to convince yourself that Trump is a good man, you voted for him because you do believe in him, and many people feel like you.
I knew older generation Germans who could never accept Hitler did what he did, decades later they would say that he did not know, if he had, it would not have happened.
Trump was tilling the soil to inflict the brutal genocide massacre's on defenseless civilians some 70% women and children including newborn infants and toddlers.
Just a day ago Netanyahu expressed all his and the Israeli's gratitude to Trump for being the best friend Israel ever had.
You prefer not to know that. Or maybe you know Netanyahu is a liar.
At the press conference of Trump and Netanyahu I saw two" very evil and insane men", both out to serve their personal interests and to HELL with the people, they are to be used to serve them not the other way around.
Trump just didn’t do it.
The communists did it under Biden. It’s a left wing genocide. Trump ended it. Now, the question is how to rebuild.
There is no left wing. What communists under Biden are you talking about?
Trump had different geopolitical conditions, he approved the illegal annexation of the Golan, moving the American embassy to Jerusalem, and supported sanctions against Gaza and settlements on the WB, and all the human rights abuses the whole world knew about. Netanyahu said it, Trump is Israel's best friend to be nice he did not mention Biden.
All of them are war criminals, mass killers.
Trump did it too, not once did he mention the human rights of the Palestinian people. Trump is a killer conman, for a pies of beach property he will kill, or pay others to do it for him. He is a killer on par with the elected, applauding congress officials.
Trump correctly complained about the bad optics, wanted it to stop.
He wanted the bad optics to stop because it was bad PR. And you defend THAT? He stated what he wanted done. "FINISH THE JOB".
He wasn’t saying, “kill them all.” The publicly stated “job” was the impossible task of destroying Hamas or at least freeing the hostages.
Your “evidence” is just rhetoric…
Yes, he wanted the "bad optics" to stop. But he also wanted Israel to "FINISH THE JOB". How can you not see WHY he wanted the bad optics to stop? It sure as fuck wasn't because he cared about the Palestinians.
It puts a lie to the Biden camp’s bullshit that the Israelis were careful in avoiding civilians and civilian infrastructure, and that they were using precise targeting. Even though we all knew the truth.
Even though msm played along then, how do they not report now that this operation was clearly genocidal in intent?
It’s insane.
Adding: how f-king hypocritical are the Europeans for denouncing their own handy work, supporting Israel’s genocide? “Oh no, no ethnic cleansing”, but anyone who complained or protested against this mass destruction were lying antisemites.
If the place is rubble, it’s on them.
Yes. The same people who visit Holocaust museums and call others Nazis etc just partook in the intentional destruction of Palestine’s infrastructure and heritage sites.
The same people who either talk of supporting mass immigration to end racism or in opposing it to preserve their heritage in Europe just destroyed Palestinians’ heritage.
Where do you go from here? They’re already planning new crimes in other parts of the world.
Israel is in a similar dilemma with the Palestinians. They can’t live together in a single state after shooting children and withholding food and water, raping and torturing, etc.
Israel is too strong. It’s a, “this place isn’t big enough for the both of us” situation.
It's another of Trump’s wacky ideas, a trial bloon.
It's another one of your wacky posts. We see that you were unable to cite a single "wacky" thing in what was a preliminary statement of policy.
Trump has no coherent policy, he signed and is implementing "project 2025" EOs, that is his preliminary statement of policy.
Trump has no coherent policy, he signed and is implementing "project 2025" EOs, that is his preliminary statement of policy.
Make the GENOCIDE STATE PAY FOR THE CRUEL
& OUTRAGEOUS DAMAGE THEY'VE DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bullcrap…! They can stay in Gaza in one area while other areas are re-built…!
… And Egypt and Jordan made it "very clear" they oppose to the stupid idea…!
Also temporarily located refugees in Jordan and Lebanon and Gaza, all have a right to return to their homeland, they are still waiting. For almost a century they have been denied their right to return home.
But Almighty Trump will change that with lifting his little finger and opening his big MOUTH. If he says so, they all dance to his tune.
They are vassals who just lost USAID.
You never know how threats of pulling $$, or conversely, giving more $$ in the region, will change minds. They are all hoars (intentional misspelling)
But when Trump says it it is meaningless anyway, only mentally sick people believe a word he says, that does make him even more dangerous plus his kind of appointments, many "project 2025" people.
Biden was equally dangerous, if not more so, because he covered shit with honey.
Look back on his cult: “He’s a decent man. He feels bad about the deaths. He’s working night and day for a cease fire” (while supplying massive arms and intelligence support). They bought it all.
If the Democratic Party really feared and cared about project 2025, they wouldn’t have kept a genocidal non compos mentis walking corpse in office, denying it, and then pushing it along until there was no choice of opposition other than a scattered word salad incompetent (that no one voted for or wanted, who said nothing would change from Biden).
The cherry on top was sending slick Willie to campaign in a swing state to lecture Muslims that Israel was righteous killing Palestinians.
It looks like the Democrats took an intentional dive as dictated by the uniparty masters.
My take goes a might further: the Democratic party is all dodge and hustle, corrupted beyond repair.
I fully agree with what you said, one little difference, where Biden used honey Trump is using Bull Sh*t.
I noticed MSNBC is changing their tone, suddenly they appear to notice that the Democrats threw their constituents under the bus and now start to realize project 2025 is taking on shape, the Trump cartel is implementing it.
I may be wrong, I only caught a few minutes of Lawrence what is his name, and a few minutes of an interview of one former Republican and a democratic party strategist.
Biden is the mask that people on this site saw through, but not his obediant followers. Trump is mask off, getting right down to brass tacks, with a transparent wink and a nod, that everyone gets (minus a few MAGAs, but most of them know).
But when Trump says it it is meaningless anyway, only mentally sick people believe a word he says, that does make him even more dangerous plus his kind of appointments, many "project 2025" people.
It is – indeed – all about the Benjamins. Which raises the question of how many potentates are in charge on planet Earth who are not corrupt pieces of shit.
Laughable…!
Giving them a nice place to live with productive jobs is laughable to you.
When Trump says it, it is laughable, what do you expect from Trump?
When Trump says it, it is laughable, what do you expect from Trump?
I would bet you would go nuts if the nice place to live was next to you.
Not laughable, you are right, it is a pretty brutal sadistic way to pretend to give them productive jobs, it is enough to make you throw up.
I am sure you agree.
Just a reminder, Gaza has been sanctioned for decades, the people were never allowed to have a functioning economy and live a normal life. That is why there was an October 7 in the first place. So the sick Zionist Israelis should stop the lies, there is no excusing the insane, sadistic massacre of the Palestinian people just so insane killers can take what does not belong to them, despicable, enough to make one puke.
Trump was speaking figuratively, but the author cannot grasp that.
He said what he said. He used the word "permanently". I don't know how one uses that word figuratively.
No he was not. What you can not grasp is that he means what he says. Same problem in Germany in 1930s, people just assumed Hitler was talking figuratively about certain groups. As history shows he was not.
Experience tells us to take what he says seriously. Trump is not normal, he means what he says no matter how outlandish it is. He may forget what he meant and said, that is the real problem, but when he says it he means it, he is a compulsive liar, not even he knows what he said and what he meant when he said it.
Here is what President Trump should have proposed. "We will clear Gaza of the rubble and bombs. We will rebuild housing for 3 million Palestinians. Meanwhile, we will temporarily house all of Gaza's Palestinians, except workers needed, in the USA". (preferably in Florida and Texas).
do you have any idea how expensive the transport would be
It would be cheaper than the many 2000 pound bombs, part of the cost of the demolition, lots of dangerous duds and bodies are still berried under millions of tons of rubble.
flying 2 million people by plane?
Well flying and dropping bombs costs money. How many flights did it take to drop how many 2000 pound bombs on tent cities and rubble and they are not yet done? Of course container ships could be used.
If they would really want to do it, they could. Who would have thought they would execute the most cruel genocide imaginable?
its a million more unrealistic than the illegals to guantanaomo
Well, Almighty Trump can snap his little finger and voila the Gazan people are all gone, never to return, Trump said so.
You forgot to mention, "we will pay for all of it, using the profit MIC made."
He just went to the Pacific Palisades and condemned the mayor for not allowing the people to clean up their own rubble, delaying a rebuild. Not that I think the mayor did an adequate job.
But look at the contrast. The Palestinians would be even more motivated to clear the destruction. FFS, they have been digging by hand to find their dead relatives.
Temporary housing like trailers or tents can work. They have been surviving in tents for very long now. Repair water infrastructure and permit aid unencumbered by Israelis and the IDF. Give them the tools to work.
If he actually wanted “peace” and not the stupidest sales pitch for morons to buy, the US would guard against any Israeli presence in Gaza.
Editing to add: Hamas has said from the beginning that their conditions to stop all aggression would be for Israel to end occupation.
Just like his first term. He didn't really mean what he just fucking said.
What does she know anyway, she is a waste of time and money, who needs another stupid press secretary?
Trump never had a coherent policy, he shoots from the hip any time he feels like, never considering possible consequences, he is an immature, insane adult spoiled brat. There are no words to adequately describe the Trump chaos administration.
It is a plan. The US has always used chaos against other countries. Now it is directed inward.
I hope I am wrong, but I can see bloody riots in the US/NATO alliance nations by 2026 when the consequences are coming home to roost.
People are still so deeply brainwashed. It’s insane.
Musk is implementing "project 2025" Trump said he does not support it before he was elected. So far as I understand it, they Trump and Musk together want to privatize the whole government.
Musk shouldn’t be the person making these decisions.
He works for Trump, Trump is incapable, too old and demented, he thinks on the level of a 5th grader, Musk is younger and a more sophisticated crazy, criminal con-artist.
I think Musk is a limited hangout, a construct.
You may be right, giving time we will see how it ends. I can see them getting on each others throat.
Now there is no difference from the Biden Administration. Every time he said something that was not on the teleprompter the press secretary adn otehr WH officials came out explaining what he really said or did not say.
So now the same thing is going on with Trump. They are falling over themselves explaining what Trump meant or said or did not say.
Guess what? Trump meant it since his first Administration. he loved Kushner's idea of a Gaza beachfront paradise for International elites.
The gullibility of both cults is fully on display.
The gullibility of both cults is fully on display.
And give Israel access to the off shore oil.
Gaza will become the new Vegas or Catskills with Kushner’s real estate he becomes the new Adelsons
Gaza in W. Asia not Las Vegas, Nevada.
Trump did not make it with his Atlanta casino adventure, one of his six bankruptcies.
It was too outlandish to take it seriously, Greenland and the Panama canal and Gaza are unbelievable, we must learn to take that nonsense seriously, the man is not normal, he is as crazy as Biden.
Biden was half senile.
Trump is a sick psychopath.
So true, but it makes no difference, the result is much the same, total disaster and unbelievable misère for the Palestinian people. And I can see the suffering of future Israelis, the delayed stress syndrome will take a big toll on future Israeli generations. They do teach their children to hate, that too has a price.
What was the other half?
Psychopath, lol.
Psychopaths are gone. Trump is dismanteling the fascist Atlantic empire, which is good for the world. Fascist Atlantic elites have coopted the (woke) left like they did in 1930s Germany with the NSDAP.
This Netyanahu plan was already accepted by the Biden admin in May. His daughter and son in law Kushner are harming his presidency.
If Democrats had won we would be closer to nuclear war with Russia today. Thank god for Trump.
Trump thinks on a 5th grade level. He is an irrational, unpredictable adult and a compulsive liar. He has yet to produce a rational policy, what is the goal and how can it be realized? It never crossed his mind to even think about it. He is impulsive and will jump of the bridge knowing he can't swim.
Did you ever hear a word of wisdom from Trump or Biden? They do have a lot in common, both are ignorant and demented.
Biden was absolutely a psychopath. It’s often a strength in competition for power.
The same is true of Trump, he is not normal.
When you read about the US, you have to remember you live in communist Germany. It’s like a mental hospital. It’s the equivalent of having only Fox News access in the US.
It’s not really that crazy. Panama agreed to exit out of its agreement with China.
China has been building infrastructure in Panama.
The arctic has been a focus of China and Russia. The US wants in.
I’m not saying it all really matters though, because deep sea mining is probably taking off this decade. That will make many land mines unprofitable for a bit. It will also drop the price of gold, among other things. Deflation but the good sort.
Mexico is also apparently building a competitor to Panama, albeit not a canal but a train. I don’t know if it will be completed, just glanced at it.
The US REGIME IS CONFRONTATIONAL.
The ruling elite is determined to rule and own the planet. They are insane and very brutal without any morals and no respect for other nations rights.
I notice that for Trump and other millionaires like Musk people don't count, Trump can't relate to the feeling of home the Palestinians feel and know, they are big families and close together, values that mean nothing to people like Trump and Musk. Money and power is the only value Trump understands, he is a very limited human being.
Hopefully, he’s sincere about giving Gazans a future somewhere. They need money. They have nothing.
I hate to say it, but Trump is not sincere, he is a compulsive liar, a conman and vindictive. Not uncommon among billionaires and politicians.
Khan Younis, Gaza Strip, Palestine – Leaning on a wooden cane, 72-year-old Fathi Abu al-Saeed navigates the rubble-strewn streets of Khan Younis’s al-Katiba neighbourhood – a daily ritual since he returned from displacement in the coastal region of al-Mawasi following the January 19 Gaza ceasefire. Carefully stepping over debris left by 15 months of relentless Israeli bombardment, he raises his cane, pointing at a demolished house.
[[“You see that pile of useless rubble?” he says. “That’s more precious than the United States and everything in it.”]]
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/5/trump-is-a-madman-palestinian-in-gaza-mocks-us-presidents-takeover-plan
Call it the TrumpTrump’s declaration. Once again the Palestinians do not cont or exist in the empiral minds.
President Donald Trump said he will cut all funding to South Africa over what he called a human rights violation, a move that reflects Elon Musk’s repeated and false claims over the years that authorities in his country of birth are anti-white and even encouraging the killing of white people
https://apnews.com/article/trump-elon-musk-south-africa-aid-freeze-69f81617f8aea157eac0cc021e1b1556
It is a pipe dream plan. It is why Russian news is not harping on it. It is dead on arrival, unsustainable. The Russians have bigger fish-to-fry that having its newscasters exploit the topic.
Question #1 What Arab nation supports it?
Saudi Arabia,UAE,Quatar,Jordan,Egypt? None, zero, zip."Witkoff…said Trump had been 'gestating' on [a Gaza plan] some time"…
…before laying the particularly foul-smelling egg?
re: UNSC 242
For the past 50 plus years, a United Nations Security Council resolution has helped to sustain Israel’s occupation of Palestine . . UN Security Council Resolution 242, Article 1 adopted on November 22, 1967. ."Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force" . . Israel discounted the withdrawal verbiage and settled on "recognized boundaries free from threats" saying the boundaries for Israel are ancient Palestine's border.
"…he later suggested some Palestinians could live there along with “people of the world” after it was rebuilt by the US."
People of the world meaning "Israeli settlers", who will need some meagre Palestinians as gardeners, housekeepers, farm workers, maybe even "House Arabs" if they can be trusted with the silverware.
**k off Final President Trump – you know this scam all too well. I know it too – my local telcomm giant pulls it.
I'm in a "grandfathered" sweet cable deal where Package A only costs $40/month. Telcomm offers a 3-month $25/month Package B with a couple more channels. So you switch to Package B.
In 3 months, Package B reverts to its "normal" $60/month. But telcomm company discontinued Package A, and Package B is now its new baseline offering. You got tricked out, and can't go back in.
Trump's Gaza plan is exactly this.
And he knows it.
Trump talks like a 5th grader, I don't think he knows much of anything, he is pretty ignorant. People don't exist in his thinking, as limited as he is. He is an outstanding con artist covering up his ignorance.
For some reason Maju keeps ignoring me because he thinks i'm a nazi-apologist
What do I do?
I'm a libertarian socialist!
Living inside your land is Evil… Living outside your land is Good…!
Karoline Leavitt should quit white house and sell her Barbie doll lookalike on eBay instead…!
Another words… the criminal minister failed miserably in Gaza… Now it's US turn to take over and fail miserably again…!
Only if this statement goes through the US government deaf ears…!