A former Israeli defense minister has said Israel is conducting an ethnic cleansing campaign in northern Gaza, where Israeli troops are forcibly expelling civilians under the threat of death.
Moshe Yaalon, a former member of the ruling Likud party, was defense minister under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from 2013 to 2016 during the 2014 Gaza War. In comments on Saturday, Yaalon criticized the current Netanyahu government.
“The path they’re dragging us down is to occupy, annex, and ethnically cleanse — look at the northern strip,” Yaalon said.
When asked to clarify if he meant Israel is currently conducting ethnic cleansing or is headed in that direction, Yaalon pointed to what is happening on the ground in northern Gaza today.
“There’s no Beit Lahia. There’s no Beit Hanoun. They’re now operating in Jabalia. They’re basically cleaning the territory of Arabs,” he said.
The northern cities of Beit Lahia, Beit Hanoun, and Jabalia have been under a total siege since early October as part of an ethnic cleansing campaign that’s following an outline known as the “general’s plan.” In those areas, Israeli troops are demolishing homes, so Palestinian civilians have nowhere to return.
Yaalon’s comments sparked a strong backlash in Israel, but he doubled down on Sunday. In another interview, the former defense minister said the term ethnic cleansing was “accurate” and asked “no other word for it.”
He pointed to Israeli ministers who openly call for the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and the establishment of Jewish settlements. Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich recently said that it may be possible to cut the population of Gaza in half within two years through “voluntary emigration,” though there is nothing voluntary about the displacement in Gaza that’s happening today.
“Behold! Here is a true Israelite, one in whom there is no guile.” —Jesus
We like to think of him as a Palestinian. 🙂
You think of him as a Muslim too, don’t you (which would come as a surprise to him)?
@oded_samuel:disqus Looks like your views on Palestine don't curry favor in this venue.
First of all I said it in terms of endearment.
Second, Palestine is the name the Romans used for the Holy Land.
Third it's mentioned in the Hebrew Bible as Peleshet (Exodus 14:14; Isaiah 14:29, 31; Joel 3:4).
Fourth. A) Jesus in the Garden of Gettsemette put his face on the ground and prayed. More than Jews and Christians, Muslims are known for doing that 5 times a day. B) He was circumcised as Muslims (and Israelites) are. C) He grew a beard as Muslims do. D) Islam means submitting one's will to God. Jesus said "I can of mine own self do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I seek not Mine own will, but the will of the Father who hath sent Me" John 5:30.
Fifth, all the prophets (PBUTA) are considered Muslims because they submitted their will to God. This includes Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed.
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Ethnic cleansing is too gentle a word to describe the genocide Israel is committing in Gaza. Meanwhile China remains Israel's biggest import trade partner and second biggest market for Israeli exports. India is Israel's main customer for advanced weapons systems and South Africa continues to trade with Israel. Muslim and African countries who vote against Israel at the UN supply Israel with 220,000 barrels of oil a day that Israel needs to carry on the genocide in Gaza. Even Iran and Hezbollah backed down to Israeli aggression and left the Palestinians on their own to resist the IDF and the settlers. Except for the Houthis the world has abandoned Palestine.
It doesn't have to be this way. In the 1960's, 70's and 80's the US and UK blocked security council action against apartheid South Africa. But the countries of the world expelled South Africa from the general assembly and passed UN resolutions calling for military, economic, political and cultural boycotts of South Africa. None of the nations of the world have been willing to organize collective economic or military action against Israeli genocide.
Only the American people can make our pro-Zionist government stop supporting Israel. This is an American genocide and it is up to us to stop it. I hope we can do that.
In days of deceit and treacherous conformity, calling things as they are is a revolutionary act …
Mohamad Safa ® @mhdksafa
Nov 29
Israel has dropped almost 80,000 tons of explosives – this means that Israel has dropped ~36 kilograms of explosives on Gaza for every man, woman, and child.
Each red dot shows a bombed place in Gaza. (UN
Satellite Centre, July 6th)
This is what genocide looks like.
https://x.com/mhdksafa/status/1862357315992605017
If Israel had intended “genocide” then the number of dead which Hamas claims to be 41,000 (of which 20k are Hamas) would be exponentially higher. Just repeating the word does not make it so
@existentialdread:disqus You're joking right. Stupid Zionist talking points doesn't make it so. Genocide is another western construct. You don't have to use it. Israelis want Palestinians out. In order to do that they are willing to kill, starve and displace the population.
And how do you know? Common sense tells us you are telling lies. Just repeating propaganda does not make it true.
There is no “common sense” on your side. Just blind hate and a lack of understanding of the other side of this conflict. To consider Hamas “ legal resistance fighters” is disgraceful
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I WONDER WHY?
Are you a paid for troll?
Your posts are very extreme, you are convinced you are failproof, you are never wrong, you know the truth.
Backing genocidal war criminals is far more disgraceful, pig.
Zionists giving lectures on morality, too fqing funny.
Death to Zionism!
Perhaps some counselling would help you Joe
I’m not the psychopathic war crimes supporter Odele.
May an anger management course is warranted joe
The Israeli snipers targeting children in Gaza need a Psychopathic Cruelty Management course.
But tat raises an important question.
Can mass murderers be rehabilitated?
There is nothing to understand about Hamas that would justify what Israel has done over the last 14 months. Consider Hamas anything you want, and it still doesn't change that. Nothing does.
You sound like a very deranged creature.
The ICJ accuses Israel of genocide as do human rights Watch and Amnesty International.
The only people claiming genocide is not happening are sick, evil zionists.
The numbers are infinitely higher. There are people buried under rubble and bodies have been shredded where there is no way to count.
Rescuers are bombed as they seek to find the living and recover the dead.
There are likely half a million killed.
Their genocidal intentions were spoken plainly and publicly.
Don’t come at me with bullshit talking points.
The talking points are on your side buddy. You pull a number like half a million out of your ass. That’s 25% of the population. There is nothing close to genocide. Probably almost half of the dead are Hamas terrorists.
Numbers are not the sole determination of
the international legal definition of genocide.
And you are projecting as you pull numbers of hamas out of your ass. I suppose you consider women and children “Hamas”.
I do not consider women and children Hamas unless a 17 year old is aiming an RPG at an Israeli soldier which I’m sure is not unheard of
https://rietjournal.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/EN_RIET_2022_N7_Child-soldiers-in-Palestinian-groups-forced-recruitment-and-use-of-minors-as-a-violation-of-International-Humanitarian-Law_daniel-perez-garcia_art2.pdf
Gaza and the West Bank are occupied territory. It is Israel’s responsibility to care for the people via international law. As the occupied they have the right to self defense.
Israel can not declare war on its own occupied territory. But you know this.
Gaza has not been occupied since 2005. Israel (and Egypt)only started controlling the entry of goods when Hamas took over in a coup. Despite Israel’s best efforts, Hamas has managed to smuggle an enormous amount of arms into Gaza.
No one buys your lies. Have a nice day
Thank you
Hamas won the election, anything else is a lie. But that does not fit your narrative, I understand that.
I know better.
Isreal controlled what and who could enter Gaza. that blockade amounts to an occupation. It's also an act of war.
Go fq yourself Zionist pig!
Hamas are legal resistance fighters, they are the victims, their parents and siblings are the victims as were their grandparents in 1948 when they were expelled by the Zionists.
You need some real history education not grade school brain manipulation.
Ya. Thanks very much but I’m quite well versed on the history of the conflict. It seems like you’re parroting the usual empty cliches that we hear on college campuses from the brain dead. But please continue. It’s entertaining at least.
Besides education I do have life experience and moral principals, I know right from wrong, I do experience and recognize the total moral bankruptcy of Western Democracies and the corruption of neoliberal economies. Individualism is the excuse for brutal behavior and the destruction of social behavior.
The ruling elite are people without a social conscience, they are sadistic psychopaths, people with no character, decency and integrity. That is why they can applaud a war criminal like Netanyahu with 58 standing ovations for a speech soaked in lies they knew were lies for one hour. Only insane, mad people can do such things.
I also know right from wrong. Since you consider western democracies morally bankrupt, are there any governments (other than Hamas) that
you believe to be guided by principles of morality, justice and decency?
"I also know right from wrong"
ROFL. You are a psychopathic backer of war criminals and mass murder
Settle down son
GFY!
Western Democracies have the most f*cked up governments. At the very top is f*cked up Israel and the USA followed by London, Paris, and Berlin.
The demented f*cked up Biden gang will be replaced with a f*cked up conman and his f*cked up gang. Trump/Biden/Trump, what a criminal tag team they are.
" the usual empty cliches that we hear on college campuses from the brain dead"
you really are a vile POS.
Death to Zionism!
Which makes every 17 year old fair game. And since it's hard to tell how old someone is sometimes, might as well kill anything that looks near that age too. Oh yeah, their mothers feed them, might as well take them out too……
U.S. Doctors Report IDF Snipers Intentionally Targeting Children In Gaza
‘No toddler gets shot twice by mistake by the “world's best sniper.” And they're dead-center shots.’
https://www.scnr.com/article/u-s-doctors-report-idf-snipers-intentionally-targeting-children-in-gaza_ebe4ffd74b6a11ef9c930242ac1c0002
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/09/opinion/gaza-doctor-interviews.html
What does it take for you to call the sadistic brutal massacre of a defenseless nation GENOCIDE? What more does it take for you to recognize that genocide is mass-killing of defenseless people including women and children, babies and toddlers? It does not matter what you call it, it is rabid dogs on the loose, doing what mad dogs do.
Netanyahu and his Likud are as insane as the demented war criminal Biden and his gang are.
When you use the term "Hamas terrorist" you should put an asterisk next to it. And then give this as an explanation:
*Note: This was pre-Oct 7th terminology. Now, Hamas is no longer worthy of the word "terrorist". Israel's actions since Oct 7th have made in necessary to start a minor league for terrorist groups of which all other known terrorist groups now make up. Until they can reach the level that has been set by Israel since, and including Oct 7th, that is where they will remain.
What is it then? A slaughter? A massacre? And how do you drop 80 thousand tons of bombs on cities that are densely populated with civilians and NOT kill more than 40,000? And half of those are Hamas ? What about those tunnels? And then add on the
man madeIsrael made famine. Need I remind you of the 30-day grace period the US gave Israel to starve the Palestinians in Gaza. When they demanded that 350 trucks enter per day and Israel responded by allowing an average of 37 per day. But I guess we'll have to wait for those people to die. It's much slower than getting bombed to shreds. So, no genocide? How about Holocaust? I heard that term bandied about right after Oct 7th. Of course, that was because 1200 Israelis (including 300 security personal) were killed. Now imagine if 40,000 Israelis had been killed since then, that term would be being screamed from the rooftops.Israel Committing ‘Textbook Case of Genocide,’ Holocaust Historian Says
The assault on Gaza is “a textbook case of genocide unfolding in front of our eyes,” Raz Segal, associate professor of Holocaust and genocide studies at Stockton University, wrote in a piece for Jewish Currents, a progressive Jewish magazine, published on October 13.
In the article and in an interview with Democracy Now!, Segal pointed out that genocide is defined in the December 1948 United Nations Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide as five acts committed with “intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.”
Segal wrote that Israeli leaders and officials have made their intent clear, noting Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant’s comments about “fighting human animals” and Israeli Defense Forces spokesperson Daniel Hagari saying the “emphasis is on damage and not on accuracy.”
Segal said Israel is perpetrating three of the five acts that fall under the U.N. convention’s definition.
“The dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act,” he said.
Israel “is also perpetrating act number two and three—that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating conditions designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals,” Segal added, noting that the World Health Organization has called the orders to evacuate hospitals “a death sentence for the sick and injured.”
“So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide,” he said.
https://www.newsweek.com/holocaust-historian-israel-committing-genocide-raz-segal-1835346
You are a sick and evil war crimes and genocide supporter.
Hope you get a bad case of cancer, killer.
My goodness. You are very angry, aren’t you?
People defending slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents by Israel makes me angry.
My government’s support and funding of this genocide makes me even angrier.
The Zionist assault on freedom of speech, assembly and press in the US makes me downright mad.
The Zionist capture of the US government and US politics makes me furious.
So GFY Zionist, preferably with a pitchfork.
The Lancet, a British medical journal, among other respected humanitarian organizations have calculated or estimated the Zionist entity, a.k.a. Israel, murdering more than 100,000 human beings.
Applying a conservative estimate of four indirect deaths per one direct death9 to the 37 396 deaths reported, it is not implausible to estimate that up to 186 000 or even more deaths could be attributable to the current conflict in Gaza. Using the 2022 Gaza Strip population estimate of 2 375 259, this would translate to 7·9% of the total population in the Gaza Strip.*
dennis hanna
* https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext#:~:text=to%20the%2037%20396%20deaths,this%20would%20translate%20to%207&text=9%25%20of%20the%20total%20population%20in%20the%20Gaza%20Strip.
This was a single non peer reviewed letter written by 3 academics that came out with the 186k number. Hardly persuasive
Perhaps a more accurate statemet:
The United States has dropped 80,000 tons of its explosives on Gaza through its proxy, the Zionist entity, Israel.
Yes, the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Gaza, and Palestine is an United States "proxy war" specifically on the Palestinian people and ggeneral on Arabs.
The "American Empire," a.k.a., United States, merely continues the ethnic cleansing and genocide initiated by the "British Empire."
dennis hanna
p.s. I know nothing. “The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing.”
Socrates, 470 B.C.E. – 399 B.C.E.
As a species we need to stop making such a fuss over one of the professional liars telling a truth, as here or the other article today in which Boris Johnson states the obvious. Centering the ghouls as a standard of truth-telling is how creatures like John Bolton never stay flushed down the pipes.
Got that right.
"Centering the ghouls as a standard of truth-telling" is not the point. If somebody makes a factual statement that undermines their own position, that can be used as a powerful argument. The warmongers will have trouble propagating their lies when their own officials undermine those lies.
I'm over 50 and the warmongers have had no trouble propagating their lies when their own officials undermine those lies when some of them see some personal advantage to quibble with the odd subissue.
That the Israelis are guilty of ethnic cleansing is hardly an odd sub issue. Ethnic cleansing is the overall goal of Israeli policy in Gaza.
Some Israeli official griping about the nature of that project which he’s dedicated his life to has a very narrow political agenda which does not include rights for Palestinians. He’s probably just miffed with Netanyahu’s visuals. It’s like lionizing Dick Cheney’s daughter.
The you know who first US Congress must act against that obviously obvious truthful assertion. But it is a tricky situation. If they mention it, they bring more attention to it.
“Children live what they learn.”
Wise words indeed….
Duh!
Truth is the best friend of peace…
You can't deny the facts when the criminals' own gang has given up the jig. You guys having trouble responding to Zionist talking points, just quote Israelis for the best refutations.
That too is singing with the choir.
The Zionists and neocons are true believers, you can't reason with religious people.
With a Hezbollah ceasefire, things will only get worse in Gaza.
When will it dawn on Hamas to surrender and release hostages to stop the slaughter?
Why do you believe that would stop the slaughter when genocide is the goal of the Israeli and US Zionists??
If anything, Trump's second term will be even worse than Biden's term. Trump is a conman, he has no sense of responsibility for his actions, he never wasted time on policies and consequences, not a moment of introspection. He learned nothing the first time around.
Israel would receive worldwide (including US and UK) condemnation for not halting military action against a surrender and hostage return.
Nothing to do with Biden or Trump, it’s about removing the fig leaf of legitimacy (hostages) from the equation.
That is debatable, but don’t forget, we are dealing with deranged criminals and we don’t know how deranged minds work. Normal people would have used diplomacy to avoid the slaughter and destruction, insane minds drop bombs to kill and wipe out people who can’t fight back. They can’t be trusted and should be locked up on death row.
There is no other way.
No sensible analysis would suggest Isreal will stop without a hostage release.
Remove that excuse and world pressure would descend not only on them but those supporting them, the US and UK.
To suggest otherwise is to perpetuate Gaza’s annihilation and reduction into powder.
Trump and Netanyahu are mad dogs, mad enough to go all out for WW III.
It is now almost a century of the slow motion genocide of the Palestinian people, and the world stood by and did nothing because the USA and UK WERE IN BED WITH THE ZIONISTS.
The Palestinians could not take anymore, Hamas are young men born in a prison and were never able to get out. Israelis would kill them on the beach, prevented them from fishing in their own waters, they counted the calories of their food and sanctioned the calories above the minimum.
The evil committed against the Palestinians, women and children, babies and toddlers included is indescribable.
The sordid past is no justification for not ending the present-day calamity.
No Israeli govt would stand for a ceasefire without the release of hostages, just the hard, unavoidable fact.
How many Palestinian hostages would be released in turn? They are not even mentioned, what will the Israelis give in return, kill fewer babies or toddlers or allow aid, food and medical supply, to enter Gaza?
What are some hostages to Netanyahu? What about basic human rights like food water and medical supply to the suffering Palestinian children?
The Israelis would take their hostages and get back to bombing and killing the Palestinians immediately, genocide knows no mercy. Our politicians act as if the Palestinians don’t exist, so much for the good Christians.
When you lose a battle, you cannot dictate terms.
Hamas is defeated and pretending they are not only prolongs the unnecessary carnage.
Please tell that the USA/NATO and Ukrainians, it is news to them.
The Palestinians have nothing to lose, they will fight to the last man standing, and why not?
The Ukrainians lost a long time ago but Zelensky demands to dictate the conditions to end the war, Putin, the victor will do as Zelensky the loser tells him?
The Ukrainians will not regain control of eastern Ukraine, just like Crimea.
And what would Hamas get in return?
Let us be honest, NOTHING. Why should Hamas show mercy when no one has mercy for the Palestinian people and Hamas who are the Palestinian people.
Why any mercy for Israelis, what did they do to deserve it?
The end of active hostilities.
Why reward the monsters who massacre them and their families?
Without the hostages there will be no end. Is that what you want?
The hostages are no more than a propaganda tool and can easily be replaced with another lie.
Not true. It’s their only justification, remove it if you truly want an end.
What does JUSTICE stand for?
Morality means nothing to you, the right and wrong is meaningless only the bigger gun stands for justice, human rights AND human kind of mercy DOES NOT EXCIST?
Why don't the Israelis stop the slaughter and the settlements and killings on the WB, ending active brutal hostilities against the Palestinians, don't they have human rights and the right of self-defense?
Why always expect them to roll over to be kicked some more by the sadistic IDF scum bags?
Really, where did they end their brutal hostilities? The US keeps vetoing any cease fire in the UN, why, what is it to them, they don't live there, there children are no being amputated without anesthetic because they support blocking any aid for the starving children.
The Israelis and the Americans make me pu*ke. They are just plain evil monsters.
So the Israeli war criminals should get rewarded? No Palestinian would stand for a cease fire without release of their hostages. Why expect the Palestinians to just roll over to get kicked some more? You do have a double standard. What ever happened to the HUMAN RIGHTS ? Democracies are morally bankrupt, Democracy and freedom have become a joke. Their leadership is as brutal and morally bankrupt as any fascistic dictatorship, which in fact they already are.
There is no other way to end the current butchery.
The slaughter of the Palestinian people would continue, the hostage release is not Netanyahu’s goal, genocide and all of Palestine is the goal. Hannibal orders is what counts.
It is the only play left for the Palestinians, why so illogical?
would you want to go on living like the Palestinian people? They are ready to fight and die and not be forced living like animals. The hateful Israelis have never made the slightest attempt to live with the Palestinian people starting in 1948 when they expelled the Palestinians from their land and destroyed some 400 villages on their land. Not even a dime of compensation for the Palestinians.
The treatment of the Palestinian people shows how ugly and evil the Europeans are.
I would want to go on living, suicide is madness. We simply disagree.
Living a miserable brutally tortured life without future is not worth living.
Living life like that is madness. Try it and see how you would like it.
"The sordid past is no justification for not ending the present-day calamity."
You said it, tell the Israeli-Zionist monsters that and watch how they call you anti-Semitic and hit you over the head with it. Don't forget to say thanks a lot.
The Israelis do blackmail to get their way, anti-Semitism is the blackmail bat they use to hit people over the head if they do what is morally right and the sadistic Zionist monsters don't like.
The Israelis should surrender and release hostages to stop the slaughter.
But they won’t, because they are winning, the difference.
They are winning for close to a century, when are they done winning?
Why are Israelis leaving Israel if they are winning and the living is great?
Since when is Hamas interested in saving Palestinian lives? Quite the contrary
Um, my point.
Don't you know who the Hamas people are?
They are the true owners of Palestine.
The Israelis are the terrorists, illegal and extremely sadistic and brutal criminal occupiers.
Informed people do know that.
Again, Israel is doing the slaughtering. You can blame Hamas, but ISRAEL IS DOING THE SLAUGHTERING.
Don't you know, Hamas are Palestinians fighting for THEIR AND THEIR SIBLINGS HUMAN RIGHTS, all based on the right of SELF-DEFENSE.
When in power, Hamas seemed a lot more interested in abusing Palestinians than fighting for Palestinians’ rights.
They just brought in Israel as “worse cop” to their “bad cop” when it started to be clear that Palestinians weren’t going to tolerate their misrule anymore.
Thomas, I know you know better, it is much more complex.
The PLO failed, Netanyahu supported Hamas to divide the Palestinians, he won, Abbas and the PA serve the Likud and not the Palestinians on the WB. I don’t understand how anyone can make excuses for the Zionists and the American monsters. What ever happened to human rights for the Palestinian people in Gaza and yes the WB? What happened to human decency, to justice, morality, most of all. Have you no mercy? We are being ruled by criminally insane monsters, that is why I refused to vote this time and I will not vote for the lesser of two evil ever again. I want to be able to look in the mirror and still like myself.
I’m not making excuses for the Zionist monsters.
Just pointing out that other monsters are also monsters.
I don’t think we had any disagreement about that basic fact and there is no need to keep repeating it when talking about the acts of monsters. But we also know that some people do have double standards, a little more than just a little bias.
Thomas, there is no need to use the whataboutism every time the Israelis are being criticized. I don't balance every little point with what Putin did to excuse what Netanyahu, Biden, Blinken, Trump and Sullivan or any of the neocons and Likud members does or says. They are responsible for their actions, every individual there is no way to spread the criminal guilt. Hitler and Eichmann too could have said "I did not do it"
There’s also no need to publicly fantasize that your preferred authoritarian murder cults/cultists are “freedom fighters” and “statesmen,” yet here you are.
Thomas, please put your evidence on the table.
You are supporting psychopaths’ like Netanyahu, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Trump, all our elected officials are sick war criminals, they tower with Hitler, genocide, the massacre of a nation, you try to excuse and justify. I would like to believe you are better than that, you are a decent human being, you do not support to starve children to death, or deny anesthetics to treat amputations of children, bombing of tent housings, I could go on and on. You have no evidence to prove me wrong, nothing excuses the Israeli brutality, the sadism of these people. I hate to say it, but even Hitler did not kill Dr. and nurses, bombed hospitals, ambulances schools and churches and people sleeping in tents, the inhumanity to men, women and children is indescribable. It is well known, even the US controlled UN confirmed all the crimes.
Normal people will not support such crimes, only psychopathic people can do that, the sadism screams to heaven and you can’t hear it?
“You are supporting psychopaths’ like Netanyahu, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Trump”
It’s not nice to lie about me.
Just as you lie about me, don’t you see that?
It is your opinion that I prefer authoritarian murder cults/cultists which I call freedom fighters and statesmen.
I kick the ball back in your court. I call Hamas resistance fighters because they are fighting for the human rights of the Palestinian people, the victims who are their parents and siblings, their little brothers and sisters, the orphans left behind. I call an elected President Putin a statesman, because that it what he is. We do not have a statesman tall enough to hand him the salt at the table. Prove me wrong, your men are psychopaths starting with Biden, Netanyahu, and Trump and more. Not one of them is an honorable head of state.
“your men”
Check your premises.
You know my opinion better than I do. I am impressed.
Thomas, do you know about this?
"Economic sanctions and other measures were taken by Israel, the United States and other countries against the Palestinian National Authority (PA), including the suspension of international aid following the decisive victory for Hamas at the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC) election on 25 January 2006."
NO?
Maybe you mean Abbas and the PA on the WB, they serve keeping Palestinians under control serving Israeli interests, instead of the Palestinians on the WB. There is no Hamas on the WB.
I mean Hamas in Gaza.
I’m not saying the PA is any better.
Both organizations are authoritarian gangs, happy to oppress Palestinians for both their own and Israeli interests if it keeps them empowered.
Which means Israel can continue with the ethnic cleansing in North Gaza and continue the slaughter. Got it.
Exactly and why it’s long past time Hamas face reality, there will be no peace without hostages.
Exactly? Holy fuck, I didn't think anyone would come right out and admit that they condone the slaughter and the ethnic cleansing of over 2 million people, the VAST majority being innocents. You are one sick piece of shit.
The Palestinians dared electing Hamas, and the Israelis and complicit criminal elements imposed sanctions instantly, how dare they picked people they liked, Hamas won by a big margin.
Declare Hamas terrorists that allows the criminal, democratic elements every crime under the sun against defenseless Palestinians with impunity. Hamas are resistance against illegal brutal occupation, but our honorable officials know better, if they call them terrorists that is what they are because the criminal Zionists and American neocon sh*ith*eads say so.
Nobody is listening. He talks like he was an expert on war crimes. The only reason he is talking about war crimes is because he thinks he could have done them better.
It's ironic that in my sidebar there's a big ad for 'Magen David Adom' proclaiming 'No one saves more lives in time of war in Israel'. Since Israel obviously sees Gaza and the West Bank as part of Israel, why isn't this outfit 'saving more lives' in those areas? Or are Jewish lives the only ones they care about?
Why would this need any decision on censoring?
Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by News from http://Antiwar.com .
Years from now the present world leaders are going to be interviewed and I'd like the very first question they're asked to be, "You saw what Israel was doing to the Palestinians- why didn't you do anything to stop them?"
Unlike the Jewish Holocaust, this one is televised- no one can say they didn't know.
Stop shooting at israel. Its bad, and they will kill you, so, stop doing it.
The more Israel attempts to recreate the life of Jews under Nazi occupation upon Palestinians (modeled exclusively & apparently on Warsaw 1944), the less likely they will find themselves the recipient of what previously was global goodwill and forbearance.
Actually, the forbearance has gone on so long, nobody notices until it takes an ICC decision to wake (some of) them up.
But so many yet are in denial, it can only get worse before getting better.
The Democracies are in control of merciless psychopaths, they must be removed first to even get started working for peace the diplomatic way, that takes people with character, dignity and integrity and HONESTY for starters. We are in deep kimchi.
The tenets and principles of Zionism are repugnant!
Yes, I know about that.
Hamas was legitimately elected in 2006, and I opposed US/Israeli whining and sanctions over that.
Hamas has refused to allow an election since. As of August 2023, Hamas was suppressing mass protests by the Palestinian street against its authoritarian misrule and executing its Palestinian opponents as “Israeli spies” in a desperate attempt to hold on to power. When that was clearly not working, the next step was to bring in “worse cop” Israel in an attempt to turn itself from despised gang to heroic savior.
I would think that no matter what, if Hamas would win, the neocons would claim the election rigged, like Maduro in Venezuela were Blinken decides Maduro did not win because he, Blinken says so, someone living in another state won the election, I forgot the name. That justifies the sanctions imposed on Venezuela and then he yells how incompetent Maduro is.
Hamas hasn't allowed an election in 18 years, so there's no election for anyone to claim as "rigged."
Is the Ukrainian Zelensky an elected head of state? Why has he cancelled elections and forbade opposition parties and imprisoned the leadership and more? Some Democracy, wouldn't you say? Do the conditions in brutally Occupied Gaza and the WB allow elections? I don't think so. Israel imposed sanctions on Gaza the moment the Hamas won the elections, get real, we have rigged elections without any war in the US, that is normal conditions and rigged elections. Who are the Americans to point fingers? Just look at the last election, who picked the candidates Trump and Harris, what a joke, to put it mildly.
Don't for get the trash of the EU/NATO states, that is democracy with controlled MSM, and all kind of tricks to demonize and destroy any opposition? If people criticize and don't follow the official narrative they risk to lose their jobs.
So much for Democracy.
Zelenskyy didn’t cancel elections. The Ukrainian constitution did. But yes, he’s every bit as much an authoritarian as his counterparts in other countries.
Gaza was unoccupied from 2006-2023. Hamas could have allowed elections any time — and chose instead to remain in power by force for nearly two decades, brutally suppressing Palestinians who opposed its authoritarian rule. It’s not surprising that the Israeli regime funds and supports Hamas. They’re peas in a pod.
He canceled the election he also signed an order under no circumstance ever to negotiate with Putin. Based on what would the Constitution cancel elections? Who would implement the cancellation based on what?
Do you have any evidence of any debate regarding cancellation of an election? All I know is based on public information which is that Zelensky canceled the election and at no time did his government deny and correct it.
Hamas did not oppress the people, the Israelis did, including the WB were the Pa is in charge to keep the Palestinian people controlled. The PA supports and protects the criminality of the brutal Settlers and the IDF, not the Palestinian people, we can trust that ABBAS and his PA stooges are well paid. There is no HAMAS resistance on the WB only Israeli settlers and the PA. Israeli Zionist, Abbas and the PA are peas in the same pot, NOT Hamas, they are in Gaza and were elected by the people. The Israelis did all they could to keep them from governing, like more than 60 years of the American Cuba blockade and the blockades in Venezuela and Nicaragua only much worse and than they go and scream that they can’t govern. Give me a break, our politicians are the seeds of Satan.
“Based on what would the Constitution cancel elections?”
Based on its language.
Sorry for engaging with you. I’m just fascinated by your ability to move so quickly from news story X to “EVERTHING IS THE WAY I BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE I WANT TO BELIEVE IT IS THAT WAY,” and occasionally want to see if that’s slowing any. Obviously not.
“Based on its language” What does that mean, be concrete, what exactly does the constitution say? You said it is based on the constitution, why don’t you say what it says, surely you know.
And surely you would know, if you bothered to.
But your modus operandi is to decide who you like, and then stomp your feet and insist that however you want things to be is the way things are because that’s what you want.
I just pop by occasionally to see if there’s any evidence of you facing reality.
See you again in a few weeks.
Why did you not answer my question? Maybe after you enjoy a few weeks off you are in a better mood. Anyway, it is not important, he is not a legal head of state, Zelensky that is.
According to the Ukrainian constitution, he is in fact a legal head of state.
Not that that makes him any better than if he wasn’t. He’s still just a gang shot-caller, like Biden, Starmer, Putin, et al.
And he made lots of money too. Although, he may not be able to enjoy it.
Have fun, I will deal with reality, I have a life time of experience, my guess is I have more experience than you have.
That too is debatable, but let it be.
Whatever you want to call it, it was turned into an open air prison camp, no matter what you want to call it, the fact is what it is not what you call it.
It has an 8m high fence where the imprisoned could only get out if the guards allowed it depending how they felt. It was blockaded, Israel controlled every inch of border including the coast, and the sky, they allowed only the minimum of calories food aid for the population. The Palestinians were not allowed to tend to their fields outside the fence without permission. Watch the documentary ” Where the Olive Trees Weep” by Gabor Mate the father of Aaron. And then be honest with yourself.
Follow the honest Israelis, Jews like Finkelstein, Sachs, Mearsheimer, Blumenthal, honorable reliable historians, many of them former Zionists, look at the activities of the Settlers on the WB and the undisciplined IDF scum. The Zionists and Hamas are not peas in a pot, stop fooling yourself with wishful thinking, be honest with your conscience basic human decency demands it from you. Stop fooling yourself, your decency demands it. Hamas young men fight for their and their siblings “HUMAN RIGHTS” since 1948 when Palestinians were expelled and robbed of their homeland and homes. Israelis are fighting for land that does NOT BELONG to them. They are the war criminals, PALESTINIANS ARE THE VICTIMS, no matter what you want it to be.
Yes, Palestinians are the victims — of the Zionists, and of Hamas, and of the PA.