On Saturday, President Trump suggested the idea of “cleaning out” Palestinians from Gaza and sending them to Egypt and Jordan, raising fears that the US may support the ethnic cleansing of the territory.
The president told reporters on Air Force One that moving Palestinians to the two Arab states could be either “temporary” or “long-term.” He said he discussed the idea with Jordan’s King Abdullah in a call they held on Saturday.
“I said to him, ‘I’d love you take on more,’ because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess. It’s a real mess,” Trump said, adding that he planned to discuss the idea with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi on Sunday.
“You’re talking about a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing,” Trump said. “It’s literally a demolition site. Almost everything is demolished, and people are dying there, so I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing at a different location where they can maybe live in peace for a change.”
Jordan, which has a large population of Palestinian refugees, most of whom have citizenship, rejected Trump’s idea in comments on Sunday. “Our principles are clear, and Jordan’s steadfast position to uphold the Palestinians’ presence on their land remains unchanged and will never change,” Jordanian Foreign Minister Ayman Safadi told reporters.
Egypt and the Arab League later put out statements rejecting Trump’s idea. “The forced displacement and eviction of people from their land can only be called ethnic cleansing,” the Arab League said.
Hamas also responded to Trump’s comments, calling on the administration to “abandon these proposals, which align with Israeli plans and clash with the rights and free will of our people” and “work to enable the Palestinian people to achieve their freedom and establish their independent state with Jerusalem as its capital.”
Media reports have said the Trump administration has discussed the idea of “temporarily” locating Palestinians in Gaza during reconstruction. According to NBC News, the administration has discussed sending them to Indonesia, although Jakarta said it was unaware of such plans.
Many elements of the Israeli government want ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the establishment of Jewish settlements in the territory. Israeli politician Itamar Ben Gvir, leader of the Jewish Power party, who just resigned from the government over the ceasefire deal, welcomed Trump’s comments. Ben Gvir frames his desire for ethnic cleansing as “voluntary migration.”
Ben Gvir wrote on X: “Congratulations to US President Trump on the initiative to transfer residents from Gaza to Jordan and Egypt. One of our demands from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is to encourage voluntary immigration, and when the president of the world’s largest power, Trump, himself raises the idea, it would be wise for the Israeli government to implement it – encourage immigration now!”
Some members of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party are also openly in favor of ethnic cleansing in Gaza. May Golan, a Likud member who serves as the minister for Social Equality and the Advancement of the Status of Women, recently called for a second “Nakba” in Gaza, referring to the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948 during the establishment of the modern state of Israel.
In October 2023, a document prepared by Israel’s Intelligence Ministry that was leaked to the media said the best post-war scenario for Israel would be the expulsion of all Palestinians living in Gaza.
I’m surprised they aren’t going to expel West Bank too, everything in one go.
They are doing that now.
Trump was the first one to sign the Gaza Genocide already in 2017: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170624-saudi-prince-reveals-us-conditions-for-mohamed-bin-salman-to-be-king/
For whatever reason the plan was delayed but he's compromised anyhow (and has absolutely zero ethics on that matter… or any other I know of).
President Trump acts as an economist, businessman, construction and real estate entrepreneur, show master, regarding Gaza in order to drive the Palestinians out of a stony desert. Is he making money from building housing for the Palestinians?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trump_Organization
https://millercenter.org/president/trump/life-in-brief
https://www.trump.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9AKA0PYiGCSPqfCEMaKtag The Trump Organization
https://glaad.org/trump-accountability-tracker/
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/trump-likely-benefited-from-13-6-million-in-payments-from-foreign-governments-during-his-presidency/
He’s already made bank from crypto. I doubt he wants involvement in profits there.
But he’s cleaning out Palestine it sounds like.
"But he’s cleaning out Palestine it sounds like."
He is advocating a serious war crime.
The Israelis are already behaving like some mad Roman emperor or Mongolian Khan.
The worst crime is destroying their homes, starving out various states, depriving of water, etc. It’s being used against multiple states.
As I said before, I hope I’m never weak enough to face such treatment. I’d move!
He just freed 1500 criminals, so what would he care about a war crime?
Today 1.5m people
Start of conflict: 2.2m people.
Where did 700K go?
This really might be worse than what Jews faced in WWII.
Please check your data:
https://www.unrwa.org/resources/reports/unrwa-situation-report-156-situation-gaza-strip-and-west-bank-including-east-jerusalem
https://www.pcbs.gov.ps/site/lang__en/803/default.aspx Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics
Where did 700K go?… Check under the rubble.
Adelson’s little bitch. Punkass weakling, playing tough guy.
2.2m people —> 1.5m people.
It was worse in a sense under Biden just allowing attacks on civilians. Trump did speak against that though because of “bad optics.”
What’s been going on can’t be reconciled. You can’t live beside people after treating them like that.
The bad stuff has already happened. If expelled, they can always potentially return when Israel has changed. Everything changes with time.
Trump might give the Palestinians money. We’ll see. Tents in the desert are also “bad optics.”
You have been advocating ethnic cleansing more than once.
You really think they’ll be allowed to rebuild? Just what are you wanting?
I absolutely haven’t “advocated” killing or harming any Palestinians or Syrians, etc.
I’ve openly said the Palestinians win if they manage to stay, and the Israelis win if they’re removed. But what value is winning? Those children are being ruined if any aren’t already ruined.
If all I wanted was victory, maybe I’d side with the Palestinians. It’s in my interests for Americans to turn on Israel. But Palestinians are being ruined.
Regardless, where did 700K people go to? Were they killed, or did they flee?
I want the US out.
Understood, but it's been a slow motion holocaust for 7 decades. Death is part of life. They get to decide how to go out.
Look at Yemen. They’re defending or potentially defending the Palestinians. Trump might target Houthis with a terrorist designation leading to starvation in Yemen.
I hate that.
The only defence one might make is that to defeat one monster a person needs the support of a different monster. So, maybe Trump is serving Zionists to reform the US.
How can someone take food and water from a child? The joke is stealing candy from a baby, but this isn’t a joke.
Yemen lost its traditional agriculture due to cheap imports.
They already tried starving out Yemen and they’re still trying.
And failing.
High time we reconsider our options.
1. Abandon the Two State Solution.
2. Repatriate the Palestinians to their homes in Israel.
3. Demand an end to apartheid Zionism.
4. Establish a constitutional framework for the region granting universal suffrage.
5. Denuclearize the new nation.
Nothing listed here has ever been tried. It’s worth a shot.
Number 2 to 5 are not going to happen. Number 1 is still up in the air.
No.3 will beget No. 5 just like it did in the Republic of South Africa.
Not at all the same situation.
"Number 2 to 5 are not going to happen"
We'll see about that.
Death to Zionism!
I don't think you will live long enough to see it happen.
Number 1 is long gone.
"Slow motion holocaust" ? What is that? There are more Palestinians today than there were in 1948. Stop with the holocaust nonsense. (Editor note, I'm referring to using the term holocaust in reference to the Gaza war)
"Stop with the holocaust nonsense."
Holy f**k, Timothy. The Holocaust actually happened and is extremely well documented. Take your "Holocaust Denier" bulls**t elsewhere if you're not f**king Banned for it first. Unbelievable.
Yeah Tippy, why don’t you take it on the arches to Stormfront.
That’s your ilk.
Hahaha, I called out Timbit with a Stormfront reference before noticing YOUR reference to it !
I strongly suspect we're on to something.
I didn't not mean to imply the Holocaust did not happen. It did. What I failed to communicate correctly is that the term Holocaust does not apply to current Gaza war.
100% not what you said.
Thankfully I quoted you directly BEFORE you edited your Holocaust Denier comment to f**king NARROWLY avoid a permaban.
Parsing what you said :
Idea 1. ""Slow motion holocaust" ? What is that?"
Idea 2. "There are more Palestinians today than there were in 1948."
Idea 3. "Stop with the holocaust nonsense."
There is NO indication that Idea 3 follows from Idea 2 and/or that Idea 2 follows logically from Idea 1 either.
Each heavily implies separate statements. Like if someone said "Ice cream is cold. The sky is blue ! Mexicans are excellent engineers."
In (another of) your rambling nonsense comments, you just failed to stop before spouting a Holocaust Denier statement (perhaps thinking you were commenting on a Stormfront blog ?) as your third non-sequitor.
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For over seven deacdes….
Whether you like it or not. The Tribe doesn't have exclusivity on suffering when it comes to man's inhumanity to man.
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If is was a true Holocaust over 70 years would there not be less Palestinians today than in 1948? But there is not.
You know no empathy on today's International Holocaust Memory Day, January 27, 2025, only Islamic propaganda and provocation.
https://www.ushmm.org/remember/international-holocaust-remembrance-day
https://hmd.org.uk/ Holocaust Memorial Day
https://www.unesco.org/en/days/holocaust-remembrance
Actually I found out today in pursuing the news. However, you are wrong. Unlike the insincere individuals on this forum, I loathe all injustice no matter who it comes from. Why wouldn't I have sympathy or empathize with innocent people who were slaughtered? My ire is reserved for those who deserve it. One need count oneself amongst these insincere, racist and sick individuals.
Stop with the attempts to justify Isreal's massive war crimes.
I wonder if some who side with the Palestinians wouldn’t force them to remain in that wasteland just so they retain their claims to the land.
Victory isn’t worth that price.
The Israelis are willing to do anything. It’s too much.
If carrying capacity is reached, and only one group gets to eat its fill… I can understand that. But this is just murder, perhaps something worse than murder.
It's irrelevant. The Palestinians have already said by their actions. They are staying. What Israel couldn't do by war, it won't accomplish during the ceasefire.
I guess we’ll see what happens. I hope I’m never weak enough to face starvation and thirst as part of a “war.”
That's easy to say if you're not living among the rubble and squalor of the Gaza Ghetto.
Not predicting the future. Since the shameless west have no jouranlists on the ground, I am getting my information from the palestinian jouranlists risking their lives to bring us what's happening on the ground. Its all over al jazeera Arabic in epic proportions that Palestinians are walking back on foot to the North and they say they won't leave their land. I am also getting the same information from family and friends.
I am not alone this. Nearly all Palestinians are united on this.
Everything you say is based on the US continuing to allow Israel to do whatever the fuck they want. If your man Trump was worth a pinch of dog shit, he'd actually stand up to the Israeli's and do what's right. But instead, you encourage ethnic cleansing as if there are NO alternatives.
I don’t see reconstruction as likely. I remember some Syrian poster here insisting Syrians deserve reparations. Instead of reparations, they got al Qaeda.
I also told pro-Palestinians here a better slogan, early on:
“From the river to the sea, Jews and Arabs equal and free.”
A unitary state, mixed like Lebanon, might be the only alternative to a Jewish state. Currently, Palestine is like an Amerindian reservation in the desert. Had Amerindians the power, they might have resisted more.
I don't know what you are trying to say anymore. It's not the land that is sacred but what it symbolizes. The land cradles those indigenous to it and spits out those who are alien to it. Why is it so difficult to understand that a second nakba is worse than death. It's like giving up or surrendering to despair.
Giving up is what Zionist Jews did when they turned away from their religious inheritance. They saw religious Jews as weak, pathetic and deserving of ill treatment. They twisted judaism to fit their secular nationalism. They wanted to become supermen. All they ended up doing is becoming that which they hated.
If we Palestinians give up on decency, freedom, hope, self determination and justice, we would just become like Nazis and Zionists.
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"Trump might give the Palestinians money" That will not happen.
That is terrible. They should be paid probably $1m each for losing their real property and suffering horribly.
If Israel wants a way out, saying the Palestinians were paid well is that way. You can’t just dump them in a tent in the desert and tell people that only Israelis are human.
Why wouldn’t something that’s happened before happen again?
Trump gave money to the Palestinians for at least the first two years of his first term.
What they couldn't do in the war, they won't succeed in the ceasefire.
Let's see, you can build refugee camps in Gaza, just a few miles from their homes while we rebuild it or march them hundreds of miles into refugee camps in the Sainai desert. The refugee camps in Gaza are just as good as long as the IDF stops bombing them.
"we rebuild" I certainly don't want the US to waste money rebuilding Gaza only to have it destroyed again in the next war. The only way Gaza should be rebuild with international funds is if the Palestinians sign a true peace agreement with Israel. Until this happens, it is just a waste of money to rebuild Gaza.
They have offered many times. Its called a hudna. Its a generational truce. Israel has assassinated or tried to assassinate Palestinian leaders who offer it. Israel should accept it or it will be too late.
Trump is shrewd operator. As the best political con ever he knows how to do things. Always turns everything into a show performance with lots of glitter and pomp – creates villains and good guys and the crowd will cheer. Didn't Americans always love the shoot out bang, bang movies? It glorified killing.
So here we are, Trump first gave the base a mountain of Exec orders involving cultural issues which are actually welcomed by many Democrats as well since the Left went overboard with their idiocies. Now he is free to bully the world and has lots of support. The Left is stupid and goes after him about his "baby speech" and a slurred word here adn there.
Go to many Right leaning sites on the internet and the cheers for eradicating all Palestinians is vomit creating.
“You’re talking about a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing,” Trump said. “It’s literally a demolition site. Almost everything is demolished, and people are dying there, so I’d rather get involved with some of the Arab nations and build housing at a different location where they can maybe live in peace for a change.”
Admitting that Israel completely destroyed Gaza and punishing them by sending the Gazans to other countries. Thankfully Trump isn't like Biden. /s
And Arabs for Trump group in Michigan still supports Trump. You would think this idea combined with the US now shipping the 2000 pound bombs would wake them up. But no. Will they wake up when Israel annexes more of the West Bank?
"And Arabs for Trump group in Michigan still supports Trump."
Only you could be surprised that a group called "Arabs for Trump" is doing exactly that.
Also you imply a false equivalency. That group is NOT the large group of Muslim / Arab Democrats who did not vote Harris on account of her support of the ASI genocide of Gaza.
The Americans for Trump chairman is Bishara Bahbah. Bahbah insisted that Americans for Trump played a central role in electing Trump and represents a majority of the views of the 3.8 million Arab Americans. You can take your false equivalency argument up with Bahbah. In any case, the Arab Americans who voted for trump or chose not to vote for Biden are getting the first of many surprises. To be blunt any one who voted for Trump over Biden because they were thinking that Trump will be a friend of the Palestinians are fools.
No delusions about Trump.
You’re lying again.
They supported Trump in an election to punish the "genociders." Trump's unpredictably may yet deliver Palestine to us. "The best plans of men and mice…."
The issue is obsession over real-estate; particularly the "Holy Land". If Israel's major concern is safety and Living Space (there's an appropriate German word for it) then Trump should form a New Israel out of Montana and Wyoming, and the current Israeli population can move there and live forever in peace with more square footage & fawning neighbours on all sides.
Yes there are people already living in Montana and Wyoming, but Americans have dealt with "squatters" before (usta be called 'Indians') and perhaps the State of New Israel might be benevolent enough to let some Montaninians and Wyomites remain on "reservations". Israelis are more important to the US Federal government than low-electoral-vote flyover states anyhow.
OR give up Florida as New Israel, then EVERYONE loses (ha-ha).
Florida might as well be Israel. State contractors are required, by law, to sign a loyalty oath to Israel, anyway.
I like to see a copy of that agreement. Do you have a copy? I did search and came up empty.
What agreement?
If you mean the loyalty oath to Israel, it is required for state contracts and grants, pursuant, to Florida Statutes chapter 287, that contractors/grantess certify that they are “not engaging in a boycott of Israel.”
What stupid suggestion made by someone who does not live the the USA.
Definitely they should be brought to Germany and the US. We will take the good ones. They can stay.
…says the agent of the Apartheid State of Israel.
Hopefully you’re not a PAID agent. As much as I despise the ASI, I hate to see anyone, ASI included, waste money on s**t propagandists liars like yourself.
Israel doesn't deserve any of those locations you mentioned…! Build a wall on moon or mars for their prayers and move them there…! Musk can help…! They can grab as much land they want there…!
LOL… We have already lost one of the tribes. We can't afford to lose more.
Exposing himself as a pure Israel first Zionist. Any crumbs he throws America is just for show. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d976791a8c59f11524d6951619a5b0a5435d5c095829d841cacff689c079f52.jpg
Well that prediction did not happen.