Update 11/11/24 at 12:46 pm EST: The Kremlin denied Putin and Trump held a call, calling the report “pure fiction”
President-elect Donald Trump spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin following his election victory last week, The Washington Post reported on Sunday.
A source told the Post that Trump advised Putin not to escalate in Ukraine and reminded the Russian leader of the sizeable US military presence in Europe. Sources also said they discussed bringing peace to Europe, and Trump expressed interest in a follow-up call to discuss “the resolution of Ukraine’s war soon.”
The call took place on Thursday, one day after the president-elect spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. According to Axios, Elon Musk joined Trump in the call with Zelensky, and the Ukrainian leader was somewhat reassured by what he heard.
Trump campaigned on ending the proxy war, and the Biden administration is worried that he’ll do just that after inauguration day. The Biden team is looking to rush billions in weapons shipments to Ukraine before January 20 to exhaust over $6 billion it has remaining to spend on the conflict.
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said President Biden will try to convince Trump to continue the proxy war. “President Biden will have the opportunity over the next 70 days to make the case to the Congress and to the incoming administration that the United States should not walk away from Ukraine, that walking away from Ukraine means more instability in Europe,” Sullivan said.
Biden and Trump are expected to talk this Wednesday, and Sullivan said Biden “will have the chance to explain to President Trump how he sees things, where they stand, and talk to President Trump about how President Trump is thinking about taking on these issues when he takes office.”
See my comment on the U.S. contractors.
There is no "sizeable" US military presence in Europe.
Trump probably never even said that. That's just pandering to his base, who think he's a "tough guy." If he did say it, Putin probably snorted his coffee through his nose.
Ramstein in Germany is the biggest US AB outside the continental US, and a modern big military hospital nearby. Drones in the ME are operated from Ramstein.
Ramstein is not the largest US Air Base outside of the USA. Not even close. It is not even in the top 20 in size. Do you just make stuff up as oppose to doing research?
Well, all you have to do is to name the bigger ones.
We will see how big Trump is and if he will tell Biden to get lost, that he will not continue a lost war the worst president in US history is responsible for. The neocons must be told to go to hell they caused enough death and destruction. The people had enough, that is why Harris lost the election.
Fake news.
Russia denies any call was recieved.
So who is lying?
You.
Russia denies the call took place, and the Ukraine denies any knowledge of the call:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/11/why-is-wapo-reporting-a-trump-putin-call-that-did-not-take-place.html#more
Putin knows about the NATO and EU conditions in Europe and he knows he can't trust them no more than the USA/NATO. He also knows how unpredictable Trump is and he knows Biden and his neocon gang.
The Putin people now have experience and know better what to expect from insane losers.
Looks like the hardline neocons are Trump's biggest enemy.
A sizable US force in Europe doesn’t mean anything in this period of multi polarism, which could soon become mega multi polarism. We can’t rule the planet, the planet has a natural disdain for false G-d’s. G-d is One and the curve of justice offers us time to conform to excellence in decency.
I have read recently, sorry not sure where but I definitely read this, that Trump's idea of bringing the Ukraine war to an end was a) tell Zelensky get to the negotiation table pronto or no more munitions; and b) tell Putin get to the negotiation table pronto or the US will "frickin' bomb Moscow." Maybe somebody made this up but it sounds right about his idea to end the conflict in 24 hours.
Will Trump have the courage to tell the people to face the truth about Ukraine, which is, it is the Biden, neocon war and they lost the war big time?
Biden is wholly responsible for it. He had the power to prevent the war or end it and more than once.
And then there is Gaza and the Palestinian people.
Does Trump have any valid support to end the Ukrainian holocaust, it was the American administrations starting with W. BUSH, the neocon megalomaniacs who did it to the Ukrainian people, Biden had a chance to avoid it but he is a warmonger to the bone, he wanted the war as much as they insist on war with Iran, war and profit is all the criminal neocons know. Trump better watch out, remember JFK, neocons are killers.
The US will not bomb Moscow unless Trump wants to start WW3.
I've seen similar. Trump supposedly first told Putin if he didn't agree to negotiate Trump would give Ukraine everything they need to win on the battlefield.
I found it:
"I said, 'Vladimir, 'if you go after Ukraine, I am going to hit you so hard, you're not even going to believe it. I'm going to hit you right in the middle of fricking Moscow,'" Trump purportedly said.
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-dmitry-peskov-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-strike-moscow-ukraine-1972080
Thank you for this follow-up.
That is how dumb trump is. First attacking Moscow would start a nuclear war. Second, making that threat increases the chance of starting an accidental war.
The states dictating anything to Russia is delusional. The west started this war with cookies and a coup in 2014…has deceaved and lied to Russia at every step. Sanctions and constant threats. Sending weapons and personnel to kill Russians. Building up offensive capabilities on their doorstep daily. The west should shut up for once and go home where they belong. Stop meddling in virtually every other country on this planet. You do not rule all.