Israel is planning to launch a “significant retaliation” attack against Iran over the Iranian missile barrage that targeted Israel on Tuesday, which was a response to several Israeli escalations in the region. Israeli officials acknowledged to Axios that the situation could lead to a full-blown regional war, which would involve the US.
According to the Axios report, Israel could target oil production facilities inside Iran or other strategic sites. Israeli officials say that if Iran hits back, then all options will be on the table, including strikes on Iran’s civilian nuclear facilities.
“We have a big question mark about how the Iranians are going to respond to an attack, but we take into consideration the possibility that they would go all in, which will be a whole different ball game,” an Israeli official told Axios.
Other options being considered are attacks on Iran’s air defenses or targeted assassinations. Israel has a history of killing people inside Iran, including the July 31 assassination of Hamas’s political chief, Ismail Haniyeh.
Israel would likely need US military support to launch significant strikes on Iranian territory, and the Israeli officials speaking to Axios say they are coordinating with the Biden administration. Israel wants more US support if it provokes another Iranian attack.
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said Tuesday that the US would work with Israel to ensure Iran faces “severe consequences.” President Biden has also said he is working with Israel on a response but said Wednesday that he wouldn’t support strikes on Iran’s nuclear facility.
“All seven of us agree that they have a right to respond, but they have to respond proportionally,” he said, referring to the Group of Seven nations. He said G7 leaders agreed to impose new sanctions on Iran, which will have little impact since Iran is already under so many.
Israel acknowledged on Wednesday that Iranian missiles made an impact on several military bases but claimed there was no significant damage. Israel is also claiming there were no major casualties, with only two Israelis suffering minor injuries. One Palestinian was killed in the Israeli-occupied West Bank when shrapnel from an intercepted missile hit him.
Iran fired about 180 ballistic missiles at Israel in response to the Israeli assassination of Haniyeh in Tehran and the Israeli killing of Hezbollah Secretary-General Hassan Nasrallah and Abbas Nilforoushan, an IRGC commander who was killed alongside Nasrallah.
Isn't it amazing how the U.S.A. manages to off load all responsibility for it's immoral and illegal wars.
Not entirely. Rallies last night in video with “death to Israel, death to the US” chants in Iran and some in Iraq. Their propaganda is working on the gullible and those who wish not to suffer cognitive dissonance. The blowback will show otherwise.
In IRAQ ? Well ! Some thanks THEY show for all the work Bush II & co. did to win hearts & minds and only cause the deaths of, like, a million Iraqis over two long and prosperous decades for Iraq under benevolent American invasion and occupation !
Frick, SOME PEOPLE you just can't please.
Thank goodness our Envoy to the Middle East is another Israeli/US dual passport holder. It makes genocide so much easier.
ASG's been updated to include more comprehensive thoughts on Ukraine. Some good parts on Zionism and 9/11 as well, if you haven't read in a few weeks. Control + F "July 4" is easiest to skip ahead:
https://roninhardjan.substack.com/p/americas-shadow-government-behind
Why on earth would Israel want to retaliate for a retaliation attack that did little harm or damage? It seems that they are sending a clear message to everyone except for the stupid American government that they most certainly want a war with Iran.
Because the retaliation demonstrated capability. Israel cannot countenance foes that have even the ability to fight back.
Iran not only demonstrated capability but also restraint.
This will not end well, and it will end with Iran embracing nuclear weapons —which it should have done when it was obvious that Iran would always be forced to "pay the piper but never dance to the tune"
God protect us from our idiot "leaders" and their neocon/aipac minders…How I long for statesmen like George Marshall and George Kennan at the helm..
ISRAEL HAS LIKE 90-400 NUKES
THEY ARE A NUCLEAR STATE TOO
Too? what do you mean by that?
At present Iran has no nukes.
But I am advocating that it gets some so it will indeed be "too" as in also.
That way Israel and Iran can respectfully coexist like India and Pakistan, US and USSR (now Russia) do.
Mutually Assured Destruction.
It takes the top rung off the escalation ladder.
not if Israel goes with the Samson option.
Then all bets are off. I would think that leaders in Arab countries that were keeping out of the fray would then have to do something, or be overthrown. Jordan, Egypt and Turkey come to mind. Jordanian citizens are pretty upset that Jordan helped shoot down missiles shot by Iran. Biden, Sullivan, Blinken, Austin are really, really stupid. They should be shoveling sh*t in cow pastures. D*mn!!!!
Ukraine is disproving MAD. If you have suicidal elites or elites who don’t care for the citizens of that state, MAD is out the window. Germany too didn’t care for its people, allowed or tolerated the destruction of their gas line.
The US has proven that use of nukes against civilians destroys the the users morals, culture, society and economy.
Iran will us its nukes as shield while pursuing a war of attrition with its 80 million people versus 8 million for Israel.Its stated purpose is clearly to destroy Israel.
Hello, Iran does not have even one nuclear weapon.
Nuclear weapons are last century terrorist weapons for use against civilians. Today's accuracy can come in through the bedroom window of selected targets.
I know
Good point. If Biden leaked / acknowledged as policy what we all know, that Israel has nukes, US laws targeting proliferation would prevent us from sending more arms and cash to Israel, if actually enforced.
But the only strategic advantage the US has is it's "qualitative military edge" and vast militarism. Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan are useful tools to weaken any rivals to America's total global dominance.
sometimes the tail wags the dog, but mostly we are the dogs of war seeking deniable, gently scoldable proxies to do the major dying for us.
Nothing will stop the US from sending arms to Israel. If genocide,terrorism, assassination, and the murder of children doesn't stop it,what's a little nuclear weapon among friends? Netanyahu knows that the current administration and both candidates running for election will supply everything Israel needs.
If you were to put most men in the position of the Palestinians, Iranians, or Lebanese, home destroyed, family murdered,how long do you think it would be before they would be chanting "Death to Israel, death to America", and strapping on a suicide vest? Any man can only be pushed so far.
“everything Israel needs”
Israel needs to exist within its borders and make peace with its neighbors.
The needs of the ethno-supremacist gang ruling Israel, not the needs of Israel, are what the US regime is interested in supplying.
Camel's backs get broken with straws. Maybe Israel's budget deficit doubling as it has won't stop them. Maybe the end of the entire nonproliferation paradigm will finally convince US officials of what we all know: Israel wantonly acts against US interests with their extremism. Even Ukraine is starting to get the cold shoulder too for the same reason.
That assumes the US would follow it's own laws. We just saw Washington claim the Gaza genocide isn't what it totally actually demonstrably is; an ASI nuclear strike would be brushed off as "simply a lot of TNT packed tightly into a warhead that's bigger on the inside."
And that is very fortunate for them.
Iran gave the U.S. a heads up. Israel was forewarned, but rockets and missiles still hit critical targets. People on the ground there recorded it. Israel is tight lipped as to the hits. If Israel eventually pulls out a tactical nuke and uses it on Iran, then all bets are off.
Why tactical and not strategic?
First, let's correct the number. The IRGC has explicitly said 200 missiles were launched. The 180 figure is from the Israelis, who can't count, otherwise they wouldn't be trying to invade Lebanon with a 1:1 or less ratio of troops compared to Hezbollah.
Second, Biden's "no strikes on Iranian nukes" is another bullshit cover story to shield him from blame when Netanyahu does it anyway.
Third, an attack on Iranian air defenses would be considered "lame" at this stage of the conflict. They also are likely to fail since Iran now has not only S-300 from Russia and equivalent air defenses of its own design, but also Russian S-400 systems (how many is unknown, probably not a lot.) So there's a good chance Israel would lose F-35s in an attack on Iranian air defenses. Not only would that be a black eye for the US sales of the F-35, it would mean Israel loses expensive aircraft for no particularly great success.
Fourth, targeted assassinations take time to prepare and would also be considered "lame" at this stage, unless they were en mass.
So Israel has no choice but to "go big or go home." Their last retaliation in April was considered "lame" by everyone. They are going to have to do significant damage to Iranian civilian or military infrastructure to be taken seriously.
We should remember that Israel also have five Dolphin-Class submarines equipped for cruise missile launch, reportedly capable of nuclear warheads.
And then Iran will drop several hundred more missiles on Israel which Israel can't stop. However, as I've pointed out before, Iran only has so many long-range missiles that can hit Israel (although they have many more drones that can with lesser impact), So Iran can't afford to get in a "tit-for-tat" exchange with Israel going forward.
The time is now for Iran to go all in and green light the entire Axis of Resistance to go all in.
How do we know the extent of Iran's arsenal?
We don't. We have to rely on publicly available estimates which may be off by factors of 2 to 10. The thing to remember is that missiles don't drop off trees. They are produced at a specific rate depending on what level of resources the country involved is prepared to commit to that production.
I cover that in detail in my Substack article:
Armageddon in The Middle East – Part 2 – Correlation of Forces and Methods
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/armageddon-in-the-middle-east-part
No one but the Iranians and the Russians know how many S-400 missiles were provided to Iran. Iran has targeting coordinates from Hezbollah, derived from the recon drones Hezbollah flew over critical sites in Israel. Is there also an agreement with Russia to utilize their assets?
I'll bet the Russians are sharing intel with Iran big time.
no now is the time to pray for peace not cheerlead escalations
Where the fuck do you get the idea that I'm "cheerleading" anything? I'm telling you what objectively Israel has to do to stay relevant in this conflict. It's called "analysis."
You are forgetting the rockets Hezbollah has. A coordinated strategy would overwhelm Israel. One thing has to be noted from the Iranian attack, the targets were military targets, not civilian targets like Israel.
I'm not forgetting anything. I've been covering everything you said for months now. Try to catch up.
when people fire missiles at you don't sit there and be submissive
but shame on israel for the continued genocide and wars
It's chicken or egg with Israel and its relationship with any country within range of an F-16.
I suspect that the reason Israel will avoid a war is that the missile strike was more successful than they are willing to admit.
Iran was retaliating for what Israel did. Just like the first missile barrage. And Israel's has been carrying out assassinations and acts of sabotage inside of Iran for years. Iran also isn't allowed to have allies as Israel bombs Syria at will because they host Iran's militias. It would seem only Iran is supposed to be submissive.
"when people fire missiles at you don't sit there and be submissive."
No. Normally, the reaction is "take cover".
THEN, when out of immediate danger, the reasonable, normal, logical thing to do is ask the question : "Why did they do that ?"
If one is honest with themselves, admitting the answer to that question sets you on a path to change and to preventing recurrence.
"Why did someone set fire to my house ?" Well, you can recognize it's because you keep firebombing your neighbours OR ignorantly decide and insist it's because everyone hates that you own such a nice couch.
if someone sets fire to your house you would wand revenge
Israel is always the victim. They assassinate world leaders and complain about consequences..
Israel started as a terrorist state. In 80 years nothing changed.
This is what Iran should do next:
https://youtu.be/-ovLWE3i6to
Nuke center and Kharg Is. in the cross hairs.
Israel better back off of this… Not a very smart idea.
It’s working out so far for them.
not our fight!
No, but it will be.
I published a new Substack which is an expanded version of my response below:
Response To Reports That Israel Is Planning A Major Retaliation
Wherein another off-the-cuff analysis…
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/response-to-reports-that-israel-is
Whatever happens, it will be the innocent who suffer and the perps who live on and profit from their treachery.
Well, that might change too. The US and Israel took the lead in glorifying assassinations on leader figures, no matter how high up. In years past they've been careful to hide it under layers and layers of denial, secrecy and censorship, sometimes even then too transparent to succeed. But that has changed. Western leaders are now open about it, advertizing it and celebrating it and feel entirely unhindered to kill hundreds of civilian bystanders to do it and then celebrate that too.
The Western press is following the instructions faithfully to cheer it on with them, decontextualize ensuing reactions – which comes as routine for an industry that is capable of sanitizing genocide – and so every reason to object it being applied to Western leaders has been removed by the West. But maybe these criminals petty lives may be saved yet by the fact that their stupendous depth of depravity, cartoonish evilness and moral inferiority is being rejected to be matched by the rest of the world. Their values and cultures are by this alone demonstrated to be superior to ours. It is very humiliating to watch, because I was once convinced otherwise.
Might as well join them. Evolution into psychopathy, the next phase in human development, survival of the most evil.
Within a social species (any social species), selfishness and greed aren't selected for in the evolutionary process. It leads to dead-ends for individuals, and their attitude (and genes) don't propagate into the population.
I disagree. Parasites are the best analogy. Psychopaths are akin to parasites arising within.
Parasites are not a social species.
If you had groups competing with individuals sacrificing for the group to enable the spread of the group genetics, then you’d be correct. However, that is not happening except maybe in places like Israel.
I wonder why the US is so quick to insert itself in the plan to retaliate. After all, we told them that we would defend but not attack. Could it be that the US is trying to impose its own definition of what retaliation should look like? If so, does the US want Israel to restrain itself? Or does the US want Israel to do as much damage as possible? My guess is the first because the impact of a full war between those two would send enormous ripples around the world. Oil prices would jump. Oil shortages might occur. US bases in the region might come under attack. Israel might become insolvent. etc.
Warmongers with rabies are not rational people. And they are in charge in DC and Jerusalem.
Too bad Russia would never even consider doing a 'U.S.' by deploying air defense systems to Iran.
Russia is preoccupied now but China might see advantage ftom a supporting move.
What? Russia has already supplied S-400 AD to Iran.
BBis at the very brink of his life's highest ambition -war with Iran and full mid-east hegemony- and believes it achievable by his proxy (Washington).
Netanyahou is a delusional psychopath, and it would come as no surprise if he leads the moronic Biden and his handlers into WW III. It just boggles the mind that the geniuses in Washington can't see how close we are to nuclear annihilation. For those of us not counting on "life after death," perhaps finding a way out of the foreverwars might be a better option.
Other options being considered are attacks on Iran’s air defenses or targeted assassinations. Israel has a history of killing people inside Iran, including the July 31 assassination of Hamas’s political chief, Ismail Haniyeh.
So, the retaliation will include the reason Iran retaliated. But never mind.
Netanyahu has always wanted to take advantage of Joe Biden’s sitting in the White House to launch a war of agression against Iran with US support.
Now, this is unfolding under our very eyes.
Where would this lead?
If this war escalades, who knows?
Where have these lying hypocrites been the last few years? Selective memory disease disorder.
"It cannot be tolerated': European leaders condemn Iranian strike on Israel
Political leaders across the continent have denounced Tehran's overnight ballistic missile strikes, for which Israel has promised retaliation.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen is among scores of European leaders strongly condemning Iran’s Monday night missile attack on Israel — an assault that threatens to destabilise the Middle East and throw the region into all-out war."
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/10/02/it-cannot-be-tolerated-european-leaders-condemn-iranian-strike-on-israel
And…here's where I start to wonder a bit. Where I take reasoning a step further.
The USA steadfastly supports the Apartheid State of Israel in all sorts of misadventures : genocide against the people of Gaza; illegal and unjustified invasion of Lebanon (if you say this of the RF in Ukraine, you must say this here); building up for a war with an Islamic Republic of Iran that the ASI cannot beat.
It would seem the USA's support is fundamentally (pardon pun) due to belief in a) Judeo-Christianity as an actual Thing, b) belief Judaism is true, c) belief Christianity is true. While the USA is legally secular (until Trump 2.0) its deep Christian leanings are barely hidden, especially in politics.
Now, since both Judaism and Christianity cannot be true (core tenets of each, contradict the other) and both posit "necessary" preconditions for End Times, I am beginning to suspect it's actually the USA playing the ASI as useful idiots. Not the other way around.
I think the deep goal of American interests is in giving the ASI rope enough to hang itself; cause mass destruction that not only wipes out "Israel's ancient enemies" but Israel ITSELF. Then, Christians from the West descend on the ashes of Judaism and Islam and Jerusalem, and await a Christian Jesus (who, in final irony, won't return).
Pretty Far Fetched…! My take is US unconditional support of Israel is because of fear of loosing grip on US Corporations in US and around the world…!
Christian Zionists believe exactly that – that Israel has to be destroyed before the Messiah comes. I think there is a Jewish sect that believes the same thing IIRC.
But that's not what's driving US policy. That is much more mundane: money, power, hegemony. The West does believe, however, that they're better than anyone, so racism is a factor. In fact, racism is the core setting of every monkey-ass human. Humans only relate to their only monkey troop and regard every other monkey troop as a threat.
It was a nothingburger, but let's respond to it anyhow.
news:
Both the U.S. and Israel downplayed the strikes. “This attack appears to have been defeated and ineffective,” U.S. national security adviser Jake Sullivan said in a briefing Tuesday.
U.S. forces had a limited role in repelling the ballistic missile assault, which U.S. officials called ineffective but a ‘significant escalation’ nonetheless.
Tehran will face “severe consequences” for its large-scale missile attack on Israel on Tuesday, the White House said.
The Zionist Colony deserves every bit of payback coming to it. This is a death cult, and they take pride in the wholesale slaughter of men woman and especially children. Russia and China will not stand idle and may very well act in Iran's defense.
It comes to two choices for US:
1. Stop cooperation with Israel for their potential retaliation against Iran, Or
2. Suffer the consequences of US soldiers' casualties in a counter attack on its bases around Persian Golf…!
This warning has already sent to US officials by Iran…!
So far it's only been all BLAH … BLAH … BLAH and YADA … YADA … YADA.
Did I mention BLAH … BLAH … BLAH?
Where's the beef?