On Thursday, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov strongly warned Israel against attacking Iran’s nuclear facilities.
“We have repeatedly warned and continue to warn and caution [Israel] against even hypothetically considering the possibility of an attack on [Iran’s] nuclear facilities and nuclear infrastructure,” Ryabkov said, according to the Russian news agency TASS.
“This would be a catastrophic development and a complete rejection of the existing postulates in the sphere of nuclear security,” the Russian diplomat added.
The warning from Russia comes amid anticipation of an Israeli attack on Iran in response to the nearly 200 Iranian ballistic missiles that were fired at Israeli territory on October 1. The Iranian attack was a response to a string of Israeli assassinations in the region, including the killing of Hamas’s political chief, Ismail Haniyeh, in Tehran.
There have been calls in Israel and the US for Israeli attacks on Iran’s nuclear program even though there’s no evidence Tehran is seeking a nuclear weapon, which was recently acknowledged by the CIA.
According to media reports, Israel has told the US that it would strike military targets, not oil or nuclear infrastructure. However, in response to one of those reports, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said, “We listen to the opinions of the United States, but we will make our final decisions based on our national interests.”
ABC News and CNN both reported on Wednesday that Netanyahu has approved targets to hit inside Israel, but their sources did not share any other details. Israel is expected to launch the attack before the US presidential election on November 5, but the exact timeline is unclear.
Warning or else what?
Excellent question. I am neither convinced that the Russian Federation vehemently opposes the Apartheid State of Israel, nor that the RF maintains a mild-or-more interest in ASI activities.
To my mind it's a question of how "allied" with the Islamic Republic of Iran, the RF is. Which at present seems, "Distant 4th place, behind the DPRK (3rd), and a coin toss between Belarus or the DPRC for #1 Ally."
Well, yes Pezeshkian isn't trusted, after all the first thing he did was sucking up to Washington. He was rewarded by being portrayed as a moderate and a liberal reformer at the time in the Western press. He got disabused of any notion of the utility for him personally, let alone for Iranian interests of that proposition fairly quickly, but it is still not entirely clear if the Pezeshkian faction has learned that lesson fully and bend over backwards just to get fecked again at the earliest opportune moment, so Russia is keeping them at a distance.
He was foolishly trusting the U.S. He is a cardiologist, a heart surgeon, not a person wise in the ways of political sensibilities.
He finally got it, and now does not trust the U.S.. At all.
Same.
Hopefully a retaliatory attack on israel by any nation or "guerilla" group. Let's just get it over with.
Michael Hudson is calling it a civilization war.
Michael Hudson:
Well, it’s more than just a geographic split. We’re really in a civilizational split, and it goes much deeper. What’s at stake is what kind of economy is the world going to have?
Is it going to be a financialized, neoliberal post-industrial economy, which is what the United States and Europe are pushing? Or is it going to be the kind of economy that textbooks talk about, where economies produce agricultural and industrial goods to feed themselves and make everybody prosper? I almost would use Rosa Luxemburg’s phrase, Barbarism or Socialism, because the West no longer has the means of real economic control over trade and production. It only has military force, terrorist violence and corruption to maintain its control.
The NATO West does financial control by having loaded down the global South and even many Asian countries with dollarized debt for the last 70 years. That dollarized debt holds them in a financial neocolonialism, an international debt peonage. Besides that, the ultimate power that the United States and Europe have to maintain their unipolar control to prevent other countries from going their own way and pursuing their own interests is to bomb them and mobilize terrorism.
https://michael-hudson.com/2024/07/barbarism-or-civilization/
Read Mr. Hudson's remarks in this episode of Scheerpost: https://scheerpost.com/2024/10/08/michael-hudson-and-richard-wolff-middle-east-exploding-ukraine-crumbling-us-take-action/
I watched this on the stream weeks ago.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.
The gods are staying out of this one.
Except Ares. And Loki.
LOL .. there is only one God above all other .. YHVH, the Lord of Hosts and the God of Israel.
"Chosen" over all of mankind that is not Jewish. Right? Is that what you allege? That people who are not Jewish are worthless?
I replied and got this message. Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by News from http://Antiwar.com . I doubt you'll see it and Thomas, the Kenite, will ban me.
So far as I know, I have no Kenite ancestry. But I suppose it’s possible. DNA testing says I’m 2% Ashkenazi.
Conflating Antiwar.com’s guidelines with my personal attributes or preferences is a rookie mistake. In point of fact, on the whole “Jews I don’t like aren’t REALLY Jews” thing, I had to ask my bosses if that violates the guidelines, because I wasn’t sure. The answer I got was “yes, it does, we don’t want that stuff here.”
I only ban people who violate the site’s guidelines 1) frequently and/or 2) so egregiously that it’s obvious they will do so frequently if they remain. Whether you get banned is entirely your decision. I’m just the janitor/bouncer. If you decide to keep vomiting on the floor, you’ll be shown the door.
Did he mean Ken as in Barbie or Ken as in Ken & Ryu from "Street Fighter" ?
These "No True Scotsman" types can be hard to figure out.
The Kenites were a tribe mentioned in the Bible.
One of the ones who got slaughtered, or one of the ones who got killed off ?
So far as I know, I have no Kenite ancestry. But I suppose it’s possible. DNA testing says I’m 2% Ashkenazi.
Conflating Antiwar.com’s guidelines with my personal attributes or preferences is a rookie mistake. In point of fact, on the whole “Jews I don’t like aren’t REALLY Jews” thing, I had to ask my bosses if that violates the guidelines, because I wasn’t sure. The answer I got was “yes, it does, we don’t want that stuff here.”
I only ban people who violate the site’s guidelines 1) frequently and/or 2) so egregiously that it’s obvious they will do so frequently if they remain. Whether you get banned is entirely your decision. I’m just the janitor/bouncer. If you decide to keep vomiting on the floor, you’ll be shown the door.
So far as I know, I have no Kenite ancestry. But I suppose it’s possible. DNA testing says I’m 2% Ashkenazi.
Conflating Antiwar.com’s guidelines with my personal attributes or preferences is a rookie mistake. In point of fact, on the whole “Jews I don’t like aren’t REALLY Jews” thing, I had to ask my bosses if that violates the guidelines, because I wasn’t sure. The answer I got was “yes, it does, we don’t want that stuff here.”
I only ban people who violate the site’s guidelines 1) frequently and/or 2) so egregiously that it’s obvious they will do so frequently if they remain. Whether you get banned is entirely your decision. I’m just the janitor/bouncer. If you decide to keep vomiting on the floor, you’ll be shown the door.
And…that’d be the one that can’t help defeat an enemy army because it had iron chariots. (Judges 1:19…great writing and editing, lads)
You’ll forgive me if THAT god hardly sits atop any pantheon. No WAY he out-places Thor, who himself has plans to square off with Jörmungandr. And that serpent is f**king BIG.
Some of those serpents be looking at the Lake of Fire .. and dat be the end of em.
Devils, as Infernal beings, have the Fire subtype. This is just a briar-patch thing – “Oh no, don’t throw me into an element I’m perfectly comfortable in.”
Error: stop, error .. When a soul hits the Lake of Fire it’ll be like a drop of hot fat falling on a red hot coal … spssswt … turned into smoke and ash forever and ever .. the death of the soul, the eternal being snuffed out, gone, forever and ever.
Even if that were true – what’s the down-side ?
The TERROR a soul will experience between Judgement and the Execution. The upside is us that are left won’t have to deal with Evil anymore because Death and Satan PERISH (eternally gone) in the Lake of Fire.
That's not compelling. That's like saying I should be terrified about something that happened in 1715. I didn't exist yet.
Terror prior to oblivion ? Who cares ? A "soul" winked out of existence remembers nothing of what came before; inasmuch as I remember nothing from before I was born and will remember nothing after I die. Big whoop !
Also, allowing for arguments' sake that this fantasy-fiction be seriously considered – if Death and Satan are such a problem, why hasn't the God character just Thanos'd them the f**k out of existence? That's my biggest issue with the bible – the characters are so poorly written and there's no indication that consideration was given to if the story makes ANY sense.
Tell me – is there "free will" in Heaven ?
Apparently there is. You, using your free will, follow Satan, on earth as it is was in heaven, but won’t be in the New Jerusalem.
And like Jesus Christ after He was tempted, departed .. as I am departing this conversation.
Don’t leave now ! You’re just starting to notice the deep cracks in the foundation of your dogma !
5 points :
1) I am a member of The Satanic Temple because the TST does excellent work in the US to maintain Constitutional separations of religion and government, to ensure religious freedom for EVERYONE.
2) I am an atheist. I do not believe the claims that god(s) exist, including demigods like Satan, other devils, or demons.
3) The TST explicitly does not believe Satan et. al. exists. His fictional figure and story represent the struggle for truth and justice against authoritarian overlord(s).
4) If there is free will in Heaven, can evil happen in Heaven ?
5) The “Jesus tempted” story is unbelievably f**king stupid. Satan, who knows God personally and knows precisely what Jesus is, tries to bribe God/son-of-God/also-still-God with a) what’s already his, b) less than he already possesses and c) what Jesus knows he’ll already inherit ? Who WROTE this s**t ?
Hey T/V/K, how ’bout I come to your house and offer you your own TV as a bribe to not go to work tomorrow. Are ya tempted ??
Get a clue, as an Athirst, I found you people BORING because your MISSION in life the the DENIAL of God and denying God is BORING compared to the life I lived when I decided to become an AGNOSTIC, and I GUARANTEE I had MORE FUN than you. Today, as a FRIEND of Jesus Christ I have come to a place of PEACE in my life, not peace in the World; but, no matter what, to death itself, I can handle it through Jesus Christ who lives in my and let’s His LOVE shine through me.
As for Heaven, the Bible, KJV, says the New Jerusalem, a city 1,500 miles square at the base and 1,500 miles high descends 1,500 miles high, maybe not that high if the base descends into the earth so it doesn’t sit on top and rock 🙂 And who knows, maybe I’ll get a UFO and get to cruise the universe? Unlike those who miss out because their soul hit the red hot coals.
As for converting you, that is NOT my job. Unless God’s Holy Spirit CALLS you, you’re NOT coming. However, Jesus Chris says, 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
My life CHANGED when I made a conscious decision to take my EGO off of the throne of my heart and OPEN THE DOOR and allow Jesus Christ to take His rightful place on in my Heart, and true to his Word, He came in and He has NEVER left me.
As far as work, my siblings tried to kill me by stealing my inheritance: however, as a REALTOR®, I am looking forward to going back to work and helping the company I’ve joined, after 13 years of retirement, become # 1 in the USA. That’s my current rodeo and I’ve been shown I have one more, teaching new agents “how” to sell real estate and, yes, express my LOVE of Jesus Christ, a LOVE strong I will die for Him if need be because HE DIED FOR ME and showed me the TERROR a soul will feel between the death sentence and the execution, in the Lake of Fire, that’s WHY he died for me, to give me ETERNAL live with Him.
And as Jesus Christ said to your father of choice, Satan, Thou shalt NOT tempt the Lord your God.
Have a nice day Uncle Sapien, but at least consider being an Agnostic and having fun without having to DENY God full time.
Wow, that’s a lot of words to address NONE of my clearly delineated points. And to show your ignorance of the acting definitions if “atheist” and “agnostic”.
Let me help.
Where to begin ?
Atheist. “Soft” atheist (my variant) : “I do not believe the claims that god(s) exist.”. No knowledge claim except for certain knowledge of my own position on that one issue.
“Hard” atheist : “God(s) do not exist”. A statement making a positive claim.
Agnostic : one who does NOT claim to have knowledge to validate a position. I am an agnostic soft atheist : “I do not KNOW if a god(s) do or don’t exist, but I do not believe the claims that they do.”
Gnostic : one who DOES claim to have knowledge to validate a position. “I know god(s) exist ” or “I know god(s) don’t exist”.
You are an agnostic theist. I am an agnostic atheist. UNLESS you are certain and/or possess knowledge that your god exists ?
It’s a Punnet Square. Atheist/Theist, Gnostic/Agnostic, four possible combinations.
Some would say agnostic and atheist are functionally identical; I don’t necessarily subscribe to that school.
Do you want to get into the idiotic writing behind the crucifixion story ? God sacrificing himself TO himself, “sacrificing” precisely nothing, in order to serve as a loophole for rules he created and which played out precisely as his omniscient self knew would play out from the start ?
Does it ever both you that the Twilight series is better, more consistently, more cohesively written than the bible ? At least in Twilight, Jacob isn’t killed TWICE in the same fight as Goliath was.
How about if I just tell you to F off? Bye bye loser. Even Paul turned your type over to Satan.
And here's where we come to ? You have precisely zero answers to the points I raised (doesn't your bible, 1 Peter, say "always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason…?") so you throw a hissy fit.
I'm not what makes you angry. YOU coming to realise a) you don't understand the eccentricities of your religion, b) you don't have good reasons to explain why you believe what you believe, and c) a marginally written and poorly edited book of historical fiction you like is rife with mistakes and flaws … THAT is why you're having a tantrum.
You could just "shut off" that EGO you claimed you suffered (it miiiiight still be active) and say, "Yeah, the bible doesn't make a lot of sense much of the time, but my spirituality is agnostic, not based on certain knowledge afforded by a text, but rather, based on hope and emotion rather than facts and evidence. It works well for me in my life and I certainly don't impose my views on anyone else, nor claim what I think is true."
And I'd be all, "That's cool. How you think this US election will go in a couple weeks, huh ? Hard to believe it's almost November…!"
Trump/Vance/Kennedy fully back the Zionists in Israel. Not long ago, Mr. Trump said that Israel needed more resources to "finish the job".
The only "peace" in Jerusalem will come when Israel is defeated.
Or when Jesus Christ returns.
So, VIP's "when Israel is defeated" option, then. As he proposes something that it unlikely but possible, whereas you propose something LESS likely than an alliance of bees, fungi, and whales imposing peace on the region.
It's gonna be a catastrophic development in any case. Have we forgotten about the Palestinian (and now also Lebanese) genocide by the colonial entity and their masters in Washington DC?!
It is most like giving a shooter a weapons, ammo, then turn the other way when a school is shot up.
Russia is so EVIL. Israel is free and has the right to do anything it wants. If Israel wants to drag the entire world into WWIII and nuclear Armageddon, it's none of Russia's business.
There is no person or state of persons whose business a nuclear war is not. All persons & peoples will suffer ruinous health & economic catastrophic adverse outcomes. Some will do better than others but only a fool will welcome such an event!
We have seen Russia act when it thinks it is attacked or it'security is endangered!!!!!!!!
Any state that threatens them can expect Russia to make it their business to end the threat vigorously with their most potent bombs on the planet & unstoppable means of delivery!!! The only other state with such capabilities will be their ally. God help any that blunders inti their maw
I’m with you on this, but the issue with nuclear pollution, it’s contagious.
If that happens, well, Israel would be lit up and then cease to exist. More than Bibi's home would be hit.
I'm so gullible. I became excited and started hallucinating when I read: "ABC News and CNN both reported on Wednesday that Netanyahu has approved targets to hit inside Israel…" until I realized it was just a typo.
… But they didn't warn Not to attack Iran's oil facilities because otherwise it would be a windfall for them…!
An attack on IRI nuclear facilities could be a wind fallout for the Russian Federation.
… And/or Russia is concerned Ukraine would do the same to them…!
I feel, this time Israel will cause some civilian causality to piss off Iran for a larger retaliation.
Russia could deploy S400 systems to Iran but they won't.
Iran doesn’t need it…!
They have a large number of S400's that were deployed last month, and the Sukoi S35. Israel and the US will not have any free reign over Iran. If attacked I hope Iran brings down many of the IAF terror machines.
At these prices, why not ?? The Russian Federation is overstocked, and needs to clear space on the lot for 2025 S400's AND the completely redesigned S500 and S500LX models ! 0.99% APR financing ! Trade-ins at Kyllinov Blue Book value for S200's and S300's – push, pull, or drag ! Popcorn and petting zoo for the kids ! No-Commission sales staff ! Just off Russian State Route 6π in upper West Petersberg ! Tell 'em Dimitri sent ya !!
Apropos of this particular discussion: “Why Russia won’t save Iran,” by Eldar Mamedov, Responsible Statecraft, 10/23/24.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/russia-wont-save-iran/
Israel continues to walk a very fine line, in all regards. The US certainly needs to consider its own complicity, across the board.
Palestinians may not be able to defend their selves but Iranians certainly can. Good of the Russians to contribute to the conversation…
Is this the [RED] line? Or the growling bear?
The BRICS alliance is working.
https://brics-russia2024.ru/en/news/iran-primet-uchastie-v-sammite-briks/
https://infobrics.org/
http://www.brics.utoronto.ca/
This rotting,decaying,fiat house of cards will come trashing down like confetti at a parade. Its the only [real] thing keeping the tottering empire from the final tip. No Virginia, you cant run an empire paying 1 trillion a year just on the interest of your 35+ trillion debt of principle owed to the very folks in charge of your empire’ the bloody bankers at federal reserve….i love the stench of plutocracy masquerading as a [rep] democracy.
'…catastrophic development and a complete rejection of the existing postulates in the sphere of nuclear security,”
bear bark?
The Germans have a word which fits Zelensky to a tee: Arschloch.
Bibi just raises his middle finger and says … 'So. What are you going to do about it. HUH? What part of BUZZ OFF don't you understand?'